2JZ WHO??? Building An Actual Supra With Vortec 4200 Power

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Nivlac57

Nivlac57

Күн бұрын

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@wolfgangsgarage1693
@wolfgangsgarage1693 2 күн бұрын
My vote is some tiny twins. Cheap budget and fast spool. Use internally wastegated ones to keep space.
@umakemerandy3669
@umakemerandy3669 2 күн бұрын
Yup
@JamesJames-r8t
@JamesJames-r8t 2 күн бұрын
But weeeeeeee weeeeeeee 😢😢 no weeeeee weeeee needs weeeeee weeeee super charger go weee weee weee 😢😢
@james10739
@james10739 2 күн бұрын
Compound
@Christdeliverme
@Christdeliverme 2 күн бұрын
@@wolfgangsgarage1693 nah it won't sound very good at all
@Low760
@Low760 2 күн бұрын
No need now given the efficiency of modern ball bearing turbos
@pob_car
@pob_car 2 күн бұрын
Super high compression, aggressive cams, maybe some spray if that tickles your fancy. Sounds super cool Also another guy said ITB’s so that too
@pob_car
@pob_car 2 күн бұрын
Wow you already have the pistons. Definitely go for it!
@cj09beira
@cj09beira 2 күн бұрын
+1 for the spray that car deserves to look its best.
@pob_car
@pob_car 2 күн бұрын
@@cj09beira spray meaning nitrous lol
@JamesJames-r8t
@JamesJames-r8t 2 күн бұрын
​@parkerbethke needs both tho ❤
@JamesJames-r8t
@JamesJames-r8t 2 күн бұрын
​@@pob_car❤
@bussingwithbain
@bussingwithbain 2 күн бұрын
I am all about putting a turbo back on it. Already has the badging,and you have the skills!!
@danielkoch6815
@danielkoch6815 2 күн бұрын
I'm an inline 6 guy who tried to build a 300 HP 4.2 Jeep engine for my Javelin. It sounded NASTY, but ate itself soon after. I say build the NA version so I won't have to!
@zandercraft1168
@zandercraft1168 2 күн бұрын
Because of your videos, I'm planning to put a 4200 with an ar5 into my 82 celica supra. Never thought I'd see this video from you. Please continue!
@reedjacksonmaccom
@reedjacksonmaccom Күн бұрын
I like how you described what you like about the Gen3. Nice compliments to the original builders.
@ethanschocke333
@ethanschocke333 2 күн бұрын
i believe it being a turbo supra you should make it a 2jz killer build. 5-600 horsepower on a haltech or link. just a fast streetcar you can genuinely enjoy daily.
@michaelpaulson8281
@michaelpaulson8281 2 күн бұрын
Got an old jaguar xj6 I'm putting a 4200 in... Sadly got two projects going but seeing you guys keeping the dreams alive makes me want to bump the jag to the front of the line
@douglasmcdowall5006
@douglasmcdowall5006 2 күн бұрын
I knew that car as soon as I saw the thumbnail! I'm happy that you ended up with it and that it's getting revived. That car led me to the 4200 builds and eventually to your channel years ago.
@jlsracing997
@jlsracing997 2 күн бұрын
Best looking Supra they made. Absolutely love them. A pro touring build or something with good horsepower and good handling for the twistys.
@djasseater2262
@djasseater2262 Күн бұрын
Mk 3 is a work of art, mk 4 is a bloated pig.
@Numer1Polak
@Numer1Polak Күн бұрын
The reason they are so heavy was because the mk3 was moving away from the sporty category and more into grand tourer. A Comfy two seater that can be sporty. Dollar exchange rates, economy, and tariffs. Forced them to make em higher "class" vehicles meant for more wealthy buyers, to keep margins higher. So they had thicker metal, double walls, sound deadening, plush automated seats and so on. Still one of my favorite toyota cars, they just look like a slick box and I love that.
@bertvisser6423
@bertvisser6423 Күн бұрын
I remember those videos,hard to find info back then,very cool you ended up with that car
@MinisterofDOOM
@MinisterofDOOM 2 күн бұрын
MARK III HELL YES. This is unbelievably cool.
@GodlikeGTZ
@GodlikeGTZ 2 күн бұрын
My 88 Supra was an unexpected gift. Now I'm obsessed with it.
@dennisbonge002
@dennisbonge002 Күн бұрын
Sacrilegious at its finest. I approve this build
@lemmehaveone
@lemmehaveone Күн бұрын
High-compression naturally aspirated would be really cool and unusual, especially with ITBs!
@SNOFLOFilms
@SNOFLOFilms Күн бұрын
I cannot believe you ended up with this car. That video was also my introduction to the 4200 and I’ve wanted to swap my mk3 ever since. Watched it too many times haha. Oh, and I vote for an unnecessarily strung out N/A motor. ALWAYS wanted to see one of these at its max without boost!
@CC-mb8fi
@CC-mb8fi Күн бұрын
Centrifical supercharger running off of front of motor. Instant torque and boost for autocross. Ideally positioned for the intercooler. It looks like a turbo- sort of ish, and your throttle whacks off the lights would be insane. But, all your options would be sweet......
@christophercasale7961
@christophercasale7961 2 күн бұрын
Mk3s are known to be heavy cars. I think if you do an NA response build it would be more fun in something lighter. VGT turbo or Supercharger would be really cool
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids 2 күн бұрын
If you're planning to make 1000 HP then a couple hundred pounds doesn't mean all that much.
@sigmaprojects
@sigmaprojects Күн бұрын
@@rockets4kids he's referring to the thoughts of possibly doing a NA build.
@802Garage
@802Garage Күн бұрын
Awesome! I also love box flares. I bet a lot of comments are going to say superturbo, but I vote go with the first option for now. Turbo and use what's on the car. Would love to see y'all drift this thing a little too!
@codeycarter
@codeycarter Күн бұрын
Definitely do an autocross/ hill climb build soon! Love the videos Calvin!!! Mad support
@ronnythompson9115
@ronnythompson9115 Күн бұрын
I did have an older chevy with a bad clutch. I could start it in 2nd gear. Get rolling then shift to 3rd and higher without a clutch. Only pain is you have to do that at every stop sign and light.
@Dirtfloorfab
@Dirtfloorfab Күн бұрын
Man I don't know how you guys handle so many projects
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson Күн бұрын
Eh. One bite at a time.
@Dirtfloorfab
@Dirtfloorfab Күн бұрын
@Calvin-Nelson I get one "done" and I start tearing it down for more upgrades. I guess I need to learn how to be content
@clsickspeed904
@clsickspeed904 2 күн бұрын
Supercharged build sounds pretty awesome! Dont remember ever seeing an Atlas of any kind supercharged
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 2 күн бұрын
It's been done, but definitely pretty rare
@zacharykelly7434
@zacharykelly7434 Күн бұрын
Just the name Supracharger is worth it honestly
@Beyondthebox11
@Beyondthebox11 Күн бұрын
Love the car, I had one in high school. It was one of my favorite cars I’ve ever owned. I had the same color you have if you repaint it it will be super beautiful. That is an awesome color. I vote all motor set up.🎉
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree Күн бұрын
What a cool project! If you go with a supercharger, a centrifugal might be a good choice, to help keep the gearbox alive.
@Cheezeball99999
@Cheezeball99999 Күн бұрын
I vote roots blower. Inline sixes are always turbocharged, and while I love the sounds thereof as much as anyone.. Roots blower! Why not? whheeEEEEEE!
@crisisrogue8286
@crisisrogue8286 2 күн бұрын
supercharger!!! supercharged inline 6 sounds like a great idea! or N/A, bet they sound good revving high
@kevrasx
@kevrasx Күн бұрын
I like all of those ideas. It would be interesting to see an all out NA build 4200. But is that original turbo car the one to do that with? How would you arrange the headers on a straight 6? Six long tubes into 2 collectors? A 6-3-1, or 6-2-1 to try for more midrange torque? ITBs from motorcycle throttle bodies? This could get nasty.
@Ironsights85
@Ironsights85 2 күн бұрын
mkiii supras are just heavy! and you have a hard top, which is the lighter version N/A or supercharged would be pretty cool! im running an ls swapped one with the factory r154 trans, which is just an older version of the ar5. 382 rwhp N/A, its plenty of fun! that lsd is reasonably strong, but i bet you anything it needs the clutches shimmed to actually work well
@Freeloves_Whipps
@Freeloves_Whipps 2 күн бұрын
If you are worried about drivability I would do supercharger. The NA build would be sweet but will turn the car into a race track trailer queen. Love the builds✌️
@joshbagby3784
@joshbagby3784 Күн бұрын
Man you're videos keep getting better and better I love it
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Күн бұрын
Guy was ready to unleash the kraken..even had the kerbal space program music playing in the background.
@LoganC278
@LoganC278 2 күн бұрын
Calvin im so excited with this build. After seeing the thumbnail I instantly thought of the video of this 4200 supra, funny that its the same one LOL. Excited to see how this ends up, has to be my favorite project.
@shannonsisk
@shannonsisk Күн бұрын
I love the idea of a 14:1 NA build. Sounds awesome. Also looking forward to more NorthStar content. I find that very interesting 👍
@hackjobhotrodshop5075
@hackjobhotrodshop5075 Күн бұрын
Ironically I ran into an almost identical color mk3 4200 at cruise night this summer. Sometimes I think I have car project ADHD but I'm glad I can live vicariously through you on your number of projects!!
@joshualeone4383
@joshualeone4383 Күн бұрын
Use a regular blocky type Gm map sensor for the boost gauge.
@Christdeliverme
@Christdeliverme 2 күн бұрын
Make your own sequential system using some of the E-Gates they operate quickly.
@MegamanEXEv2
@MegamanEXEv2 2 күн бұрын
I am so glad you saved this car Calvin! Like you, this was one of the cars that introduced me to the 4200 and I have seen that same video of it taking off 100000000 times!
@frestkd
@frestkd 2 күн бұрын
NA with ITBs .. would be cool. Didn't GM build a 500hp race version for the offroad trailblazer truggy...
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 2 күн бұрын
That had zero similarity with the production engine. Look up Falconer Inline 6
@Tagiau
@Tagiau 2 күн бұрын
It would sound awesome, but for autox I feel like it would lack the low end. Be great for a high horsepower na build though.
@buddybrozy
@buddybrozy 2 күн бұрын
@@Calvin-Nelson 500hp na sounds like a good goal to me
@nunyaf-nbizness
@nunyaf-nbizness 2 күн бұрын
I vote with the Itb's
@therealboofighter
@therealboofighter 2 күн бұрын
I would like to vote for ITBs.
@cobaltlukather9045
@cobaltlukather9045 Күн бұрын
the most powerful naturally aspirated inline six engine ever produced for road cars was the 2005 TVR T440 R, with its 4.0L six making a claimed 434hp to the crankshaft. i'd love to see the Atlas fly past those numbers before popping on a procharger or other forced induction setup.
@brettus9115
@brettus9115 Күн бұрын
It looks like a series 5 Mazda RX-7... Just whack a slightly oversized turbo on it (or tune a rising boost curve) for that old school turbo lag jet takeoff feeling.
@drake5557
@drake5557 Күн бұрын
Supracharger track car would be absolutely mental. Or do a nitrous build!
@therowdytimes7512
@therowdytimes7512 Күн бұрын
N/a balanced rotating assembly with nice induction set up for a linear curve with decent rpm. You can ways build another or change up the set up. We all love forced induction, but there is not many people on you tube pushing the boundarys or n/a and showing it to the public.
@joeinmi8671
@joeinmi8671 2 күн бұрын
So glad you picked this car up. I remember when limeswap was building it. A guy put a 4200 in a 3rd gen fbody around the same time and it think limeswap and him were friends/influenced each other.
@dr1ver267
@dr1ver267 2 күн бұрын
I’m interested to see what the 4200 can do NA in your hands, especially with 14:1 compression!
@seanrose3951
@seanrose3951 2 күн бұрын
Yooooo this mk3 is iconic i used to watch bro bros ig videos and it is what made me fall in love with the 42000
@jordanharkema1495
@jordanharkema1495 2 күн бұрын
Ah the memories of watching this car take shape between classes. Also, 4200 auto x build has always been an idea in my head as well, glad to hear someone is making it happen!
@716monk
@716monk 2 күн бұрын
Well this is going to be fantastically useful, I've been trying to figure out this exact swap with my mk3!
@JohnnyJackson-fi1yy
@JohnnyJackson-fi1yy 2 күн бұрын
Like that N/A build! After watching you for couple of years, goin to build one for my 50 chevy pickup.
@TriniRogue
@TriniRogue 2 күн бұрын
Thats so wild that you got the supra, im sure i have the video of it running saved in a playlist somewhere from ages ago, this is gonna be fun to watch.
@brucenaylor2043
@brucenaylor2043 2 күн бұрын
I definitely like the supercharger idea 💡
@seanrose3951
@seanrose3951 2 күн бұрын
So excited for you to finally do a manual trans build. Id keep it simple and enjoy it as a sick hotrod. The ar5 isn't known to hold lots of power. You will pop a few! Luckily they are still dirt cheap.
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 2 күн бұрын
The LS guys make 700+ with AR5s. I hope we don't have issues, but time will tell.
@RoB_666_
@RoB_666_ 2 күн бұрын
Wow! A super rare, US spec only, Vortec Supra, powered by the 4.2AZ....nice score! 🤣🤣
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 2 күн бұрын
You funny!
@rhecxx6941
@rhecxx6941 2 күн бұрын
I’ve watched that video of this Supra 100tines since middle school it made me want something with 4200 power I was so tempted to purchase this Supra especially for the price glad you scooped it up Calvin can’t wait to see the build
@craigfiles7067
@craigfiles7067 2 күн бұрын
I'm an Aussie Ford guy, but I love watching your channel as you go out of your way to promote an underdog of a Chevy as everyone want LS or LT but you stick mainly to the 4200 , keep up the good work and get a po box so followers can send you gifts
@aaronnoyb
@aaronnoyb Күн бұрын
You need a turbo manual car, with an external BOV, in your life at least once. GT3076R, with a 1.06 hot side. Yes, small for a 4200, but on song from below 2000rpm, but still get to 6500rpm without excessive drive pressure. I dropped from a 3582, to the 3076, on a manual 4.5 I6, so much more fun to drive, with only barely noticeable power loss above 5500rpm.
@michaelk617
@michaelk617 2 күн бұрын
Procharger baby! N/A 4200's "come alive" between 3000rpm & 5000rpm. Love to see what a procharger could offer. Bet it would short track like a beast.
@illuminatikiller1
@illuminatikiller1 2 күн бұрын
Love it!!! My favorite supra.......... supercharger 6-1 header side exit boomtube tack monster!
@garymiller186
@garymiller186 2 күн бұрын
Turbo is nice for making quick HP. But I can still remember Cotton Perry's 6 cyl. Nova. It sure sounded good! So I really would like to hear the 4200 with BIG cams!
@GrandPitoVic
@GrandPitoVic 2 күн бұрын
AWESOME BROTHER!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!! ID like to see it go up against a supra!!!!
@SupraConfused
@SupraConfused 2 күн бұрын
Very excited to see you ended up with this car! This exact car is the reason I also got into the 4200 platform and why I did this same swap lol
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 2 күн бұрын
I watched some of your vids last night when I was looking for the old vids of this. Cool build!
@SupraConfused
@SupraConfused 2 күн бұрын
@ Haha thanks! Can’t wait to see where you guys go with the car!!
@BlakeEM
@BlakeEM 2 күн бұрын
My first car was a 1986.5 mkIII Toyota Supra. I went through an engine, head gaskets, and a transmission. It's a decent handling car and it surprises me how cheap they still are. Mine had 17 inch 5zigen fn01r-c wheels. I think 17 inch look best on this car (not a fan of the 18s on this car). Mine was slammed on Bilsteins with 10.5 inch wide in back and 8.5 inch wide in front. I'm very excited for this build.
@Yan1nc
@Yan1nc 2 күн бұрын
a 350whp+ N/A straight 6 Supra would be cool
@Emilthehun
@Emilthehun 2 күн бұрын
It would be really cool to build all motor hp . Itbs , some cool headers , cams , high compression. Im loving it!!!! Lets do it!
@TaylorMadejdm1975
@TaylorMadejdm1975 2 күн бұрын
Noice! The Infiniti wheels actually look damn good! 🍺
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 2 күн бұрын
Back when the gen5 wasn't even a concept car i talked about the I6 being ideal as a base performance motor for a new F body. I got a lot of push back from people, but the most absurd was the idea that 4.2L is just somehow too big for an I6. The thought was that the 2JZ was a 3 liter, the RB26 a 2.6L, so thats obviously the correct size for an I6. Besides the fact that if GM wanted to, they could easily produce a 3L version of the Atlas, the only things they could come up with were some vague notions of bore stroke ratios, ideal combustion chamber width etc.
@Dirtyz1234
@Dirtyz1234 2 күн бұрын
I like calling my turbo BMW E46 the gentleman's Skyline GTS-T to get the JDM fanboys a little heated 😂
@Mis73rRand0m
@Mis73rRand0m 2 күн бұрын
I have an XI, does that make it a GT-R?
@NeverEnoughRally
@NeverEnoughRally 2 күн бұрын
The rear diff is a Toyota 8", similar to what was in the trucks. You can swap gear sets meant for trucks into these with the right combination of side bearings.
@Jared45513
@Jared45513 2 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, love it man! And thats coming from a pretty big toyota/supra fan. I have an ebay knock off and an oem toyota ct26 dual inlet turbo, downpipe, and manifold I would give you if you decide to go that direction. They ran good, spooled fast on the 5sfe. Lag was minimal to none as long as you didnt dog it. There sitting on my shelf, we can email if your wantin them.
@xozindustries7451
@xozindustries7451 2 күн бұрын
Wow, I’m surprised how heavy that thing is, cool project. I vote roots or screw supercharger, it will be cool to have a auto cross / road course car
@froopty1854
@froopty1854 2 күн бұрын
I think this would be an excellent time attack car, really show the capability of the 4200 in circuit conditions, also a 4200 with individual throttle bodies would be absolutely wild to hear
@petervanhorn6543
@petervanhorn6543 2 күн бұрын
I think NA or supercharged would be different, just discovered your channel and I am absolutely hooked on 4200s
@sijonda
@sijonda 2 күн бұрын
Despite the paint, that thing looks really clean. For relevance I live in the rust belt.
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 2 күн бұрын
Yeah. It's got a few bad spots, but everything structural is good to go.
@stevenreid-g2y
@stevenreid-g2y 2 күн бұрын
Would like to see a well-sized turbo to make @500-600 awhp. Let's face it, we live in the era of the turbocharger and I'm all for it!
@JamesJames-r8t
@JamesJames-r8t 2 күн бұрын
But he could make that na 😢😢 Why you Want to make such little power when you use force induction😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 bruh at least 800 or more with forced induction 😢😢😢
@seanrose3951
@seanrose3951 2 күн бұрын
Right, your english sucks worse then your comprehension of vehicles.
@DANOBILL
@DANOBILL 2 күн бұрын
I think it’s about time someone does a Baja style engine build. Maybe bore it out and/ or build it to rev high. That or the supercharger would be cool. We want to see something with an unobstructed exhaust!
@jayburrough4308
@jayburrough4308 Күн бұрын
For sure turbo for this car
@tylerdiaz906
@tylerdiaz906 Күн бұрын
N/A build with ITB’s!!!
@paulhoogeveen7353
@paulhoogeveen7353 2 күн бұрын
Barra powered Mustang!!!
@kyletice811
@kyletice811 2 күн бұрын
I vote custom m122 supercharger setup. All the torque. Instantly snd some nice whine.
@ethanschocke333
@ethanschocke333 2 күн бұрын
its actually ironic the ar5 is a common JZ swap trans. its basically an R154 supra trans but for murica.
@Greaseland
@Greaseland Күн бұрын
Welcome to the world of going around turns.
@4BillC
@4BillC 2 күн бұрын
MK3's are very under appreciated and personally I'd rather have the MK3 because of that. MK4 draws too much attention. I supercharger would be sick, but NA hp is usually better. This coming from a guy that is pushing 25psi (really small turbo) just to make 300whp with a little 1.8. End goal is 400ish I just need to put the bigger turbo on and finish the exhaust. The car only weighs 3280lbs with me in it and is a daily so I don't want to go crazy. I wish I could make that power NA! But I get 20mpg on pump E85 so I can't complain really...
@tlovsoe4211
@tlovsoe4211 Күн бұрын
I think na sounds best. however it would be cool to do a fast spooling turbo car using a swirl throttle.
@joesf1026
@joesf1026 2 күн бұрын
Supracharger ftw
@randoawesomemix9501
@randoawesomemix9501 2 күн бұрын
Yes! 3rd is my favorite generation of Supra.
@s7v7nfiv5
@s7v7nfiv5 2 күн бұрын
Now thats what am talking about Love those supras theres plenty of parts available in the market and even 1 of them recently made it in the word final.
@Audi30V
@Audi30V 2 күн бұрын
Turbocharging would be fitting for the car, but 300+ NA hp would be great for autocross and would be excellent content since it’s a different avenue from your usual 4200 builds. That gets my vote.
@Rocksolidbullys
@Rocksolidbullys Күн бұрын
Let's show them 2jz boys that gm can make a wicked inline 6 engine just as well..! The camaro and Supra are going to skyrocket your channel!!! I am very excited to see what you can do with these.🔥👌
@dannyjr7997
@dannyjr7997 2 күн бұрын
NA POWER would be great! Should hit around 280hp with higher compression and intake easily. These 4200 breath so good.
@Calvin-Nelson
@Calvin-Nelson 2 күн бұрын
Yeah. They make 291 at the crank from GM, so 300+ wheel should be easy
@estebanmatias92
@estebanmatias92 23 сағат бұрын
Supracharger or NA, both sound great.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI Күн бұрын
Go N/A but keep it pump gas friendly . . . If at all possible. Good luck, I'll be watching. 😎👍
@BuildaMan
@BuildaMan 2 күн бұрын
I am all for making this an autocross car or something along the lines of having to turn and i am also for the idea of doing a balls to the walls NA build just to see what it can do in that respect and to hear how it would sound.
@2dogsmowing
@2dogsmowing Күн бұрын
The mid to late 80s Honda Accord is resembles the supra alot. 🤔
@PiDsPagePrototypes
@PiDsPagePrototypes 2 күн бұрын
Clutched Supercharger that feeds Intercooler until Turbocharger has spooled up, so it's never off boost. But keep the boost limited and let it rev, making it fun on twisty mountain roads rather than a drag car.
@hopingforthebest1.9
@hopingforthebest1.9 Күн бұрын
I would be curious to see how much power you could squeeze out of it all motor Maybe with some kind of ITB setup as well?
@McDoubleNopick1es
@McDoubleNopick1es Күн бұрын
Someone in a reply said compund and i agree, a small one for low end spool that feeds into a big boy for the top end.
@OriginalTypeQ
@OriginalTypeQ 2 күн бұрын
I think if you are building an auto-cross car, build the engine option you can get running reliably in the least time. Then focus on improving your driving skills and fine tuning the suspension.
@leveluplife8585
@leveluplife8585 Күн бұрын
Torqueamp style supercharger would be a cool build and relatively simple compared to turbos
@fuse8052
@fuse8052 2 күн бұрын
I love the idea of the mega high compression NA engine. I like the supercharger idea more , but I also do autocross. NA cars I feel are more at home there
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