Nixie multimeter repair (M1T-242)

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DiodeGoneWild

DiodeGoneWild

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@RocRizzo
@RocRizzo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that last comment. People have to hear that more these days.
@CliveChamberlain946
@CliveChamberlain946 Жыл бұрын
How could you say "crazy channel" 😂 This is one of the most sane places of refuge I've ever had on Yuk Tube. You sir are "in the zone" - Have a great day! 🥰🥰🤗
@andymouse
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
"Makes more sense than the hyperloop I guess" never a truer word spoken great vid. Oh yeah please have a look at the other one...cheers!
@amydamon2323
@amydamon2323 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Definitely try to fix the other one. I learn so much from your interesting videos.
@German_byte
@German_byte Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support ;)
@perhansson6718
@perhansson6718 Жыл бұрын
8:13 This over voltage protection is actually used by Fluke since many many years, there is an EEVBlog episode that explains it: #1157 - Transistor Zener Clamp Circuit
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
thanks :) I didn't know this was commonly used.
@TheSaemiProduction
@TheSaemiProduction Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing me insight in this era of technology I was not a part of.
@airmann90
@airmann90 Жыл бұрын
That meter is beautiful inside!
@Alexelectricalengineering
@Alexelectricalengineering Жыл бұрын
Awesome, definitely try to fix the other one too.👍👍
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍I'm working on the other one ;)
@Alexelectricalengineering
@Alexelectricalengineering Жыл бұрын
@@DiodeGoneWild Awesome 😎
@joegrow9998
@joegrow9998 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to hit you up and thank you again for being you!! I've been trying to teach myself Electrical Engineering for a bit now, and because of you and your cat, I was able to fix my first SMPS!!! You put out a video about 4 years ago using the same control chip. so,,, LONG story short, because of the way you explain electronics, ( i think your cat is a bit better but::)) Thank you so much!! you are AMAZING!!!
@krnlg
@krnlg Жыл бұрын
I love the little clicking sounds it makes while ranging when you disconnect the wire from it!
@tomboxyz5564
@tomboxyz5564 Жыл бұрын
Devices with a transformer and diode power supply can actually cause quite a lot of interferance, usually the diode conducts only a small fraction of the cycle, you get current spikes that start a moment before the AC voltage reaches it's peak and stop at the peak voltage, without any inductors the peak current through the diode can be in the range of 10x the load current and it get's worse with more filtration, short current pulses cause a lot of harmonics and result in EMI
@change_your_oil_regularly4287
@change_your_oil_regularly4287 Жыл бұрын
I love these older analog devices Where I live these types of devices are extremely rare Yes you should definitely try fixing the other one!
@sg_electronics
@sg_electronics Жыл бұрын
Yes, go for the next one! Nice job!
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
I've started working on it ;)
@tonepress
@tonepress Жыл бұрын
@@DiodeGoneWild Niiiice ;-)
@erickvond6825
@erickvond6825 Жыл бұрын
Personally I like watching the fixes because they reveal the failure mode of the device. So I think you should definitely fix the other one. It would be interesting to see what broke or failed in it.
@Agent24Electronics
@Agent24Electronics Жыл бұрын
I would like to see that too.
@harrymartin1661
@harrymartin1661 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is the best!
@tajtrlik1111
@tajtrlik1111 Жыл бұрын
Tak toto video ma veľmi potešilo! Sám vlastním dva takéto kúsky, obidva kúpené na bazoši, jeden funkčný, druhý nefunkčný, ale nebudem sa pokúšať ho opraviť keď jeden funguje, lebo opravy mi idú veľmi zle a ani neviem kde by som mal začať. Inak je to veľmi pekne vyzerajúci prístroj, ja osobne považujem digitróny za najkrajšie displeje a hneď po nich sú fluorescenčné displeje v mojom rebríčku obľúbenosti. A na to, že tam nie sú žiadne LSI IO (obvody vysokej integrácie) ale iba SSI a MSI (malej a strednej integrácie) tak ho dokázali vyrobiť veľmi malý a kompaktný. Tento prístroj sa myslím si že Metre Blansko veľmi podaril, najmä vzhľadom k tomu, čo bolo u nás dostupné (myslím súčiastková základňa).
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 Жыл бұрын
Great vintage technology, Nixie tubes are awesome, and these have the nice 5's. Interesting that they were still used for displays in the 1980's. Tesla makes a lot of electronic components and discrete TTL drivers with 7490, 7475 and 74141 IC's for the tubes.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Why not keep using nixies, if it works :). The LED displays of that era were dim. USSR kept producing nixies (and even dekatrons!!!) until 1992.
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 Жыл бұрын
100% agreed there.@@DiodeGoneWild
@G1ZQCArtwork
@G1ZQCArtwork Жыл бұрын
I always find your channel very informative, educational and very entertaining, especially when the Cat chimes in with a comment. I have been in Electronics for 55 plus years now, I used to service Arcade gambling machines in an arcade on the coast here in England. Qualified Radio Amateur. Now playing with LiFePo batteries and inverters. Built and fixed many computers in the Desktop days, not so much now with portable devices, the components are way too small to see. I have been practicing with SMD components but struggle to see without a huge magnifying glass. Keep up the good work exposing all these dodgy and super dodgy chargers. David (G1ZQC) U.K.
@Electronichub_05
@Electronichub_05 Жыл бұрын
I recently got two Czechoslovakian solder guns too, it works so nice and it actually can run long before overheating :)
@petermikus2363
@petermikus2363 Жыл бұрын
Ia it a tesla soldering station or those big bakelite soldering guns?
@Electronichub_05
@Electronichub_05 Жыл бұрын
@@petermikus2363 they are both soldering guns
@RK-kn1ud
@RK-kn1ud Жыл бұрын
That is a VERY awesome meter!
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the update rate is really fast. Faster than modern multimeters and all done with discrete logic/transistors. Only the $300+ stupidly expensive keithly/keysight multimeters are that fast.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Yes, I also like the fast update :). It's very practical when trying to set a potentiometer looking at the display.
@Agent24Electronics
@Agent24Electronics Жыл бұрын
As soon as software processing gets involved, things get mushy.
@MrRelevance02
@MrRelevance02 Жыл бұрын
Impressive in general too see how basic electronics used to be. Thanks for the upload
@Gengh13
@Gengh13 Жыл бұрын
Nixies will forever be my favorite display technology.
@0x9066
@0x9066 Жыл бұрын
I've had Meratronik V543 in my lab. Was quite heavy, but also very accurate due to dual slope operation. I used it quite a lot till it died in very unpleasant way back in 2013 (tantalum cap failed on short and burned PCB traces) Pozdravy z Polska!
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
I have V541 which still works to this day :)
@dragonrider4253
@dragonrider4253 Жыл бұрын
Those tiny range relays clicking is like electronic ASMR to me. I absolutely adore older tech like this, and I also love nixie tubes. I have a nixie clock actually, and you should definitely try to repair that other one.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
I also like the sound :) well, I like the sound of big relays and contactors too :D. Old technology is simply way cooler. I've already repaired the other one, the video is now available for my Patrons, it will be public on Sunday.
@tvelektron
@tvelektron Жыл бұрын
Interesting that they still used nixie tubes in late 80s. I am quite sure that time there have been 7 segment LED displays in eastern europe too
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Yes, LED displays already existed (red, yellow, green), but they were dim. Tesla in Czechoslovakia was producing some, East German RFT also produced them. But a lot of devices still used nixies for a better readability. There's also M1T-242A version, which used green LED displays unlike my M1T-242, otherwise mostly the same thing.
@ivolol
@ivolol Жыл бұрын
Would be fun to go over how its ADC does the measurement
@johnwelbourn3811
@johnwelbourn3811 Жыл бұрын
I love these old tech repair videos DGW, definitely have a go at the secong unit, or at least put it on your "to do" list
@aurthorthing7403
@aurthorthing7403 Жыл бұрын
That's pretty neat man... I dig it.
@Ale.K7
@Ale.K7 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Would love to see the other one repaired too.
@kd5byb
@kd5byb Жыл бұрын
I love your cat's comments! She's awesome. :)
@catalinbadalan4463
@catalinbadalan4463 Жыл бұрын
When thinking about the old times we get melancholic because of how WE were, not because of how the THINGS were...
@techtinkerin
@techtinkerin Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, very wise words at the end! 😎👍
@MC-01
@MC-01 Жыл бұрын
Marcoreps would be proud
@stanimir4197
@stanimir4197 Жыл бұрын
he would have changed all caps just for good measure.
@MC-01
@MC-01 Жыл бұрын
@@stanimir4197yes i think he would, instead using modern one's, he's gonna use new old stock ones like Soviet or TESLA caps
@beatrute2677
@beatrute2677 Жыл бұрын
Nice one man.
@TheSpotify95
@TheSpotify95 Жыл бұрын
Nice fix, and yes definitely fix the other one as well! :)
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
How I fixed the other one will be shown in the next video ;).
@ChipGuy
@ChipGuy Жыл бұрын
Yes, fix the 2nd one too... always good. I can see at some point that +/-15V module blew and someone replaced it with a 7815/7915 selfmade module.
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk Жыл бұрын
Nixies were always very cool
@AllLoudNation365
@AllLoudNation365 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@AmatorElektronik
@AmatorElektronik Жыл бұрын
Nice repair :-)
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect Жыл бұрын
Is there a table or calculator anywhere that says what ESRs are "acceptable" for what capacitors?
@noelj62
@noelj62 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, freedom of speech is a right to be fought for.
@technixbul
@technixbul Жыл бұрын
Nice! I want to build one like this. ;)
@NZHippie
@NZHippie Жыл бұрын
Wow what a wonder multimeter, the tried and tested old tech has many advantages including well defined MTBF data and its easier to repair/maintain than bleeding edge tech...
@stefflus08
@stefflus08 Жыл бұрын
Those 7475 latches explain the meaning of that Connels' song: I was the one who let you know I was your "sorry ever after" '74-'75 Giving me more and I'll defy 'Cause you're really only after '74-'75
@toma.cnc1
@toma.cnc1 Жыл бұрын
Vyborne, dekuju.
@migry
@migry Жыл бұрын
I noticed the smoke marks on the power strip. Was the cause shown in a video we have not yet seen?
@German_byte
@German_byte Жыл бұрын
Yes, let’s see you fix the second one.
@simasnaderi3997
@simasnaderi3997 Жыл бұрын
Great bro
@celsoneves2368
@celsoneves2368 Жыл бұрын
Good
@davenally8672
@davenally8672 Жыл бұрын
"It makes much more sense than the hyper loop I guess" 🤣
@cambridgemart2075
@cambridgemart2075 Жыл бұрын
Completely unrelated to the video content, but you have a variation of the Schuko 16A mains connector used across most of the EU; when did the Czech republic adopt this connector? I assume it was post 1990?
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Our type E socket is better! :) it looks nicer, it's polarized (unlike type F), and the ground has a more reliable contact.
@mernokimuvek
@mernokimuvek Жыл бұрын
@@DiodeGoneWild But in Fance and Belgium, the phase must be on the right hole, exactly opposite to the czech standard. So it's only polarized in a single country. The Schuko also has a very reliable ground contact and can handle continuously 16 A like live and neutral without overheating. It doesnt look nicer to me because Im used to Schuko and the older ungrounded sockets. In my unpopular opinion, the british plugs and sockets are absolutely the worst ever invented: large, ugly, heavy and overengineered safety designed to protect dumb people from shocking themselves.
@pettypavlow8330
@pettypavlow8330 Жыл бұрын
Very Good!!
@Alchemetica
@Alchemetica Жыл бұрын
Another top video, nice cat comment.
@matusekpetr7806
@matusekpetr7806 Жыл бұрын
Ty dva antiparalelní tranzistory jsou ochrana před pěpětím přesně jak jsi řekl, využívá se tam zaverneho napeti asi 5V na prechodu B-E. 🙂
@W1RMD
@W1RMD Жыл бұрын
I love the looks of eastern European electronics! You don't find cool stuff like this in the U.S. Anything with nixies is cool anyway, which is getting harder to find although there is a company in Czechoslovakia that is now producing new production nixie tubes. They are NOT cheap, but rightfully so. Thanks for sharing this excellent technology with us!
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын
Thats a nice bench meter, i'm sure you will make it accurate and stable :-D If it was mine i would swap the displays/drivers for led ones, but that's my bias. Exploding filters lol , fun for all the family 😀 I didn't expect the capacitors to be that good still.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Replacing nixies with LED displays? Noooo! Hell NO!!! And electrolytic capacitors are not the worst problem, paper capacitors are. That's why I replaced the interference filter preventively. Fortunately, no other capacitor in this thing is paper.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын
i have done this once, but the frequency counter belonged to a friend and the nixie tubes were really really dead. all the voltages were there, but the tubes were very dead. i replaced the bcd chips for led drivers and resistors. I terminated the high voltage supply. The led display was green, i still have the old chips.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
@@zx8401ztv I'd rather give it new nixies ;) because this is like straightening the Leaning Tower of Pisa :D.
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv Жыл бұрын
@@DiodeGoneWild Well there were experts that carefully improved the foundation and made it tilt back a little. Its safer than it was :-D I think it was built on Crappy soil (How the hell did it not fall over). All of the Nixies were very dead in that frequency counter,. The owner was so happy that it worked again. I found nothing wrong with the supplies. The ovan was perfect. But it would not cook my dinner :) I still have the 12 driver chips (20 years ago) (why i dont know) SN74141 4-10 line BCD to DEC None latching 60v numerator Output.
@zUltra3D
@zUltra3D Жыл бұрын
12:42 About this ring tester, how does it work and what can the information be used for?
@TriodeTetrode
@TriodeTetrode Жыл бұрын
He has two videos about it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3PFdoyPjM51f5o kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2LHoKOjrdWbaKM
@LawpickingLocksmith
@LawpickingLocksmith Жыл бұрын
Thanks for bring your cat back. Number 1 1Apple Macbook repair hater and ranter has a new armchair and his 3 cats must suffer in silence.
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 Жыл бұрын
Even I recognise the Metra Blansko logo, and I am Australian.
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
How that's possible? :)
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 Жыл бұрын
@@DiodeGoneWild When I was a little kid, I obtained (from somewhere, I don't know where) a polystyrene box of 10uA panel meters, and each of them had a Metra Blansko tag tied to it. I think it was because the USSR was sending a lot of stuff our way in its latter years. There were enough of them that I still have some, and so many of my projects have the meters with the "Devil's Tail" M logo conspicuously shown.
@lukasmauer230
@lukasmauer230 Жыл бұрын
What about that two red LEDs? 🤔
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
Strangely, they're not in the schematic :). It seems to be a slightly different version. They're using them in a series combination instead of the DZ1 Zener diode. It's in the current source for the resistance meter, I guess.
@wolfgangrichter6088
@wolfgangrichter6088 Жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity: Does the meter switch make before brake when changing the current ranges ?
@NewMicroElectronics-yv1ek
@NewMicroElectronics-yv1ek Жыл бұрын
My dear, how many years old this digital mullti tester?🤔
@lmwlmw4468
@lmwlmw4468 Жыл бұрын
Nice.
@Harry001by7
@Harry001by7 Жыл бұрын
Are we still living with our ancestors 😂
@Kris_M
@Kris_M Жыл бұрын
Yes, T3 en T4 make more sense than that other thing.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the construction looks that old, especially for a professional type tool which does not need to be flashy and modern. I was just working on a Sony Walkman also from 1987 and was surprised it was all through-hole components.
@thisisdvd8094
@thisisdvd8094 Жыл бұрын
Is the clicking at 14:29 the relays?
@DiodeGoneWild
@DiodeGoneWild Жыл бұрын
yes, the reed relays ;)
@OswaldWeidner-jt8ng
@OswaldWeidner-jt8ng Ай бұрын
Right!🇩🇪❤️
@ruayfe7342
@ruayfe7342 Жыл бұрын
Make an autopsy of the filter that likes to explode.
@krtek2O2
@krtek2O2 Жыл бұрын
mám v práci na stole obě verze, i tu s LED displejem. Mají jednu výhodu, nepotřebují baterky :)
@dipubiswas8520
@dipubiswas8520 Жыл бұрын
@1:06 minute......😀😀😀😀
@smeezekitty
@smeezekitty Жыл бұрын
They probably didn't have a 63mA fuse. It is a pretty tiny value.
@smcic
@smcic Жыл бұрын
fix the other one!
@antibrevity
@antibrevity Жыл бұрын
8:12. Ah, so someone else wasted their time reading the white paper as well ;).
@perhansson6718
@perhansson6718 Жыл бұрын
This over voltage protection is actually used by Fluke since many many years, there is an EEVBlog episode that explains it: #1157 - Transistor Zener Clamp Circuit
@000mig000
@000mig000 Жыл бұрын
Co vím tak tam lidi dost často mění i ty tantaly.
@robames1293
@robames1293 Жыл бұрын
Imagine it's price in 1968
@erikziak1249
@erikziak1249 Жыл бұрын
Nájs.
@marioointegraic
@marioointegraic Жыл бұрын
nice post komunist multimeter , 87 , ehhhh nostalgic , but my dear frend , must to very deep renowation this , elektrolitic caps , all , second work new kalibration or clening all licensed isotats , this multimeter first stage bulding its a very godly ic op amps , TESLA low noise maa 501 or maa 701 or letter models , typical analogic construction
@TylerDurden-pk5km
@TylerDurden-pk5km Жыл бұрын
Freedom of speech is really not a thing in the Europeans countries (except maybe to a certain degree in some of the Scandinavian countries) - only the things you are not allowed to say or you have changed. You will still be jailed if you say the wrong things.
@Mark1024MAK
@Mark1024MAK Жыл бұрын
Freedom of speech is a very important thing. As is freedom of the press (media) and free and fair democratic elections to decide on the government.
@TylerDurden-pk5km
@TylerDurden-pk5km Жыл бұрын
@@Mark1024MAK It is desirable - but not a thing in Europe (with few limited exceptions). Freedom of the press - exists formally, but of course the press is also covered by the speech crime laws.
@lycanananas_sq5fox
@lycanananas_sq5fox Жыл бұрын
You should try some Polish electronic equipment from communism era.
@long-d4k
@long-d4k Жыл бұрын
Can you gift me one of them please?
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