NJPW Name SUSPENDED After Negative AEW Comments | WWE Confirms Saudi Arabia Royal Rumble

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@GATguy98
@GATguy98 16 күн бұрын
I still dont see how anyone believes Gabe Kidd hates AEW when he literally wrestled at Forbidden Door last year
@Noisy_Army_YT
@Noisy_Army_YT 16 күн бұрын
I'm guessing his story goes through tk to see if he's OK with what he says the commentator probably just said stuff that nobody expected
@alfiewillis4893
@alfiewillis4893 12 күн бұрын
He worked with Tony Khan in that promo, but because Chris Charlton didn't, he got suspended. It was for the benefit of heightening tensions but because NJPW are simps and Tony Khan has paper-thin skin, he got shit for it.
@alfiewillis4893
@alfiewillis4893 12 күн бұрын
@@Noisy_Army_YT Exactly, but commentators aren't given a 2 hour run-down and the idea that anybody would be legitimately offended by this makes me think NJPW are just all-too willing to let Tony gut the company, or reaffirms that Tony himself is a gigantic quivering vagina who shakes at even a modicum of conflict. I hate this.
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 16 күн бұрын
I think part of the difference is Chris isn't a wrestling talent.
@alcheman12
@alcheman12 16 күн бұрын
Neither is Tony
@AaronCrawford09
@AaronCrawford09 16 күн бұрын
And Khan is? Making that claim that he is means the wrestling commentator working the show is just as much of a wrestling talent as the promoter, then.
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 16 күн бұрын
@@AaronCrawford09 I didn't say he was. I'm talking about the difference between Chris and the wrestlers.
@wanderlustwarrior
@wanderlustwarrior 16 күн бұрын
@@alcheman12 duh. Did you not get the comment?
@alcheman12
@alcheman12 16 күн бұрын
@@wanderlustwarrior ??
@MrBeardsley
@MrBeardsley 16 күн бұрын
Regardless of your feelings about AEW and Tony Khan, you really can’t blame NJPW for suspending Charlton. Unless it’s part of an angle you can’t have one of your commentators using your airtime to shoot on one of your business partners. It’s like if Michael Cole went on Raw and said Slim Jims are made from cat poop.
@rodericklittle9324
@rodericklittle9324 16 күн бұрын
man stfu they could of turned this to $$$$$$$$$$
@cybersaur7394
@cybersaur7394 16 күн бұрын
Oh, you mean the entire angle that Omega-Kidd was built around? Or the angle that numerous Japanese speaking wrestlers have been shooting all year long in Japanese backstage interviews (EVIL, Yota Tsuji, Yuya Uemura, Great-O-Khan, etc.) Charlton was working, and TK is a mark who got worked.
@TheHardys01
@TheHardys01 16 күн бұрын
​@@cybersaur7394Charlton did very poorly on commentary, both nights, and then went on to say some very wild/poorly worded shlt.
@PlentyFromJuanSheet
@PlentyFromJuanSheet 16 күн бұрын
I dunno why, but that last sentence made me burst laughing. It’s just the vision of Michael Cole going rogue in his isolated box. 😂
@Daz_or_Daz
@Daz_or_Daz 16 күн бұрын
Yeah you can, he played into the storylines of Dynasty, dont do a wrestling angle with NJPW vs AEW if you are both gonna be massive pussies
@CorruptedOreo1
@CorruptedOreo1 16 күн бұрын
Imagine the comment section if VKM got somebody suspended in a completely different company
@djzigg3284
@djzigg3284 16 күн бұрын
That would be the least of his misdeeds.
@elite_artist351
@elite_artist351 16 күн бұрын
Like I’ve said, people tend to run to Tony’s defense because him and AEW were supposed to “save” wrestling.
@Fdatubeofyou
@Fdatubeofyou 16 күн бұрын
TK didn’t do anything. Listen to them talk, Damn
@SirAsdf
@SirAsdf 16 күн бұрын
Tony didn't personally demand that NJPW suspend Chris Charlton if that's what you're implying. Also this seems like pretty standard practice when one of your employees decides to insult and defame one of your largest international business partners.
@Patrick-xf1cw
@Patrick-xf1cw 16 күн бұрын
Right, but that’s not what happened, is it? NJPW themselves were unhappy and suspended him, it wasn’t at TK’s behest.
@GamerFlair
@GamerFlair 16 күн бұрын
I mean, its either a) A work, which is entirely possible, especially given that its being already said its a two month suspension and his back for the New Japan Cup. b) Didn't get it cleared prior. You can make the argument that his furthering an angle and this and that and its all totally valid, but if your going to do that, you have to either get instructed to do it, or pitch it and have it cleared. Punk didn't sit down on the stage and drop a Pipe bomb without anyone knowing he was going to do it. Joey Styles didn't eviserate WWE on WWE TV of his own back. They were both angles, to further and story and were discussed and agreed prior. In terms of show length, I think Raw can kind of be whatever now due to it being Netflix. Smackdown has to have a more rigid timeslot due to being on real TV, so I think 2 hours is best long term. 2 and half hours is cute, but I don't think its something networks really want as you have to program around it which means you need either a 30 minute or 90 minute show to pair up with it.
@thedogwoods5716
@thedogwoods5716 14 күн бұрын
A work that once again draws nothing because only the hardcore is would even know or care about it
@alfiewillis4893
@alfiewillis4893 12 күн бұрын
It's not a work because it doesn't actually make either company look good and it's entirely because Tiny Con was made to look like a jackoff nepotism loser (which he is).
@dpmilligan4487
@dpmilligan4487 16 күн бұрын
I actually thought Rocky was not adding to commentary and Chris Charlton was fiery and great. They SHOULD make a AEW NJPW rivalry as their work relationship continues
@iLLiDaN30
@iLLiDaN30 16 күн бұрын
Saudi Arabia Royal Rumble? No thanks. I really hoped that the new WWE era would get rid of that blood money, but seems like they are still greedy
@ticket5594
@ticket5594 16 күн бұрын
US is worse than Saudi Arabia.
@alastair852
@alastair852 16 күн бұрын
A change in management doesn't void contracts signed by previous management. I don't know if HHH wants to do the Saudi shows or not, I don't know the man, but I do know that he has obligations to fulfill. I'd love to see WWE cut ties with Saudi Arabia's government, but that's a ways off if it ever does happen (unlikely since the UFC half of TKO is also tied up with them)
@ticket5594
@ticket5594 16 күн бұрын
@alastair852 What about cutting ties with US government ?
@alastair852
@alastair852 16 күн бұрын
@ticket5594 that'd also be pretty nice yeah.
@alastair852
@alastair852 16 күн бұрын
@ticket5594 That would also be pretty nice.
@puddingcatsteamboat6393
@puddingcatsteamboat6393 16 күн бұрын
unfortunate i won’t be able to watch the Rumble next year, it’s one of my favorite events but i refuse to watch the blood money shows. having not heard the commentary myself i cannot say how bad it actually came across but if the guy was genuinely slagging off a business partner he definitely deserves some form of punishment.
@J92-DS
@J92-DS 16 күн бұрын
Aww shucks
@RyuSensei42
@RyuSensei42 16 күн бұрын
I worked in Japan for over a decade. Yeah, talking shit about a business partner will ABSOLUTELY get you fired in that culture. Besides, we've seen how NJPW does NOT like when people go off script. Frankly, as a fan of BOTH products, I found his commentary off putting and it took me out of the match a bit.
@MrKingkz
@MrKingkz 16 күн бұрын
I thought they where building an angle 😂
@RyuSensei42
@RyuSensei42 16 күн бұрын
@@MrKingkz I thought so too at first, but it was so weird. Kenny was clearly the babyface coming into this match and the "I'm the defender of NJPW" stuff from Kidd came across as an entitled and delusional heel talking shit (and every other English swear word he could think of). But on commentary Chris is absolutely burying him and celebrating the War Dogs. Only thing weirder would have been him suddenly being pro House of Torture.
@serenity6555
@serenity6555 16 күн бұрын
@@RyuSensei42 the crowd was fully behind kidd, kenny was not the face
@ralphbohner6166
@ralphbohner6166 16 күн бұрын
Partner or not... What lie did he tell though? Thats people problem. Always want to sweep the truth under a rug.
@duke_of_tako
@duke_of_tako 16 күн бұрын
@@ralphbohner6166 It's not though. If it was the US then maybe, but Japan is ALL about reputation and respect. If you publicly disparage a business partner, it's seen as a VERY big deal. There was probably very serious discussion about whether to let Chris go.
@michaelrandle7296
@michaelrandle7296 16 күн бұрын
Charlton didn't lie about anything...
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 16 күн бұрын
WWE needs to end its blood money Saudi deal
@heath1948
@heath1948 16 күн бұрын
I cringe to see what the womens were a rumble will look like
@saintofselhurst
@saintofselhurst 16 күн бұрын
​@@heath1948 30 power ranger outfits with a dead crowd that won't care one bit
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 15 күн бұрын
Nah it's a business it's making money it has an obligation to it's stakeholders. Westerners just cry about it but do nothing
@Dr_1212
@Dr_1212 15 күн бұрын
@@deathmauler181 U don't sell your soul for money
@heath1948
@heath1948 15 күн бұрын
@@saintofselhurst That's about it
@charlesoliviera
@charlesoliviera 16 күн бұрын
Oh NOW my fellow WWE fans care about NJPW...
@SirAsdf
@SirAsdf 16 күн бұрын
I get the feeling Chris was told to sort of play up the AEW Vs NJPW thing, but went way too over the top with it. Like he tried to play a heel when he does not have the skill set to do that and he just came off like when Michael Cole was making early 2010s WWE programming even more unwatchable.
@anointed6386
@anointed6386 16 күн бұрын
All true statements from Chris. Tony is a money mark, the continental classic is a joke compared to the G1, and AEW has ruined Okada. It's just wild that a commentator would say all that. I'm shocked he's keeping his job.
@TheHardys01
@TheHardys01 16 күн бұрын
AEW does not need to pander to someone who has already committed to hating them.
@sizablekoala6879
@sizablekoala6879 16 күн бұрын
I definitely agree with Okada. I never watched NJPW, but I always heard how great he was. I was so excited to see what great stories they would do with him. Instead, he has just been hanging around the Young Bucks.
@williamroper5422
@williamroper5422 16 күн бұрын
​@@sizablekoala6879He hasn't had any great storylines, but to say he has been ruined is overly dramatic.
@sizablekoala6879
@sizablekoala6879 16 күн бұрын
@williamroper5422 Yeah, I'm not saying ruined. I'm just saying as someone who never saw him before coming to AEW that I haven't seen why everyone said he was so great. He probably is great, but AEW has failed to show potential new fans like me why he is. It's like how I loved the Lucha Bros in Lucha Underground, but then AEW didn't do any big stories with them.
@sychowalker
@sychowalker 16 күн бұрын
Why didn't you guy do a review or a live stream on Wrestle Kingdom 19 or Wrestle Dynasty?
@ChrisTomson
@ChrisTomson 16 күн бұрын
NJPW love copyright striking videos that give them any coverage using footage and audio they own. So KZbinrs in general flat out avoid featuring the company when they can
@Bill-Door
@Bill-Door 16 күн бұрын
They probably want i expand their audience and views per video. Njpw is just too niche. They also don't really cover anything from mexico or south America for the same reason. 🤷🏻 Wwe and aew is just where the money is, even if tony khan is trying his very best to change that...
@corbing7786
@corbing7786 16 күн бұрын
@@Bill-Door They did a lot of Wrestle Kingdom stuff a few years ago when NJPW was hot, if they thought they would get the views to justify it they'd do it.
@Bill-Door
@Bill-Door 16 күн бұрын
​@@corbing7786they did, and some of the lads at cultaholic like njpw, i know Sam certainly does and Jack used to at least, but if they aren't covering it on the channel anymore, there's probably a reason for that.
@TheOmegaRiddler
@TheOmegaRiddler 15 күн бұрын
The issue was that Chris Charlton was unprofessional in his approach. He was just shitting all over AEW like they've ruined talent grown in NJPW because they followed the money.
@worldelite5016
@worldelite5016 15 күн бұрын
Since when WWE cared about NJPW? When? Justice for Chris Charlton, the man speaks the truth.
@Wercik997
@Wercik997 15 күн бұрын
I think Chris is quite angry about what AEW did with Kevin Kelly. Rightfully so.
@gfear24
@gfear24 15 күн бұрын
"Negative AEW commentary" = He told the truth.
@andydiaz6119
@andydiaz6119 16 күн бұрын
Would be cool watching raw and not having a set time for Raw to finish. You can watch the main event of raw and not know when the finish to the match is coming.
@cinnabae6127
@cinnabae6127 16 күн бұрын
In Japan, there are very strict rules when dealing with business partners. Disrespect is NOT tolerated. Even if it can simply appear to be disrespectful. He's lucky he wasn't fired. And TK probably didn't ask for them to take action.
@OnyxANZ
@OnyxANZ 16 күн бұрын
Except NJPW has NEVER given a shit about what English commentary have said. Kevin Kelly for example was constantly making fun of NOAH and AEW and nobody cared. It wasn't until Rocky Romero decided to go insert himself into commentary, and then complain because a commentator was putting in some actual work and talking about the other company (AEW never mentions NJPW), that something finally happened.
@notaproblemmm
@notaproblemmm 16 күн бұрын
Honestly, watching the show I didn't think much of what Charlton had said. I thought the comments he made were clearly in-character as a NJPW loyalist. Even mid Omega/Kidd match after the spot where Gabe was powerbombed onto the table outside, hitting his head on the floor. Bryce Remsburg, the referee, was checking on Gabe as he thinks he might be knocked out and might rule it as a stoppage but on commentary Chris very angrily says "it's not for Bryce to decide" Looking at that, it's very clear to me that Chris was playing into his character of being a NJPW loyalist. Logic being "aew referee" shouldn't stop "njpw wrestler" from beating "aew wrestler". Unless you're telling me at that point in time, out of kayfabe, Chris wanted to Gabe to continue fighting even if he might have been actually concussed. Regardless his absence on the English commentary will be missed for the Goto Vs ZSJ match.
@sadboi88
@sadboi88 16 күн бұрын
Some of it went a bit overboard and he didn't tone it down when Rocky was clearly telling him to. I think it's a bit stupid to suspend him, though.
@notaproblemmm
@notaproblemmm 14 күн бұрын
Honestly watching it, I thought they were all playing characters. But seeing the reaction afterwards plenty of people didn't seem to think so/found it offensive. I admit, this may just be me being woefully ignorant though. Just glad we can agree that suspending him is not the wisest of choice
@johnwhittington2998
@johnwhittington2998 16 күн бұрын
He ain’t wrong tbf
@starscreammtfan
@starscreammtfan 16 күн бұрын
Maybe but are you going to keep someone in your company that won't stop shit talking your business partner?
@BlackWind-rx5il
@BlackWind-rx5il 16 күн бұрын
That's not the point.
@alan0285
@alan0285 16 күн бұрын
A mark that can't recognize an angle. 😂😂😂😂
@kryceksangel
@kryceksangel 16 күн бұрын
He is
@ralphbohner6166
@ralphbohner6166 16 күн бұрын
@@starscreammtfantheir business partner doesn't truly know how to run a wrestling company though. Only thing that was keeping AEW afloat was papa Khan until the new tv deal.
@cybersaur7394
@cybersaur7394 16 күн бұрын
Actual NJPW viewer here, Charlton was absolutely working even if everything he said is actively a true sentiment that most modern NJPW fans share. NJPW doesn't "check" what their talent say, Kevin Kelly has stated in the past that they do not listen to English commentary at all, period. Additionally, numerous talent, both Japanese and English speaking, have cut numerous anti-AEW promos backstage all year long. Gabe Kidd, David Finlay, EVIL, Great-O-Khan, Yota Tsuji, Yuya Uemura, I could genuinely keep going on. NONE of these people have been punished, nor did any of their words get approved or not, because we know from the past that NJPW simply doesn't do this. This has lead to tons of moments where wrestlers talk about stuff that will objectively never happen and objectively are at odds with what the company wants. For instance, at least 4 different wrestlers 2 years past talked about their anger at the unification of the Heavyweight and Intercontinental titles and their plans to de-unify them, this was well after the current World Heavyweight was created; companies aren't okaying their staff to go out there and shit-talk a belt they are trying to establish during an incredibly challenging time economically. It is extremely obvious to anyone who watch NJPW regularly, which dirt sheet writers like SRS absolutely do not do, that Tony Khan, on the one night a year he decides to pay attention to this company he is sucking the life from, got mad at a work that has been going on the literal entire duration of the partnership, and is using his pressure, likely indirectly through a middle man such as Rocky Romero, to get Bushiroad to punish Charlton. A crybaby, born-into-wealth millionaire is depriving a working class man of his job. Defending this is actively defending scum.
@damadpsientist
@damadpsientist 16 күн бұрын
You wrote all of that claiming to watch njpw not knowing how bushiroad operates. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about point blank period. If you think tony khan can tell bushiroad what to do you have lost your damn mind
@alfiewillis4893
@alfiewillis4893 12 күн бұрын
It was incredibly obvious he was working wrt to the Gabe Kidd angle and Tiny Con's fragile ego was shattered by it.
@mattriddet227
@mattriddet227 16 күн бұрын
Was it not said that Smackdown would be going back to 2 hours after maina?
@TheMTwinny
@TheMTwinny 16 күн бұрын
Noticed they swiftly moved on from the Royal Rumble in Saudi story. 😅
@uncensoredreality
@uncensoredreality 16 күн бұрын
The one time you’ll ever see so many WWE stans actually care about anything happening in NJPW…
@deralfenderson
@deralfenderson 16 күн бұрын
FREE CHRIS CHARLTON. That commentary was HILARIOUS. And now things will suffer for two months. Just shooting themselves in the foot. Walker is great, but he doesn’t have the knowledge or ability to translate on the fly like Chris.
@bjthedeejay6641
@bjthedeejay6641 16 күн бұрын
Walker sucks
@jaysonderrickson9540
@jaysonderrickson9540 16 күн бұрын
Well all things considered, he deserved to get suspended. Within the guidelines with majority, you can't do what he did in the way he did it. I knew once Rocky came out, NJPW was pissed.
@norwaypete
@norwaypete 16 күн бұрын
I wonder if smackdown became 3 hours because the network asked for it cuz they didnt have anything after it.
@Franic19
@Franic19 16 күн бұрын
Completely unrelated to anything in the video, but was anyone else from EU able to watch RAW on Netflix at all? I stayed up to 2:30am to try and watch and RAW was nowhere to be found on Netflix. Then watch the Post-Show on KZbin and them telling people could watch globally, which I pressume is not the case if I wasn't able to. You can't call it being globally available when it isn't. So I'm just wondering if anyone else had the same problem.
@Franic19
@Franic19 16 күн бұрын
@@mahrkoudings3502 Makes sense. I'm from Germany too, so I thought this was a sorted out deal already that it still would be available but now that you mention it, it makes sense why it wasn't. Was getting pissed because it seemed like region blocking to me at first for something that shouldn't be, because, well, global audiences and all that. But good to hear that I'm not crazy XD
@mahrkoudings3502
@mahrkoudings3502 16 күн бұрын
@Franic19 I just checked it out, unfortunately, we will probably have to wait for RAW on Netflix for quite some time 😔 The contracts with BILD+ (for live streaming) and ProSieben (for delayed TV showings) apparently are active until 2028...
@dano_the_collector8421
@dano_the_collector8421 16 күн бұрын
Will it be 50 entrants for both
@pudd66
@pudd66 16 күн бұрын
Tell me where he lied?
@elite_artist351
@elite_artist351 16 күн бұрын
He didn’t, but I can see why NJPW wouldn’t want Tony and AEW mad at them. But no, there was no lie told
@SirAsdf
@SirAsdf 16 күн бұрын
The problem isn't about him spreading lies, it's about him openly defaming NJPW's biggest international business partner.
@AaronCrawford09
@AaronCrawford09 16 күн бұрын
Tell me what company lets you risk fumbling a lucrative business deal with tens of millions.
@jamespaul6315
@jamespaul6315 16 күн бұрын
@@AaronCrawford09lol aew sucks and this is funny to see them keep messing up Cant even blame Punk any more can they
@dano_the_collector8421
@dano_the_collector8421 16 күн бұрын
I just want to see more undercard matches
@galacticbreakdown2804
@galacticbreakdown2804 16 күн бұрын
Charlton was playing a heel, i'm convinced. he was just rage baiting Twitter
@Nitemerican
@Nitemerican 16 күн бұрын
I mean he’s right 🤷🏻‍♂️
@armnhc84
@armnhc84 16 күн бұрын
Tony Khan is soft.
@alcheman12
@alcheman12 16 күн бұрын
Soft is a major understatement
@PhysiqueFuel
@PhysiqueFuel 16 күн бұрын
Could the suspension be a work?
@kryceksangel
@kryceksangel 16 күн бұрын
No.
@JohnnyInJapan
@JohnnyInJapan 16 күн бұрын
The difference is Gabe Kidd actually has talent and he's working people. Chris Charleton is the mark.
@kyled6168
@kyled6168 16 күн бұрын
WWE should sign Chris Charlton.
@AaronCrawford09
@AaronCrawford09 16 күн бұрын
Nah, I get it, man. I feel bad for Chris Charlton cause he worked himself into a shoot, but given that these companies have a professional working relationship and AEW co-promotes multiple shows with NJPW every year, dude made the types of mistakes that costs companies money and influence. I figured Romero all of a sudden joining commentary was related to dude going overboard and figured it was going left when he and Rocky started debating and Rocky wasn't playing the part; everything about Rocky's talking to Chris felt like "Dude, calm the hell down." lol It sucks, man, because Chris's real-time translation is really important to my enjoyment of the product, man. Also, sidenote: seeing people in the comments accusing TK of being behind it despite Tom and Ross clearly saying Bushiroad's CEO made the call during the show seriously makes me worry about some of y'all and your weird parasocial relationship to the companies, man. Some of you make the wrestling community look like basement-dwelling, fedora-wearing neckbeards, man.
@tonchigaming7238
@tonchigaming7238 16 күн бұрын
The iwc has already become a place of hateful and insufferable people.
@Zero-420
@Zero-420 16 күн бұрын
Let’s be honest, is Chris even wrong in what he was saying? Personally I don’t think so.
@BlackWind-rx5il
@BlackWind-rx5il 16 күн бұрын
That's not the point
@alan0285
@alan0285 16 күн бұрын
You are a mark. 😂😂😂
@Zero-420
@Zero-420 16 күн бұрын
@ Okay, but he’s not though is he? 😂🤷🏻 Like i’m not saying I don’t get why they suspended him. Obviously they were in the right. But Chris wasn’t telling any lies lmao.
@Zero-420
@Zero-420 16 күн бұрын
@@alan0285 Oh no whatever will I do, some random called me a mark 😂🤡
@Zero-420
@Zero-420 16 күн бұрын
@@alan0285 Oh no! Some random online called me a mark! Whatever will I do?!?! 😂🤡 fuck outta here lmao
@mroxyclean2641
@mroxyclean2641 16 күн бұрын
He didn’t lie about Tony khan
@mutedmayday
@mutedmayday 16 күн бұрын
I would think it's a different beast if you're working for a Japanese company and you go off script and talk bad about a partner.
@Noisy_Army_YT
@Noisy_Army_YT 16 күн бұрын
I cant wait for the womens rumble its gonna look so funny and whoever does the long rumble is gonna be a sweaty person in thise full body suits
@dano_the_collector8421
@dano_the_collector8421 16 күн бұрын
Once his contract is up he should go to NOAH
@MrBeardsley
@MrBeardsley 16 күн бұрын
Smart move putting Smackdown back to two hours. I’m fine with a three-hour show as long as it’s paced well, but with Raw having the flexibility to feature everything it needs to each week I think it’s a good idea to make Smackdown a tighter show with a leaner roster.
@TheWintersoldier84
@TheWintersoldier84 16 күн бұрын
So only Gabe Kidd can talk sh*t on TK and AEW??
@Artificial_Arpit
@Artificial_Arpit 16 күн бұрын
Yes
@BlackWind-rx5il
@BlackWind-rx5il 16 күн бұрын
There's a big difference. Whether he means it or not, Gabe Kidd can easily say he's in character. Especially because his character is the unhinged crazy man and he was feuding with the guy from the other company. He can play that card and they can tell him "fine but tone It down". Usually the commentators in Japan are not that hostile to other companies, so that's a little harder to believe for Chris. Especially because he's usually not that animated. He's passionate, but he was clearly out of line compared to his usual style. It felt personal, many times.
@TheWintersoldier84
@TheWintersoldier84 16 күн бұрын
@@BlackWind-rx5il by the same token can’t Chris Charlton simply say he was in character playing a pro NJPW commentator working his angle??
@rodericklittle9324
@rodericklittle9324 16 күн бұрын
THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE $$$
@BlackWind-rx5il
@BlackWind-rx5il 16 күн бұрын
​@@TheWintersoldier84 I'm not saying he couldn't, but it is different. Gabe Kidd and Chris Charlton have two different roles. Gabe is a heel wrestler with the crazy man unhinged character, Chris is a babyface commentator who's usually very respectful of the wrestlers and wrestling in general. The only times he gets that hostile on comment is with the House Of Torture stuff. So he could say it, but they would likely not believe it. Also, commentators are the voice of the show, and Wrestle Dynasty was a co-promoted show by NJPW AND AEW. If his comments and that line of commentary wasn't cleared and AEW wasn't aware, he still went into business for himself even if he was truly only try to work an angle and this could have consequences. If that is what he says to defend himself, they can accept it and give him the benefit of the doubt, but that by itself doesn't mean he shouldn't be punished in some form, because he still didn't ask for permission and he probably made people angry by doing it which is a problem for NJPW.
@VoodooSilk
@VoodooSilk 16 күн бұрын
Chris Charlton said nothing wrong.
@marvilust
@marvilust 16 күн бұрын
Whether you agree or not is insignificant. You can’t shit on partners. This is the one thing that annoys me with wrestlers and people in the industry. Calling fans marks only pushes people away.
@HiHello-Opd
@HiHello-Opd 16 күн бұрын
I thought those comments were great. He's a passionate commentator and he helps the events
@MarkieDood
@MarkieDood 16 күн бұрын
This is dumb. NJPW talent make "anti-AEW" comments all the time (and not just when they're building storylines opposite AEW talent). Why's it okay for, for example, Yota Tsuji to do it, but not Chris Charlton?
@Lastrit_JME
@Lastrit_JME 16 күн бұрын
Yota Tsuji isn't literally paid to be a voice of the company
@Shaun_3114
@Shaun_3114 16 күн бұрын
How dare Chris Charleton (a babyface commentator) choose the company he works for in a match that was NJPW vs AEW. TK taking offence by this is petty and won't help his reputation.
@Avenrise
@Avenrise 16 күн бұрын
You obviously missed the part of the video where it was said the suspension had nothing to do with AEW and Khan...
@alan0285
@alan0285 16 күн бұрын
It won't help your reputation as a mark either. 😂😂😂😂
@Shaun_3114
@Shaun_3114 16 күн бұрын
@@Avenrise Ik. You missed the part where I said taking offence was petty. I never said TK had anything to do with it.
@Loner_Kun
@Loner_Kun 16 күн бұрын
@@Avenrise thats what they say you. you've personally made sure that wasnt the case?
@Avenrise
@Avenrise 16 күн бұрын
@@Loner_Kun When you make an accusation it's down to you to prove it rather than someone else to disprove it. It's called burden of proof, well worth looking into if you're not familiar.
@loriparker666
@loriparker666 16 күн бұрын
Why does Tony Khan get butt hurt so easily 🤦🏻‍♂️
@iainmooney8610
@iainmooney8610 16 күн бұрын
Did you not watch the video? Clearly states it was a NJ decision and AEW/TK had nothing to do with it.
@Avenrise
@Avenrise 16 күн бұрын
WWE wheeling out racists and Trump supporters, selling out their women's roaster and LGBT+ members for money, plastering their arenas and mats in sponsorship logos, pushing retired wrestlers to come back and win belts and everyone clapping along as stale storylines and average wrestling become the norm... I'm just done. I'll never say I won't come back but for now it's obvious this isn't a company I want to support.
@Untiligetfree
@Untiligetfree 16 күн бұрын
See ya . Keep up pretending to be morally superior to everyone . Hope it brings you lots of joy .
@tronzilla1xboxhater850
@tronzilla1xboxhater850 16 күн бұрын
Ahh boo hoo
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 15 күн бұрын
Uhh do you think ppl with different politics are somehow bad ?
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 15 күн бұрын
Well at the end of the day you won't be missed as you have a very toxic mentality.
@Avenrise
@Avenrise 15 күн бұрын
@@deathmauler181 'Different' no. Trumpian politics yes, it is so far from my own personal morals that my view of those that actively supported it or voted that way have been tarnished permanently.
@jacobfigueroa7817
@jacobfigueroa7817 16 күн бұрын
Chris Charlton getting suspended for obviously doing commentary in kayefabe is dumb as all hell.
@kryceksangel
@kryceksangel 16 күн бұрын
He obviously didn't get permission You don't know Japanese business culture
@pbsimmons2303
@pbsimmons2303 16 күн бұрын
Well let's be honest tony coccine Kahn is a big money mark
@RageyRage82
@RageyRage82 16 күн бұрын
When you're on Netflix, you don't need as many time restraints. It was recreshing to watch the show without commercial interruptions, although the Punk/Rollins match, it had a couple strange cuts. Either way, I really liked the format.
@fatcrewproductions8986
@fatcrewproductions8986 16 күн бұрын
In the US we got about 1 billion commercials. It made the show difficult to watch.
@emmssanchez00
@emmssanchez00 16 күн бұрын
okay cultaholic you AEW apologists try to defend this
@TheBigChuckles
@TheBigChuckles 16 күн бұрын
"Tell me when I'm telling lies" - Chris Charlton
@MikeEdwards-kj4dh
@MikeEdwards-kj4dh 16 күн бұрын
Aew is garbage why would you suspend anyone
@alcheman12
@alcheman12 16 күн бұрын
Tony crying in the corner demanding that man be punished
@JAYREKLESS
@JAYREKLESS 16 күн бұрын
Chris told no lies....😂
@715cool
@715cool 16 күн бұрын
Tony got scared! 😂 Didnt want another Punk situation 😂😂😂
@czynx3196
@czynx3196 16 күн бұрын
TK is so fragile
@kryceksangel
@kryceksangel 16 күн бұрын
You don't do what Chris did in Japan
@CallMeLionheart
@CallMeLionheart 16 күн бұрын
What no one is bringing up (conveniently) is that Charlton apologised for his comments after the main event. If TK is that soft that a comment which, let's be honest isn't untrue, upsets him, then tough. Grow up. Grow a set.
@scottspencer5242
@scottspencer5242 16 күн бұрын
I gotta applaud Chris for refusing to bite his tongue. Tony is effectively doing in the present exactly what he blasted WWF/E for doing in the past. Though... to much, much worse results.
@ChrisTomson
@ChrisTomson 16 күн бұрын
If WWE did what AEW is doing (planting one of their producers in a business partner’s production team, stealing most of their out-of-contract talent), fans would be singing a much different tune
@alan0285
@alan0285 16 күн бұрын
It's a work, mark.
@ebmax55
@ebmax55 16 күн бұрын
@@ChrisTomsonlol… that’s a joke right? You do know that WWE has put countless companies out of business, right?
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 15 күн бұрын
​@@ChrisTomsonyuuuu0
@jasonpepe7617
@jasonpepe7617 16 күн бұрын
Tony Kahn eats cottage cheese and likes it
@FoxInferno13
@FoxInferno13 16 күн бұрын
Welp, time to buy a new copy of Eggshells 😤😤😤
@MALXCHI
@MALXCHI 16 күн бұрын
Bro got suspended for spitting facts 😭😭
@alan0285
@alan0285 16 күн бұрын
The only fact is that you are a mark. 😂😂😂
@MALXCHI
@MALXCHI 16 күн бұрын
@@alan0285 touch grass
@dmercy8477
@dmercy8477 16 күн бұрын
Khan is a sensitive man. I’m not surprised that Charton got suspended but he wasn’t lying in some of his points.
@N0Name0K
@N0Name0K 16 күн бұрын
Promoting casual Islamophobia I see lads, I shouldn't be as surprised as I am considering the state of wrestling KZbin.
@23lacross
@23lacross 16 күн бұрын
Are you talking about the Wendy Choo IG post?
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 16 күн бұрын
We're just trying to save the goats from them, relax.
@TVChipss
@TVChipss 16 күн бұрын
when did Pacitti begin working at NJPW?
@faceSSScase3
@faceSSScase3 16 күн бұрын
No imput? Sure sure
@diabeticman2194
@diabeticman2194 16 күн бұрын
I laughed when Carlton called TK a money mark, those words felt pointed. Give me Charlton and Shivone on commentary for this year’s FD, the barbs will be fantastic in a Booker T/Vic Joseph kind of way! I thought the first Raw on Netflix was fine, it felt like a Legends show from the old regime but done slightly better
@bjthedeejay6641
@bjthedeejay6641 16 күн бұрын
4 matches in 3 hours is fine??????????????
@TheGreatKingChiba
@TheGreatKingChiba 16 күн бұрын
Nobody gonna squeel "cancel culture cancel culture" here? By usual yapper standards this qualifies because he was suspended for telling the truth. Tony is, by definition, a money mark.
@InuJus10
@InuJus10 16 күн бұрын
If Tony Khan was offended by the commentary, he should've promoted the show.
@jasmith85
@jasmith85 16 күн бұрын
Pathetic suspension. The man loves his job and loves the promotion he works and tries to build a storyline but gets suspended.
@ChrisTomson
@ChrisTomson 16 күн бұрын
Chris Charlton wasn’t wrong. Unprofessional? Yeah, probably. But not wrong
@BlackWind-rx5il
@BlackWind-rx5il 16 күн бұрын
Yeah, but he works for NJPW. When you work for somebody, unprofessionality is usually a problem.
@elite_artist351
@elite_artist351 16 күн бұрын
Oh lord, so basically he was suspended for fear of hurting fragile Tony. TK is a joke, and as long as this continues to happen and people rush to his defense he’ll always be a joke!
@greatwhitehype3706
@greatwhitehype3706 16 күн бұрын
So he got suspended for telling the truth then..
@artminusme
@artminusme 16 күн бұрын
This is the softest suspension of all time… Grow up lads (AEW/NJPW)…. Feds kicking both your asses and I hate the fed.
@CptRedBeard117
@CptRedBeard117 16 күн бұрын
Tell charlton when he's telling lies
@Plibige
@Plibige 16 күн бұрын
Literally the softest man alive that money mark 😂
@FreshNews247
@FreshNews247 16 күн бұрын
Tony is worse than Vince Mcmahon at this point.
@deathmauler181
@deathmauler181 15 күн бұрын
Shh don't say that
@KhorgosKhul
@KhorgosKhul 15 күн бұрын
Nah....
@ianmurphy9955
@ianmurphy9955 16 күн бұрын
Charlton is correct though, AEW is trash
@mjdf122
@mjdf122 16 күн бұрын
The usual with AEW and their fans you can’t say anything unless it’s beneficial or in their favor and there’s not much say AAA AJPW CMLL MLW NJPW NOAH NWA TNA and WWE are the promotions to watch
@andysadler6432
@andysadler6432 16 күн бұрын
joke of a decision. i watched it live and hes right the G1 is much tougher than C1. he is RIGHT
@Nacho_Fan_Sandy_Ravage
@Nacho_Fan_Sandy_Ravage 16 күн бұрын
TK: "Life sucks...and then you DIE!"
@48jhj
@48jhj 16 күн бұрын
i mean it isn't a lie.
@Bama20512
@Bama20512 16 күн бұрын
He told the truth though
@marvelsProtege
@marvelsProtege 16 күн бұрын
Tony is a real crybaby
@MrXXpainkillerXX
@MrXXpainkillerXX 15 күн бұрын
Tony Khan IS a money mark
@madbrowniac7871
@madbrowniac7871 16 күн бұрын
The very existence of AEW since at least the horrendously fumbled "Adam Cole is The Devil" Storyline IS an anti AEW Promo. I will give them credit for this surge of creativity though. A guy named ADAM (in Kayfabe anyway) turns out to be "The Devil"...😂😉🎤🐍🍎😈🤼‍♂️B.W.
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