Suicide, The Unheard Cry (United States. Department of the Army, 1968)

[@lindsaynash3653]

For anyone currently going through the horrors of PTSD, depression etc, please know you aren’t alone and there is help.

[@barneyronnie]

Sure. Lots of useless pills and 5 minute shrink visits. Scams ...

[@dingytv538]

And drugs

[@northstar92]

The remedy is worse than the illness in too many cases. Hope you're doing well.

[@Indy44636]

It's okay to take medication, but becareful achohol and medicine addictions have been well documented .

[@bomberfox5232]

I've personally had family that attempted suicide and you know what saved them? Listening to them and answering that call for help, their cry didnt go unheard.

[@enitachipoyi1377]

“Snap out of it, shape up, man up, deal with it” how did we ever live with these words

[@tiffanye9403]

Our population shorten for more us

[@In_Case_Im_Fake]

those words work.

[@elnoob78h19]

It worked for me

[@redTrickster]

​@@elnoob78h19 same here

[@john-brady]

Many couldn’t

[@TheKrispyfort]

1968, and we are still acting as though these are groundbreaking discoveries in 2023 😢

[@AnnemieM]

Another excelled Film, thank you so much. Nothing has changed though. Suicide is still an unheard cry.

[@jpdude7274]

As a man with PTSD ADD Major Depression I’m thankful for the progress of modern medicine and science

[@Scorch1028]

In "today's U.S. military" (regardless of branch) this new trainee would have been identified and ASMO'd within a few weeks of basic training. Back in 1968, there was still this idea that a "swift kick" could straighten out the recruit. What's really "scary" is that the number of 17 to 25-year-olds in the U.S. who are "unfit to serve" (for whatever reason) has "increased exponentially" since 1968. The various branches of the DoD have been gradually lowering their performance standards for recruits over the last 10+ years -- to be able to meet their recruiting and retention goals.

[@poetcomic1]

Peeking in the Vietnam War with ''McNamara's Morons' the most jaw dropping and heart breaking idiocy of that war. Look it up on Google.

[@YaYa-lz1zt]

That lowering of standards was in GWB’s administration, thank you Cheney and Rumsfeld.

[@williamrosenbloom215]

What does it mean for someone to be ASMO'd?

[@gerchop9304]

@@williamrosenbloom215 it means you get placed in a division in boot camp that has less time in than yours, a newer one, thereby you extend and repeat bootcamp so you can get your sh-t together 👍

[@K-Riz314]

@@williamrosenbloom215 Assignment Memorandum, the previous comment of what it entails is spot on.

[@sitruchtims9392]

This film from 1968 does more to speak of the taboo of depression and suicide than anything i've seen a modern government put out.

[@PlanetASE]

its direct, and it isn't fearful of criticism of stereotyping or generalizations. Even though its nearly 6 decades old, its actually a breathe of fresh air.

[@NadrianATRS]

Man, I feel so sorry for this guy. There's real people like that all around us. I'm just the type of person when I see someone having a hard time and they're alone, I go up and talk to them.

[@knightman7203]

Thank you I'm one of them

[@sexobscura]

I'm 'one of them', too

[@EddieLeal]

That's mighty kind of you sir. I only wish there were more people like you in society. I think most of us have all been on both sides of this issue. Yours truly included. Never been the academic type. Just barely made it through school. Army basic training was no different. I didn't struggle to bad but I did have my days were our drill sgt paid special attention to me after having made a mistake. Important thing is to learn from the mistake. In combat any mistake can get you/fellow soldiers killed. So they drill it home in the hopes you will make it back home if and when you are sent to war. The military is not geared to coddle anyone. As it should be. You either get it/learn from your mistakes or you dont. In which case, if they can't train you, they will show you the door.

[@lanlan3806]

Wtf this is super accurate till this day ... I've witnessed all these scenarios in the army

[@sleezer7]

I thought he boutta end it all with the gernade

[@zenab92]

Insomnia, loss of appetite,complaints of illness +suicidal threat

[@sgtcrabfat]

It happens too often, we fell for the myth, "if they try it or talk about it, the will not do it again, "I was wrong, and now my daughter is a widow and my Grandson with out his Father.

[@ravenrisby]

When I was a cadet I saw death even then by suicide also my dad did it too it’s real and hurts

[@ravenrisby]

I have c p s d it’s horrible I feel for any one else in my shoes

[@barneyronnie]

In 1967, Vietnam helped me to man up and survive 😮

[@bomberfox5232]

@@barneyronnie oh look survivorship bias....

[@shellydrelly]

@@barneyronnie wtf is that even supposed to mean....I wonder how many other soldiers who served that same year with ended up taking their own lives?

[@briankeller788]

Owens reminds me of "Private Pyle" in the film "Full Metal Jacket".

[@antpoo]

I was thinking exact same. I reckon Kubrick had seen this presentation and inspired parts of the movie.

[@alanpengo3335]

Men have to talk with each other,more men than women because women can talk with each other over a cup of tea and have a cry and a cuddle,men are supposed to be hard and it's seen as a weakness to talk but we men need to show our emotions. If any man needs to talk I'm here. All lives matter ❤❤

[@noongourfain]

You have women all wrong. Women are so vicious to each other......no pretending.

[@martinrhoads6168]

Served 3 yrs in the mari e corps during the late 60's and early 70's. Big part in Asia. Saw no combat, but thought I won't make it out alive. Was 19yrs. I came out a different person. If I had been in a combat zone, I would have certainly changed even more. The point I am trying to make is you can change so much that you feel far removed from the person you once were. And I don't mean in a good way. You don't feel in anyway part of the family you once had. That isolation and change of personality can be overwhelming. No wonder suicide in the military is twice as high vs the rest of society. We should only allow men/women who go into combat to be 30 yrs or older!

[@Svabre]

Its funny how this 1968 US Army film got suicide better that modern day national and especially private education institutions (German and Lithuanian Ive experienced firsthand). P.S. the psychosis you get after ODing on painkillers is absolutely mental and I cannot describe how weird it feels (dont ask how I know this, should be obvious).

[@barneyronnie]

That's ridiculous. Opiate overdoses don't cause psychosis 😅

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

​@@barneyronniepainkillers like paracetamol are lethal .....it's the first question a paramedic will ask if you take an overdose because paracetamol is so dangerous ......

[@SwingingCreeper]

@@barneyronnieso you’re a doctor?

[@barneyronnie]

@@SwingingCreeper retired

[@MultiXtrailer]

This should be mandatory at work.... especially I. 2021

[@ronnetteharvey2002]

Strange how there is always a bully in the mix.

[@madabusiv]

Private Hal Whitney

[@viagra5207]

i bet you are white arent you

[@joe18425]

Sad how he just leaves him to go and wake the commander

[@enitachipoyi1377]

I thought his most serious mistake was to drink and drive

[@jennodine]

I wonder how many of these people were actually murdered and set up to look like suicide.

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

My unit had two suicides by gunshot in Bosnia 1996 ..both got dear john letters from their partners / wifes...no cell,phones back then .....

[@johnstuartsmith]

In real life basic training, It was standard procedure to quickly single out some poor schmuck as "the guy everybody else doesn't want to be". For trainees to absorb the concept of a whole team being damaged by the weakest member, a poor performance by Owens would result in actions like Owens being forced to stand and suck his thumb watching the rest of his company do extra pushups in the gravel. The idea wasn't to encourage his peers to help Owens, it would be to have the rest of the company fear and hate screwups. If that had brought out a little extra motivation in guys like Owens, fine, but the idea was to motivate others to foster a general fear of substandard performance. The military tries to keep casualties to a minimum, but accepts their inevitability. If a few scapegoats like Owens got used too hard and pushed over the edge, it was acceptable, as long as their misery was put to good use.

[@blair..]

isnt this literally just the plot to full metal jacket

[@stuartdurham7247]

@@blair.. EXACTLY what I was thinking! "PYLE! WHAT'S YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION!?"

[@KantiKane]

31:50 no wonder the guy's suicidal. he gets told to clean pots and pans that are fucking brand new. military assholes probably running white gloves up the pot and lying about it being clean enough. that poor guy.

[@scatdog1]

Those military assholes are responsible for your ability and freedom to speak like the entitled little asshole that you are.

[@SkunkApeMeg]

These stories are so sad

[@theenclave4981]

Early Army suicide awareness training. Go figure the military has a 40% rate of depression and alcoholism.

[@joyceyagoda4207]

I thought his most serious mistake was driving while intoxicated!

[@johncitizen3927]

A permanent solution, to a temporary problem...

[@brianmeen2158]

Clinical depression isn’t a temporary problem

[@finncullen]

So all the more need to present alternative solutions. That little cliche shouldn't be used as a synonym for "Just don't kill yourself, dummy," - if it was that easy nobody would.

[@stephenseton9521]

It goes on forever. In my ti me it,s Vietnam and the aftermath is homelessness suicide and the just goes on and on.

[@rockforest3109]

We defeated the wrong enemy - Patton

[@prevost8686]

Patton was right and he paid for it with his life.

[@bomberfox5232]

@@prevost8686 considering Patton was referring to the nazis, was a delusional man who thought he was a reborn Roman soldier..... Jeebus fuck people who live by quotes are the dumbest people around.

[@bomberfox5232]

Ever consider if the nazis werent stopped they would have done far more damage?..... PR campaigns for braggart generals who know nothing but the battlefield are truly disgusting.

[@jonsprong1842]

Apparently Owens found one thing he was able to do without half-assing it.

[@friscostreetstories5403]

Why they gotta make the woman look cray tho?

[@buchan1965a]

This should be retitled "The Charles Whitman Story"

[@brianag1175]

Seems like little miss has some relational traumas. Maybe even bpd.

[@buckfutter99]

The amount of blue falcons...

[@EddieLeal]

5:42 Well at least the man got it over the wall. Some trainees get so scared/nervous that they either drop the grenade or throw it against the wall. In which case the drill sgt has to act quickly before they both get blown to hell.

[@rapman5791]

You don’t wanna be turned in to the OLD MAN 😳 You go over Top’s head you will regret it

[@northstar92]

Following orders a few seconds too late, leaving room for contemplation of the underappreciated weight of our actions, its just not useful to those who seem to believe its mankind that turns the earth. Having said that, I'd like to add that my above comment seems, even to myself, like the perfectly opposite direction of whatever works for people to quell suicidality.

[@enitachipoyi1377]

“Irresponsible wife”

[@sharonrigs7999]

Dependa

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

sexual harassment, he never should've touched her.

[@JulezWinnfield]

And the award for the worst actress in an Army training film goes to.......the actress portraying Laura Benson. Her overly dramatic acting makes it hard to take this subject matter seriously.

[@zudemaster]

1968? Nothing a quick trip to Vietnam won't cure.

[@jpdude7274]

Dang that sounds just like when I was in the Army

[@PiddyPat420]

Spc Laura Benson is crazy

[@Defender78]

12:29 the SSG Chris Wife is a man-eater... her type has been the ruin of many a military man

[@elpuzzlo6800]

Shoot. I wish my DI’s had been so kind

[@RandyMoore-y4w]

Please just RUN ROY RUN!!

[@thealexfish4480]

41:00 that’ll teach her for telling me to update my resumé

[@madabusiv]

Mr. Owens should not have enlisted in the first place!

[@lovelylovelylauren]

He probably didn’t! This was the 60s babe. They still had the draft👎

[@madabusiv]

@@lovelylovelylauren The draft board should have known about his mental problems before he enlisted

[@lovelylovelylauren]

@@madabusiv not if his symptoms started after he was medically cleared. He may not have had a history of any kind of behavioral, mood or anxiety disorders and had no prior history of self harming either.

[@madabusiv]

@@lovelylovelylauren He developed a mental issue after joining the Army

[@prevost8686]

You make a valid point. Many, many young people have joined the military as some sort of last resort to “fix” issues in their lives and most only bring their problems with them which affects everyone else around them that depend on them to do their job. I can’t speak for all branches of the military but the USMC has greatly increased their screening efforts of potential recruits in order to detect serious mental health issues before they are sent to boot. In the old days a judge would give a troubled young man the choice between jail and the military. All that did was to send trouble makers into the armed forces. The Marines learned some hard lessons from accepting such individuals. If you’ve got a history of drug use and troubles with the police you can forget joining the Marines. Perhaps other branches will accept you. The military is not therapy for troubled people.

[@stanmack6171]

I wanted to see the soap party that the platoon gave to Pvt Phillip G. Owens.

[@johngillespie3409]

shut up stupid

[@Name-ps9fx]

If that had happened...every one of those men will bear some of the responsibility for Pvt Owen’s death. And I would make sure they remembered it.

[@stanmack6171]

@@Name-ps9fx Is that you Owens?

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

It was called a regimental bath in the British army ..the victim was chucked naked into a bath and scrubbed down with yard brooms and Dettol and laundry powder Funnily enough the one who they did it to in my room turned out to rape and murder a young girl in the supermarket where they both worked...a few years after he left the army ....

[@HumanBeanbag]

Cool music

[@happymess3219]

😂 'nobody's going to court marshall hal whitney.' 'hell no.'

[@michaelgilbert3713]

💣 8:09 note 🗒 well SANDY SANDRA KOUFAX BROOKLYN DODGERS 🔝 💣

[@morrisdennis]

Natural selection nvr sleeps

[@lunacatfish]

The contents of this video are still relevant in 2024. And sadly believable. Except the "Laura Benson" story seems unrealistic; she's portrayed as paranoid, hysterical, delusional, and having mental problems at the beginning of her saga, even before her grasp on reality takes a dive when her boyfriend' leaves. It seems doubtful she'd pass a basic background and psych profile for military service. And it's strange that her associates and superiors are depicted allowing her emotional/behavioral problems to go unchecked without intervention to the extreme enacted in the video -- just wondering about it.

[@michaelgilbert3713]

HBO SAID ONE WOMAN 👩 ARMY SMOKE OPEN WINDOW TOPO GIGOT GIG OT TO GIG MOUSE EDDIE KISS 😘 ME 🐀 good 🌃 🔝 😅

[@michaelwestmoreland2530]

I see the scene with the CO and I think "Fuck, I'm never making fun of boomers ever again. "Pull yourself together." Christ we were barbaric."

[@stevenkramer1975]

Laura is a floozie😢

[@zenab92]

If they talk abt it they might just do it. 1st cue

[@tomakafrankconlon3207]

Jesus did they go looking for the worst actors to play the parts.

[@GrandMasterKai]

Still need to man up , thats all it takes :)

[@shellydrelly]

Decades of real life evidence prove that wrong

[@Steve_1999]

27:00 All these melodramatic people, I think they do it on purpose. Sadness/crying has a strange addictiveness to it... at least that's what my human friends tell me.

[@usel7226]

It's not on purpose. The lady possibly suffers from BPD or other personality disorder. Her emotions are over the top, but honest. Trust me, crying like this all the time will very soon make you want to avoid it

[@chacheney]

@@usel7226 I cry often but because I am mourning essentially my entire family almost other than a couple cousins I don't see, and my best friends. They all died or are gone in some way. It is true loneliness having nobody to even reminisce with, and nobody who knows you.

[@chacheney]

@@usel7226 people like you would probably assume I was histrionic merely because of that, though I have seen many doctors and therapists and psychologists and was only ever diagnosed with PTSD/anxiety disorders/moderate to severe depression. You don't know what someone has been through

[@Gentlemanadventurer26]

Laura needs some empty male relationships

[@_HimToo]

Laura's nuts lol

[@rapman5791]

A pretty face don’t make no pretty heart

[@morrisdennis]

Well i think its funny 😂

[@flowerpowerviolence]

8:16

[@flowerpowerviolence]

8:25

[@TheBrokeRecorder]

This was rehearsed

[@mnpd3]

Of course it was. No one was killed in the making of this documentary.

[@ladyjane9980]

All PSA films are rehearsed and use actors.

[@Jsef0801]

Based on actual events and scenarios

[@donny9078]

24:25 just like most women

[@1999convert]

Okay, so, I'm a woman, and even I think that's true.

[@chacheney]

@@1999convert you must be crazy too then

[@jayneadanoff1876]

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[@johngillespie3409]

my cousin David Mcmahon 22ed oct 2010, i tried with a car 2000 but the cops stopped me and i got a dwi instead.

[@swhoosh8305]

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[@swhoosh8305]

64 bits

[@swhoosh8305]

32 bits

[@cookiejesus8412]

@@swhoosh8305 16 bits

[@SOULRELIEF22]

All the people around them needed to know JESUS. They didn't know how to be compassionate. No one suggested with enthusiasm that a Chaplain should be seen. This is OLD, but I read suicide is STILL a problem in the military. Not enough of us know about hell and the lake of fire! There are horrible consequences for taking the life GOD gives us. THE BLOOD OF JESUS SHALL PREVAIL!

[@sylviafrank8302]

JESUS LOVES HIS PEOPLE! To believe in Christ and His finished work on the cross saves you from eternal damnation. And yes, they lacked the solace and fortitude that a personal relationship with the Lord provides. It is God's desire that all be washed in the blood of the Lamb.

[@suzythumb6683]

You're the reason people kill themselves

[@GoGoTomoko]

@@suzythumb6683 lmfao

[@SOULRELIEF22]

@@odenviking Depression was the spirit that gripped me MANY times before JESUS saved me 47 years ago! Alcohol, chain smoking cigarettes, fornication, VERY profane, etc. The LORD has given me JOY unspeakable and full of GLORY! YOU will have to answer to Him for every idle word you speak. Your OWN words will take you to Heaven or send you to hell. "But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." Matthew 12:36-37! WOE because of what you've said ALREADY! REPENT!

[@brookshadlin117]

@@suzythumb6683 Take a look in the mirror.

[@ronijohnson6137]

Terrible acting!

[@SOULRELIEF22]

There is a HELL! Self murder is punishable by judgment to hell! "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy: for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are." 1 Corinthians 3:17! GOD destroys with ETERNAL punishment in the lake of fire and brimstone, the second death! (Revelation 20:8!) Receive JESUS for deliverance from depression and suicidal thoughts! Amen! "Receive ye the Holy Ghost:" John 20:22b! Receive JOY unspeakable and full of GLORY! 1 Peter 1:8! HALLELUJAH! St John 3:16! 💓

[@layna-heyhey]

Yes this is true. So let us love one another as we love ourselves. To see to each other's mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual health. May we pray for each other with honesty, and strength. Lean on the all powerful God the Father.

[@SOULRELIEF22]

Your soul is precious to GOD! Stay ALIVE! This is the time we've been waiting for! JESUS is Returning SOON! ALLELUIA! 🙏🙌👏 RECEIVE JESUS as your LORD and SAVIOUR to have your name secured in His Book of Life! "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15!

[@benjhbe5528]

@@SOULRELIEF22hell is earth we already there

[@mikesebphoto]

31:50 it’s “the rifleman“‘s kid Mark!

[@michaelgilbert3713]

BEGAN 🔜 🔰 my military campaign at EASTERN MILITARY ACADEMY SUMMER CAMP 🏕 😊

[@AnakinAtheist666]

this was made by ZOG, not by americans. SMH.

[@shellydrelly]

What is ZOG?

[@AnakinAtheist666]

@@shellydrelly ZOG-Zionist Occupied Governments.