Psychiatric Procedures in the Combat Area (US Army, 1944)

[@Tess1984]

What angers me the most, is these soldiers were all told that " This will not affect you in Civilian life".... They had no clue that they were being lied to about that😢

[@MarioMastar]

Even as a civilian myself I just seethe with anger that these men were sent to thier deaths to fight a war that frankly had nothing to do with us and how unsympathetic the people behind the mikes who clearly never served (just funded these wars) sound when they talk about "Oh you almost got blown up? Just shake it off and get back to the battle field" Most of those men must be thinking "Why...are we even fighting like this? Are we really defending America or is something else more important?" National defense is important and I have the highest respect for veterans and soldiers as I work wtih them every day for the past 10 years. Very nice people. But what I have NO respect for are the beurocrats at the top thinking our lives are just chess pieces and we're supposed to just "accept that". That psychiatrist's tone of voice was so cynical, I half expected him to say "Well you were just scared, shake it off and get back to the field. Sucks to be you, I don't have to go out there, as it's YOUR duty and you should be ashamed for coming to me crying like that." Zero sympathy.... Absolutely disgusting.

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@BiffTannen1983]

The psychologist asked him "Are you afraid? What in particular is it that you're afraid of?" The soldier responded with "No". In reality, the answer is "YES"! Every healthy minded human/animal should fear that! They've been brainwashed to the point where they think that human nature is something to be ashamed of. 😩. That's what governments do. They brainwash people. It took me about 35 years, but I eventually caught on.

[@mariaeugeniabasualdo2208]

I thought the same but then there are two possibilities here. 1- they were openly lying by saying that their lives were going to be normal as if nothing ever happened or 2- there was not enough knowledge about the consequences of their traumatic experiences. We have to realize that back then what we know today as PTSD was known as shellshock or as it is mentioned here "hysteria episodes". There has been a lot of advances in the psychiatric field and a lot of improvement in drugs to treat several mental illnesses.

[@Tess1984]

@@mariaeugeniabasualdo2208 They were plenty advanced with Agent Orange ! Along with all of the required so-called vaccines. They used our soldiers as guinea pigs !! I've watched several old documentaries on this. Absolutely sickening 🤬

[@liisabjork76]

My brother's that I mourn for their mental health. It is the effect of war. Thank you brothers for your service and bravery . You are heroic, you have endured the worst that life can offer you. I pray for all my brothers and sisters. US Navy Veteran disabled gulf war veteran

[@mnpd3]

The Army's interest of course was doing what needed to be done to keep the guys in the fight. The emphasis was not on the welfare of the soldier, but making sure he was able to continue fighting. Hell of a way to run a business, but war is hell.

[@GREENMAYNE]

Unfathomable “how’d you feel after leaving your buddies (who were blown to bits in front of you)” dr is terrible - he should get sent to the stockades

[@andrewhill4986]

@@GREENMAYNE different times, different Ethos…

[@Slithey7433]

Perhaps those shrinks should’ve been sent to the front for a couple days weeks to acquire an appreciation of the stress those men were enduring.

[@MarioMastar]

Honestly I wouldn't be too surprised if half the soldiers started to think thier own commanders were the real nazis. Russia saw a bit of that recently in Ukraine when soldiers turned thier guns against thier own generals upon realizing they're losing thier lives just so some rich men at home could brag. There's no excuse for it. I don't care how many stars or sripes a man has stitched on his shoulder, Disrespect makes him just as much the enemy as the people across the map. Something it took the US too long to realize.

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

I have Combat PTSD from service in Sarajevo Bosnia and Kosovo, I'm British and the "care" we get here is terrible , its mostly left to charities like Combat Stress , Help for Heroes etc ,that pick us up but they are stretched to the limit after years and years of war ..... Boris Johnson our Prime minister at the time withdrew funding from Combat Stress forcing it to close one of its treatment centres losing 30 beds ...an ex patient camped outside on hunger strike in protest but nothing was done and he nearly died ....... He also refused to meet or even talk to the Veterans Minister Johnny Mercer an ex Royal Marine offficer or even to answer his calls , so Mr Mercer resigned . This is what we are up against when already mental health is a stigma ....

[@noisepuppet]

Good Lord. And it had to be Boris Johnson. I wrote some words about the hypocrisy of it, but I can't find adequate language. They dealt you a shit hand.

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

@@noisepuppet our government literally doesn't give a shit about us veterans , same as Biden ....checking his watch every two minutes whilst the 13 coffins of the 13 marines he killed passes by .......we are just dirt to those people . Look at what Trudeau told his Canadian veterans......" You ask for what we can't give ".basically saying ....go away you peasant and don't bother me again .

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@sebastianliwinski222]

Cutting down funds for veterans and at the same time promoting diversity and accepting illegal immigrants coming in by boats.

[@miloandalfie5509]

@Humpty. I'm a big supporter of Combat Stress and I'm sad to be reading about your experiences in the military and afterwards in civi-street. Boris Johnson was the most disgusting, debased Prime Minister we ever had in UK and should never have been in power. 250,000 lives lost in 18 months and he was getting pissed-up and self-indulging in the extreme. I've found some support in the community through mental health arts charities. Just painting, making music and felting animals. I hope you can find the same. I was a sceptic and never artistic, but it's saved my shred of sanity. All the very best to you.

[@jjkemper3367]

Soldier: I can't stand constantly seeing dead people Psychiatrist: Why? Dead people can't hurt you. Heck of therapy lol

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@feralbluee]

Yeah, that was really quite astounding! Well, I love telling you, mr. Psychiatrist person, that seeing your dead friends can hurt you ! As can “imaginary” bombs!!! Jeez!!!! 😵‍💫🫣😳🙄

[@temureviewer33]

L 😅pool⁰​@@feralbluee

[@Z_BoyPanduh]

Doctor telling patient he has PTSD-“this is a reaction we get from men who see too much combat it isn’t really serious it won’t affect you in your civilian life and you should be good in about 3 days.” How little they knew....

[@johnstuartsmith]

In Vietnam, PTSD wasn't allowed to "officially exist". Psychiatric casualties were attributed to "bad character, drug use, bad attitude" etc. Basically someone would give a mentally broken soldier a direct order to stop acting broken and charge him with disobeying a direct order if he didn't. The Pentagon decided that limiting tours to 12 months would eliminate combat fatigue, so PTSD in theater wasn't an allowable diagnosis.

[@cullinforeman730]

called him ret*rded too

[@serenity3489]

@@johnstuartsmith yeah, they don't want to have to pay those soldiers any benefits related to their PTSD. These people give their lives for you, but are treated like shit when they come home 🏠🏡. They should be FIRST IN LINE TO GET EVERYTHING THEY. .... FROM MEDICAL TO HOUSING TO FOOD TO JOBS TO ANY AND EVERY THONG ELSE THEY NEED,!!!!

[@tlmoscow]

Yet, I’ve talked to WW2 vets who took just that approach. The war was terrible, they lost friends, but they were lucky to survive and looked forward to a good life. The power of positive thinking is real, and truly therapeutic.

[@bobbystclaire]

true the thing is however what would be the point of telling him you're going to be sick the rest of your life you're going to have to live with it

[@Lechiffre100]

its a shame so many where pushed beyond their limits even though being in combat for a year... heroes deserve better

[@johnstuartsmith]

They weren't in combat for a year. They were in combat until whenever the war was going to end.

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@Steve_1999]

I binge watch these types of films late at night... Crazy eh?

[@suzannegaglie6146]

It’s 3:30am here. You’re not alone 😊

[@smadaf]

These poor guys. They gave a lot in one of the efforts that have made my life as good as it is.

[@janbadinski7126]

❤😢Shaking on the inside is a symptom of emotional exhaustion. It sounds weird but you feel like you're shaking but it doesn't show up where other people can see. That feeling is common in PTSD. They went through hell. I hope these soldiers were able to find the peace they so dearly deserved.

[@dotell3359]

Boy!!!! That is so true. I know because I served in Vietnam. I didn't know what was wrong with me when I got out of the service so I went to my family doctor and he put me on medication and I was walking around like a zombie. This was before the V.A was taken care of us. 7:05

[@robertschlitters5764]

Absolutely right.

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@stevenconnell3206]

Statement is True..

[@wmd40]

the way the doctor says "dead people can't hurt you" is one of the most disturbing things I've ever heard. how out of touch are these "professionals"? nothing has improved either. they still treat us with PTSD the same way

[@docautrisim885]

They’re ignorant but they learned and are still learning. Mental health wasn’t nearly as well understood and was only beginning to be acknowledged at that time, especially compared to now.

[@RyanWilson-qy7kb]

@@docautrisim885 It's just as worthless now. Gender reassignment is the lobotomy of our time.

[@Playsinvain]

That guy at 6:00, hardened veteran, wounded twice… breaks down and back at it.

[@bubba4088]

Let all the elites be put on the front line!

[@Playsinvain]

Read “Catch 22”

[@serenity3489]

At 36:40... Bless his heart 💖

[@feralbluee]

it is very good that by WWII, the army people finally realized, these men were ill and that they needed help. the treatment they received was much better than in WWI. also, i’m glad to see they realized some men were really mentally ill 13:17 and needed more than rest and rehabilitation. in WWI, it was called Shell Shock, but men were “cured” and quickly returned to combat! Before then, men who broke down were called cowards and deserters and put up before a firing squad. it was one of the worst things a soldier could do - be afraid and disturbed! so, so glad things have changed for the better. 🌷 Still, we have wars. 🥀

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@matthiasmajoris4029]

@11:25 I feel so much for this kid, sounded like his name was "Bergeron". He is clearly very traumatized and in total terror. My only hope is his life got better when he got home, but I have a hard time believing it. Jesus Christ, the avalanche of death that was WWII is staggering..

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@stanmack6171]

Thanks for posting the military videos. I really like the content of your channel.

[@KMx108]

The guy who probably suffered a head injury is told he has anxiety and is given time to "pull himself together" so he can go back into combat in 5 days. Yeah....I'm sure he'll be fully recovered.

[@cynthiahawkins2389]

'shell shock' WW1. 'battle fatigue' WW2. PTSD - Iraq/Afghanistan....The condition is the name; only the name changes....And, our poor veterans still suffer.

[@SandfordSmythe]

Shell shock was so named because it was thought the concussion from a shell caused the mental problems, and now it is recognized as Traumatic Brain Syndrome in some cases. The symptoms are different.

[@learningbuddies915]

Years later we haven’t found the cure to help humans experience horror and not be affected by it. Today in 2020, up to 20 veterans a day commit suicide after returning back from combat duties. Truly sad, what politicians will do without regard to these men. I hate how they force the men to identify why they can’t fight. Then asking if they feel guilty for leaving his buddies behind.

[@Danny2k34]

A portion of that is also due to the fact they are not prepared to be re-introduced into normal citizenship so most of them end up homeless which just makes everything worse and being homeless only exacerbates any PTSD the vet is suffering from. If they only had a very mild case, being on the streets, cold, alone and left with nothing but your own thoughts can push many over the edge which is sad indeed.

[@meganbirdsall8708]

It's really amazing how well they did when you look at the how much they carried vs their weight. Or how many came home with malnutrition or scurvy.

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@alyssamcintosh5868]

11:38-11:49 “I just can’t stand to see people being killed.” 😢I literally felt that. For that doctor-no need to be a jerk about it. You think these guys in combat enjoy watching soldiers and/or civilians dropping dead like flies?! I never been in combat, but that would get me all f**ed up

[@sharkaspree8148]

The doctor in the Division rehabilitation centre seems so emotionless, but I guess having to process all of the patients and make sure they're forwarded onto their appropriate treatments would have to be pretty stern. And to be fair to him, in these times and especially during a war, there isn't much room to be soft like psychiatrists are (and should be) now

[@JohnJohnson-fr5cx]

Damn, all my psychiatrists have been dicks, definitely emotionless

[@MarioMastar]

Then the question becomes "What's stopping us from using these weapons against our own people then? Why should these people keep fighting what seems like a waste of their lives for people so unsympathetic?" War is terrible, but what people forget is loyalty is only skin deep and if the people you're defending are somehow worse than those you're fighting against and you're going to die anyway.... it's very easy to turn the rifle around. It's happened many times even in recent years. People need to know what they're fighting for is worth giving thier life for, and a sarcastic man telling me "Duty comes first" is the last thing people want to defend. As people learned after Vietnam. It's not "Soft" to be compassionate. it's "Soft" to be so callous and uncaring while sitting comfy in a chair watching others come to you with scars and bruises and thinking "lucky that's not me".

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@lsmftymf]

Excerpts of this film are featured in PBS' American Experience documentary The Battle of the Bulge: World War II's Deadliest Battle which first aired on November 9, 1994.

[@katherinea.williams3044]

The Greatest Generation ✨🙏🏼🇺🇸

[@Kai-wf1um]

how so. The world was literal hell during that time. it's still is but quite a bit better now.

[@genogeno1234]

every generation who has completed combat is the greatest generation. That was just a buzzphrase coined by Tom Brokow in order to garner a fan base.

[@CatBrash]

my grandparents and their siblings fought in this war, my grandfather was a medic and I wish he would have told me stories but he never once spoke of what he saw

[@benjaminduncan6220]

The psychiatrist is clearly an Army one. These are more man than I can imagine. In my time, I wish I could be that. Seeing that psychiatrist is essentially talking to your Sarge. Treats you the same. Much love to these men.

[@justintime1343]

I too, wish I could be an Army psychiatric case. Dare to dream.

[@solomon-uu5xh]

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[@mfanwelikeit3760]

The old sergeant syndrome… 34 months service. 320 days combat.

[@andrewhill4986]

Respect

[@MsYoung-il5fd]

Doctor is terrible, “what brought this about?” Duh .. “dead people can’t hurt you.. just take a few days and go back to shooting and seeing dead people.“ Dr. Looks creepy when he talks with that sway. Then the other doctor , “Nothing is going to get worse and not affect your future life.” Just have a hot shower and luxury shave. “

[@GREENMAYNE]

“Dead people can’t hurt you”

[@MsYoung-il5fd]

Ikr! “How do you feel about that?

[@feralbluee]

and another dumb one!! “Are you afraid of dying?” i would say he’s more afraid of being alive!! 😑

[@noisepuppet]

Another thing that was pretty much harmless: an exploding shell that blew the guy into the air hard enough to break his rifle. Yeah, sure, it just scares you more than anything. Something something safety valve to blow off steam. Have a nice war! Holy smokes.

[@noisepuppet]

... And that one had already been wounded twice. How were his nerves not completely shattered?

[@fashionistalagerfeld1954]

Yes they can. If they had a disease 🦠 when they died the embalmer will not embalm them. Example : The AIDS Epidemic

[@jackpinesavage9806]

34th Infantry division. Had been through all north africa, and went into italy near the Anzio or Salerno area. Fought the hard way against a very competent enemy. Subdued red bull patch.

[@CatBrash]

imagine watching this and seeing your grandfather being necrotic and displayed for viewing

[@lauraholtsclaw9389]

“Next..... You’ll be ok. Here’s a few days of good food and not not seeing the horrors of war. Now get back to it son.”

[@proud2bpagan]

i know it was treatment protocol at the time, but i wanted to deck that doctor using a type of mental 'CBT, everytime he 'exposed' that soldier to 'shelling'. right up there with Patton going to Walter Reed,meeting a man with shell shock, and slapping him, demanding the guy stop being a cowardly goldbrick and be a man

[@mikesebphoto]

That happened in a field Hospital in, I believe, Sicily, not Walter Reed

[@martyabeln6167]

I wonder if any of the psychiatrists had ever been in combat.

[@mnpd3]

That's the 34th Infantry Division (Redbull Division).

[@lapplandsjagare]

Hello from Sweden 🙋🏻‍♂️🇸🇪

[@bobbystclaire]

William Tecumseh Sherman correctly stated more is not romantic it's not glamorous it's not anything it's only one thing and that is it's hell, you can't expect a person man or woman to go through hell and be completely healthy either mentally or physically .

[@AnonYmous-ry2jn]

All the psychiatrist's questions were very forcefully coercive, though they seemed like questions. They all were more focused on conveying what the soldier must accept, and acquiesce to, that seeking information. The soldier has already been conditioned to total submissiveness to orders, even ones which to him will actually be self-destructive. It's fascinating, disturbing and sad that psychiatry would (or perhaps must) be used this way. But it seems obvious that the main point is to overcome these natural self-preservation instincts which incline such a traumatized soldier to withdraw from the combat mentality. It's sad that while it's so blatantly manipulative to us, focused on sacrificing the soldier for the sake of the military needs, the soldier cannot afford to interpret his "treatment" so cynically, and automatically accepts its legitimacy and that it is (at least in some sense)for his own good. (Notice his look when he says "thank you, sir" upon being told he's being sent back into combat in a few days, an experience that has been traumatizing to him; he smiles as if appreciative, but it's obvious that beneath the smile he is in agony; and it's as if the psych is saying to the poor soldier's unconscious: "you just try, buster, and act like you can't handle going back into combat, and you see what happens!')

[@lindathrall5133]

I REMEMBER THE PUP TENTS THEY WERE THE BEST TENT TO HAVE I MISS MY PUP TENT

[@docautrisim885]

I read Soldier’s Heart as a teenager and didn’t understand the protagonists pain. I do now. Thankfully, each war since has taught our drs and commands about the demand on the war daughters and the toll that is paid by them not just physically but mentally.

[@HUMPTYNUGGET]

Didnt General Patten assault some of his men who had PTSD ?

[@proud2bpagan]

yup. he slapped a guy,and basically told the guy to get it together,be a man,and quit wasting medic corp's time and get back to fighting.

[@xusmico187]

shrink would know what the troop means if they had to spend time under fire.

[@jaystah1905]

🙏 😥 Thank you.

[@NECHOII]

*A SHELL-SHOCKUMENTARY!!!*

[@AcademyMike]

It was of its day. Things are different now.

[@rosesprog1722]

58,000 boys died in Vietnam, more than 100,000 committed suicide back home... I guess the treatments were not well 'adapted' yet! In fact, there is no treatment, any man in a combat situation, no matter how strong he is will eventually break down because of what he has seen, and what he has to do to survive.

[@john-brady]

The proper care and treatment of cannon fodder …

[@adellharrydesigns]

And what are we doing today that future generations will look at in shock, like we do to this?

[@michaelriley2]

That first guy was definitely suffering from tbi.

[@noisepuppet]

Well I'm sure this is going to be fine and normal

[@DirtyLifeLove]

That 1st guy should get two Purple Hearts and be sent home. 9 months of serving in battle field is enough.

[@BarryHope-bj5um]

That Doc ain't treating the soldier, he sounds like he is interagating.

[@Rob2k22]

who knew war was bad eh

[@GREENMAYNE]

This doctor is terrible

[@MsYoung-il5fd]

Not empathetic, just getting it on camera . Makes me mad

[@docautrisim885]

He’s ignorant. But they’re learning. Been learning. They’re still learning with us. Each generation of warfighter have made the drs progressively more aware regarding PTSD and it’s affects on us.

[@user-zp9br7jk9k]

these men fought and died for the freedoms their grand/great grandchildren are just tossing into the fire as if they mean nothing... look at how your freedoms are being slaughtered left and right.. you do not even have the right to visit your dying grandfather in his care home. shame on the sheeple for dishonoring these men and women.

[@unassistedsuicide2243]

I’m just guessing you were fine with Trump - who dodged the draft - heckling from the sidelines as a half million Americans died from COVID-19 on his watch. Your flag-waving pseudopatriotism won’t get you a nickel & a cup of “covfefe”.

[@angvannuil9280]

Poor boys ,,,my heart man ,,,so barbaric, they were not treated properly...ignorance an unfeeling drs who had no idea what was going an they had never had to witness the horror,,,young men dying in wars old men start

[@BarryHope-bj5um]

Let me guess, a slap in the head by a 3 star?

[@Omega9935]

The second solider were more realistic, the first is only propaganda.

[@redmercury1159]

agent orange

[@izzydeadyet7336]

This is ww2, no agent orange

[@redmercury1159]

@@izzydeadyet7336 point taken