Pagani sounds like a perfect musical instrument while T50 is just pure V12 madness. I cant pick.
@damiendoisher781218 күн бұрын
Couldn’t really go wrong with either. Both sound fantastic in their own way.
@jnmason628314 күн бұрын
They both sound so damn good, but with different tones, different emotions. The "base" T50 is a bit tamed, the Niki Lauda is savage like a 333SP or F50 GT1, the Valkyrie has some old V12 LMP vibes (which is awesome in its own way) and the the Huayra R blends everything together like the wildest pipe organ
@militarymotivation99544 күн бұрын
@@jnmason6283it’s not tamed it’s just a road car 😂
@jnmason62832 күн бұрын
@@militarymotivation9954 You have a point 😅
@jeffeffinggluck18 күн бұрын
No losers here. These 2 need a race series.
@MainMite0618 күн бұрын
LM Hypercar
@rozi512918 күн бұрын
you have gt1 trackdays even streamed on yt live, i know it's not racing but it is still epic to watch zonda/huayra r's, ferrari xx models, lambo track car, valkyre and all those cars running on track together
@1980VINZ18 күн бұрын
T.50S Niki LAUDA HANDS DOWN. It reminds me *EXACTLY* F1 cars during the 80’-90´s, the best era of racing cars that I lived and watched in real life. The Pagani sounds so good but really the GMA is on another planet to me.
@thorsteen16575 күн бұрын
I think so, too! The GMT has is more a high revving engine. Sounds like a 89 Ferrari F1.
@nahum198618 күн бұрын
Both are real BEASTS but GM T50.s MY GODNESS!!!! is another level...
@lucasblanchard4718 күн бұрын
I personally think the T.50 V12 engine is more impressive because it’s much smaller and also higher revving than the Pagani. Both sound incredible but the T.50 takes it for me.
@hugo-pg5tv17 күн бұрын
Being smaller makes it way easier to reach high rpm like what? There is a reason superbikes revs to 13k+ with ease
@lea266615 күн бұрын
You're comparing engines with over 20 years in between them. About sound alone, I prefer the Mercedes engine, the high pitch is incomparable.
@lucasblanchard478 күн бұрын
@@lea2666 yes I am comparing them. Very observant of you.
@lucasblanchard478 күн бұрын
@@hugo-pg5tv yes
@jstewlly474718 күн бұрын
That T50s is a 1989 F1 engine in car form......
@skarademirlidag18 күн бұрын
Pagani is suitable after 40s cryis man who tries to attract gold diggers. 😂😂😂😂 Fck them all Ferrari 812 or lamborghini avendetor are more practical
@BLKBRDD18 күн бұрын
imagine a few valkyries, Hyuara Rs and some T50s running around a track at the same time. It would be a symphony
@budniyevgeny7 күн бұрын
Don't forget about FXX-K & Essenza SCV12.
@jasonmillington43446 күн бұрын
And those noise limits will be broken and kicked off. Is a real shame as they should be heard
@sveeny18 күн бұрын
03:01 still can‘t believe how they could make the Huayra R sound that high pitched even though it „only“ reaches 9000 RPM. They do both sound marvellous.
@divinasi0n16 күн бұрын
In Maisteer's video, he discovered that stepped engine headers are how you get that high pitched sound. Thats why there's such a drastic difference in pitch between these and other engines, despite the RPM. I don't know if the T50s has them - I imagine it does because you can hear that scream at the same octave as the pagani, but its much more subtle. Maybe it has less steps? 🤔
@sveeny16 күн бұрын
@@divinasi0n Actually I've heard of that too.Even though there's a reasonable explanation it still amazes me how well this works in practice though! 😀
@The-fs5wn8 күн бұрын
A combination of an even firing order (which the T50 doesn't have due to its 65 degree v-angle) and stepped headers. Either one would be even better with a triple exit, but that's pretty much why the pitch isn't too radically different despite the displacement and rpm delta.
@marcelOberauer17 минут бұрын
The exhaust shape was designed specially to sound like that.
@nomienoman923218 күн бұрын
Both sound incredible. Pagani takes the aesthetics
@SoFloDamien18 күн бұрын
My god…there is heaven on earth. Both r pure madness. Auditory bliss. T50 really hits that upper register tenor note with authority
@BobJones-pu6by10 күн бұрын
Take a bow Gordon murray and team.
@daniellewis76218 күн бұрын
I thank i like the t50 better since the v12 is high pitch because of the rpm rather then the exhaust
@MrCornholios18 күн бұрын
Full titanium exhausts and manifolds sound so good on V12s. This is where this high pitch sound came from.
@kaledzarzar45318 күн бұрын
I know you didn't specify but according to the official Pagani's website, the Huayra R exhaust is made from Inconel 625/718 alloy. No idea about the T.50 tho
@grosano9518 күн бұрын
The high-pitched sound comes from the equal-length headers and the merge of both sides (x-pipe). Titanium just makes the sounds more raspy and metallic (lighter metal, thinner walls).
@MrCornholios18 күн бұрын
@@kaledzarzar453 According to the GMA Website its made of inconel and titanuim on the T50. Both material have similar specs.
@chabweezy990518 күн бұрын
inconel>>>>
@ImAyzh1318 күн бұрын
@@grosano95the high pitched sound actually comes from stepped headers, not a very well known trick
@daniellewis76218 күн бұрын
T50 sounds more raw
@jstewlly474718 күн бұрын
It just revs faster bro but your right
@kennethgithinji563118 күн бұрын
@@jstewlly4747because the Huayra Revs to max 8000 rpm while the GM T50 NL , has a smaller lighter engine reving to 12k rpm
@jeremyclares485118 күн бұрын
@@kennethgithinji5631nah this video has a description that says that the Huayra R revs up to 9000 rpm while the T.50S NL revs up to 12100 rpm…
@kennethgithinji563118 күн бұрын
@jeremyclares4851 close estimate
@jstewlly474718 күн бұрын
@kennethgithinji5631 that's a Huayra and it revs to 9k actually it's 6.0l
@neildisley77796 күн бұрын
T.50's V12 sound is the best out there, revs to 12,200rpm 😮💥
@toddc278816 күн бұрын
Great video NM2255! I love them both. They’re brutal and explosively brisant. The Pagani has an edge of furious urgency, like it’s about to go supercritical just before redline
@smoath18 күн бұрын
Wow T.50s has exquisite tone.
@wills.junks718 күн бұрын
The T50s sounds more pure and raw screaamer like, while the Huayra R is like that of a refined classical instrument piece. Both sound characters I really love and it's a hard choice to choose between the two of em
@wytewizzard10 күн бұрын
Those upshifts n downshifts are GODLY... Lord!
@SVJontop18 күн бұрын
that v12. wow
@lucasblanchard4718 күн бұрын
Which one? They’re both V12 engines ha
@brucelee_nsx63483 күн бұрын
The T50 with that naturally aspirated V12 🔥 I would buy one but it’s all sold out lol 😅
@mxtt81703 күн бұрын
It’s like two flavors of V12 to me. The Huayra R is loud yet smooth, like a ‘sweet’ flavor of V12. The T50 is visceral and raw, like a ‘sour’ flavor. Both amazing in their own right
@Andrew-zx9wx17 күн бұрын
Great video! These two sound so good, I can’t pick which one I like better.
@apophisstr67192 күн бұрын
I can imagine the T.50 is basically Gordon's ultimate wet dream made physical, a seamless combination of his masterpiece F1 and his forbidden art of active ground effect.
@marcandres711318 күн бұрын
V12 wins
@pizzaroll660418 күн бұрын
t50 sounds great,size is great for sure drivability is great. for that i want huayra r
@jessesoares548112 күн бұрын
I was waiting for this video, I prefer the Huayra R, the sound reminds me of the glorious Ferrari 412 T2, but with half the revs that the Ferrari reached, Pagani did an exquisite acoustic job here
@biafo45418 күн бұрын
Both sounds insane, im taking the T.50 simply because it looks like its on rails
@therehanseries18 күн бұрын
Look how quick and stable the T50 is at the corners
@creativeearthian170212 күн бұрын
T50 Most amazing car ever built
@nader9118 күн бұрын
god i wish for a racing regulation where the Valkyrie, T50, Huayra r and Essenza SCV12 take part in
@Rajonas0079 күн бұрын
Music to my ears ❤❤❤
@chengteh15 күн бұрын
I remember when F1 used to sound like that...
@DatOneCat18 күн бұрын
T.50 Hands down. In terms of complete super car package in the modern day it also takes my pick too. Especially after seeing what the other manufacturers had showcased recently. ESPECIALLY Ferrari.
@benardmothapo536917 күн бұрын
I love both of them differently but the T.50 is pure brute force💪
@kimsndergaard9734 күн бұрын
I seriously love the T50
@dvniyana8 күн бұрын
Pagani sounds amazing but the controls is heavy and I choose for T50 sounds perfect and also very lightweight.
@jacklingenfelter77658 күн бұрын
The T-50 literally sounds like a Lynx fighting with another Lynx lol and it’s awesome
@c0stly_cb717 күн бұрын
T50s sounds so good
@daniellewis76218 күн бұрын
The t50s sounds more natural then artificially high pitch
@amirtak98866 күн бұрын
Nothing beats an un-muffled NA V12 engine. Straight up orchestral music to my ears.
@AP13P18 күн бұрын
Huayra R is on another level.
@neildisley77796 күн бұрын
Yeah, but T.50's V12 sound is the best out there, revs to 12,200rpm 💥
@zacariasfangueiro407316 күн бұрын
T-50S obviously 💪👌😘
@ZeroSpawn5 күн бұрын
Good Camera angles and Editing.
@MrReue12 күн бұрын
The Formula 1 should take this Engine Sounds in a Soundgenerator for the new Powerunit 2026...i like the MB V12 in the Pagani a little bit more, but both are incredible.
@george892010 күн бұрын
Both are Amazing
@ramadhanisme718 күн бұрын
T50 is Intoxicating while huayra is addictive, can i choose both?
@k-mc9417 күн бұрын
Both fantastic! Now go listen to the F80 video and tell me that's progress 😔
@gabrielbarcellos103618 күн бұрын
Parabéns cara, esse é definitivamente o melhor vídeo desse canal
@jessesoares548113 күн бұрын
Br por aqui kkkk. Eu tava esperando muito alguém lançar esse vídeo, eu prefiro o Huayra R, o som lembra a gloriosa Ferrari 412 T2, mas com metade dos giros que a Ferrari alcançava
@gabrielbarcellos103612 күн бұрын
@@jessesoares5481Eu já acho que a T50 de rua soa mais parecido com a 412 T2, um ronco mais limpo, esses motores são sinistros demais 🔥
@Liminha_-jd8pv8 күн бұрын
O ronco do Huayra R é mais foda pra mim
@rdtyhpsr21136 күн бұрын
Gordon Murray T.50s Niki Lauda sounds more brutal!
@ChromeConnoisseur0818 күн бұрын
T50 wins because I got just got back from watching a documentary about the McLaren F1 and I really like those now
@Mike.18865 күн бұрын
It’s a shame that these cars sound so much better than today’s F1 cars
@Carreragt912 күн бұрын
God blesa this cars and people that made them
@svetlingueorguiev11989 күн бұрын
T50 looks and sounds better in my opinion, and I really like Pagani.
@MTheoOA18 күн бұрын
Absolutely no chance for the 1 note Pagani, love both, but absolutely no chance. T50 is ridiculous. Probably the best sound ever (excluding f1 v12, v10...)
@florianhenry669815 күн бұрын
Try the F50 gt or detomaso p72
@MTheoOA23 сағат бұрын
@@florianhenry6698 like both. Detomaso sounds glorious
@FurinaPininfarina18 күн бұрын
T50 sounds fantastic, but... I'd take the Pagani because I just love their 'R' cars in general...
@BullyBoxer5 күн бұрын
that T50 sounds like an F1 car from 20 year ago .
@final877218 күн бұрын
I believe the T50s sound to be actually too sharp, too intense for my liking. The Huayra R is still intense but is honey on the ears, its a symphony. Did anyone else at FOS feel the same way about the T50s?
@egyptology225 күн бұрын
Gordon has it
@MrCornholios18 күн бұрын
There is a video here on YT who a guy has instaled a full titanium exhaust with manifolds on a V12 Mercedes 600 SE W140 in Japan. And it soundet like a Pagani Zonda. They also have the same engine.
@Robert-Cinque77718 күн бұрын
Fspot The zonda has the m120 engine Huayra r has a bespoke engine
@MrCornholios18 күн бұрын
@@Robert-Cinque777 Huyara R and R EVO have the m120 N/A engine from the Zonda. Rest of the Huyaras have twin turbo V12s.
@Robert-Cinque77718 күн бұрын
@MrCornholios nah, look it up, its not the m120. It has a different name.
@MrCornholios18 күн бұрын
@@Robert-Cinque777 Its a high modifyed m120 from HWA AG renamed as Pagani V12-R. Even the displacement of 5,987cc is the same. Check Wikipedia.
@Robert-Cinque77718 күн бұрын
@@MrCornholios check Wikipedia... "The Huayra R uses the "Pagani V12-R", a version of the 6.0 L naturally aspirated Mercedes-Benz V12 engine built from the ground up by HWA AG to produce 850 PS ..."
@clicheguevara528218 күн бұрын
I still play "The New York Race" in the Crew 2 several times a week and use my T.50 99% of the time. As much as I absolutely love that car and the sound, the sound actually does get annoying after a while.That race is 30 minutes long. After a couple months, it just started feeling like someone was screaming into my ears. Lol
@HerrinSchadenfreude10 күн бұрын
I don't really get why people are acting like there's a night and day difference between the two of as if the Huayra doesn't sound raw and violent next to the T50. It's like people don't hear those wicked Pagani downshifts and definitely don't remember the Zonda R, which is every bit as brutal and angry sounding as the T50. In fact, I'd say that the T50 stands in here for the Zonda R's "naked brutality" role perfectly. So different in r refinement? A bit. But one being hands down better than the other? No. And whomever called the Huayra "one tone" should visit an ENT sooner than later because he's gone tone deaf.
@GF-mf7ml9 күн бұрын
When V12 is life
@kawagonzo695117 күн бұрын
Murray!
@RandomVideosFirst16 күн бұрын
Sounds like an 80s/90s F1 Car
@creativeearthian170212 күн бұрын
80s F1 cars sounded much more like today's F1 than the 90s ones
@hiroashida72078 күн бұрын
T50 takes on idle low rpm sound Both sound good but i think T50 is more F1 sound plus bonus he can spit fire. while pagani like LFA
@Redlineshadow293 күн бұрын
Gordon Murray vs Horacio Pagani. What a match, such a shame that this is starting now if not earlier
@tescoshortage18 күн бұрын
I think the Pagani sounds better. Thr T.50, whether the road car or the T.50S , actually sounds too perfect. It has such a smooth engine note that you can’t hear each individual revolution of the engine (that’s heard as a bassy undertone) like you can in the Pagani. I will say, you can hear some of it coming from the intake of the T50, but not from the exhaust.
@prdn816 күн бұрын
The sound of SOUND
@stevesmith30334 күн бұрын
The Pagani is tonal perfection. The T.50 seems to be missing a bit of full throatiness in the lower notes and has a bit of a vacuum cleaner sound.
@Taiwanhiphop9 сағат бұрын
the voice of Jeremy Clarkson " 4:40 is at that point in this video where you stop what you're doing, break out the cigarette of your choice, and smoke it. God-bless these cars."
@Choschnebab17 күн бұрын
That Mercedes V12!
@RockSolitude15 күн бұрын
Matter of personal taste really.
@dudedude799818 күн бұрын
huayra all day
@dopeflamingo18 күн бұрын
Asking if which are you going to pick between the two is like asking "would you date Brook Shields or Jennifer Connelly?"
@luispenadg22 сағат бұрын
Somebody has to take that T.50 to LeMans under the experimental category and win the whole thing just like the F1. Would be epic.
@veyronel18 күн бұрын
Let's poll! Thumbs up for: Gordon Murray T.50 !!! (thumbs up both, if both!)
@roostfezza75634 күн бұрын
Well the T50 mightn't look the greatest but it sure sounds great!
@marcelOberauer21 минут бұрын
Both sound practically the same to me... What car shape like you most will influence your "sound taste".
@xYoshiLP.5 сағат бұрын
Huayra R beats any V12 for me just love that car
@miladzadeh4 күн бұрын
GOOSEBUMPS
@patriceimberdis163117 күн бұрын
T50S is better because V12 Cosworth have more RPM.
@hugo-pg5tv17 күн бұрын
Rpm barely matter tho.
@patriceimberdis163117 күн бұрын
This is precisely what matters for the engine and exhaust noise. The T50s is better in every way. Lighter engine with a higher compression ratio, not to mention the weight of the chassis.
@hugo-pg5tv17 күн бұрын
@@patriceimberdis1631 the weight of the chassi has 0 matter for the engine sound and rpm doesn't matter a lot wheb it cones to a good sounding engine. The Valkyrie sounds horrible yet it's way over 10k rpm. Exhaust setup is way more important than just rpm.
@patriceimberdis163117 күн бұрын
The Mercedes V12 much older in terms of design with some modifications just has more torque but much heavier in terms of weight, the Ferrari V12 of the Enzo is much better
@patriceimberdis163117 күн бұрын
@@hugo-pg5tv you not love the V12 Cosworth and i not love the V12 Mercedes is simple .peace 😉
@Questron722 сағат бұрын
The Pagani has an AMG engine. Looks aren't the only experience you buy into Like an exclusive watch in precious metal with a decorated Sellita movement. If equal, I would always prefer an exclusive watch with an in-house movement.
@mariomario2volte7 күн бұрын
'95 Ferrari F1 V12 still has the pole position
@CanIbeFrank18 күн бұрын
Both
@JDMEXforme11 сағат бұрын
Both are sick, give the edge to T50 because of the manual. It sound more like oldschool F1. Whats funny is the design of the Huayra is turning into a Zonda. The Zonda was better looking. Maybe thats why. More sharp and straight lines. He should just bring back the Zondas.
@atom60818 күн бұрын
I think the Pagani v12 sounds better as it also has this underlying low tone while the t50 sounds just like someone that straight piped their civic but in a v12 form, The t50 is the more impressive engine but id rather listen to the pagani
@rev59k18 күн бұрын
T50 wins that one
@arzemagicКүн бұрын
If I was DDE , I would probably TwinTurbo the T 50, put a wide body kit on it completely mess up the suspension and put a bigger wing on it to make it worse. Oh and never check the oil
@perun.fitness5 күн бұрын
Like you need to choose :D Just enjoy the sounds and stop comparing everything. No other person needs your analysis on a car sound.
@kimwarfield15876 күн бұрын
They both sound awesome, but I like the T50s better. I still think the Ferrari FXX Evoluzione sounds the best and the 333SP is right in there. And never forget the 787B.
@antaresvariant23069 күн бұрын
The Huayra has the more prominent higher pitch of the two. The T50's should be much higher given the higher revs. It's sorta there, you can hear that upper octave at times.
@JosephMurray-z7q16 сағат бұрын
I think the Herrera screams like a mad cat.
@gastonalejandrolazzati31348 күн бұрын
V12 forever ❤
@NORWAYORNOWAY7 күн бұрын
GMA.
@3800TURBO7 күн бұрын
Does the fan on the T50 actually provide down force like the old Bernie fan car?
@Shadowboost2 күн бұрын
Not exactly. It's a boundary layer suction device, but yes it provides downforce
@anjoLas18 күн бұрын
Pagani FTW
@mattimatteo17 күн бұрын
LORIS bicocchi spotted on the T50s!? am I right?
@90MinutenLang020Damsko8 күн бұрын
Both, give me both
@gherasimtibi2 күн бұрын
The T.50 would look perfect without that round fan in the back