NO ARTIFACT Abyss Challenge! (Genshin Impact)

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Today in Genshin Impact we're doing another dumb challenge, and perhaps the hardest one yet. Abyss with no artifacts.
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0:00 Intro
2:16 Deciding on Team
5:10 Suffering Begins
8:28 A Change of Team
9:25 Suffering Continues
16:33 Another Team Change
17:20 Another Suffer

[@Mogawty]

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[@wastestime101]

painful

[@liz.l1zzy]

Do you hate yourself 💀?

[@hisham363]

being totally honest with you seeing you struggling in floor10 chamber 2 I thought to myself knowing chamber3.... how long will it take him to give up? ah also I thought tt you might be from those people love being in pain

[@banditdoggo]

You should used xinyan since her c2 doesn't need crit rate and you can give her Redstone claymore but you probably dont even have her leveled

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Nice

[@shirinadler6017]

Finally a video when moga doesn’t need to worry about finding everyone’s gear😂

[@Deadlyss]

after the video he sure will 😭

[@TheSageOf6Sikes]

There is a downside to everything

[@lucynsuns]

☠️☠️☠️Be careful what you wish for moment

[@fridayimpact]

Clearing Abyss with no arts: "bring it on!" Find all the sets you've misplaced from your mains: "alright, I wanted to take a break from the game anyway..."

[@MesterMontana]

Lmao

[@ChipzDaRipper]

Moga's Raiden hitting for 43k with no artifacts and my Raiden getting around that same damage with artifacts is soul crushing 😭😂 Update: My Raiden is c2 now and I got Engulfing Lighting my soul is restored (Holy Moly 1k likes?!)

[@FilmFlam-8008]

You really need to reassess your Raiden build then. Go to KequingMains and see how to build her. I guarantee you swap out artifacts and weapons and she will easily hit over 100k.

[@ocean7790]

I have c0, nearly maximised f2p catch Raiden(i seriously have 45 cv artifacts on her,farming for 1 year), the most solo damage she has done is 80k(single burst strike, literally no buffs), so your Raiden hitting 43k is preety normal But it's definitely a different thing if that was with buffs, i have hit 300k+ with my same Raiden , Raiden is a team based character, every single thing about her is TEAM

[@brunksbr]

his reaiden is c6

[@quint2568]

@@ocean7790 that's pretty low still.

[@ashuradarklighter4822]

@@brunksbr c3

[@Shade_18]

I'm convinced Moga just loves pain, who thinks of something so terrible

[@fuhua9670]

masochist?

[@adityasangeeth4255]

Masochist Moga. Someone call bones.

[@yumi_f]

@@adityasangeeth4255 i don’t even know if bones can help

[@Epicgamer-mt9gc]

I cant stop laughing

[@nityak6025]

@@fuhua9670 Mogasochist

[@chaosphoenix2812]

The problem with zhonglis shield having no hp could've maybe been parially solved by giving him the black tassel. It gives HP after all. And it is a 3 star, so not that hard to get.

[@fireflysstool]

Not that hard to get. He has it. But he has dementia. Hehe.

[@cronfort]

he doesn't want to raise it too much resources

[@fireflysstool]

@@cronfort He has it raised tho, No?

[@cronfort]

@@fireflysstool i don't remember but can you send me the vid when he did, i genuinely don't remember 😭

[@fireflysstool]

@@cronfort Idk i just assume so.

[@Fixional]

I think ganyu would be really good for this challenge as amos bow gives a lot of attack, she ascends with crit damage, and getting a head shot has 100% crit for both hits from the charge attack.

[@xbrainiac6135]

Honestly, i think the ayaka would be best. and kazuha with iron sting could help and maybe sucrose and/or bennie. In tghe last spot, yelan would be the best to freeze oponents.

[@hanoianboy9562]

@@xbrainiac6135 no point using iron sting when you have freedom sworn on kazuha lol

[@Axterix13]

You'd probably want Favonius Sword on Kazuha over either of the EM options, for energy reasons. But if you were to use an EM sword, I believe he has the Xiphos' Moonlight, no? That'd be the one I'd go for, since it would provide some ER for the team.

[@Hmm_okk_lol]

@@xbrainiac6135 I too think Ayaka without artifacts will do good since she can attack faster.

[@jaydenmotley7915]

​@@Axterix13fav wouldn't work

[@iHnck]

I'm not sure why didn't you use kazuha or venti + some kind of perma freeze like ayaka and mona so you can chill, save your stamina and not get hit every 0.5 second, that would have made things a tiny bit easier

[@Aaron_Kuroiwa]

These are awful teams for the challenge lol. Transformation reactions would’ve been perfect. Swirl especially and instead he’s running around with single target units mashing auto attacks. Fun video though.

[@bhuviking18]

Fr

[@_fufufu_]

Moga kinda do be like that 🥲 never diving deep into things and then suffering from his own carelessness It becomes disappointing at times tbh

[@beazmetry]

i guess when you’re a whale you get kinda lazy when learning how to play the game lmao it sucks when he doesn’t think of basic stuff for hard challenges like this

[@ginichimaruan3572]

@@Aaron_Kuroiwa transformative reactions with no EM? Not so good.

[@regolith_9969]

I think Zhongli with black tassel would’ve been far better since homa’s crit is practically useless

[@Aohira6538]

FINALLY, now you feel how I feel when trying to do abyss with MY artifacts

[@serumnexus6961]

We feel real pain. We don't even have an excuse

[@there.are-no.handlesAVAILABLE.]

Underrated comment

[@rohanphoolchand7333]

I dont want to believe that he is doing more damage than me...WITHOUT ARTIFACTS

[@kaoriislost]

I know the weapon banner is a scam but this video is an amazing ad for it TT

[@itsmertbitch5790]

darling go fix your account

[@yzan443]

he has high leveled talents, good weapons and constellations.

[@bun334]

He is a whale. That's all.

[@mizookuu]

Ar 5?

[@Fawkes-y]

All I could think about throughout the entire video is how much of a pain it will be for Moga to get everyone’s gear back to how it was LMAO

[@kasuha]

Bubbles aren't that hard to avoid if you know how they work. First, four will spawn around you. And after you leave the square formed by them, another one will appear in your way. So just move beyond the four then take turn to the left or right and you're good. But of course it also involves noticing they're about to spawn and getting ready to not run into one of the four in the first place.

[@TomEllisLovesU]

Don't they pop if you shoot them too?

[@lucianojadur]

@@TomEllisLovesU yes, that's why AoE spammers are important when fightinh against bubbles. E.g. Sucrose laughs at them.

[@senbonkzakura7991]

Wait they have a mechanic ? I always thought they randomly appear on you

[@lucianojadur]

@@senbonkzakura7991 there're 2 waves. The 1st one spawns 4 bubbles around you which work as the vertices of a square. Once you leave the square (let's say passing through an edge, aka between two bubbles) the 2nd wave starts, and it spawns 4 more bubbles, making a second and bigger square whose vertices are aligned with the 1st one's edges. So you need to turn your character either 45° or 135° immediately after leaving the first square (going between 2 bubbles), otherwise you'll get caught into the bubble of the 2nd wave who appears at that moment. If you break the 1st wave using an AoE atk then you have a wider space to run into since the 2nd square is way bigger than the 1st one. In that case, the bet choice is to run into the same direction of the bubbles of the 1st square, since you'll automatically pass through an edge of the 2nd square.

[@vicca4671]

Now do "Fully stacked artifacts but no weapon", so we can compare which's more important~

[@sora6969]

bro artifacts are way more important . in genshin artifacts are like 60-65 % and weapons are like 35-40 %

[@jaydenking7408]

As a yoimiya main, watching you play with her on full ult was so painful 😭 you're not getting the full thundering pulse buff unless ur energy isn't full

[@elknolasshrineofraja3966]

🌸😹It would be one of true grit betwixt earnest challenging of one’s merit, and he would discard the crutch of so called necessities as artifacts in favor of true skill expression.😹🌸

[@RewZes]

I'm surprised you didn't think about vento and Kazuha

[@a_luminum1019]

If you ever do this again, I’d recommend freeze and reaction based teams. For the first one, either Morgana or Ayaka freeze with shenhe, kokomi, Ayaka, and venti/kazuha. I’d probably recommend the second since you don’t seem super comfortable playing with Ganyu. For the other team, nilou bloom might work well, possibly with kokomi, nilou, dendro traveller, and collei (or Nahida once she comes out). If you gave nilou the key and kokomi sac frags I’d imagine it could do a lot even without artifacts. Other good teams that come to mind are taser teams, such as with sucrose, yelan, fiscal, beidou, kazuha, or Xingqiu. Alternatively, your yoimiya and hu Tao team would probably do pretty well, especially with Homa and thundering pulse. Also it might be worth it to raise a black tassel for zhongli, especially since Candace can use it later or you can just fodder it.

[@suedortnega6823]

Moga, I think for a challenge like this with no artifacts, it would be better to create a team that rely on transformative reactions like swirl, electro-charged, etc. since they do not need high ATK. If they are level 90 and have EM weapons they will deal decent damage.

[@pv0214]

It's been long since moga did a masochistic challange

[@0mimouser101]

honestly, my stargey would prbably be - Freeze, doesnt matter if you do dmg or not. If you have crowd control and freeze, with venti and OP ganyu ayaya kokomi team, you might win

[@asternautica]

this is actually pretty damn cool, i assumed artifacts were make or break, but your teams still did really well. does give me hope for beating abyss eventually

[@trojan_z1591]

Moga probably losing his mind without artifacts Zy0x: first time?

[@tomatozombie135]

hi moga, instead of eula i'd suggest a kaeya freeze team since he ascends with er and you can put sac/fav on him and you can also use kokomi (sac frags probably) kazuha (on er weapon, absorb hydro in burst since kokomi is your singular hydro) and rosaria with crit rate weapon. freeze should help with not dying

[@theicecreammachine7752]

But then you'd have barely have any dps and eula can still do a fair bit even without artis

[@ocean7790]

Well eula can still do bigg damage, i don't think no artifact kaeya can even get 1 star in a freeze team on higher floors Even with the highest crit weapon on rosaria, the crit of kaeya would still be preety low

[@schopenhauer5427]

Oh boy, this takes be back to when I decided to give abyss 9-12 a try for the first time about 2 years ago and under AR50. Pure pain

[@LordYoni]

I'm not sure, but wouldn't Hu Tao have been great? I mean she gives crit rate and relies on hp (so you could give her homa or smth). Well anyways, I'm impressed by your performance. On my alt I can't even do floor 9 with artifacts so just wow

[@TheWantice]

try using jean for fall damage on small enemies, hydro res to increase max hp, or characters that give a flat buff with their talents (like heizou for 80 em)

[@vengeance3364]

Venti is a good character who works without artifacts

[@vanitashole]

we really need a character who does dmg based on enemies' hp

[@vincikeeper1581]

Hmm terrible at small enemies but monstrous against bosses, interesting

[@teagie2002]

Moga.. You are a mad man and I applaude you for it 👏👏

[@shadownightmare2132]

Moga in his next video is gonna be like Beating spiral abyss solo with lvl 1 character, 1star weapon and no artifacts

[@Y-I-N-A]

You could have exploited tighnari aggro mechanic of his e, throw the e and run away from your e, you wouldnt have them on your tail all the time. You just need to move wisely so that all the enemies are aggroed towards the e. There is no time pressure since there is little chance you can get stars any way

[@thomascunningham7164]

I'm surprised he didn't try Nilou at all? Her blooms don't need character damage at all and scal more off character level and em. Either way this challenge seems rough...

[@ei_ko]

I agree! Bloom works perfectly since you can just stac hp on nilou and with either it was her weapon or ascension talent that converts hp into em and kokomi you can also just stack em on. DMC can just use an er weapon while collei uses fav bow to give the team energy.

[@EmiToast]

bloom bombs will kill the characters

[@thomascunningham7164]

@@EmiToast True, I imagine Kokomi would help, unless her low HP without artifacts can't keep up with the blooms.

[@varianmoonstone2492]

If it's the first 8 floor yes, I did that, as long that that the characters are 80/90 they will destroy the first floors even without artifacts of course, since all the monsters are low level. About the last floors even if possible it will definitely be hell.

[@goaway6844]

using a nilou bloom team wouldve been really easy like nilou kokomi collei dmc. even tho kokomi doesnt have full em on it still does good dmg just bc nilou alr has such a high base hp and with the key + hydro res. collei and dendro mc both need fav to regen each other since no er artifacts, but thats it.

[@winpicphotography4338]

Dude that was way more entertaining than a normal abyss run! What about a permafreeze comp?

[@nickdagr8wiz]

That Shogun burst still deals more than my 5pc emblem with er sands and goblet, crit rate circlet, and the catch

[@RafidW9]

Missed the best character that works without artifact, Venti.

[@Kunoichi4ever4]

I dunno if you have a Jean c4, but that with Xiao, Zhongli and Benny d work quite well. Most of Xiao buffs are not tied to any artifacts so that team should be viable.

[@shatteredspace4495]

Should've used Kazuha to swirl the electro on the Tighnari team.

[@blaze-storm9008]

Yooo. Love to see original and different content rather than people wishing or grinding artifacts 🔥🔥

[@austinadvincula4410]

Who the hell that's relatively big enough is doing domain runs in youtube 😭😭😭

[@Mary-vi8fe]

Geo traveller's burst gives 10% crit rate to the character that's in it

[@ArgoniumCore]

12:06 Oh yes, Sara, my favorite healer

[@Karolina-gd1il]

I've always wanted to see someone do this as a challenge

[@ciroidchavez246]

Moga literary forgot about the Morgana team 😅 they are also great even without artifacts

[@thedzgaming5782]

The biggest challenge in genshin impact

[@Anim7207]

You could do the other two abyss floors with +0 artifacts sometime. It's more manageable and you can find some interesting combos. Great video, btw!

[@vm8210]

you could do this again, but allow everyone to have level 0 artifacts(for a bit of stats, and the set bonuses)

[@kapikk7]

your shogun without artifacts does the same damage as mine with artifacts 💀

[@ei_ko]

damn although moga has c3 raiden lol

[@dragonlordleda]

The suffering was very entertaining. Respect for pulling off 10-3 at the end (you really got into the gaming stance)

[@RobbieStarburster]

Swirl is great for clearing bubbles. Sucrose's normal attacks can whipe them away with ease. Probably would've helped with the challenge too.

[@fejipe]

Moga, i do not know how much is worth, but, if u actually wanted a "poison " character which does max HP you could go for a burning reaction with tighnari. Burning does Max HP bases on EM so with collei you get dendro resonance and elegy with with tighnari pasive you can get aroud to a max of 300 EM aprox.

[@keo549]

Nice weapon banner ad :^) But really, this just shows how strong constellations/weapons are for characters.

[@picklerick9106]

heres a random (abyss?) challenge i thought of first spin a wheel to pick a weapon type then spin a wheel w all the characters, and the first one is the character you have to use and the second is the character whose current build you use; just give them the same artifacts and weapon and see how a team like that plays out

[@fridayimpact]

To put artifacts/levels impact difference into perspective: with just some roughly acceptable on-set artifacts, only level 60 characters (and level 70 Venti if I needed CC) and "educated button mashing" for a playstyle, I was able to reach the Moon Spire and 3 star everything until 10-3 on the first try. And I'm sure I could have at least cleared 10-3 with a bit of patience.

[@phantom1044]

12:07, ah yes, Sara the best electro healer

[@Percy.13]

C6 Shinobu will prevent her from dying from a lethal damage, it will save her with 1 HP left to spare. The fact that I deal the same damage with my characters with full artifacts on. But I can make do and finish the abyss with 36 stars is saying something.

[@Emily_Linka]

Yesss so fun to see you doing a stupid challenge again! Favourite Moga content

[@ayumilily]

for floor 10 chamber 3 maybe you can try a cc like Venti, most of the enemies in there can be cc but the hydro fauti.

[@sauusa6294]

That’s way more damage than I expected ngl.

[@koutthemonk3502]

fyi i think a soup team would be really good for this kind of challenge because most of the damage coems from your level and elemental mastery from the people who proc reactions so if you ran sucrose, bennet, xq, and fish if you gave sucrose a sac frags and fish a stringless they would basically do the same amount of dmg that they would do with reactions that they were doing anyway.

[@asterpm7]

Idk if u thought abt it but yelan was actually a rlly good choice bc of her pssive that just increases dmg

[@epiker5838]

@Moga Using units that scale of EM could have been a good option, since reactions don't scale of crit nor stk. Like and electro or pyro unit in a burgeon/hyperbloom team for example, with a high EM weapon and elegy + key users as supports, you could get not too bad numbers there

[@metaslave8824]

U can try this again when the spiral abyss gives that blessing which does true dmg every 3-4 hits it will be a lot easier then.

[@Libbix77]

hey moga!! i love your content i can already tell this will be an amazing video;))

[@Cj1207]

I actually saw someone 36* the abyss without artifacts but they had C6R5 but it was still impressive!

[@captnbluehat]

Who? I watched Henna Oyaji try that, he couldnt

[@Cj1207]

@@captnbluehat it was aliss, but it wasn't this abyss it was a few rotations back and it was just the floor 12, want me to link it?

[@captnbluehat]

@@Cj1207 nah, i believe ya

[@Cj1207]

@@captnbluehat LMAO I actually linked the vid but it didn't go through apparently 😂

[@marijabuleska]

everytime i open youtube and i see that you have posted i get happy until i see the title of the video. man u love edging urself xD

[@liquid_cheese9930]

I think you can try to beat abyss with hyperbloom team. One side would be Kokomi, Yelan on fav bow, Raiden with EM build, DMC. Another side will be Sucrose, Kuki, Xingqiu, Collei

[@kandhaunu1980]

I didnt know artifacts made this much difference omg- Just another day moga being a masochist :))

[@Mimi_Oneesan]

moga's dmg with no artefacts is like my dmg with artefacts 😭 i know i suck at building though and it stresses me out a lot, which is why i'm an ar56 player who doesn't do abyss or change my team ever

[@shirinadler6017]

I think albedo elevator or Jean fall DMG would have been great

[@vvkeqing]

i love when moga does abyss videos

[@pointless.videos1]

Good luck trying to figure out which characters used which artifacts now You have my condolences

[@maiyafae5484]

Could consider using Jean for fall damage on some of the Eremites, though might have been hard to do.

[@alvetgordon2410]

I love how his team is getting the same damage I get fully built

[@wow8247]

Seeing this has raised my anxiety, I'm never touching abyss

[@food8995]

just an idea, but since your own characters won't do too much damage alone, it might not be a good idea to run characters made to be a dps bcz since you won't have artifacts, most of your characters will similar in strength, trying to get damage from one character alone (eula for example) isn't efficent. maybe focus on reaction teams because reactions can't crit so cr-cd isn't important and your personal damage doesn't matter since its the reactions that are doing damage. fischl, sucrose, xingqiu, bennett for example since with weapons like sac fragments (sucrose), sac sword (xingqiu), and high base atk swords (bennett) er isnt important and none of them except maybe fischl rely on their personal artifacts/damage. running characters like ganyu who have naturally high crit or using characters/things like jean fall damage, clam set, mona's damage buff, ttds, or even yunjin/shenhe may be good as well.

[@soola1404]

I didn't watch the video yet but I already have a feeling where this is going

[@dstudios9207]

Bloom team waiting to be noticed for this challenge

[@ghostblasted8385]

intense gaming doesn't existe on genshin Moga : we will see about that

[@_ebo1a]

u should be using yoimiya's burst cuz i think it gives u atk boost

[@adam.n-steve]

Can you try this challenge? Objective: You do not need to three star. Simply just survive without anyone dying. You will have to restart the entire floor if someone die so basically, it's a survival challenge. Characters: All characters except the archons are viable however, there's only one dps and rest are either one sub-dps(only used as a dps when you're main dps is on cooldown) while the others are support or are all supports. There can only be one 5 star in each team. Note: All dps will be considered as a dps which means Xiangling and Beidou will both be considered as dps units despite only being offield meaning if you cannot use both in one team unless the other change their build. The driver will not beconsidered as dps however. Equipments: All artifact builds must be 4 star except for one unit in each team. The same rule applies for weapons as well.

[@arteshki5779]

Zhongli CA is amazing for escaping hydro maiden's prison cubes

[@higashkatajosuke8381]

Jean does kill the enemies with fall damage which scales off of enemy hp

[@littlerookie0_09]

All the pain had him needing to meet up with Nahida 😂

[@snakemgr12]

Hoyoverse: "there will be no endgame" Moga: "Fine I'll do it myself"

[@Mistellesonn]

I just started a second account and wanted to challenge myself to use characters, elements, and weapon types that I don't normally in my main game. I reached Spiral Abyss and it was a tough battle but I got through floor one! However, I didn't get 6 stars so I couldn't progress to floor two. I had to put the game down for a while because I was so crabby that they give you a time limit in abyss but it apparently doesn't mean squat! You gotta beat it in the super special time limits or you can't move forward. TT

[@Eveningcomet]

Moga: I am not a masochist Also Moga:

[@boothillistic]

you should’ve tried hyperbloom with kuki or something, kuki can use freedom sworn, kokomi can use moonglow, collei can use sacrificial or elegy and then a flex unit

[@EmiToast]

his characters would die because of the bloom bombs

[@boothillistic]

@@EmiToast which is why kokomi would be on field, she still has a good amount of hp

[@bigblue4364]

I feel like you have to focus on Multiplicative reactions, which is why The team doing Vaporize did okay and the EULA team did bad. Melt Ganyu perhaps, head-shots for crit and Melt bonus. Also, Lots of EM weapons that wouldn't rely as much on crit for reactions, Dragons bane, Sacrificial fragments etc etc.

[@vagueshade8197]

Mihoyo: no endgame content for you Moga: 🙃

[@ThorstenGowik]

I love teh sound when you smashed the Keyboard, that's me all the time 😅😅😅

[@J-rome]

That raiden burst is the same as my "fully build Raiden"🤧

[@pointless.videos1]

“38k… that’s sad” Brother, do you hear yourself right now? There’s NO ARTIFACTS ON HER

[@lightinggamer8774]

You could have used a freeze team with ganyu and you could have used Kazu or venti for cc

[@glendor1el]

Iirc Jean can actually do damage based on a percentage of enemies' hp by abusing fall dmg with a combination of her charged attacks and hold e. She also heals based on her atk, so an on-field atk focused Jean might actually not be bad for this

[@jocularlace1221]

I saw the title and immediately thought WHY?!

[@afterastarstruck]

You could try the opposite 1 star weapons with all artifacts

[@knightoggoldenbow4655]

A Team tht popt into my head would be Yelan, Kokomie, Kazuha and Nahida. Nahida provides EM and Dendro for the Team, Kazuha 'buffs' Elemental DMG with Nahidas EM boost and hydro Elemental Resonance buffs Kokomie and Yelan. Main DMG would come from Yealns Hydro and from Bloom

[@Sira-]

That floor 10 ch3 was so painful to watch! 💔

[@kenhugh3418]

Me thinking that morgana would rock this challenge since there are chambers where there are ventiable enemies. Also non artifact Yoimiya meta?! Yes!