Can I Beat Abyss Without Zhongli? (Genshin Impact)

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Moga

Moga

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@naps6687
@naps6687 Жыл бұрын
Bros treating zhongli like a drug 💀
@youlecills595
@youlecills595 Жыл бұрын
he kinda is 💀
@squanix3065
@squanix3065 Жыл бұрын
If you watch ANY OF HIS VIDEOS Zhongli is ALWAYS HERE , Zhongli is a drug for him
@simonditomasso9868
@simonditomasso9868 Жыл бұрын
That’s like being addicted to not using your brain 😭
@Suzoiaze
@Suzoiaze Жыл бұрын
Bros so hard for zongli than zongli is for osmathis wine 🍷
@Rustyclawz-kf2pn
@Rustyclawz-kf2pn Жыл бұрын
He kind of is💀
@tkba6290
@tkba6290 Жыл бұрын
The problem wasn't you not having Zhongli, The problem was you actually forget how to build a team without him.
@baronsionis6855
@baronsionis6855 Жыл бұрын
Easily the most accurate statement to be made regarding Moga's 'struggles' in this abyss despite having every unit in the game at his disposal.
@tkba6290
@tkba6290 Жыл бұрын
@@baronsionis6855 at Level 90 !!!!!!!!!!
@joeyisabsb1
@joeyisabsb1 Жыл бұрын
How do you just forget to bring a healer on floor 11? even if you use Zhongli you know to bring a healer for at least one side. Its just artificial struggling.
@Nvm3r0s
@Nvm3r0s Жыл бұрын
​@@joeyisabsb1 Perfectly said, just artificial struggling
@R-Ttt
@R-Ttt Жыл бұрын
Bro got way too comfortable with 7/8 characters and refuses to play anyone else 😭 it’s always either raiden team or itto team or occasionally bloom team
@spiderdude2099
@spiderdude2099 Жыл бұрын
Moga: *has every unit in the game* Also Moga: *can’t build a team without one crusty old rock man*
@lulch212
@lulch212 Жыл бұрын
CRUSTY?! HE'S GORGEOUS but yeah you're right he can't build a proper team without him
@constellationdreamlessnigh5573
@constellationdreamlessnigh5573 Жыл бұрын
That crusty old rock man is the one that pulled me to play genshin. ❤
@spiderdude2099
@spiderdude2099 Жыл бұрын
@@lulch212 I meant it more as a pun on “crust” as in the layer of the earth, but…..eh, to each their own, I’m gay, but I don’t think he’s hot at all. Actually none of the men in genshin. They all kinda suck. I’m not here for skinny no-ass-having bishounen pretty boys.
@lilani__.01
@lilani__.01 Жыл бұрын
That’s like me with Ayaka and Yoimiya 🥲
@pyrophobia133
@pyrophobia133 Жыл бұрын
bloom team is one hell of a drug
@jammjarr3359
@jammjarr3359 Жыл бұрын
"Why am I struggling on Floor 11" He says after not putting a healer in his team and thinking he'll be all fine and dandy
@routaman3758
@routaman3758 Жыл бұрын
That's the reason he doesn't know how to build a team because all he knows that wrap the characters with shield and they will be fine....... Because even when having Kokomi in the team, he kept on dying pointlessly Also he doesn't know how to use play with other characters
@KingNBubby
@KingNBubby Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: nahida’s e can one shot all three hydro blobs from the cube at the final phase at once
@iasoing4919
@iasoing4919 Жыл бұрын
Ohh i dont have her but i really did wonder why ppl werent doing rhat
@pfortunato78
@pfortunato78 Жыл бұрын
sounds risky if you scuff it though.
@kuyarence
@kuyarence Жыл бұрын
​@@pfortunato78 nah! Just one full sweep of aim and just that's it. I use her all the time against that boss and I can prove it especially when the Hypostasis 2.0 event came back.
@krGt_
@krGt_ Жыл бұрын
@@pfortunato78 i mean u just need to hold E and make a circle . how come it sounds risky =S
@MrJayslayerjay
@MrJayslayerjay Жыл бұрын
​@@krGt_ depends on where you are positioned. 1 didn't get hit because it was out of range I guess for me but it sure wasn't a problem or risky lol.
@MC-vv1mu
@MC-vv1mu Жыл бұрын
Seeing your Nahida die with Kokomi on the team with her ult completely charged hurts more than anything else in this video
@scoot-_-alert9296
@scoot-_-alert9296 Жыл бұрын
screen dmg
@hakipower1
@hakipower1 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even be suprised if Moga didn't know that Kokomis NAs and CA while in Burst heals the entire team
@heartwiire
@heartwiire Жыл бұрын
@@hakipower1 right lol
@zapdostanker
@zapdostanker Жыл бұрын
switching to kokomi would remove his fast dendro application and since he is only using 1 dendro he needs nahida on field most of the time for bloom proc's, and putting kokomi on the field is just a dps loss
@flowwy_
@flowwy_ Жыл бұрын
@@zapdostanker while you're right, dying is a bigger dps loss
@qemintae
@qemintae Жыл бұрын
for magu kenki, just be sure you're always in front of him so his back are against the wall so once he teleports to the wall he won't be teleporting anywhere else
@protagkun8859
@protagkun8859 Жыл бұрын
That's true for 80% of the time, but Kenki does have an attack in which he dashes forward, followed by an anemo slash, so he can escape that corner but that's kinda rare I guess.
@emeraly2721
@emeraly2721 Жыл бұрын
​@@protagkun8859 its anything but rare ..if you watch some more guides ..you can see some cc advise you to not push him too close to the wall or moving around him a bit to prevent him from doing it
@Menace-To-Humanity
@Menace-To-Humanity Жыл бұрын
maguu will always dash to where your camera i facing, and this includes burst animations too. but the mages will always tp to where your character is looking, and the same rule applies to the whopperflowers.
@protagkun8859
@protagkun8859 Жыл бұрын
@@emeraly2721 I suppose I'm speaking only from my experience then, cause for me it's quite rare, and it never mattered if Kenki was against the wall or not, he just dashes forward whenever he feels like it. Most of the time for me when Kenki is against the wall, he'll just do basic attacks or his big plunge.
@macey_c
@macey_c Жыл бұрын
​@Protag Kun how'd you get that percentage?
@queersona326
@queersona326 Жыл бұрын
Moga struggling with keeping Nahida alive when I don't think I saw him once use Kokomi's burst to heal his party
@aspillust
@aspillust Жыл бұрын
kokomi's burst makes her a walking statue of the seven, its so confusing to see him not take advantage of that lol
@superTowel
@superTowel Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of your issues can be solved just by understanding the enemy's mechanics. Like how to bait the hydro heralds, how to corner the magu kenki, and last but not least understanding the wenut's attack pattern.
@nathho
@nathho Жыл бұрын
Content creators can't be bothered to understand enemies. They will always try to brute force it and complain when they can't do that
@kuyarence
@kuyarence Жыл бұрын
Gladly I watch Sevy most of the time for Spiral Abyss run guides.
@MrJayslayerjay
@MrJayslayerjay Жыл бұрын
​@@nathho actually it's because they just 1 shot the bosses in the overworld so they never see any of the attacks. So then when it's in the abyss with way more health they actually see more attacks this has happened to me before lol.
@hyeongpinkz
@hyeongpinkz Жыл бұрын
​@@nathho the way xlice IMMEDIATELY came to mind
@poumyy
@poumyy Жыл бұрын
Nah hard disagree on the Welnut, even if u can knock it down if stays down for maybe 5-7 seconds, spending most of the time underground is just ugh. Maybe it’s a skill issue but I feel like they should really try keeping bosses that purposely waste time out of the abyss lol
@eveoutsider6134
@eveoutsider6134 Жыл бұрын
bro built 2 half-teams and put them on one side, then got mad that it didnt work out.....perfect showcase of being self-defeating
@joeyisabsb1
@joeyisabsb1 Жыл бұрын
He also didn't use any healers on floor 11. It wouldn't make for good content if he beats it easily so he has to create more difficulties for a more entertaining video.
@eveoutsider6134
@eveoutsider6134 Жыл бұрын
@joeyisabsb1 ye I get that....the comment was a joke...im not critically breaking down his run....this is jenshin impak....its never that deep
@thegamingnerd4
@thegamingnerd4 Жыл бұрын
Moga: I have no Hydro! Also Moga: Hasn't used Kokomi Skill or Yelan or Nilou Burst.
@kachowdah1520
@kachowdah1520 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure nahida alone on floor 11 would’ve been fine .. she can one shot all those blob things at the end with 1 skill you just have to do a full circle basically .. you could’ve probably taken yae and a healer or a different shielded instead of Sara and Tighnari
@protagkun8859
@protagkun8859 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think Moga forgets the full extent of all his characters and their capabilities, Yae sounds perfect yet she most likely never crossed his mind
@emeraly2721
@emeraly2721 Жыл бұрын
Bro went extra hard waifu mode on his own ..let him enjoy it
@nathho
@nathho Жыл бұрын
​@@protagkun8859 people really do forget how good Miko is
@mmyees1167
@mmyees1167 Жыл бұрын
bro needs a sara cleanse next
@Tx_98
@Tx_98 Жыл бұрын
Wait beating abyss without Zhongli is considered a challenge?
@tempi7021
@tempi7021 Жыл бұрын
Probably just moga tbh
@gryphey
@gryphey Жыл бұрын
Lol fr I’ve been playing zhongli less for almost 3 years
@_mako
@_mako Жыл бұрын
its not if youve never had zhongli. but it definitely is if youre used to him
@joeyisabsb1
@joeyisabsb1 Жыл бұрын
Nope, its not. Healers in this game already over-heal but im assuming this is for content so he is playing it up. The proof is in the fact that he didn't use any healers on floor 11 as if to try to make it seem a lot harder.
@matheusbianquincera3104
@matheusbianquincera3104 Жыл бұрын
he has being in zhongli (genshin crack) for a long time, let's give some leniency lololol
@loif93
@loif93 Жыл бұрын
As a Zhongli not-haver and not-wanter, I always laugh seeing people struggle without him. Geo daddy has been really spoiling you
@Zodease
@Zodease Жыл бұрын
I agree
@amanshandilya4328
@amanshandilya4328 Жыл бұрын
exactly fellow GEO CeO not haver
@lizalovesart
@lizalovesart Жыл бұрын
Same lol
@alex.-__.
@alex.-__. Жыл бұрын
what charas do you use? @Loif93
@jinougawithchocolate9329
@jinougawithchocolate9329 Жыл бұрын
I've had him since his first run and use him regularly and even I'm not this reliant on him lmao. Ig it's expected tho since I have an alt that didn't have him for over a year and still doesn't use him for abyss.
@adrianterceno38
@adrianterceno38 Жыл бұрын
It pains me to see Diona and Layla being so forgotten lol Specially Diona because she's such an incredible unit. She's a battery, EM buffer, shielder, healer and ATL buffer with Noblese and Elegy. Please use her more Moga
@Relevart9169
@Relevart9169 Жыл бұрын
Her EM does nothing, she's a cryo unit, cryo teams don't use EM
@Shadowcynder1830
@Shadowcynder1830 Жыл бұрын
@@Relevart9169 If you have her at C6, her burst gives teammates 200 EM while in it.
@Relevart9169
@Relevart9169 Жыл бұрын
@@Shadowcynder1830 ye i know, but u don't use cryo units in dendro teams which are the main ones that want EM
@oultimosamurai5579
@oultimosamurai5579 Жыл бұрын
well fridge teams exist at least
@adrianterceno38
@adrianterceno38 Жыл бұрын
@@Relevart9169 he could have essily used her in the hydro mimics floor to freeze them, shield tighnari and guve him an EM boost for more dmg
@g0gin0
@g0gin0 Жыл бұрын
Bro was so desperate for a shield he put noelle in an itto team 🤯 Zhongli really was a drug for him. Noelle was his cali sober drug
@deibu_1361
@deibu_1361 Жыл бұрын
He even had Bennett and Gorou C6 who were enough to sustain Itto.
@criccode2993
@criccode2993 Жыл бұрын
It was painful seeing moga not using yelan'sburst against wenut in his first few tries, but all's well that ends well
@jetkirby3981
@jetkirby3981 Жыл бұрын
And him not reading the game telling him it's only Swirl elements
@sittingcrowd912
@sittingcrowd912 Жыл бұрын
15:47 "I don't have any hydro dude" oh he's 100% faking it. No one is this clueless; na-uh nope."
@yurimiracle7768
@yurimiracle7768 Жыл бұрын
​@@sittingcrowd912 he meant he didn't have enough hydro to create blooms
@sittingcrowd912
@sittingcrowd912 Жыл бұрын
@@yurimiracle7768 bro he has 3 hydro units and Yelan had her burst up
@yurimiracle7768
@yurimiracle7768 Жыл бұрын
@@sittingcrowd912 that's the reason. He had yelan's burst but didn't active it so he said he doesn't have enough hydro
@kenobi_812
@kenobi_812 Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that Moga uses Zhongli as a GIANT crutch even though he really isn’t necessary
@Rachitdubey
@Rachitdubey Жыл бұрын
Finally feeling what anxiety hoyo was talking about 😂😂😂😂
@wafaay7182
@wafaay7182 Жыл бұрын
"We don't wanna cause excess anxiety to our player" ... * insert meme* Well that was a fuc*ing lie 😂
@otaku-chan4888
@otaku-chan4888 Жыл бұрын
I'm a super casual player who knows the meta in theory but doesn't have the skills or time to actually apply it to the abyss- so moga struggling is relatable to me! Of course the part where he has literally every character in the game and five star weapons/constellations isn't relatable.. but hey, that's what I get for watching a content creator. It was a fun video to watch, as usual!
@hyeongpinkz
@hyeongpinkz Жыл бұрын
ok but u know the theoretical part and just lack the skill and/or resources (chars + weapons) to execute it moga ONLY has resources due to whaling but he lacks both the theoretical knowledge AND the mechanical skill
@NoneofImportance9080
@NoneofImportance9080 Жыл бұрын
In my own experience, once you get used to not using Zhongli, you feel more acomplished. In my opinion, it's a massive sign of progress.
@PrinceUniversa
@PrinceUniversa Жыл бұрын
Same here, heck I didn't have Zhongli until his second rerun and I was still doing fairly well in the abyss. The only decent shielder I had was Diona and she carried me with both heals and a good shield. Though I suppose it cause I played Honkai and PGR more often, so dodges there are kind of a necessity xD
@mangshu21
@mangshu21 Жыл бұрын
real accomplishment is beating abyss with teams that are horribly mismatched and do not synergize.. you dont use zhongli but then u use the utterly busted hyperbloom.. i mean come on.
@simonditomasso9868
@simonditomasso9868 Жыл бұрын
@@mangshu21 sounds like a recipe for disaster 😭 the point of the game is to draft teams that synergize together
@simonditomasso9868
@simonditomasso9868 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t have zhongli until 3.0 and I can’t agree more with this. zhongli makes the game a little boring to me since you do less damage and you don’t even have to care about mechanics which is the fun of playing a game
@Bluey_g
@Bluey_g Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had Zhongli ever and I’ve been playing almost since launch (2 months after) but I’m still kinda meh at dodging
@wafaay7182
@wafaay7182 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how more crazy that bloom team would be if there was a second dendro applier and helaer (like a certain small buny character) instead of Yelan who's litteraly there just for style points 🙃
@Relevart9169
@Relevart9169 Жыл бұрын
Why would u run kokomi AND yaoyao lol. Yelan is there for her dmg and good hydro application
@wafaay7182
@wafaay7182 Жыл бұрын
@@Relevart9169 Well from how many times his nahida died obviously he needed two healer. Also, I don't know if you understand how a nilou bloom team works but the extra blooms he would generate from having a second dendro in the team would way outshine Yelan's damage contribution in this team. Also, about yelan's hydro application, in bloom teams you are better off keeping a dendro aura on the enemy while triggering blooms with hydro to generate two seeds at a time instead of only one, Nilou's ring and kokomi are all the hydro application he needs.
@Relevart9169
@Relevart9169 Жыл бұрын
@@wafaay7182 2 healers is just never a good comp no matter how u twist it, not to mention he'd need to switch to yaoyao to put out the bunny and he wasn't even doing that with kokomi's jellyfish let alone 2 at a time
@Batman.-
@Batman.- Жыл бұрын
@@wafaay7182 he died despite having two healers That doesn’t mean he needed two healers It means he needed to learn how to use his healer well, he died with nahida DESPITE Kokomis burst being up. The death was literally just cus he was trash at the game lmaoo
@KamronA
@KamronA Жыл бұрын
@@wafaay7182 He doesn't need two healers. He just needed to use the healer he had, which he wasn't doing very well. At one point when Nahida was getting wrecked and died Kokomi was at full burst just sitting there doing nothing.
@Toqrainbow
@Toqrainbow Жыл бұрын
i also love how you're CONSTANTLY calling maguu kenki masanori. this has to be the 3rd or 4th time and it's actually so funny but in a charming way
@hagarrastamnz596
@hagarrastamnz596 Жыл бұрын
the good thing about Zhongli is that he allows you to brute force a lot of things the bad thing about Zhongli is that he allows you to brute force a lot of things
@Stan-Above-All
@Stan-Above-All Жыл бұрын
Masanori will have to make his first appearance in the Spiral Abyss next patch after hearing his name so many times in this video. 🤣
@sky-zo2ml
@sky-zo2ml Жыл бұрын
next we have to force him to do a not saying masanori challenge
@bjornnilsson2941
@bjornnilsson2941 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe triple lvl 100 midnight Masanori and you have to talk to all three of them to even start the fight, all on the clock of course.
@jamiejam9976
@jamiejam9976 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnilsson2941 nah you have to do the whole quest 3 times on the clock and then they level up to lvl 300 second half of their HP bar
@simonazzz
@simonazzz Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see Moga finally learning how the game works.
@kait6451
@kait6451 Жыл бұрын
Since you're on a Zhongli cleanse I think it'd be a great time bring out Albedo for your Itto team! He can snapshot Gorou's buff and do some really good damage as the third geo slot in that team.
@barbaradesigns1774
@barbaradesigns1774 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that, he wants a shield so much that forget Albedo is a perfect match with Itto and Gorou.
@Kitzhute
@Kitzhute Жыл бұрын
Moga for future notice kokomi's e works for wenut. and kokomis e has very high range verticaly(up and down)
@insectslayer1374
@insectslayer1374 Жыл бұрын
this is so painful to watch kokomi and yelan are just chilling there with their burst up while nahida taps the worm xD dude is so stressed he keeps forgetting his characters have ults
@user-vb4ve7gy1f
@user-vb4ve7gy1f Жыл бұрын
Love seeing people struggle without shield characters. No idea how you have all units and still struggle though.
@Furina_DeFontaine-_
@Furina_DeFontaine-_ Жыл бұрын
Haven't used a shield ever since I was a xinyan main in AR 40
@enesjei
@enesjei Жыл бұрын
Because they sucks at playing genshin without shield...just like a newbie
@gryphey
@gryphey Жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing abyss without zhongli since the game launched. Kokomi works just fine
@ruruisu
@ruruisu Жыл бұрын
Kokomi is just another zhongli
@simonditomasso9868
@simonditomasso9868 Жыл бұрын
BASED kokomi on field teams are effectively immortal 😂
@gryphey
@gryphey Жыл бұрын
@@simonditomasso9868 tbh that’s true lmao
@raviolikun9389
@raviolikun9389 Жыл бұрын
@@ruruisu LITERALLY, I always have her 🥲 cosas sad
@emeraly2721
@emeraly2721 Жыл бұрын
I have both and i dont care what other ppl say lol
@noire664
@noire664 Жыл бұрын
I will just say, I really did not expect you to struggle THIS much Moga... Not going to lie this almost makes me feel like I'm an actually skilled player now, considering I do not have zhongli and play Abyss Shield-less most of the time... Your friend might've been right, a month without him will do you some good.
@midoi8161
@midoi8161 Жыл бұрын
you can knock wenut down with yelans burst pose, so you can save some time without having to charge shot and then do burst animation. it's not much but as someone who beats wenut 1 second on time it's helpful.
@a3s1r1986
@a3s1r1986 Жыл бұрын
For floor 11 I took Yaoyao into floor 11 instead of my other healers for chamber 2 and 3. Was fun watching the mimics and Hypo make bloom happen for themselves.
@kse2724
@kse2724 Жыл бұрын
17:30 anemo can't swirl dendro and geo, so those elements won't work on those bubbles
@aanyasrivastava9652
@aanyasrivastava9652 Жыл бұрын
Bro is so addicted to Zhongli that he forgot that Bloom damages the active character too. He really took a dendro team with NO healers to a floor with all hydro enemies and really except he won't die instantly
@ArtDxD
@ArtDxD Жыл бұрын
Let me introduce one of the newest 4 stars we have gotten yao yao she is a really goof healer and a decent dendro applyer hope this helps :3
@baronsionis6855
@baronsionis6855 Жыл бұрын
It won't help. His mind is stuck in a pre-dendro meta and his insistence to put Sara of all units in that Raiden Tighnari comp proves it.
@Relevart9169
@Relevart9169 Жыл бұрын
​@@baronsionis6855 "Raiden Tighnari team" just shouldn't even be said lmao
@aspillust
@aspillust Жыл бұрын
@@Relevart9169 i mean it's not terrible, raiden can trigger spread and give him energy, and use her burst every once in a while. there's probably better options but the pure fact that she's electro and can farm energy makes her work relatively well.
@divinechayde
@divinechayde Жыл бұрын
@@baronsionis6855 exactly I like the Sara representation but omg put her back in the locker if that's the team he constantly chooses lol
@KuroLionheart
@KuroLionheart Жыл бұрын
This was extremely painful to watch lol. It's like Moga just forgets everything about how the game works once Zhongli is not there.
@senu.
@senu. Жыл бұрын
see you take zhongli out and suddenly the abyss is a big challenge. it's all in your head I swear 😭😭 good luck for the next abyss run lmao
@kaylafoxx41
@kaylafoxx41 Жыл бұрын
The only thing in your head is damage damage damage instead of thinking about synergy and survivability. Zhongli isn't necessary. Learn to dodge, have a healer for backup. You gotta learn enemy attack patterns. Stop using shields entirely until you can survive normal stuff.
@corigigs
@corigigs Жыл бұрын
here’s some abyss teams that don’t rely on zhongli: yelan w/ sunfire jean, miko hyper carry w/ dmc, Alhaitham/miko aggravate/quicken, Alhaitham hyper bloom, hu tao double hydro double pyro, hu tao triple hydro, kaeya melt/reverse melt, ayaka freeze (2 options ayaka w/ mona or ayaka w/ koko). I’ve tested all these teams this abyss and had a lot of fun :))
@Likier86
@Likier86 Жыл бұрын
That was one of the most entertaining video on the channel. I'm curious about your thoughts after a month and more relatable content is always welcome.
@Rachitdubey
@Rachitdubey Жыл бұрын
Yes Moga Yao yao is almost a must for Superbloom team
@idkuhhhhhhhhh
@idkuhhhhhhhhh Жыл бұрын
These types of videos always take away my motivation to do abyss😁
@loungeshit
@loungeshit Жыл бұрын
been playing since venti 1st rerun and never beat floor 12 bruh
@SmartyPoohBear
@SmartyPoohBear Жыл бұрын
Just build a rational team and a nahida hyperbloom team.
@scoot-_-alert9296
@scoot-_-alert9296 Жыл бұрын
@@loungeshit i clear abyss pretty often but i cant get 9 stars on the 12th floor im missing a star on each chamber 😢
@caroisoutofline
@caroisoutofline Жыл бұрын
@@loungeshit do you want to?
@cryimp4571
@cryimp4571 Жыл бұрын
Dw, he has skill issue. Team bulding that all u need tbh. Bloom teams, freeze team, national, double hydro team are always work in any abyss
@autobee23
@autobee23 Жыл бұрын
I had Zhongli since 2022, and I still dodge attacks when his shield is up because I’m just so use to dodging a lot…😅
@hannah10949
@hannah10949 Жыл бұрын
Team-building issues aside (why would you neglect to bring a defensive unit in a team which creates dendro cores that can hurt you??), I think if Moga understood the different characters and the enemies' AI a little bit more this mightve been a lot less painful.
@ssslawz
@ssslawz Жыл бұрын
It's always nice to be reminded that money cant buy ability/skill. Thanks for that.
@jetkirby3981
@jetkirby3981 Жыл бұрын
For real this was a bit painful
@FinnianRowland
@FinnianRowland Жыл бұрын
“OH MY GOD WHAT ARE THESE DUDES DOING?! I CANT EVEN MOVE!” This. This Moga. You’re so quick to blame the enemies when you’re the one that messed up in the first place. So many flaws in your game play or style or whatever. Genshin Impact is a strategy game, not spam skills and do big damage and hope to win game.
@marvolo.5761
@marvolo.5761 Жыл бұрын
Bro is struggling with the abyss while having all of the characters
@starsXX_kw
@starsXX_kw Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Nahida here 😭
@kuyarence
@kuyarence Жыл бұрын
I even play on mobile yet I don't struggle like this even without using Zhongli. Guess team building is definitely his main problem here, struggling without using Zhongli in almost any team he plays. It hurts me to not see Albedo in his Itto Team despite having him and chose Noelle instead just because of the shield yet Bennett & C4 Gorou can survive him enough. Another thing is that he probably forgot picking Kazuha then use other DPS or even like Xiangling in this video especially against those Frostarm Lawachurls.
@Sunhwk
@Sunhwk Жыл бұрын
Team building and a tad bit of game knowledge too. 😅 He could've used Raiden National on first half of floor 12 and beat those frost lawachurls so much faster - giving his second team so much more time. I'll give him that Wenut is a big pain in the ass bc it's pattern can be so random, but Magu Kenki can easily be manipulated by aiming your camera to the staircase/wall, forcing him to not teleport everywhere. He really got too much dependent on Zhongli and onga boonga everything atp.
@amnos180188
@amnos180188 Жыл бұрын
Nahh I used ZL all the time back then and still managed to 36* abyss w/o him. Was on mobile too. Only switched to controller recently. I think the issue here isn't " him being used to using ZL." It's more to lack of knowledge abt enemies mechanics and teams.
@kuyarence
@kuyarence Жыл бұрын
@@amnos180188 exactly
@enesjei
@enesjei Жыл бұрын
@@amnos180188he issue is actually him isn't used to play without john lee on certain teams. It's painful to see nahida soloing wenut when yelan and kokomi have their burst ready. He knows the knowledge but once he cannot use his favorite tools on practice, he's suddenly forgot those knowledges.
@amnos180188
@amnos180188 Жыл бұрын
@@enesjei when you have ZL, you don't need to learn enemies mechanics because there is no point in dodging. Hence why i said he do not have knowledge of the enemies mechanics nor fully understand the characters skills. If you know, whether you're used to using ZL or not, you will still be able to do it if you know the characters well. Hence why i said it's not really "using ZL too much" issue. It's the lack of understanding the mechanics and the characters. I mean there's nothing wrong in that. You play how you wanna play I guess. If he likes using ZL in his team then go ahead. It's the ppl with superiority issue that is annoying imo. The 'I don't use ZL and I can still beat abyss' brag. Or complaining abt the game is hard when you just do not want to learn the mechanics or characters' skills lol
@pumpkinspica9163
@pumpkinspica9163 Жыл бұрын
I think a big problem aswell not only with you being too uses to having zhongli is that you never learned any attack patterns of enemies or bosses. The hydro hypostasis fight was always like that and you waited to long at the start for your set up, and it got downed again because the hydro slime blew up in its vacinity. I think a video where you learn attack patterns for bosses would be cool, and good for your play overall.
@keaganvaldez24
@keaganvaldez24 Жыл бұрын
Jesus, there's a lot of characters that came out now and still stuck with zhongli??
@andr0zzsenpai
@andr0zzsenpai Жыл бұрын
Bro, his inability to make good team comps after all this time is kind of infuriating 😭 if you see the water mobs, just bring cryo units, you won't even get hit.
@ntwrklv
@ntwrklv Жыл бұрын
it's always funny watching him struggle without zhongli as someone who doesn't like using shields. healers > shielders but even then i don't use healers that much either lol
@Hue_Marlon
@Hue_Marlon Жыл бұрын
"The rolling bullbeep/beepholes" oh my god i love this beep and i do not even care where it is placed but i love it
@mochammadzulfikaraditya6078
@mochammadzulfikaraditya6078 Жыл бұрын
Seeing C3 Nahida died multiple times (although having kokomi in the parties at fl12) is enough to make me cry 😢
@tswinteyru5812
@tswinteyru5812 Жыл бұрын
Yup, seeing his C3 Nahida both struggle and die so much was as painful as that guy who converted his primos to standard fates instead of intertwined fates 💀
@ew2dr
@ew2dr Жыл бұрын
i love how you just keep retrying floor 11 instead of changing the team
@Farhan-tl6xm
@Farhan-tl6xm Жыл бұрын
You can scan every hypostasis slime with nahida
@sasakimon
@sasakimon Жыл бұрын
"I do damage when he's not down. I dont get it" i think its because you only use yelan's burst when that boss is flying😬
@jose-ce4ph
@jose-ce4ph Жыл бұрын
Zhongli doesn't just stop incoming damage, he also stops Moga from losing his mind
@mubrek236
@mubrek236 Жыл бұрын
Nahida died so much to the point that hoyo will prob give you a 5 upgrade HP artifact
@pankechii_
@pankechii_ Жыл бұрын
bros unironically trying to swirl dendro
@SammyyLuv
@SammyyLuv Жыл бұрын
The audible sound of you smashing the 2 key was hella relatable as a former noelle main lmao
@Custmzir
@Custmzir Жыл бұрын
As someone who used to have zhongli and used him on every single domain and abyss run since I got him I feel proud to say that I'm really good at dodging compared to moga
@theshard5697
@theshard5697 Жыл бұрын
he is trying to... swirl... dendro... on the wenut? ☠️
@xyozeequppee9861
@xyozeequppee9861 Жыл бұрын
Can you just stop complaining about everything, it's literally your skill issue problem. Your characters all are very strong already
@nora.c
@nora.c Жыл бұрын
as a player who doesn't rely on zhongli, this video is painful moga, other shielders exist (diona, thoma, layla) [and healers, you were really making yourself struggle in floor 11 with no healers second half] and also, for your geo team first half, you shouldn't use both noelle and itto. choose one and then throw albedo (or someone else) in for more geo particles. running a dual dps team rarely works well (gorou and bennett heal so you wouldve been fine with just itto gorou bennett albedo) and don't forget to use nahida's skill!!! you got this, hopefully april will be a period of enlightenment for you 🙏🙌
@shapoosi2684
@shapoosi2684 Жыл бұрын
Not only does he not know how to dodge, he also does not pay attention to the HP bar of characters XD
@diegobernal4267
@diegobernal4267 Жыл бұрын
FUN FACT!!: healers exist in the game and you can use them in your team! still need to learn how to dodge tho
@Mz1ri
@Mz1ri Жыл бұрын
Here's a tip against maguu kenki always Try to hit him and there is a wall in front of you because maguu kenki back dashing not teleporting. So if he tried to back dash he can't because there's a wall behind him.
@dink174
@dink174 Жыл бұрын
For the hydro cube, i would recommend taking the heal from the light blue hydro slime as he spits it out to the hydro cube, it heals your active character rather than healing the hydro cube
@viennymaclin5989
@viennymaclin5989 Жыл бұрын
After the one month of not using zhongli try not use zhongli too much to get better at dodging again. Also try to build a team that is not center around zhongli with big shield, try using a team without a healer my team hyperbloom only has xq as a healer that doesn't heal that much but It help me get better at dodging
@rockers1025
@rockers1025 Жыл бұрын
Moga: It's okay, we don't need ZhongLi, we don't use ZhongLi. Diona and other shielders: 👁👄👁
@entice-6886
@entice-6886 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why it oddly feels satisfying for the people who rely on zhongli so much getting beaten up without his shield 😅
@vin2164
@vin2164 Жыл бұрын
i want zhongli for my yoimiya, but im worried my dodging skills will become non existent lmao
@jinougawithchocolate9329
@jinougawithchocolate9329 Жыл бұрын
Well you can only have one half with Zhongli so you still need to dodge sometimes. And Yoimiya is one of the characters that are just annoying to play without a shield.
@mangshu21
@mangshu21 Жыл бұрын
dont so that tro yourself..just get zhongli or use tankfei
@Thomsn_Gazelle
@Thomsn_Gazelle Жыл бұрын
If you don't use him in every team you make and only for Yoimiya in Abyss, nothing should happen
@emeraly2721
@emeraly2721 Жыл бұрын
He isnt the only shielder ..dont feel bad for using shield characters ..enjoy the game how you want it
@emxryld
@emxryld Жыл бұрын
i use diona, and shes fine. especially at c6 you get a em boost and you have heals plus some melts.
@pitblackbird3169
@pitblackbird3169 Жыл бұрын
On this episode of “Moga Forgets Healers exist”
@miseryandamity
@miseryandamity Жыл бұрын
How painful to watch should this be? Moga: yes
@unubilegbaasanjav333
@unubilegbaasanjav333 Жыл бұрын
Moga…. its no zhongli challenge… you can use healers…. wheres bennet jean kokomi
@JosepiThe13th
@JosepiThe13th Жыл бұрын
If you’re struggling to beat Abyss without Zhongli, then having him won’t change much. In fact, it’ll just make you perform even worse. I’m honestly glad you’re doing this challenge, because you NEED to stop relying on Zhongli. Hell, I’d even go so far as to say you should make it no shields at all.
@alitopeeto
@alitopeeto Жыл бұрын
tbh i expected moga to be better at the game considering how much time and money hes spent on it💀
@hyeongpinkz
@hyeongpinkz Жыл бұрын
ignoring the fact that he cannot play without zhongli, WHY DOES HE KEEP USING TIGHNARI W SARA OH MY FUCKING GOD
@shaadow3242
@shaadow3242 Жыл бұрын
Knowing you’ll have another abyss rotation without zhongli, here’s some advice, learn enemy attack patterns and learn to use bursts to give yourself i-frames
@zafkeil_27290
@zafkeil_27290 Жыл бұрын
It's Noelle's Atk, you can't swap two other characters if she is attacking or in the middle of Atk animation including charger Atk. You can dash to avoid.
@Akilla02
@Akilla02 Жыл бұрын
I recommend using those other...what +30 characters 😅
@koltenweber805
@koltenweber805 Жыл бұрын
Our boi crutchin so hard on ZL he forgor how to build teams
@QuincyYhwach.
@QuincyYhwach. Жыл бұрын
Zhongli be laughing sipping his osmanthus wine while watching your video 😂😂💔
@milo_dinosaw8202
@milo_dinosaw8202 Жыл бұрын
for the wenut, instead of waiting for its bubble thing to come up... you should use yelan and nahida burst first to that you can get more dmg when its down
@zxa03
@zxa03 Жыл бұрын
Bro has all the 5* stars in the game and still struggling 😭
@matchamusume6311
@matchamusume6311 Жыл бұрын
Cryo and even Pyro is a lot better on the second half of Floor 11 for the oceanid animals. I just used Mono Cryo with Ganyu, Shenhe, Diona, and Chongyun. Also for the Wenut, I like using Hyperbloom. I struggled a lot until I started adding Tighnari to my team. It saves so much time not having to run around too much. Also Raiden's E can bring the Wenut down quick too. My team was Raiden, Tighnari, Nahida, and Barbara and I was able to 36* pretty easily. I did have to retry maybe around 3-4 times but it goes much faster with low-cooldown skills. And by the way, I play on mobile so there is more hope for y'all PC and PS4 players.
@dutudagreat9518
@dutudagreat9518 Жыл бұрын
Bro u could've just used a freeze team and you could've avoided all of that shit in floor 11
@mochiria
@mochiria Жыл бұрын
you could've just use a cryo team on floor 1, less dmg bcos enemies are just frozen
@jayden911garbage9
@jayden911garbage9 Жыл бұрын
he just tried to infuse dendro with anemo while fighting the wenut
@AndrewJasonQuan
@AndrewJasonQuan Жыл бұрын
I managed to 36 star the abyss this round after falling last cycle! The difference was a Flower of Paradise Lost set on Shinobu and Barbara splashing dendro cores on the Wenut. Barbara 行くよつ!
@maple1748
@maple1748 Жыл бұрын
There are other shielders that slot into good teams other than zhongli you know, like diona and thoma.
@kuyarence
@kuyarence Жыл бұрын
Or even Layla actually
@vincikeeper1581
@vincikeeper1581 Жыл бұрын
What's good about them, is they activate that juicy resonance.
@maple1748
@maple1748 Жыл бұрын
@@vincikeeper1581 True, cryo and pyro resonance are both amazing, if i want to run kazu on my hutao team i usually run thoma to apply pyro and shield, the x2 pyro resonance is an extra juicy bonus.
@vincikeeper1581
@vincikeeper1581 Жыл бұрын
@@maple1748 this! Thoma + Hu Tao with Yelan + Xingqiu is so good, more hp, more damage for hu tao and yelan, also buffier thoma's shield and Xingqiu's heal gets better. Also, Xiao+Faruzan, Albedo+Zhongli or Xiao+Faruzan, Thoma+Bennet. The only time when anemo and geo characters can be in the same team, since they don't need reactions and their resonance buffs ultimately xiao.
@ulrikruby
@ulrikruby Жыл бұрын
For the bountiful core team, remember to use Nahida E for extra EM.
@berry3199
@berry3199 Жыл бұрын
you use zhongli because his shield is strong. i use zhongli because i am madly in love with him. we are not the same.
@emeraly2721
@emeraly2721 Жыл бұрын
And i used zhongli becoz his son came to me for some reason ..i just wanted a tankfei
@kuyarence
@kuyarence Жыл бұрын
I use Zhongli mainly because of his meteor animation (I even crowned his burst)
@Biohacker777
@Biohacker777 Жыл бұрын
Zhongli(Ge-0 d4d) is an addictive substance that been on the market since 1.5 and have a strong grip on the community, side effects of constant usage consist of: inability to dodge, stunted creativity in team building, skill issues escalate while using a healer, anxiety may present after lack of general usage
@salvadorzafran7112
@salvadorzafran7112 Жыл бұрын
Asa non zhongli haver, investments on your healers is a must 👍
@dreamypoohh
@dreamypoohh Жыл бұрын
Tip: Dehya is really good for abyss 11 2 2 she can reduce the dmg taken and atk interruption
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