No, Billlie's Tsuki is not the standard of stage presence!

[@everglowup]

Stream Haram's facecam kzbin.info/www/bejne/hae7m4ukpriGnNk

[@mimanshatiwari3783]

clicking on this was a good decision. I'm enlightened.

[@kpoplistener1111]

I also think Tsuki's other secret weapon is how clean her moves are. Like I watched Haram's fancams and I commend her awesome facial expressions but the first time I watched the first thing I noticed, (on every other members fancam too) is that her dancing was not as sharp and attractive as Tsuki's. You see Tsuki's dancing is so sharp and clean that it's almost robotic. Combined with her facial expressions it gives a flavour that can't be found in other fancams.

[@Ilyasdahmany]

Can u please do loona next

[@솔-s1m]

[SEGUE] I'm so sorry to talk about another idol whilst talking about specific idols on the vid but... I know this is repetitive coming from your past live stream but if your interest is piqued, can you pls do a short/in-depth analysis on TO1 Kyungho's stage presence? I noticed that he's one of the few idols that understands how to utilize their posture as a means to embody an aura or 'feel' congruent to the song's concept and lyricism that makes his performances have a lyrical vibe to it. If you want to take a deeper look to his performances, I suggest you to look at his 'Count 1, 2' and 'Son of Beast' fancam, 'Hard Carry' fancam and 'Criminal' cover performance. I'm interested on what u think about his stage presence.

[@ssj-rose4572]

So when are you going to make a video so we can see your stage presences since your so good and know so much about it I mean making a 20 minute video attacking somebody who better than you in ever way

[@mymoonbebe7450]

The only thing I'd like people to understand is that Tsuki's facial expressions are part of the concept of the song. If you see the other members fancams, they're doing those fast changing expressions as well. The exaggerated facial expressions are part of THIS CONCEPT. If you go to previous Tsuki fancams she's not doing those expressions because it's not part of the concept. It's really impressive the ability Tsuki has for a performance like Gingamingayo, but it's not like she's going to do it EVERY TIME and tbh, it shouldn't be the standard for others either... stage presence is NOT just facial expressions, it's a combination of a lot of factors. So NO, if an idol is not changing expressions every 2 seconds matching the lyrics of the song it doesn't mean they don't have stage presence, people need to understand that it would be CRINGY for idols to do this if it's not part of a concept.

[@bowwie6]

Oh yes. I'm kinda concerned about the next comeback - what if Tsuki doesn't do her facial expressions similarly to Gingamingayo, will people be disappointed? I feel that there will be this kind of pressure on her, even though as you said, the facial expressions were connected with the concept.

[@tootsipop]

right? as soon as she went viral i was afraid she will feel presured to do the overexagerated expressions for everything outside the song...and i was right, when she did the Tomboy challenge with Gidle...her facial expresions felt weird and out of place

[@victoriailnytska7463]

Finally someone said it! Thank you!

[@thequarrywoman1]

The entire point of those facial expressions is to BE UNSETTLING. Billlie's whole concept and lore is that something is wrong and you cant quite pinpoint what or why. its genius that they were able to transmit that in the choreo, to match so well the offputting/mysterious vibes that come in the music with the melody and the lyrics

[@melekbasri1575]

@@bowwie6 This is her job, to be an idol, not to satisfy all people (something impossible...), If people feel disappointed when they realize she doesn't do the same exaggerated expressions, then they was following her just because of that, not because they really like her. People come and go, real fans will stay there always

[@dzuhhh]

Tsuki is the best in gingamingayo but looking back at ringring, she's nice but not as great as she's in gingamingayo. Gingamingayo itself means strange/weird (i think) and tsuki done it really really great Yet if she do other concepts, it's too early to judge her whether she would be good or not, or if other idols do gingamingayo who have great Stage Presence , we still aren't sure if they will be as great as tsuki or surpass her or failed to do it. I hope if someone read this, you could understand it😅

[@deanxzayn1408]

That just means she can change herself with the concept. All i can say is she’s good.

[@deadinside-jk]

Wait your username and your pfp i get the reference

[@cosmicwaddles9971]

I actually think there’s a recent video out where she said “I’m actually not good at expressions so I practiced a lot” I think she also said all the members practiced a lot and helped each other. Billlie as a group I whole is amazing so far. I’m glad she got attention though

[@dzuhhh]

@@cosmicwaddles9971 it's from this really really fun video kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4PZcqdnjM1rndE. Blackpunk in your A.I🤣

[@cosmicwaddles9971]

@@dzuhhh ooh I didn’t see this one but thanks for sending this I’ll definitely check it out. The one I saw she was at. A hair salon or a hair dresser something like that and she had said it when he complimented her on her viral accomplishment hehe

[@kpoplistener1111]

I also think Tsuki's other secret weapon is how clean her moves are. Like I watched Haram's fancams and I commend her awesome facial expressions but the first time I watched the first thing I noticed, (on every other members fancam too) is that her dancing was not as sharp and attractive as Tsuki's. You see Tsuki's dancing is so sharp and clean that it's almost robotic. Combined with her facial expressions it gives a flavour that can't be found in other fancams.

[@kriellelanely8159]

Yeah it's not the facial expressions themselves, but the combination of facial expressions and sharp dance moves that captivated people

[@dione2610]

I think she is the main dancer of the group, not 100% sure tho

[@CrystalLight000]

It's the fact that she has clean body coordinations and alignment and basically perfect musicality, which all make her moves look clean and sharp

[@grachi0matilda]

@@dione2610 I think there is another main dancer but yeah, she's definitely a main dancer

[@angelinebena9675]

Totally agree

[@kpoplistener1111]

Tsuki herself said in an interview that she felt she didn't give enough in ring x ring era so she practiced hard on her expressions for gingamingayo

[@amandab8433]

She nailed it 😁

[@chaermonie]

But Working hard doesn't equally mean better or good. Her stage presence was good in ringxring.

[@justahuman9273]

It paid off! 😊

[@whatreallymatters571]

@@chaermonie That depends on who you ask, she personally felt that working harder to better portray the concept through the facial expressions made her performance more pleasing and that's her thoughts and yes in most cases working hard at something yields better results then had you not worked hard for it.

[@fisticuffs12]

i think one thing that helps tsuki keep stans is that she's also an excellent dancer. it's a huge advantage, not only are her moves satisfying to watch, but she also gets highlights. i think this is a pretty clear pattern in the most watched idols, it's usually the main dancer

[@momomomo__]

I think that it's not necessarily the fact that she's an incredible dancer (which she is), but it's what stands out in her incredible dancing. her movements are clear and she has near perfect musicality, which makes her moves match the song and the facial expressions perfectly and without ever missing a beat. when you see non main dancers go viral, it's because they also have great musicality, even if they aren't the best dancers in other aspects. it makes the performances that much more entertaining and captivating, since it's satisfying to watch.

[@momomomo__]

@@katgreer6113 it's essentially just the innate ability to be good at musical things. if we're talking about dancing, think maybe having near perfect rythmn, being able to be perfectly on beat, having the ability to just pull attention to you when you're performing and things of the sort. these can be taught, however some people are just born with that sort of talent, and when you put years of training on top of that, you get performers like tsuki, who are extremely entertaining to watch

[@Pain-yx1ri]

Honestly Billie and purple kiss are some of the most talented girl groups right now. So well rounded in all aspects ..

[@ThisUserPassedAway]

Yes Purple Kiss deserves the attention as well! memeM was so good and the girls are seriously underrated. I’m glad smaller groups are managing to get some popularity in this ocean of girls groups.

[@reiiyalwayswithpixy]

And Pixy too 🥺 Dia and Ella is soo good

[@ChloeBx]

@@reiiyalwayswithpixy yess Pixy are amazing ❤

[@Pain-yx1ri]

@@reiiyalwayswithpixy yes pixy is great!! I need to check them out! Feel free to drop more talented group under the replies here

[@oneout5143]

@@deadpool22335 my goodness who pissed in your cereal this morning?!

[@alfewenxiao]

Shes definitely one of a kind but shes not the standard if anything its difficult to put ONE idol as one especially because different idols have different styles of performing

[@alfewenxiao]

Also haram should never bring back her bangs its destroying her presence

[@deobijungs]

in case of moon sua, i think her BIGGEST weapon is her training time. she has been training for more than 10 years, so she doesn't look like a "rookie performer" (at least for me!) it's insane how good of a performer she is, specially if you see that she's the only billlie member without a dance line position.

[@moonchilllddd6014]

I mean come on she was on Future 2ne1 n was one of YG's best trainee so no wonder she is so good

[@deobijungs]

@@moonchilllddd6014 yeah! she's a 12 year old trainee, no wonder why she's so professional and doesn't look like a rookie

[@lychie__]

as a former theater performer, i think part of what makes Tsuki being currently used as the face of “stage presence” is because her facial expressions (emphasis on this one) is somewhat on the middle ground. It is not too “animated” but it is also not too subtle. Though this isn’t the case for almost all of her performance as there are some that can be considered as a bit “theatrical” (which isn’t a hate btw), majority of the time her facial expressions have found a point where it is not too underwhelming for the viewers or too off-putting (of course, this one is subjective. But i personally never found her facial expressions as too much). Also, i think what makes her stand out is because with the whole concept of their comeback, her facial expressions and overall vibes somehow is capturing because it makes you feel that she is acting whatever theme (story) there might be on the song. [i’m not sure if i am even explaining it properly but i can’t seem to properly execute my thoughts so leave it as it is]. Overall, for this 4th gen of Kpop, I would say that Billlie is on the top-tier list of groups that are killing it on the part of stage presence and overall execution of any performances (do note i said the group and not just one member because all members have a great stage presence). I honestly do hope that their company can use Tsuki’s popularity by taking the right direction in promoting Billlie on both SK and internationally by putting them on the spotlight whatever chance/opportunity they are given rather than suddenly just putting them on the basement (ex.: cherry bullet [they are quite known at the SK because of their debut song but FNC, of course, did not handled them well)

[@beomblast]

I agree and I would like to make a correction, it's Billlie not Billie, their has three l's

[@universalsubliminals1174]

it's way too animated in my opinion

[@lunarialoonatic]

@@universalsubliminals1174 I think so too… I think the facials are fitting for the concept but some performances are a little much. Idk.

[@lychie__]

@@lunarialoonatic of course, i’m not going to have a debate about her facial expressions (or even stage presence) because really, it is all up to our own conclusion of it. Maybe I can’t say that it’s too animated because theater almost made me see this kind of performance as somewhat normal (“exaggeration” > subtle is the “norm” in theater).

[@absolutelynotellen]

Aside from discussing Tsuki's stage presence, hello fellow theater person!

[@ruuu_rooo1382]

No, she's not the standard. But I would say she's the representation of a really good way of interpreting a certain concept.

[@gunny4394]

People want your opinion because you don't just have opinions, you usually spit facts and and actual stuff which makes sense and everything you say has an actual reason behind it.

[@lunamindin297]

Exactly

[@lechatnoir482]

Yes even if you disagree, you can understand her reasoning

[@gunny4394]

@@lazyhummingbird see, she doesn't blatantly hate anything, she just tells what their down points are. Like she'll go "Yeah that's great *but* -" As I said, she speaks with logic and that's enough to convince us that's it's right.

[@lazyhummingbird]

@@gunny4394 yep, that's what I meant! I'm such a fan of how she makes her 'debatable' opinions sound reasonable. She's awesome that way

[@gunny4394]

@@lazyhummingbird agreed, queen behaviors 🤭

[@baby.blue_b]

Yes, I agree. Tsuki has good stage presence and satisfying expressions, but that doesn't mean that she is already the standard. There are some idols who have better stage presence than her, plus idols have different stage presence and archetypes so..

[@KingstonTiger]

exactly! Just because of her facial expressions and awesome stage charisma doesn't actually mean she's the standard, as you said.

[@taengoonim]

I don't get people who think that facial expression equates stage presence

[@sarangfied]

YEESSSS

[@strawberriesforchoerry1454]

@@taengoonim it can help but it's not everything, like CL has good stage presence but she doesn't has that many change of expression

[@wiztiny9910]

@@taengoonim how does it not? if you suck at facial expressions then you sure as hell dont got stage presence.

[@cherrichan]

What I hate about this discourse is that just because Tsuki did a great job with her performance and went viral for being talented and charismatic, now everyone is obsessed with saying she's "not that great" or "overdoing it". When your faves go viral from their stage presence alone, then come back and talk to me about criticisms of Tsuki.

[@deobijungs]

i think she has versatility tbh. you can see it in their predebut covers, she always caught my attention. maybe this is just my opinion? but tsuki has shown some versatility. ofc she is still just a rookie, and yes it's still to young in the industry to be held those titles, but i personally think she has some versatility.

[@thegoodkindofweirdo]

I don't think she practices just to gain the right facial expressions and I don't think the title "standard of facial expressions" needs to be taken off from her either. She HAS versatility from the get-go as she is naturally expressive, and that is seen in her interviews and the way she talks. I think she "studies" to check if her expressions match the concept, but I believe that her *variety* of expressions is what sets apart from other idols we've seen--but other members of Billlie are also just as good. I believe Billlie will shine in the future because of this.

[@muichirotokitotokito6819]

i think the reasons tsuki went viral instead of the others is bc the concept suits her aura !!!! its girly cute colorful so her doing that many faical expression worked soooooo well with the song and dance and her confidence is matching

[@ThisUserPassedAway]

Glad you’re talking about this topic! I’m tired of Tsuki stans using her to attack other groups! Don’t get me wrong, she’s extra talented (and the rest of the group too!) but this concept is super niche and would not fit all groups! Can’t wait to hear your opinions :3

[@ThisUserPassedAway]

I finished watching and honestly, you offered so much more than I expected with that video and that’s knowing you always offer quality content! I went here expecting your opinion on the matter and I left with legit knowledge I didn’t have despite having been a kpop fan for several years. I really love the comprehensive editing and the clarity of your explanations. The fact you ranked them not only based on your preferences but also with real criteria is amazing. I’m saying it again, but your a gem in the kpop community! Thank you.

[@dal11su]

people who actually use tsuki to drag other idols don't even stan her or billlie

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@dal11su mirae rn like bruh why can’t they stay out of it it’s not about the fans

[@xcore914]

Just to clarify it's not Tsuki's fans attacking others, its mostly non-fans using her to hate on other idols

[@loryjo7]

tsuki solo stans* eves are not toxic

[@breadpitt4677]

Tsuki is a great performer but what I dislike is when ppl token stan her to drag others

[@dragonsazor799]

And most of those haters doesn't even know other Billlie's members

[@dallunatic]

I think a thing you didn't mention is the fact that the girls all gained a lot confidence since debut. The improvement between Ring x Ring and Snowy Night was ENORMOUS even though it was a month after their debut, but then with GingaMinga Yo, it got so much louder and in your face that people caught onto Billlie's stage presence. They got used to the stage, and got a bit more confidence, even with the fact the they had to postpone some stages, cancel the showcase and all because of some of the members got sick. They never gave up, and came back with more smiles than ever. I love them so much, their discography is perfect for now, not a single pass, all around their lore and concept. I sure hope people will see with their next comeback that all the members have something to shine with. BTW, I agree with Siyeon being a covert performer on stage, but once you put her in a dance room, she goes HAAARD, like check the 1million dance practices. Is it still covert-like ? (it's a genuine question btw)

[@Avi.joyyy12]

When Tsuki learns to be more versatile with her stage presence, she will definitely become one of the best idols to look up to for stage presence.

[@beckyjohnston6456]

Thank you for the video and for sharing Haram's fancam; I'm pretty much obsessed with her facial expression/ movement switch from the laugh into the last part of the song. She's amazing.

[@chaeripie888]

Idk. I love her expressions and she’s so good. The problem is people using it as a standard because everyone’s stage presence varies based on style. Calling it a standard is just .., no. She’s just extra good.

[@willdhaggard]

I find that Moon SuA and Tsuki immediately stand out for people who are first getting to know Billlie, but the more you watch them the more you come to recognize what Haram and Sheon are bringing to the group (I'm especially glad you pointed out Sheon's versatility). I'd also say that Siyoon has the kind of charisma that sneaks up on you. Suhyeon and Haruna are also great--it's just that, at least for me, they slot more easily into the more standard expectation for the less showy main vocal and cute maknae roles (respectively).

[@jazzam5653]

To me I like Suhyeon’s stage presence the best. She always gives what’s needed

[@willdhaggard]

@@jazzam5653 I find she doesn't pop quite as much as several of the other members for me, but she's still a great performer and, imo, is needed to ground the group's performances. Plus: the other members have learned a lot of their acting from her!

[@xmanarx2614]

for me it was Haram, but to my surprise she wasn't the most popular

[@bunbungabriel]

I would love to hear your thoughts on Purple Kiss's stage presence in the future! Personally I think Dosie, Go Eun, Swan and Chaein have amazing stage presence

[@skylerk126]

ireh??

[@bunbungabriel]

@@skylerk126 I said personally. IMO Ireh, Yuki and Jieun don't have as much stage presence as the ones I listed

[@skylerk126]

@@bunbungabriel really? most people would even say ireh is “extra” or “overdoing it” lol…

[@peonylarkspur645]

@@bunbungabriel idk jieun has moments where she'll steal my attention from whoever the camera's focused on and ireh's got great facials

[@stafeleez]

I love how thoroughly researched this video is! I can tell you put alot of effort in this analysis. Thank you so much for this!

[@ChloeBx]

I'm happy to see you analysing her She's not the standard yet, but in my opinion her expressions are truly amazing, Billlie in general really embodied the concept which these days is not seen all the time I like the way you categorised performers too, it's interesting, complete and detailed enough love it ! Cheryl fighting

[@SYWOODZ]

I haven't seen your other stage presence videos so this is really interesting for me! And it's great I got the concept right away, you explain very well :D

[@ONLY1JAYJAY]

for the concept that billie was doing for this song, it’s absolutely perfect, however, if she did this in any other concept it would be VERY out of place. like imagine if she did this during ringxring era, the whole table would be turned on her

[@ChloeBx]

I think she will be able to continue having great expressions, she practices so i guess she will be able to sustain them and improve

[@CelesteMiyana]

Yessss Haram my bias! She is so underrated! I am actually glad that Tsuki has gone viral, because one, she deserves it, and two, it will hopefully bring more attention to the other girls.

[@jessicaye8982]

i think maybe a better way to phrase it is tsuki in gingamingayo is how a idol should deal with a concept

[@tkcx3]

idols with great stage presence *in my opinion*: - Ateez San & Seonghwa - Hyolyn - G-Idle Minnie & Soyeon - NCT Taeyong, Yuta & Ten - Everglow Mia - f(x) Luna - The Boys Juyeon - LOONA Heejin & Olivia Hye - BTS Jungkook, Jimin & Jhope - Blackpink Jennie & Lisa - Red Velvet Seulgi - BAP Zelo - ONF Hyojin - Golden Child Y - Mamamoo Hwasa

[@joey1909]

Yes my girl luna everyone forget how good performer/vocalist she is

[@brunettebrbie16]

lol

[@_Eunoia_]

Purple Kiss and Billlie have become my 4th gen ults for a reason, they're all just so darn talented. Honestly, I have to agree with your stage presence pyramid! Although for me Sua and Haram share that top spot, they're both just incredible. And I feel that Billlie as a group just works well together overall; personally I haven't noticed much of an imbalance between OT7 on stage (but maybe that's because I've followed them from pre-debut and don't have a bias). Tsuki might have shined the brightest in this comeback (mostly because it was her fancam that was released first, and this particular concept has focused choreography that fits the cute/quirky sort of vibe she pulls off really well), but they're all phenomenal dancers and the choreography allows them to each have a moment to shine, so it helps to keep your gaze from zeroing in on just one person for the whole stage. For me personally, I feel that Moon Sua has been the most powerful performer right from the first debut stage, and she (along with Haram and Sheon) seems to adapt best to different songs/genres/concepts. Haram and Sua have super good chemistry onstage too, would love to see the two of them doing a rap/vocal subunit someday!

[@PrincessOffInsomnia]

The editing of this video is IMMACULATE!

[@brunettebrbie16]

super high quality from imovie 🙄

[@ventithebarbventisanickimi9763]

im a predebut Tsuki stan and as much as I love her facial expressions, she stood out the most because she pulled off this concept the best. While in Ring x Ring, Tsuki was great but didn't stand out as much. She executed the strange and weird concept so well that it made her stand out a lot. But BILLLIE has a lot to offer, there is no best or worst in general, its about how well they pull the concept off. BILLLIE is very talented and one of my favorites when it comes to stage presence and dance. I'll be waiting for more of them.

[@stephanieb5120]

I love it when you do these videos because it’s so cool to dig deep into kpop performances as an art form, basically.

[@PdPiper-wn2nb]

To be honest I never really thought about Taemin stage presence that way, I always thought he blended well with the other members, specially over the years. Also, would you consider making an overall stage presence ranking?

[@afraibnat2875]

Taemin is an exceptionally eloquent performer with unreal caliber. But from my observation as a Shawol, he is able to 'tone down' in a good way in order to create a synergy in the SHINee performances. At lease thats how i view this. Needless to say, it is nothing short of impressive how beautifully the boys are able to deliver such harmonized performance, regardless each of them having so different stage personas 💎💎💎💎💎

[@EtherealTaemin]

yeah, one can't categorize taemin. he can be both masculine and feminine depending on the song and how he wants to portray a certain character. imo taemin has the best stage presence in the whole of kpop. he can eat everyone up on stage when he wants without even trying hard. when he performs, literally one cannot take his/her eyes off him even for a single second. he's that absorbing on stage. He has that MJ aura that others don't have.

[@vldt5934]

True, maybe they were referring to the current Taemin. Taemin as a solo artist has that sensual feminine energy but in Shinee I think they all synced together well.

[@JadestonePony]

Not going to lie, it's your focus on stage presence that's fascinating me the most with your channel! I actually don't even listen to or watch kpop most of the time, but seeing a deep dive breakdown of a subject with interesting categorization and analysis piques my interest every time. It's so cool that you developed this system yourself, and I love hearing what you have to say about it!

[@Maria-kg2tv]

I’m so happy you finally dropped a video on her!!!!

[@abignix2102]

Dude I swear your categorizations are so genius it’s not even a joke

[@koreaboo6749]

I like Tuski’s facial expressions, it’s why she’s my bias, but I found some of them a little confusing in GingaMingaYo. Still adorable, and I’m glad they got the group so much attention

[@teatimewiththeia]

In your examples for masculine and feminine aura you showed Hwanwoong and now I really want to know his archetype, cause he's my favorite idol to watch perform. He is definitely a overt performer but then I'm stuck. Is he a dominant-charismatic performer or just a charismatic performer or something completely else?

[@luisab3079]

Hwanwoong is probably my absolute favourite idol to watch perform too, and he's not even my bias in Oneus. His energy on stage is just so captivating.

[@northrnstar]

imo it usually depends on the song they're performing, but i would say he has his own type of energy. like depending on the concept he can "tone down" his energy to match the other members (as someone in the comments pointed out as something taemin does) but in some songs he is more in-your-face (i.e no diggity)

[@alchemist1588]

I personally like Sheon's stage presence the best in Billlie. I think with the attention and views on Tsuki's fan cams it has motivated other members to improve stage presence also. Thanks for the video 🤘

[@NEWBOTANICA]

nobody's saying its the standard though... its just new lmao. Anything for a lil click for your imovie vids

[@f-line5584]

💀dead,so true btw,like can we praise an idol for being great in peace?

[@sakurasuzuki8049]

Exactly

[@brunettebrbie16]

she always has to find smth to nitpick if they arent her faves smh typical rage bait lol

[@user-ef4ey7ht3g]

Billlie as a group are just so refreshing. They make their curious innocent children concept come alive. The commitment to performing is commendable

[@abignix2102]

Thank you for your analysis i find myself using your archetypes whenever I watch stages now😂😂 your archetypes a really on-point and easy to get and categorize people into you’re insanely genius for that

[@lingaung6199]

As a Haram bais I'm happy that you said she's the best performer in billlie which she truly is. She's super underrated. The reason I waited for billlie debut and checked them out was bc of the one in yg future 2ne1 vid Moon Sua But the reason I stanned billlie was bc of Haram I fall in love with her from the first time I saw her

[@mradventure8182]

Imo tsuki did well on this GingaMingaYo cb this time.. she did cool and precise and superb facial expressions and i like it like from smile to cool appearance... but idk what will come next for the next cb will she stay slaying it and keep on her facial expression throne or the opposite.. so all the best for her!!

[@nicolesalinas3126]

Moon Sua and Haram are so good at stage presence even the others too but these 2 girls are INSANE!!!

[@northrnstar]

i recall back in the days where i used to perform on stage, my teachers would be the most nitpicky about facial expressions and body language, as they needed to match the song we were performing. imo, tsuki pretty much understood the assignment and took the extra credit, but i do agree that while she did super well in gingamingayo, we need to see if she will keep this energy for different concepts (meaning her facials will match the concept) but im really glad to see billlie's hard work paying off.

[@Cloudleaf13]

love love LOVE how you made the live stage mix match up to the song as a way to round out/end the whole video!

[@dianadia8498]

Dude the amount of the work you put into these vids is amazing man ❤️

[@sur_un_nuage]

i think tsuki just really fit gingamingayo the most it was her era, and overall all the members are just really good

[@Lynn-cl2kq]

No one is saying that she’s the standard. We’re just tired of everybody hating on her for literally no reason…. People like to call the idols that wink once in a song the standard. Like no every performer is different and people just need to expect that. The “standard” performers are usually the center of the group.

[@moriah.al.]

Omg yes.

[@selmm2023]

This was a really great video. I feel like everything I've thought in my head was explained perfectly in this video (eg. masculine vs feminine). I agree that Tsuki is not as versatile. I think she really does excel in the fun, quirky & cute performances. Personally, I will agree & say that I think Haram and Moon Sua have the best stage presence in the group so far. It is for sure too early to give anyone that title, but Moon Sua is honestly a great performer. I find Haram to be very similar to Tsuki in the way that they both have very exaggerated facial expressions that aren't for everyone (I really love it personally), but I find Haram to be a little more versatile. Also I know this is probably more of an unpopular opinion, but I personally love watching Haruna perform. She is not very overt, but I find her to radiate this very mysterious type of aura with some innocence. It's super interesting to me!

[@77cupcakequeen]

i feel really bad for her at times. with the amount of hype she's getting, it can be hard to keep up with expectations... especially when you're being called "the standard". i hope she doesn't stress about needing to live up to what people want from her. it can be a very hard way to live.

[@sunnypop2583]

TASTE on having Moonsua in all four boxes of the stage presence quadrant 💐 you've got my attention on Haram with this as well. I have to say though that I'm surprised to see Siyoon at the bottom. Consider maybe doing the types for all of the Billlie members? Thank you Cheryl!! ❣️

[@AnzzCheatedOnMarkWithHaechan]

Just as you said stage presence is more to be subjective now adays so there can't be a standard there will be more as a preference... Definitely if someone has a great stage presence it's what it is but the word best is kinda debatable most of time

[@chansky235]

Ok I have a small question about your criteria: is aura basically just more of a vibe the idol gives off? I don't know if there's anything else that you notice about an idol that makes you type them as masculine/feminine.

[@margarida6857]

I think that Everglow up answers this in their first video ranking stage presence

[@valseanne1521]

IMO, tsukki’s stage presence is paired by the charisma in her look. She’s both has good expressions and a good face to sell it. Everyone in billlie has a similar quality of expressions imo, but the duality shows more drastically on tsukki

[@jaydenwatson06]

Tsuki supremacy.

[@monabrockelmann9613]

Im so glad that you highlighted Haram ! She is my bias in BILLLIE and I L O V E her stage presence! STAN BILLLIE STAN HARAM

[@linwithluv]

these are so interesting!! looking forward to more in the future

[@molly4370]

I personally feel like tsuki did set a standard. I think all idols should have facials, and presence like hers. Most idol stages I watch people are blank faced, whivh always takes away from the performance. Part of idols jobs is to perform, and everyone should take notes from tsuki and billlie i think.

[@carat-jamentertainment1311]

first time on the channel, (honestly landed here by accident lol) but i really enjoyed this video thank you! i'm definitely gonna check more out + your graphics are all so cool AH

[@dagarou]

Yes! You have explained why I like Tsuki so much better than I could 😅. Her aura totally captivates me, and I'm thinking that it could be the reason why I have a strong preference for Japanese idols in kpop.

[@mymoonbebe7450]

Oh and another unpopular opinión... I think Moon SuA is way better that Tsuki in this concept. Her fancams are just AMAZING. The thing about Tsuki is that her facial features along with her hair and clothes makes her look caricaturesque, but Moon SuA is just pure POISE on whatever concept, her 10 years of training are showing. But yeah... Haram is the best of them in Gingamingayo.

[@esteresteves7994]

For me, stage presence is about versatility, not going the same thing every time but adjusting to the mood, the crowd, the angles of the camera, the people around you, that does it for me

[@IstanbaldlegendsSungjinDOandKe]

Thank you for insightful video, the one thing i disagree tho is siyoon, she captures my attention every single comeback by her delivery of lines and overall pretty alluring aura, so i think her place is at least middle tier (for my subjective view even middle upper)

[@soojin224]

I know it's soo unrelated but 15:28 looks like food pyramid 😭😭 Anyway, personally Tsuki's constant facial expression is not really my thing, but i acknowledge her hard work and she deserves to be praised for it.

[@OrangeVerse]

your videos are so fun to watch!

[@m_6nus]

what a great wold if that kind of dedication would be the standard of stage presence lmfao

[@knowlesknowles1356]

I love Sheons stage presence, Moon Sua and Harams..... Tsuki is good but in some concepts

[@2natrix]

haram praise oh this is a good day

[@bluemingshade]

hey! this isn't related to the video but I got inspired by your stage presence ranking series and I am a huge fan of NCT so I analyzed NCT Dream's group chemistry and individual stage presence, and I noticed that Haechan possesses all 3 archetypes as well (dominant-charismatic-sensual), just like cai bing and yeri. I might be wrong so maybe you can do NCT Dream in your next analysis because based on my analysis, out of all the units in NCT, the dream unit have the most balanced chemistry together. They actually remind me of itzy and red velvet. btw loved your video💕

[@mvv0]

They definitely are the most balanced unit in NCT.

[@TT-yv7bj]

as many are saying i think another thing that makes tsukis stage presence stand out is her dancing overall very fast and demanding not just her facials

[@misssunnybae1074]

hi 👋 i’m in love with your editing

[@YoureMyCherryOnTop143]

Well you got a good point & plus I think I might bias her because I like her face expressions btw

[@sumysim3245]

You're amazing. Period.

[@njr4293]

Finally, someone appreciates Haram's stage presence. I am also attracted at her finger bite part in Gingamayo😆

[@astayandablinkisastink9980]

for those you ranked at bottom tier, I'd say a key factor is their consistency...siyoon was good at ringxring but fell off for the next comebacks...suhyeon was nice at snowy night but only for a couple of performances..she was not consistent...but I don't really mind, as of now...they're still a young group and I'm excited to see them grow...esp with their unique discography

[@itoo4884]

I've learned so much from this one video.

[@reveluvharu0506]

Even though I don’t stan billlie this was a really good video to watch as a nonfan to gain insight especially into their stage presence and their archetypes. Thoroughly enjoying as always 💙💙💙💙💙

[@skylerk126]

so surprised at how low you ranked suhyeon!

[@dylancowan2075]

haram's stare kinda reminds me of hyuna and im here for it

[@ChloeBx]

Billlie's energy is pretty balanced performance wise

[@lyricistrito]

i agree with your comments on tsuki’s stage presence and the stage presence triangle of the entire group. i would say that personally i still find the bottom tier entertaining to watch and i do prefer moon sua to tsuki atm but overall this was a very objective review :)

[@kimmichelle8557]

Kpop stans have no clue what stage presence actually means. Ryujin of Itzy is the actual standard of stage presence. Tsuki is a good performer tho

[@FlowerArtzy24]

Didi slaying as always hehe

[@vae1058]

Watching this made me wonder: are there some single archetype performers in kpop who are very versatile?

[@Nameless_mixes]

YES!!! IT'S FINALLY HERE!!! For my thoughts on Tsuki specifically, everyone should go to the "aotd" tab in EGU's Discord server and it's literally the first response lol That's right, now you all have TWO platforms to deal with my rants now! BWAHAHA!!! "My friend Danny exposed me" That's what friends are for, bestie! I love you!

[@everglowup]

Yes Yuqi is somewhat the glue, you're getting really good at this

[@Nameless_mixes]

@@everglowup I take after you, queen 😌🙌👑

[@merrygo-round3640]

Im glad that this is an educational video instead of a hate video😭♥️

[@deadbyerika]

I watched your video the day you posted, but after watching the Kick It cover and now their La Cha Ta cover, I totally see why you said Tsuki shines more in quirky/(bright imo) concepts like GingaMingaYo. She doesn't stand out much to me in Kick It compared to the rest but her presence was so good in La Cha Ta. But honestly she is a great performer and the rest of Billlie are fantastic. I can't wait for their next comeback, they have become my top 3 ggs I love your vids

[@lain006.]

Now, in DANG stage, she keeps havind a good stage presece, i have no idea if she is the best of the best, BUT, she is better than some idols

[@sushidashi6152]

I think Siyoon’s stage presence is better than what you made her out to be. If you watch their cover dance you’ll be hooked. Mystic Story is trying to push her too.

[@LightCosmos]

Ok after this video, i HAVE to see you analize Sakura since there was literally so much debate on if she was a great performer or not since produce put her on a pedestal. So i would really like to see your take on it but i would also like to hear from you (sorry if you already talked about this) what makes a ''perfect/good'' center of a group (maybe even as a separate video?). note: im absolutely not doubting Sakura btw, also since she's literally one of my ults lol, im just curious about everglow-up's take on it :)

[@jayrossxo]

Moon Sua was on Unpretty Rapstar season 2 aha - she's had experience before which explains a lot.

[@eremesguile9036]

Suhyeon was on Produce 101 and MIXNINE as well, kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6rLcpxsidpsecU

[@oriazelin4466]

There was a point in this video where I felt like I was watching a “what Pokémon to have on your team” video💀

[@peeepooopig6959]

ive always loved how you do these videos youre super good

[@knowlesknowles1356]

Billie is the only group that incorporates facial expressions in their choreography. Which takes them to the next level