No blue for you! Krenko vs Baeloth | Raised by Giants vs Hofri vs Saryth

[@PhiladelphiaCoIlins]

Love the starting life totals

[@thetemp7858]

Honestly I really like the deck explanations at the beginning and the interactions from the stream!

[@gmf1995]

correct me if I am wrong, but Em Jea basically could have had the whole table at 8:28 using the Craterhoof => everything +8/+8 which would cancel the goad from Baeloth and swinging with something like 70 power, trample and deathouch into everyone. but anyway, nice gameplay as always :)

[@blinkofan3ye]

exactly what i've thought

[@odyseeus]

I’m pretty sure they were playing with their food.

[@kickinwang1817]

Yeah, they even read Baeloth very closely before that turn too. 100% BM on their part and incredibly disrespectful in my opinion.

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

@@odyseeus is EM Jae a He, She, or a They? Cus this is starting to confuse me.

[@odyseeus]

@@afspeellijstnaruto No idea what pronouns they prefer, but they were a player in this game.

[@allobonjour9761]

I feel like most people I know underestimate how powerful goad is in commander

[@Inushiak]

I love goading with Marisi, Breaker of the Coil :)

[@TCG9777]

So overused nowadays. Along with treasure creating

[@allobonjour9761]

@@TCG9777 not really. there are 44 cards that mentions goad on them, and some of them are just terrible, and others don't really have any goad strategies surrounding it like jon irenicus or the beamtown bullies. and ofc they'll make a good couple of them in commander products because that's the only place where they can print them since it doesn't work in constructed. we got a lot this year but even then that's mostly because we just overall get so much rn because wotc pumps out a crazy amount of stuff non stop

[@patykaarplegos6282]

Krenko seems to need more lands. Or you need to keep at least a 3 land hand. It's not very cardraw heavy, have you considered staff of nin/Endless atlas?

[@jameskerr226]

As a Krenko player, you either need to start with 3 lands or atleast 2 and a mana rock. I've found that mulligans are essential to how your game plays, I assume that I will only see 1 card per turn so having the right opening hand is important.

[@ronaldeliott]

love to see Krenko again

[@tendo339]

why did Em Jae didn't destroy raised by giant with the woodfall primus? That would have allowed a big swing on Nick

[@AidanWR]

That happens to me way too often. No matter how well I shuffle, I either play land tribal or one spell tribal

[@CBandTh3Jake]

lmao

[@danpasquale1620]

Yo Em Jae's decks have been popping off lol pay attention to this man!

[@JeanSimonLanglois]

Same with my Krenko, i win hard or lose slowy mainly because of mana or lack of draws

[@jgroen5545]

Lose*

[@maxbodifee3263]

Gotta love big green stompy 🦍🦏🦕

[@jorjor500]

Funnily enough, I think this game perfectly exemplifies the purpose of running blue in commander and how it balances the format. Players can’t just cast spells without fear of interaction like what occurred. Without blue, decks would just be designed to vomit things onto the board as fast as possible making most games just, “who curved out better” as seen here.

[@Abraktil]

i don't like it but you have a point, or just play more boardwipes

[@jorjor500]

@@Abraktil isn’t having your board cleared a dozen times way more frustrating than just one or two major spells getting CS though? I don’t think people want to play against boardwipe tribal lmao

[@ryanfeery7361]

@@jorjor500 I think instead what was meant was instead of just always needing blue people can run other forms of removal.

[@JulioGarcia-j1t]

He couldn't attack nick last combat? No

[@keiferfrancis1447]

Run more lands or Mulligan better if you keep getting stuck at 2 lands.

[@thewaffler43]

Gotta run 40 lands man, it's the way

[@BelieMyBurial]

naaah, 35 is fine.

[@odyseeus]

I dont run anything above 34. Building low curve decks with decent card draw is key

[@gdiridium5525]

andrew please mulligan more. if you keep having mana issues with Krenko, you should be more judicious with the starting hands you keep

[@BelieMyBurial]

i am so fucking tired of Craterhoof Behemoth.

[@MeepOfFaith]

I mean you could essentially run the same combo and just play Endraze Forerunners with the ability to vomit your entire deck onto the field. It's still lethal. Craterhoof just needs less numbers to kill people.

[@BelieMyBurial]

@@MeepOfFaith in this specific instance, sure, just about anything will do after drawing your entire deck, but there's so many games out there where the Behemoth is effectively just 8 mana "counter me now or i win" for green. it's getting tiring to watch. having creatures or 8 mana is barely even a stipulation for that color and you don't even need that many to deal shit tons of damage. Coalition Victory has nothing on Craterhoof and that's banned lol.

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

I can undestand how you feel, but personally I'm actually getting more comfy with Craterhoof. There is so much bullshit/powercreep in mtg atm. A hoof that requires like 6 to 10 other creatures on the board for a win is pretty okay imo. It goes best with token strategies (instead of a deck that runs big creatures). THe only time where craterhoof is a real issue imo is when it gets sneak attacked in,....instead of hard casting. I'm more tired of the sanguine bond/exquisite blood combo or thassa's oracle tbh (although the latter is more cedh than casual ofc.). And at least you can fog craterhoof haha

[@LadyTsunade777]

I always love to see games where there's no Blue decks at all.

[@TheMartianBotanist]

Yeah hyper redundant combo and draw effectively ending a game on turn 5 is super interactive. Watching the green player embarrass 3 opponents until they win with Craterhoof is compelling gameplay.

[@328crash]

Spoken like a true battle cruiser meta player. Because playing "interaction" is scawy

[@LadyTsunade777]

Like clockwork the Blue players come out of the woodwork to spout their bad faith and just plain incorrect "you don't like Blue so you must be a battlecruiser player" or "games without Blue have 0 interaction".

[@328crash]

Hope your in game responses are better than your online ones. Don't need "bad faith" arguments when you make it this easy

[@LadyTsunade777]

And there's the ad hominem because you can't actually refute my points.

[@brendylove4285]

Mono green snooze fest

[@Irydion]

If you keep getting stuck on lands like that, you probably have to mulligan more. Stop keeping hands that are just "playable if you draw a land".

[@Abraktil]

infinite combo is boring

[@jgroen5545]

Em jae cant draw their deck and then play creatures without dying. Guardian project isnt an optional draw. Just saying. If it was me, and they drew their deck and then played a creature i'd respond with:"so you draw a card and die?" XD

[@Krimson51]

You can draw out your library one card at a time with staff so they can just stop once they hit the hoof.

[@jgroen5545]

​@@Krimson51 you "can", but as far as i could tell, thats not what they actually did though. It was stated as "they draw their entire deck, play a bunch of creatures, and win". If you play a combo, you better know how it works. If you f*** it up, you die. No take backsies for stuff like that. And you have to decide how many you draw before you play your first creature due to there still being a cathar trigger on the stack to destroy the staff. All the draws are in response to that.

[@jgroen5545]

​@@Krimson51 also they were not looking for the hoof i dont think. I believe they already had it in hand. The drawing of the hoof was revealed due to oracle of mul daya. So this wasnt digging for a specific card, this was just "drawing my deck because i can" before the staff is destroyed (the destroy trigger was still on the stack after all).

[@Krimson51]

@@jgroen5545 You can absolutely keep drawing in response to your draw and get to see every individual card before deciding to draw another before the stack resolves tho, seems like they had the win regardless no reason to argue tiny semantics in a casual format.

[@jgroen5545]

@@Krimson51 true but you do have to decide when you stop drawing before playing a creature. You cant just say "i draw my deck, and then play a lot of creatures followed by hoof for a massive pump and kill you" when that just factually is not the case.

[@AffinityForCommander]

I always enjoy seeing games without blue! Interaction is reduced to removal and combat! 😁

[@Wizardofexisting]

*laughs in mana tithe*

[@xgxwills2857]

Tibalt’s Trickery is typing…

[@jgroen5545]

Are you sure? "Lapse of certainty" occurs....

[@JB-zw3pl]

Basic boring green deck. Meh.

[@smack80]

Krenko is just too obsolete against today's "made for commander" commanders

[@TheObstalace]

My man was stuck on 2 mana while his opponents played Sol Ring, Sol Ring, and Burgeoning. Not saying youre completely wrong but against that any deck thats not playing multiple fast mana spells just doenst do anything in comparison.

[@TheMartianBotanist]

Disrespecting the Krenko deck is an easy way to lose a game on turn 4 but you go off

[@allobonjour9761]

@@TheObstalace yeah Andrew was really unlucky, ofc there is a massive power creep in MTG rn but being behind like he was doesn't help at all lol

[@kevinkennedy3643]

Clearly u haven't seen a good krenko deck then. Incredibly efficient and resilient cuz goblins are so cheap and there's a ton of good ones

[@smack80]

@@TheMartianBotanist I remember smashing my buddies krenko deck with a $50 budget Karlov deck. Just draw 2 removal spells.

[@DarkEinherjar]

"Why does this keep happening to me?" That's me every time I keep a hand that needs to topdeck a land in order to exist in the game... 🥲