NO BUTTERS AND OILS for Natural Hair?? My Thoughts | Deep Condition with me 🧖🏿‍♀️

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Laila Washington- FusionofCultures

Laila Washington- FusionofCultures

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@lilythegrey
@lilythegrey 3 жыл бұрын
Preach, "defining curls is a western idea" as an African woman living in Africa I don't remember my mother or her.mother worrying about defined curls. We use oils and butters and hair is braided and put away or worn in combed out afro. Calling it stupid is an insult to generations of haircare, proven to work.
@simplyshama
@simplyshama 3 жыл бұрын
I'm African born and raised in the UK. Defining or loosening my curls has honestly never been a priority. I don't even gel my edges. I think it's definitely an American influence that has impacted the western diaspora. This product junkie culture is actually unnecessary.
@lblack1961
@lblack1961 3 жыл бұрын
@@simplyshama Us Americans have a tendency to do too much 🤣🤣🤣 (my Jamaican cousin tells me that all the time...lol)
@evadoarfs4131
@evadoarfs4131 3 жыл бұрын
You are so right sis. Me telling my African brothers and sisters in Africa that oils ans butters are not good. They will be side eyeing me lol🙄
@lilythegrey
@lilythegrey 3 жыл бұрын
@@evadoarfs4131 yeah, the problem is everyone thinks they're right and everyone else is wrong but haircare is definitely an individual experience. we can have the same hair type, porosity and density but still react differently to the same products or methods. If you're introducing a "new" things don't dub that the most correct method of doing something.
@lilythegrey
@lilythegrey 3 жыл бұрын
@@simplyshama these things of laid edges and defined curls is partly responsible for why people, mostly those with "4c hair" feel so bad about their hair because it doesn't create those perfect curls or our edges don't lay like that so I must be doing something wrong, I must not be taking care of my hair correctly, especially if you don't see people whose hair looks like yours. So you'll buy every product on the market to try and achieve that look and feel worse about yourself when it doesn't work. It's a vicious, ugly cycle.
@CultivatingWhims
@CultivatingWhims 3 жыл бұрын
I think everybody should just find what works for them and roll with it. Oils and butters used to work great in my hair, recently my hair doesn't care for them. If that changes...I'll go back to using them. Why? Because I pay attention to how my hair reacts to different things and then stick with what gives me the results that I want.
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 3 жыл бұрын
I’m all for listening to your hair. A structured routine never worked for me because best believe my hair tells me what it needs and when it wants it 😅. You want a protein treatment now? Ok. You need a trim even though we cut off an inch last month? Ok. You don’t like twists or braids anymore, you want a wash n’go? Ok.
@Babiielicous1996
@Babiielicous1996 3 жыл бұрын
Preach
@SheReaDelSol
@SheReaDelSol 3 жыл бұрын
*passes the collection plate*
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
lmao!!! I need the coins sis 🙌🏾
@Leah_Tewari
@Leah_Tewari 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@allisond4916
@allisond4916 3 жыл бұрын
Queens supporting queens. 👸🏾
@TheLeah2344
@TheLeah2344 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what works for other people but oils and butters work for me. I only have a problem when people try to tell me what to do with my hair. People need to do what works for them and leave the rest of us alone.
@jackywairegi2316
@jackywairegi2316 3 жыл бұрын
Hi five sis! 🙏
@naturally_eesha6523
@naturally_eesha6523 3 жыл бұрын
🎯
@tammeracalisha5575
@tammeracalisha5575 3 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@soniastovall7005
@soniastovall7005 3 жыл бұрын
I know that’s right.
@michelleeja412
@michelleeja412 3 жыл бұрын
The word stupid being tossed around in the natural hair community is unacceptable especially by licensed cosmetologist. The natural hair community should be a place of education and acceptance. PERIOD. I started the 30 day detox and never looked back. Now I wash my hair every 7 days shampoo or clarify, deep condition and use botanical leave in. That's it. So simple! Oils and butters still have a place in my life but in a different way. And that's ok 💯. Ladies its all about your own journey and customization. Let's eliminate negative effects and agendas and rejoice in the power of unity 🙌 .
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Michelle! YES
@adwoamk8918
@adwoamk8918 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, I wouldn't clarify everyweek especially if your using more water soluble products it could over cleanse your hair, that's what happen to me.
@uberhaute_naturalz84
@uberhaute_naturalz84 3 жыл бұрын
@@adwoamk8918 As regards Shampoo, I just listen to my scalp, then my hair. The day I felt my scalp was itchy and dry, I did hot oil treatment and used a moisturising shampoo. The day I used grease and wax, I used clarifying shampoo....
@uberhaute_naturalz84
@uberhaute_naturalz84 3 жыл бұрын
You see, I don't know how people process their information. What these people are saying isn't a new phenomenon. So many people have been doing it e.g. myself. For example, how can I use a serious moisturiser with oils and wax in the first five ingredients like Camille Rose Almond Jai Butter then proceed to add another separate oil especially one that is not formulated for the hair? They only said shampoo, condition and style without wasting your money,! Moknowshair has been saying it, Curlmix has been saying it among many others! I've been doing this for more than a year even before this challenge started, and my big chop last year has grown past my armpit. To each his own.
@michelleeja412
@michelleeja412 3 жыл бұрын
@@uberhaute_naturalz84 Thank you for your contribution. You said you don't know how people process this information, well some don't and it's not their fault. There is so much information out there in KZbin land that it becomes confusing. Just think about how many years the LOC AND LCO methods have been taught and ingrained and all of a sudden someone is saying it's wrong?? Please have mercy and grace upon those who are hesitant when their methods of LOC AND LCO have actually grown their hair. Why would they change? God Bless 🙌
@LaToyaEbonyHair
@LaToyaEbonyHair 3 жыл бұрын
You are making perfect sense and I wholeheartedly agree. So many amazing points Laila! We share a lot of the same thoughts actually. Loved this!
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Hey LaToya!!! Thanks for sitting through this sis lol I’ve watched all your videos on your detox. I’m glad my points came across well, I was a little worried lol Also! I’ve been subbed to you since back back back in the day lol love you sis!!
@msgigglesbaby
@msgigglesbaby 3 жыл бұрын
As an African American this is my first time hearing about this situation or 30 day method . First time hearing about "Black Girl Curls brand" and I've been natural since 2010. So I'm low-key lost, and wondering why is there always got to be some kind of tension in the natural hair community.
@MalkiaNzinga
@MalkiaNzinga 3 жыл бұрын
Also, as a woman who wears natural hair I went away from "professionals" for a reason. This undercurrent of thinking the ultimate look is a curly wash n go (separated curls) look is still there, even when it is stated that it is not. I say do what works for you!!!
@sayladytea
@sayladytea 3 жыл бұрын
Well said.. I want a world where women are no longer competitive with one another. No more relaxed vs natural, type 3 vs type 4, no heat vs heat. Acceptance, openness and support for women by women.
@Heyy_Sirii
@Heyy_Sirii 3 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly with your perspective on the no oils trend. They aren’t saying anything new. Their approach is harsh and sometimes off putting. I’ve been natural for 11 years and their approach isn’t new or ground breaking.
@User-jd9ut
@User-jd9ut 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf they never said it was any of those things they always stress how it’s literally been in cosmology textbooks for years...that’s all?
@Heyy_Sirii
@Heyy_Sirii 3 жыл бұрын
@@User-jd9ut it’s not always what they say, it’s how they say it. Their message would come across so much better if they were not so abrasive. Either they want to teach people or they want to berate people. At some point they should make a choice.
@ohsnapitslexi_751
@ohsnapitslexi_751 3 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuuuu! I went to a curly stylist and they tried pushing this method on me. I told them my hair is not a fan of wash and goes. And that twists with butters is my go to. Just for her to ignore me completely so a wash a go and then a week later my hair was matted, dryyyy, and brittle. I messaged her and she said it’s my hair “detoxing” ma’am 🥴. Coily hair is not a one size fits all. I’m so over the new “profound” methods that come out every week.
@doctorofletters8412
@doctorofletters8412 3 жыл бұрын
Not detoxing 😂😂😂 how ludicrous.
@ohsnapitslexi_751
@ohsnapitslexi_751 3 жыл бұрын
@@doctorofletters8412 no surprise she ghosted me after that lol
@cindyaudy2307
@cindyaudy2307 3 жыл бұрын
You hair was detoxing? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂... these stylists need to stop with all of that.
@ladonna1902
@ladonna1902 3 жыл бұрын
IKR! First it was chebe, then it was rice water, now it's no butters and no oils. I watch all these videos and see these ladies try all of these "trends". It works first initially, then it stops working or their hair starts breaking off. But have never tried any of these "trends". I just stick to what I have always been doing for my hair and it works.
@Laysplace23
@Laysplace23 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has followed the method, I think this is one the most well articulated points in response to this wave of haircare. It’s not new. It’s not revolutionary but it’s also not “bad”. My biggest take away has been learning the spectrum of shampoo and when and how to use products. Now I feel like I can do whatever I’d like to with my hair and know how to properly cleanse and adapt based on my intended outcome and my hairs needs.
@lauraadingmburu9446
@lauraadingmburu9446 3 жыл бұрын
The 30 day detox is more for people who are not happy with the condition of their hair. It's not a lifetime ban on oils and butters but a pause to allow your hair to be able to reabsorb moisture correctly. Then you can reintroduce them as needed.
@uberhaute_naturalz84
@uberhaute_naturalz84 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, my dear. Comprehension is a must and extremely important!
@rejesus7106
@rejesus7106 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly if u feel your hair needs certain things then use it
@Moriri_By_TshepiB
@Moriri_By_TshepiB 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this, yay!!!! As an African living in Africa with 4c hair. I'm just as concerned. Growing up my mother would wash my hair and seal with petroleum jelly and braid up my hair. My hair was bra strap length and very thick. Currently I have waist length hair and live by my oils. As someone with high porosity I need the oil prepoo to avoid hygral fatigue. Either way I'm a big believer in hair practices first then products help in length retention. All this said I have never worn my hair in a wash n go and have no real desire to right now. This method I believe is geared mainly toward those that wear wash n gos. More power to those people. There is a gap that needs to be filled and that is 'Educated yourself and do what is best for you'. NO ONE IS STUPID FOR THAT.
@NinthJewel
@NinthJewel 3 жыл бұрын
What’s ur regimen ? I want to get to waist length too I’m 4c
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
No one is stupid for that! Agreed... thanks for sharing sis :)
@KaliKali-hv9bt
@KaliKali-hv9bt 3 жыл бұрын
wow, you sound like you need your own you tube channel. I've been looking for more high porosity natural hair types that are not buying and using every product that comes out onto the market.
@donnac.3273
@donnac.3273 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaliKali-hv9bt I believe their are a lot out there. I stopped watching hair care video years ago because it was starting to look cookie cutter and almost everyone was using Shea Moisture and then some started their own haircare line. I started doing what was best for my hair. I had 4cd waist hair until I cut it because my arms got tired 😫 of braiding. Lazy natural here. You hair will grow if you leave it alone.
@Moriri_By_TshepiB
@Moriri_By_TshepiB 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaliKali-hv9bt lol thanks but after two videos I would have nothing to post coz I follow I strict routine and barely try new products.
@travelgirl7967
@travelgirl7967 3 жыл бұрын
Many naturals I've seen who've had mid back length hair for years have used oils and/or butters. Indians and Africans have used oils/butters since the beginning of time. So anyone calling themselves a "professional" and saying all those billions of people are doing it wrong and they've "discovered" the ONE true way of hair care and to buy their course or only use certain formulated products, is just cashing in on the gullible and ignorant. With oils/butters or without, do what works for you.
@intergalacticbnb
@intergalacticbnb 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, there's an agenda behind it.
@itsbritt9155
@itsbritt9155 2 жыл бұрын
The thoughts are based off of western hair care , that’s why.
@efhawkins19
@efhawkins19 3 жыл бұрын
Some people don’t know what to say. I’m staying with my oils and butters. It is so good to know there are several ways to achieve the same results.
@simulationone
@simulationone 3 жыл бұрын
Moderation is key. And I use a clarifying shampoo so I’m not worried. Shea butter is life! Especially the yellow one ☝️
@fou8432
@fou8432 3 жыл бұрын
I generally try not to comment on these things but you made a point I am passionate about which I’ll get to in a bit. First let me say that the argument that raw oils and butters are detrimental to the hair is diametrically opposed to what science has actually shown, so what upsets me more than anything is people claiming this is scientific. I am willing to accept any argument but that! You can even tell me that science has not gotten around to studying it, but you can’t claim science says what it doesn’t! More to what interests me in this conversation, talking about science and traditional methods, not only concerning this topic but especially in healthcare, there is the pervasive idea that traditional methods are not empirical and I think that is untrue. Traditional methods are generally spread laterally in communities and vertically through generations because they work. In these communities, it may not have been proven in a clinical trial but it was based on empirical data. This is why there are studies now using modern scientific methods to study these traditions and finding that they track with their claims. Lastly (this one is tongue in cheek), yes everyone should wash their hair properly but I am not even certain it is that important, Fulani women in Nigeria are nomads, use a version of fermented ghee in their hair and I am certain do not wash it regularly, definitely not once a week while they are roaming through those Sahara adjacent regions and yet they have some of the most beautiful black hair ever with very pronounced curl patterns - Don’t think I have a point to make here, just saying, none of this is that serious.
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in!!! My family is Hausa, also nomads and very similar to the Fulani so I get you.
@adebanjobukola2313
@adebanjobukola2313 3 жыл бұрын
@@FusionofCultures 😲😲 Hausa?
@facynta6823
@facynta6823 3 жыл бұрын
@@FusionofCultures Wow....now that's a surprise😁
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
@@facynta6823 lol yes, I've mentioned it before. My Mum is Ashanti and my dad is Hausa.
@lblack1961
@lblack1961 3 жыл бұрын
"... so what upsets me more than anything is people claiming this is scientific. " THIS PART 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
@jamialaprince6556
@jamialaprince6556 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that all of this buzz revolves around old information that's been circulating for years. Essentially, people have not been properly taking care of their hair, and this topic being bought to the forefront is like the secret of life in the eyes of individuals who have been doing it all wrong all along. Oils and butters have no place in this conversation, because that isn't the enemy here. The lack of proper use of oils and butters, and not knowing how to properly moisturize hair has been the problem with people being able to retain the length they grow, and keep their hair moisturized.
@cindigreen9899
@cindigreen9899 3 жыл бұрын
As I’ve been learning how to take care of my natural hair, I remember hearing that the reason we use oil is to seal in the moisture. Doesn’t it make sense that the oil is semipermeable? I didn’t understand why people were doing the “no cream or butters challenge”. Thank you for explaining it. I will continue to use them because they work for me.
@armamia.1701
@armamia.1701 3 жыл бұрын
I also felt like when I listened to the no oils no butters… the only difference was the use of 2 shampoos and the gel to seal. I most certainly was using my clarifying shampoos. But lol, nobody can tell me that I do not need to deep condition 😅😅 I added deep conditioning to my hair after I noticed that my post wash day hair always felt dryyyyyyyyy. And I don’t wear wash and go’s. Don’t wish to. My hair thrives when I use oils and butters. I go through periods of time where I don’t always have them. Trust me. I know the difference. And yes. To each his own. This trend will work for some and it won’t work for some.
@anderysweet
@anderysweet 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same, it is possible that we only need shamppo and some product to style. The ancients I think they did not use conditioner and the hair is very beautiful
@HereDiianas
@HereDiianas 3 жыл бұрын
@@anderysweet But also they had healthier diet less pollution were using less heat and chemical treatments etc... I know in India it was the norm to use oil after or before cleaning hair (coconut, sesame oil) just like in Africa from the North to the South people used Argan oil, or Shea butter, Palm oil and in Italy it used to be olive oil... All those oils are still used today in those places not just as much as we can easily find hair products now. Actually oils and conditioners or deep conditioners or leave-in conditioners or masks or heat protectant... behave the same just with different texture, different ingredients and different performance. Iy's up to you to choose which ones work best for you. They protect the first layer of cuticles and put them back in their original place after the swealing from the hair caused by hair being saturated with water during the shampoo process. Theg protect cuticles's integrity, add lubrification as a consequence combing is easier as there is less friction and also breakage and dryness are minimized. So there is no need to use all of them you can choose one or 2 products or more if you wish. After shampooing I use my deep conditioner, when my hair is slightly damped I apply a mix of oil and shea butter for the week and that's it. In the long run especially if you wish to have long hair or if you chemically process your hair or want hair to be more manageable that's a true asset. Because remember hair is dead so to keep it in it s best condition the best you can do is to protect it. And if you want to grow healthy hair, eat healthy and have a good lifestyle.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 3 жыл бұрын
@@anderysweet I think it depends on your hair and preference. I know people who use a modern version (wash with shampoo and moisturize with hair grease) of what our ancestors used to do (wash with soap and moisturize with animal fat), and their hair looks healthy. Regardless of how minimal or intense your routine is just use what works for you. I wash with shampoo, apply a diy Ayurvedic powder hair mask, then rinse and apply conditioner. For styling I use a moisturizer and flax seed gel, twist my hair and put oil on my scalp. It sounds like a lot, but it really isn’t and I only do it every 10-14 days because that’s what my hair likes and I’ve noticed this routine has increased my growth and retention. I think it’s mostly because I use Ayurvedic hair care and because I keep my hands out of my hair, but I’m not changing anything because if it works it works.
@potterylady44
@potterylady44 3 жыл бұрын
@@anderysweet hi...but you need conditioner to close your cuticles because shampoo raises the oh of hair( lifts cuticle to get things off and to let water in).
@anderysweet
@anderysweet 3 жыл бұрын
@@potterylady44 hola.... now I use shampoo and sea moss and cocoa cream styler and sometimes add gel. I thinks those products seal the cuticle.
@KnL9713
@KnL9713 2 жыл бұрын
I went back to ancestral method and I don't regret it. My hair became soft, less dry and more defined. I just learnt how to use raw products. I wash my hair with plants or clay to avoid dryness when I clean my scalp and my hair. I rinse my hair with teas based on plants, spicies and honey. Then I apply a melt of oils, butter and glycerin as a cream.
@CurlsofaCPA
@CurlsofaCPA 3 жыл бұрын
I am with you. It's literally the common sense on the consumer side and then the shade on the stylist side for me lol people have to do what works for them no matter if it's trending. I personally use oils and butters based on the style I want and also clarify my hair and scalp as needed. I enjoyed this relaxing deep condition, chill and chat video 🤗
@lblack1961
@lblack1961 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. To assume that everyone who views a content creator isn't thinking critically is really sad to me. It really is another way that the professional proponents are dismissive of potential salon clients.
@KandidKinks
@KandidKinks 3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this video Laila. I’ve had a lot of similar thoughts but couldn’t articulate them lol
@Dsmileybface
@Dsmileybface 3 жыл бұрын
I've absolutely loved your thoughts on this. For me, my understanding was that the 30 day hair detox consisted of not using raw oils or butters for 30 days so you can learn your natural hair, what it looks like and how it responds. I was an avid product junkie and would spend money on products because of what was on the market or based on a review and it wouldn't do anything for my hair. Cleansing my hair weekly or every two weeks (if in twists) was normal but I never thought about wash and go's, which I am doing now because of black girl curls. The products that they recommend have oils and butters in them, but they say there is no need for those things in its raw form. For me, "taking the stupid out of natural hair" was funny because over the years there have been many trends/methods/challenges of using oils, avocado, eggs,rice, clay, hanging upside down, greenhouse methods etc that may not have yielded results. I thought of that slogan just as the books computers for dummies or the other...for dummies books. Thanks for sharing your view point. Speaking from your cultural perspective makes sense!!!
@kimmydiunicorn
@kimmydiunicorn 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s different strokes for different folks because everyone’s hair and hair goals are different just as you said. Just like how you’re steaming your hair because it’s low porosity and the steam opens you’re cuticles, and my steamer has been collecting dust for years because my hair is high porosity and my cuticles just be out here open unprovoked 🤣 I use oils and butters to create that semi-penetrable barrier so I can lock moisture in my hair for that very reason as well. I’m not stupid. I do what’s best for me! Period. Lol
@Ossouko
@Ossouko 3 жыл бұрын
Your genes and how you treat yourself and scalp internally/externally matter more than products ( shop bought or raw ingredients).
@lizzyandlanda8743
@lizzyandlanda8743 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody is obsessed with defining their curls like not every wants loads of gel and mousse in their hair
@lori4eva
@lori4eva 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Another thing that irked me in the community is that people don't take the time to find how to best use a product and instantly label as bad. A prime example is coconut oil. It works best as a pre-wash treatment but people labeled it bad because it use used after wash to seal.
@a.mariedixon-jenkins
@a.mariedixon-jenkins 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Coconut oil is an oil that penetrates the hair shaft therefore does not seal in moisture. Then they wonder why their hair is dry or stiff the next day. I use coconut oil to detangle my hair before shampooing.
@uberhaute_naturalz84
@uberhaute_naturalz84 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Comprehension is the problem of so many, add ignorance and laziness😆😆😆
@haleybrown2795
@haleybrown2795 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right… What they’re saying isn’t completely new. There’s been licensed cosmetologists on KZbin for time talking about the fundamentals of haircare, but I guess they kinda got drowned out with everything else on KZbin. I think their way of haircare is slightly developed from the fundamentals they learn in cosmetology school to include more research specifically around curly/coily/kinky hair which I understand because text book research has always been centred around white haircare. Before I knew about them I unintentionally reduced my usage of raw oils and butters in my routine and swapped them for more botanical based products and my hair definitely has changed for the better. Incorporating botanical based products and washing my hair more regularly (7-10 days) has been a game changer not just from a definition standpoint but moisture retention as well. They see the wash and go as the most optimum hairstyle (which I don’t necessarily agree with, but understand where they’re coming from). They’ve also argued that the raw oils completely reduce permeability of water to the most inner Cortex of the hair strand. I do think they are little bit misunderstood though because I think the most key part of what they’re saying is raw butters and oils. A lot of the products they recommend have oils and butters (even in the first 5 ingredients) but like you said formulation is key. But the main reason why I can’t fully subscribe to them is 1.They’re very rude with their delivery of information and I don’t like that. 2. They’re forever putting down influencers and I don’t like that. Influencers and Stylists can go-exist in the same space and both be positive (AfrikanHairGod is a good example of this) and 3. Small black owned businesses are thriving selling oil and butter based products and l don’t think we should be bashing them for the sake of ‘science’. And lastly 4. Like you said it is a very westernised approach and not everyone has access to the products or tools necessary for their way of styling and not everyone cares for curl definition. They say that the whole ancestral/cultural view of raw oils and raw butters just doesn’t work with the science of today which I get but they shouldn’t be so dismissive of it. Haircare at the end of the day is more than just science for a lot of us. It’s very cultural and that shouldn’t be dismissed for the sake of ‘what science says works’
@Wonderwoman79G
@Wonderwoman79G 3 жыл бұрын
What botanical products do you use?
@angelicaellis
@angelicaellis 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old post so apologies! But science actually says oil’s (including raw oils) are protective to the hair! They are hair stylist not scientist! When you want to know what roll products and ingredients have on the hair and skin you need to get advice from cosmetic chemist! They are the experts on the roll of ingredients not hair stylist. What these hair stylist are doing is called Authority bias! And cosmetic chemist are constantly fighting against the constant misinformation of hair stylist, constantly! Oils are there to protect the cuticle layer. Everyone hair is different so definitely do what works for you but there claims that raw oils and butters are scientifically bad for the hair is very false information. Naturally high did a video on this showing citation but I suggest following actual cosmetic chemist like @sciencemeetscosmetics (Instagram account). Again hair stylist don’t have a deep understanding of cosmetic chemistry.
@maxiej6756
@maxiej6756 3 жыл бұрын
Great job making sense of this fad. I’m 71 years old and I can’t tell you how many times someone has introduced “ new “ research to prove what works on hair. So if what I am doing for my hair and scalp works who cares what someone is saying is correct. I have learned to be suspect of “ new” studies. There is so much misinformation today so thank you for sharing your knowledge and personal experience taking care of your hair.
@moniquep2760
@moniquep2760 3 жыл бұрын
As for me and my fine high porosity hair, we shall serve up these oils. Not one lie was told. And as to the science aspect, you are absolute right. I’m in the legal field and hear paid experts with all the letters behind their names give exactly opposite conclusions based on who paid them or paid for their research…just sayin
@mariekalengule7138
@mariekalengule7138 3 жыл бұрын
finally somebody said it! i stopped following KZbin trends a log time ago. people should do what works best for them and stop diminishing others regiment.
@kathleenadeshoga8415
@kathleenadeshoga8415 3 жыл бұрын
I think most stylists including the ones you mentioned generally agree oils are beneficial but they discourage overuse. The oils and butters are present in well formulated conditioners and stylers so they don't feel the need for extra raw oils and butters on top, that generally aren't formulated to actually work on hair. I think most ppl agree on the science, but disagree about the application.
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
very true! Thank you for sharing
@JadeJade333
@JadeJade333 3 жыл бұрын
They lost me when they suggested hella expensive products $33, a $45 course and disrespected natural influencers over and over.
@jeanninegorden8142
@jeanninegorden8142 3 жыл бұрын
@@JadeJade333 that part
@uberhaute_naturalz84
@uberhaute_naturalz84 3 жыл бұрын
@@JadeJade333 honestly, I don't understand why people are overworked over this. This thing isn't new. I've been doing it a long time ago and it has benefited me way before this challenge! If I use an oil/butter based product like As I Am Double Buttercream or Camille Almond Jai, why would I use oil again? What am I sealing? Since I've been watching Green Beauty, Curly Chemistry, Afope Atoyebi, Africanhairgod, Glamfam, Moknowshair, I've been better at handling my hair and it has been healthy and in the past one year of my big chop, my hair has grown beyond my armpit! Let people go back to school and study comprehension again abeg.
@tigereyes5
@tigereyes5 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is made clear in Wash Your Damn Hair. I think there is definitely a misunderstanding of what they are actually saying across the board
@danmeck5978
@danmeck5978 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped using oils during all of lockdown (UK). Approx 50% of my hair broke off from near the root. DRY! I am now back to the LOC method. I am Low Porosity. Hair is thanking me.
@Melissa85Bee
@Melissa85Bee 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't from the lack of oils as oils do not provide moisture.
@danmeck5978
@danmeck5978 3 жыл бұрын
@@Melissa85Bee I know that but the water/moisture evaporated from my hair almost immediately.
@HereDiianas
@HereDiianas 3 жыл бұрын
@@Melissa85Bee Oils help with hair manageability and combing which help to minimize breakage just like any conditioner, mask leave-in, moisturizer, hair mask, etc.... So it's up to you to choose which one you want to use !
@uberhaute_naturalz84
@uberhaute_naturalz84 3 жыл бұрын
Sister, you broke your hair off. You should have used a sealant e.g As I Am double buttercream and consistently shampoo your hair.
@danmeck5978
@danmeck5978 3 жыл бұрын
@@uberhaute_naturalz84 well that is exactly what I was using - The double butter cream! And i shampoo once a week. I was also on meds. That cream is a moisturiser and with no oil to seal....breakage everywhere but it crept up on me. Oh well. I know never to do that again.
@justbeuneik
@justbeuneik 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! You hit it right on the mark. This No OILS No Butters trend is focused on popping curls. There's nothing wrong with oils and butters. It's how you're using them. I'm a protective style natural so wash n go's are a No for me. I shampoo my hair and scalp thoroughly, deep condition, rinse. Then prep for styling. While my hair is still wet I spritz rosewater all over my hair and scalp, seal the water in a bit with my herbal oil only applying it to my hair, then seal with a thick leave-in conditioner. Install curlformers to stretch my hair and allow my hair to air dry for the rest of the day til the next morning sometimes. Remove the curlformers, lightly spritz my hair with rosewater again to reactivate the product already in my hair and completely seal everything in with my whipped hair butter cream and put my hair in a protective style. My styles usually last me for 2-3 weeks at a time. Keeping my hair stretched and protected as helped me to maintain more length for these past 2 years compared to when I first went natural and was doing wash n go's back to back. Split ends and excessive tangles have been reduced to the minimum. I haven't pre-poo my hair with oil for the past 3 years. It's an extra step in my wash day that found was really unnecessary. There's already enough product in my hair so it didn't make sense to add on more. My hair doesn't swell right away when water touches it. It slowly will work its way in as a finger detangle and get most of the product out of my hair before I shampoo.
@catherinebutler3003
@catherinebutler3003 2 жыл бұрын
Nice topic of discussion that need to be spread. I agree with everything you said. Based on my experience growing up, the most important thing is being consistent with your routine (whatever that may be). I’m born and raised African American and my mom used what was available in the stores. She used Suave shampoo, towel dried the hair then put Suave conditioner on the hair left on for a few minutes before rinsing out; towel dry again then put hairdresser, e.g. (bergamot, tcb, or ultra sheen) on SCALP and hair, then braid it up or do ponytails. I have never had a scalp or hair issue from that routine and have always had a boat load of long hair. Some people frown on using grease type products on the scalp and hair but, it kept our hair moisturized and free from the issues that I see people going through now. And when roller setting the hair, she didn’t put a hairdresser on, she only used “Dippity Do” hair gel. And raised in the African American community, we never detoxed or did a lot of things that I see on KZbin because we never heard of it but, our hair and scalp thrived. In my opinion, it thrived from being consistent with a routine and not putting more product on the hair in between wash days (added water only), hence, no product buildup, so no need to detox.🤷🏾‍♀️ So it goes too show that a consistent routine is what really matters. Also, back then the community didn’t know about “sulfates & cones”. But guess what, our hair retained moisture and when we would straighten our hair, the moisture in the air had no problem getting in and reverting our hair. Like you said, it only slows the process but, eventually that moisture gets in. Now that I’m natural again since 2014, I’ve learned about natural products which I do use, including clays, butters, and oils. All the back and forth with what’s good and what’s not is becoming confusing and ridiculous. Everyone should do and use whatever keeps their scalp and hair healthy and happy, and stop making it seem like some people are doing the wrong thing. As long as the scalp and hair are kept clean, hydrated, moisturized, and not causing product buildup, you’re doing right by your hair. P.S. And something else we naturals didn’t do back in the day was deep conditioning and cut or trim our hair. If you keep a healthy regimen you shouldn’t have to cut or trim your hair all the time. May I say it again, we had no problems with our hair. A regimen is all that’s needed ladies and gentlemen. 🙏🏾❤️
@mara9905
@mara9905 3 жыл бұрын
I just didn’t understand why it became such huge debate, but I notice they word things in a harsh way for shock value which is probably for marketing purposes. I wish they would deliver their message in a more gentle way. I prefer to not use many oils on my hair, I did the detox and I just recently started using oil again. Only lightweight, processed oils very sparingly for shine. I think the point is to get to know what your hair feels like free of product so you know what build up feels like. But I feel like its just another option of haircare that people can try or not try.
@danmeck5978
@danmeck5978 3 жыл бұрын
Right! Oil is not a forcefield! You can add product ontop and that product will still absorb...hence the LOC method. You can layer oil and a waterbased product frequently. The new scare tactic that nothing will get past an oil or butter is so odd, and makes no sense....but sadly I fell for it!
@gigibrown_wright
@gigibrown_wright 3 жыл бұрын
@Donna McKinson I did too!!! Until I started using grease and still was able to add moisture to my hair after and my hair has thrived!! Thank you for saying this!
@danmeck5978
@danmeck5978 3 жыл бұрын
@@gigibrown_wright 😊😊😊
@fifir7010
@fifir7010 3 жыл бұрын
This is false lol scientifically…
@blessednotstressed2739
@blessednotstressed2739 3 жыл бұрын
@@fifir7010 right. I just learned about lipids and lipids aren’t dissolved by water they’re dissolved by alcohol or chloroform so from a science standpoint, it doesn’t seem to make sense either.
@fifir7010
@fifir7010 3 жыл бұрын
@@blessednotstressed2739 yes water and oil can not mix because of varying densities and polarity. Oil cannot moisturize what ppl are describing as the LOC or adding products on top of oil is just adding a coating to their hair of course that’s fine if it works for them
@camishabyrd5155
@camishabyrd5155 3 жыл бұрын
Using butters and oils Vs Not using them . . What I think both methods work. . both promote clean hair both are gear towards moisturizing one with butters and oils an the other water . . both works find the one that fits your life style and go for it. . all in all grow hair . . 💕💖 Love you Naturals 💋
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@l.patrick3155
@l.patrick3155 3 жыл бұрын
😘😘
@keiyamcmorris9271
@keiyamcmorris9271 3 жыл бұрын
I feel oils and butters are a great way to get nutrients into your hair...Great for high porosity and low porosity.....it also is a great barrier from the elements.....I must add its great to clarify your hair quarterly like a clay wash rahssoul or aztec clay Black soap wash will help remove build up
@adnaloy9025
@adnaloy9025 3 жыл бұрын
Preach it, Sis! Here in the states I was just taught to straighten my hair. Before they made me relax my hair as a child, I sat under a hot comb every Saturday. I had to watch KZbin to learn to care for my own natural hair without a relaxer when I first went natural in 2011! We were using mineral oil and grease (petrolatum) which do repel water. Natural oils and butters do attract and hold moisture to the hair, in my experience. I learned about natural oils and natural butters here on KZbin.
@Lilli626
@Lilli626 3 жыл бұрын
A 30 min video?! Your spoiling us girl!
@armamia.1701
@armamia.1701 3 жыл бұрын
Sis I got comfortable!!!!
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
lmao!! I can not 😂
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
lmao I know right!!!
@NinthJewel
@NinthJewel 3 жыл бұрын
That’s no oil/ butter movement doesn’t work for my 4c hair
@trinamarietv600
@trinamarietv600 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing points Laila'!! I use oils and butters with no problems. My hair is thriving
@masseiy
@masseiy 3 жыл бұрын
I think the detox thing is good for helping people be more mindful about being a product junky and evaluate what they prefer. Personally I’ve never been a product junkie and kept things simple and only buy new hair products to replace empty products. I’ve been side eyeing some you tubers resisting shampoo from the jump and never got on that wave but then again most of my South African family is natural so I never had to learn to love my hair and care for it from scratch so some empathy needs to be extended there. Also I do love that some stylists advocate for efficiency instead of spending hours on uncomplicated styles because wash day shouldn’t feel daunting. Out of curiosity I tried mousse/foam for the first time and I found my hair LOVES it however I’m not closing the door on oils especially light oils.
@sekayiscott2775
@sekayiscott2775 3 жыл бұрын
You better preach!🙌🏽 I tried the challenge under the impression that my hair would thrive while missing ALL the red flags in the challenge video. My hair went from the longest and moisturizered it had ever been to the driest and fragile it had ever been in the natural hair journey. So yeah I'm team oil and butters!❤
@elshaddai7253
@elshaddai7253 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I know ever since I started the no oils no butter and having to wash my hair every week what I have seen with my hair is my hair no longer tangle much and breaks less than before and it stays detangle for quite some time. It works for me but took long for me to see the results
@HereDiianas
@HereDiianas 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I just have a question. Did you also wash your hair every week when you were using oil and butter. By your comment it seems rhat the answer is no. If I am correct how do you know that not using raw oil is what is helping vs washing your hair on a regular basis. The reason I am asking is because I see many comments like yours as if using oils automatically meant to not wash hair regulary...
@elshaddai7253
@elshaddai7253 3 жыл бұрын
@@HereDiianas to be honest I wasn't but at first I used to wash my hair every week ( once) it would still break than I stopped washing it every week to on e a month
@tigereyes5
@tigereyes5 3 жыл бұрын
@@HereDiianas Good question. I was actually a weekly washer way before I started this method and found I got the same results as Elshaddai
@outherewildinb2874
@outherewildinb2874 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. A means to an end. Use the products/ingredients for their known benefits. Experience damage from excessive swelling or hygral fatigue, do a prepoo. Ends need a butter (or something with a high concentration) for friction reduction? Go for it. Want to 'seal', pick up something that has a film forming humectant. Your product with hold isn't moisturising enough alone? Use a compatible leave in! It's really that simple. It does worry me that regular cleansing and setting has taken so many by surprise, but if it helps people go back to basics, great. I don't appreciate their approach too. Especially when they emphasis taking oneself to a cosmetologist specialising in our hair, as if they're on every corner. The Curl Bar is one of like 2 salons that caters to wash and go styling on tight curly hair in the *UK* .
@trinigul7339
@trinigul7339 3 жыл бұрын
DEEP! DEEP! DEEP!!! I just want to cry. The title of this video should have been The Importance of Keeping Tradition. We may have lost a lot on that big boat ride but you’re here to ensure retention after a plane ride. Thank you soooooo much!
@sweetmango4190
@sweetmango4190 3 жыл бұрын
She is one of the few people on KZbin with common sense. Check also Naturally High and AfrikanHairGod on this subject. No oil / butter applies more for Caucasians. Indian people use oil in their hair like African people do
@KaliKali-hv9bt
@KaliKali-hv9bt 3 жыл бұрын
See, I asumed whites and indians couldn't use oil do to the build up on their hair, but didn't know indians used oil like African people.
@jeanninegorden8142
@jeanninegorden8142 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaliKali-hv9bt many Indians use Aryuvedic health and hair care. Aryuvedic hair care includes tons of oils and herbs/powders
@sweetmango4190
@sweetmango4190 3 жыл бұрын
When stylists go to beauty school, they only learn about straight caucasian hair and how to damage it (straightening, colouring, ...) and keep it medium length 😂. You know you can't trust a stylist when he/she tells you that oil is bad/stupid, that your hair is hard to manage when you have average, loose caucasian curls (I witnessed it) or that your hair is too long and wants to cut it when you purposefully grown it out 😂
@BionAvastar3000
@BionAvastar3000 3 жыл бұрын
*Caucasians with straight hair. All the curlies use oils and butters, esp. the ones following the CGM
@rdejlee9288
@rdejlee9288 3 жыл бұрын
Also check out Cruly Chemist she also touched on oils....:)
@Mrs_Canary
@Mrs_Canary 3 жыл бұрын
Looks amazing I started my no raw oils journey in March finally found a stylist. I'm excited. Never though my hair could wash and go. Thank u for showing your process
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve done 7 big chops and for sure know what works for my hair. That’s why I always maintain that everyone should learn their hair, figure out what it likes and dislikes, and make adjustments as needed. Hair for sure is not a one size fits all approach. It’s personal and you have to do what works best for you and your hair.
@allisond4916
@allisond4916 3 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent analysis. Oils and butters are an important part of my hair care routine. Know thine own hair.
@Melissa85Bee
@Melissa85Bee 3 жыл бұрын
I've personally stopped using oils and butters on my hair by default a while ago because I was over the greasy stains and the whole LCO/LOC method left my hair dry. Now using this method and the products they suggested, my wash n go's have been so amazing. I'm loving my curls more. 😍
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Aww I love that for you!! I'm loving my wash n gos too sis
@sayladytea
@sayladytea 3 жыл бұрын
My hair demands oils and butters ... but yes sis sometimes I'm channeling that soul glow. Smh 🤣🤣
@anele.nsithole5593
@anele.nsithole5593 3 жыл бұрын
More power to you sis!
@TheRealBlackPanda
@TheRealBlackPanda 2 жыл бұрын
I've also noticed a lot of people saying this are low porosity/fine strands and I mean need I say more? Certain hair types can't take heavy oils and butters like other hair types may be able to. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bath water. There's no need for a war on hair butters/oils and if you don't want to use them then don't. You can still detox your scalp and hair and use oils in your regime.
@afrakoma_a
@afrakoma_a 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. As a fellow Ghanaian, Shea butter and oils are a way of life for my hair and skin. That will never ever change for me, kraaa! 🤷🏾‍♀️ The only modification I made is avoiding oils on my scalp where possible due to being diagnosed sebhorreic dermatitis and that was before any trends or fads. Oils get used on my scalp edges though. Butters get used on my hair and scalp because of the soothing properties. I'm getting tired of all these wild trends people jump on without actually understanding their own hair. Ye a br3 paa! Hair varies so much for each individual. Some of us have different textures all at once. We should all just focus and pay attention to our own head and manage the hair and scalp accordingly, depending on what it needs. This can change from time to time so just roll with it, no wahala 🙂
@MalkiaNzinga
@MalkiaNzinga 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! My main rebuttal to this new trend is that we as original people have used unprocessed butters and oils forever! What will you do with your hair when you can't use all these modern processed products? Not everyone cares to wear wash n go's or loose curls defining styles. I'm rolling with my ancestors into these modern times....!
@tigereyes5
@tigereyes5 3 жыл бұрын
What situation are you imagining when we wouldn’t have access to formulated hair products?
@maramma4780
@maramma4780 3 жыл бұрын
@@tigereyes5 I'm saying 😭 is a zombie apocalypse coming??
@LovelySunshine17
@LovelySunshine17 3 жыл бұрын
I love my oils and butters. But I also love shampoo and ayurvedic cleansers, so I haven't had any of the issues that I think some of the people who jumped on the no oils, no butters train have had. I don't plan on switching things up for now since what I've been doing has been working for my hair.
@atarabat-yah2437
@atarabat-yah2437 3 жыл бұрын
I love when educated people with COMMON SENSE speak on things. So refreshing. Thank you
@diedrecallam
@diedrecallam 3 жыл бұрын
Girl, you are spot on! It's all pretty basic hair maintenance. Different styling methods call for different processes and products. Products have changed a lot over the years and will continue to change and inspire adjustments/improvements to our bank of techniques. I actually find the cult following really alarming, especially since some of the products recommended contain oils and butters. Your video needs 500,000 more views.
@katrinaKJB1611
@katrinaKJB1611 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! Since I found out my hair was low porosity years ago. I stopped using butters and would use a raw oil occasionally but didn't feel like I needed a seperate oil at the time (I used oils and butters in formulated products). Over the last year I've been experiencing really dry ends and didn't know what else to do. In the last month I stared using a homemade pomade and it's been a game changer! The castor oil with the beeswax really seal my ends and have saved my hair! I think all these people jumping on the bandwagon haven't been cleansing their hair properly and think the butters and oils were inherently the problem.
@Nephtouille
@Nephtouille 3 жыл бұрын
Hi ! Everything you said made sense. Personally, putting raw oils and butters did help me get my hair more "pliable" at first. I used to follow your regimen but I tried the detox since February and haven't put raw oils and butters ever since. My hair feels softer at the touch through out the week. Also I am a mother of 3 and this basic hair care is just perfect for me and my really tight curls. And yes, a good detox is important for our hair.
@banandababa
@banandababa 3 жыл бұрын
Your hair looks so good 😭 tempted to treat myself with a trip to the Curl Bar. As for the topic of this video, I can see why the simplified method of haircare has been eye opening for many people. For many years on KZbin we have been encouraged by natural hair gurus to buy so many products that do not really benefit us. Not talking about you in particular, but most gurus in general. It has been refreshing to realise from the hair professionals that we can do extra steps if we want to, but it isn't necessary. However I definitely think it's rude and patronising for anyone to say that using oil is 'stupid'. Personally, I have only seen benefits from cutting out oils and butters in my own hair but each to their own, people gotta do what works for them🙏
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I honestly think, do what works for you and share that with others because it might work for them too but lets be reasonable with each other.
@KaliKali-hv9bt
@KaliKali-hv9bt 3 жыл бұрын
exactlty. While I'm Not talking about this KZbinr, I follow a lot of natural hair youtubers and they always have promote whatever is popular, i.e., rice water, shea butter, LOC method, Shea moiture, Cantu, Meille products, etc.....but then I finally came to another youtuber who doesn't believe in any of that and just uses Blue magic grease after washing. No conditioner. She lives in Mississsippi and has really beautiful natural hair. And that's what I'm doing for now. And now I'm just learning about the no butter/no oil trend. It's been a journey and somewhat expensive one for me..LOL
@19ShairLove88
@19ShairLove88 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your issues with no butters no oil, however some of the arguments you are making are not counterpoints to what they have said or written from the 30 day detox challenge. For example, their challenge was not "no butters and oils" it was specifically about raw oils and butters. They use products with oils and butters formulated in it. Additionally, the women who set this specific challenge did not propose that their "methods" or guidance is brand new or novel. They have said it is about going back to basic of hair care. The reality is, a lot of women (including myself) are trying to figure out how to care for our natural textures and experiencing serious hair issues trying out so many things without basic knowledge. As a Haitian American, I grew up with relaxing hair as the default texture which caused a lot of confusion and missteps to proper natural hair care. Everyone did not grow up understanding our natural texture. Actually I think you and these women agree a lot more than disagree--the chain of information sharing has altered the message. I agree that the "taking stupid" out of hair care can sound harsh but it was in response to their experience in the salon with women's poor hair care habits and hair conditions. Women would come in "citing" youtube videos as their main source for information. I defending these hair stylist overall message because it is helpful (of course we don't all have to agree with their views) and anchored in basic hair care.
@HappilyNappy000
@HappilyNappy000 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I think you expressed what I was trying to say in a better way😉
@tigereyes5
@tigereyes5 3 жыл бұрын
You put this really well and part of their attitude (which is bad imo) is partly due to their information being misrepresented. Ironically Leila mentions in this video that we should be open to exploring new information but it’s clear from most of these comments that most people are not at all, despite the fact that some of these same ones are criticising that this isn’t in fact new information after all. New is relative I guess to when you become aware of something. Many here are declaring that what (or their presumption of what) their ancestors did is enough to ignore any new information Black experts explore in our hair care and I presume are under the impression their ancestors were against innovation. But gels, oils/butters, grease and DIY have all been present in the NHM for ages now and had their various waves of authority or popularity. The critics are often in an opposing camp too. Eg it wasn’t long ago when back to grease had its wave and the comments on oils/butters in these sections were less than favourable and being described as “new age” as some are describing gels right now!
@togetherwecan3560
@togetherwecan3560 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the no butters and no oils whether it was raw or an ingredient in something we were using was to refrain from using them in the 30 day challenge. Actually, there were five(5) ingredients that we were ask not to use. It was to get a feel of how our hair would react and if we thought that discarding them from our regimen would be a good thing, if not, continue as we were. Their in-site for this challenge really worked for me and started me on a more healthier head of hair. If I could only stop being lazy about washing my hair, my hair would not lose moisture. But that’s a whole different subject.😏
@ChristsChemist
@ChristsChemist 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I stopped using as a result of hearing about the BGC method was henna. But I already suspected that my overuse of it (to try and cover my grays) was the culprit to my hair being dry, and had planned to stop using it as a result. So when I heard it mentioned by Fo Adunni a week or so later, it was just a confirmation. As far as oils are concerned, I stopped using those for a period of time, starting in 2019, when I heard that Kimberly Cherelle's hair had benefited from that change to her regimen. But once I stopped using henna, and thus began my transition to growing out my grays, I started using oils again to tame my fly aways. Since gray hair has more of a tendency to be frizzy even than curly hair with pigmentation. I've been using shampoos for several years now and I had already been the type of person who uses plant based gels, namely Kinky Curly Curling Custard. The one thing I find confusing is that if their method worked so well as they claim, why does it require women to do a big chop. You would think that the hair appearance and integrity should improve overtime without such drastic measures...
@aleyiaross9308
@aleyiaross9308 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you girl butters and oil, oils and butter all day. To each his own.
@BabeEli3
@BabeEli3 3 жыл бұрын
My hair is 4b/4c I don't use gel in my hair, I only do twists and twist-outs. I will always use oils and butters in my hair because that is what works for me.
@Cassidy248
@Cassidy248 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, like not everyone does wash n gos. I wear a hijab so like how?? My hair is literally always in braids and twists so I condition and seal my hair with an oil and oil my scalp frequently. This whole gel thing is not for everyone.
@monicaDD
@monicaDD 3 жыл бұрын
I was using RAW oils and butters and it wasn’t working. Using products that are formulated with both and stopping right there was the game changer. I was doing too much so this “trend” got me back to what I was doing before being influenced to DIY. Mind you both coincided with more black brands coming out with what we needed in our products. I could’ve stopped sooner (with the black brands) but didn’t realize I was doing too much.
@Miranda-gi9fx
@Miranda-gi9fx 2 жыл бұрын
To each his own.
@Vivrancy
@Vivrancy 3 жыл бұрын
That’s so crazy you posted this. This morning washing my hair. I literally told myself I’m reducing my butters & oils by 90%. Here’s why: Back in 2019… when I was using marshmallow root mucilage & aloe vera gel to detangle my hair prior to washing…. my hair became extremely healthy overtime. I limited my oil use at that time when I assumed that my sulfate-free cleansers and cowashes weren’t strong enough to remove thick coatings of oils. I’ve been too lazy to cut up aloe vera leaves and so forth and been using oil treatments to detangle my hair. Last week, I felt as though my conditioner never penetrated my hair. Over the last year, my ends have been splitting, itchy scalp, etc. Today I clarified my hair and it feels soo good. I finally removed all that oil butter build up. My scalp is clean. My conditioner hydrated my hair. I definitely overdid it with the oils and butters. I need to limit my use of oils especially using gentle cleansers.
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
A clarifying shampoo is the best feeling when your hair isn't acting right... it's honestly like a reset button! So glad you did it and feel the benefits too 🙌🏾
@electraswarosky8474
@electraswarosky8474 2 жыл бұрын
Which oils do you use, and when ? Please help me, I'm so confuse with all those steps 😣
@Leah_Tewari
@Leah_Tewari 3 жыл бұрын
Very well said! Thank you for also providing the historical context, common sense, and science too. Been using oils and butters for thousands of years - transcending time and generations and CULTURES! All of a sudden it doesn’t work. 🤦🏾‍♀️
@GlitterSkies
@GlitterSkies 2 жыл бұрын
My issue with this isn’t even that they said oils and butters were bad, it’s the entire delivery. They insult people, give half information and say people are purposely misunderstanding them and that everyone should buy some course or ebook or watch a 2 hour live stream to understand. One moment it’s “oils and butters are terrible” then it’s “the wrong oils and butters are terrible” then it’s some other explanation with a sour undertone underneath that we should bow down and take their advice because they’re professionals. That’s not the right way to sell an idea and I don’t know how they expect grown adults to listen to their condescending, sorry “truthful” tones. This is coming from someone who stopped using butters and oils years ago because they didn’t align with my goals. There’s a way to say what you need to say without insulting women who have grown up without proper knowledge or hair products.
@gettat5832
@gettat5832 2 жыл бұрын
This is the video I’ve been looking for!!!! Loveeeee this
@tieashasamuels2627
@tieashasamuels2627 2 жыл бұрын
I recently started "researching/learning" about this method/challenge & although you posted this months ago, it popped in my feed due to algorithm of my recent search words. This broke it down so eloquently from the perspective that majority of us grew up on when caring for our natural hair. Thank you for posting this & adding your opinion. I also have that same issue w/ my wash & go's. Especially in the front of my hair.
@quanitawinters-tyler3770
@quanitawinters-tyler3770 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried this trend and my hair has done well. I made sure to deep conditioning more and the cooling custard I use helped me retain moisture better than oils or butters did. I’ve also learned my scalp doesn’t love Shea butter, so finding products without has also been a challenge. But I have started to add a leave in conditioner and a cream to my custard to test how it would work in case I need some extra care for winter, and I like how that feels. People definitely need to pay attention to what works on their hair do what works for them.
@DivaViews
@DivaViews 2 жыл бұрын
But where did you get that steamer?🤔
@catherineking6325
@catherineking6325 3 жыл бұрын
😊Laila well put, thank you. It’s all about a balance. Do your own research 😊👍 and do what works for your hair.
@Earthslittlesecrets
@Earthslittlesecrets 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't used oils and butter in my hair for over 5 years. I was told years ago that oils and butters block water from the hair. It has changed my hair for the better.
@chelsieromero4874
@chelsieromero4874 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I always thought Shea Butter was too heavy for my hair in which it is. I used to do the LOG method(Leave in, Oil, Gel) or sometimes the LOC method(Leave in, Oil, custard). I realized after a while that my hair needed a heavier sealant. I started using Mango Butter which is lighter than Shea Butter but still gets the job done. And I have different hair types on my head so the looser curls were always defined while the tighter curls were never defined and frizzy. I have extremely frizzy hair. I also started doing hot oil treatments with Mango Butter instead of my regular oil. It dramatically helped with the frizz and all of my hair is now fully defined. I also use a clarifying shampoo biweekly. I believe in having a clean scalp and using store bought shampoo and clarifying shampoo regularly. I love my oils and Butters and will continue using them💆🏽‍♀️...I love and live by my diy flaxseed gel. I use a store bought curling custard only when I am going down the road as My infused oil contains cold pressed neem oil which ain't too pleasant 🤢 and I ain't trying to kill no one. I also seal in all of that goodness with my raw Mango Butter. So I use my leave in conditioner, my infused ayurvedic oil, my flaxseed gel, and my Mango Butter. If I'm going down the road that same day I use just a little bit of the custard to help with the neem smell. The custard is Butter based so unlike many custards that are oil based, the custard has both water and oil/Butters.
@christy7516
@christy7516 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with what you said. This method mainly caters to people looking for definition. A lot of type 4 people think they have no curl pattern but it's mainly due to heavy use of oil and butters. If you clarify and use a conditioner with no silicones heavy oils etc then use a gel you will get amazing definition . I've done it before. Gels are the only thing with lasting definition for type four wash and gos whether it's wetline or ecostyler . Butters and oils weigh down hair and are for protective styling. In this case definition doesn't matter ! I think their twistout with mousse thing is ground breaking. The definition will be banging, the hair is fluffy.. it's amazing.. so I already knew that if I want shrinkage, coils etc for a look I drop silicones, butters and oils then when I wanna protective style or weigh my hair down, I then use shampoo and conditioner with butters or silicones and stuff in it! Realizing this will change people's lives.
@a.b.2405
@a.b.2405 3 жыл бұрын
I limited my use of raw oils and butters. I pre-poo with my oil mix and then wash my hair twice (it’s just a habit, wash your hair to clean and then wash your hair to prepare for a treatment), deep condition my hair, oil my scalp only just to massage my scalp for fun. I style and only seal my ends with a butter. It seems to be doing well since I am loving my deep conditioner right now. I wonder how the BCG method would work if you’re heat-styling your hair since a lot of heat-protectant serums contain silicones and oils within their first five ingredients.
@Nique-nk7sz
@Nique-nk7sz 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day do what's best for you and your hair....loved that you touched on them cause I am an oil and butter gal!!
@l.patrick3155
@l.patrick3155 3 жыл бұрын
Just customise your hair regimen to suit your own unique needs. It's not all about length, achieving the 'perfect' wash 'n' go & such. Healthy hair & scalp - the end goal, in my humble opinion ✌🏽😘...
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
YES! Love this and agree
@l.patrick3155
@l.patrick3155 3 жыл бұрын
@@FusionofCultures Thanks, Laila 😘!
@Queentingz321
@Queentingz321 3 жыл бұрын
Whew ngl Laila, seeing you wash out that gorgeous wash n go chaiii e dey pain me ohh 😩
@DefineMorena
@DefineMorena 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣
@OohlalaHolly
@OohlalaHolly 3 жыл бұрын
Same!! How dare she!!
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
lmao!!! Dont know me girl... I really wanted to wear a straight wig.
@OohlalaHolly
@OohlalaHolly 3 жыл бұрын
@@FusionofCultures you hurt our feelings!!
@ToniToussaint
@ToniToussaint 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts is that the membrane being coated is a way to help seal in moisture.
@rubylioness727
@rubylioness727 3 жыл бұрын
I love your reaction to this topic… I agree with you about using the oils. I use many different types if oils separately and blended based on what i want need at the time but that’s all i use. I do not use soaps on my hair and do not use creams and stuff from the store. I make my own tea concoctions and elixirs tinctures yada yada…I have been natural for over ten years and i have tried many techniques and advice that helped sometimes and did not help a great deal depending on what i was trying to achieve. I just had to learn my hair and skin and how it responded to certain things. I researched and read about herbs and oils benefits and that’s how i learned what was best for ME. My hair grows so well now and is so healthy and I attribute that simply to doing the research and learning for myself.
@FusionofCultures
@FusionofCultures 3 жыл бұрын
Doing what works for you and knowing your hair is really the key 🔑
@tapsthandy152
@tapsthandy152 3 жыл бұрын
This is really a great video. Thank you Laila, hair-care is so diverse do what works for you period.
@claudettemcleod7877
@claudettemcleod7877 3 жыл бұрын
what is the name of the steamer that you are using?
@MiVidaBellisima
@MiVidaBellisima 3 жыл бұрын
I gave it a try and liked it. Now as the snow approaches in a couple months, I’ll be going back to more creams to protect my hair from the elements. I will be clarifying my hair though bc that was a step I rarely did before.
@nightangel3578
@nightangel3578 3 жыл бұрын
I literally have nothing to add. I agree and I'm going to do what I want with my hair unless advised by my doctor.
@kcrinkaful
@kcrinkaful 3 жыл бұрын
Rien à ajouter, well said! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💋
@catsy88
@catsy88 3 жыл бұрын
I follow the BGC no oils or butter method and my biggest take away is that washing and doing my hair takes only 2 hours at most and that is a major improvement from my all day wash days. My hair is healthier but I credit that mostly to having a actual routine that I follow and take better care of my hair.
@kimkillett4895
@kimkillett4895 3 жыл бұрын
Speak the truth Sis. You are right on point! 💯🎯 I love it! Thanks for this video. One Love 💕
@naturalnoni8212
@naturalnoni8212 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! You make some excellent points!
@YummyCandiCollection
@YummyCandiCollection 3 жыл бұрын
OMG!! I'm a small KZbinr so I didn't do a video on this topic but it's like you took all of my thoughts about no oils, no butters trend out of my head. NONE of the hyped information was new. I clarify weekly, layer moisture then seal.
@PreppyFay12
@PreppyFay12 3 жыл бұрын
I like the point about Modern and means to an end. They have mentioned that their hair care practices are a modern approach for the “modern” woman so it makes sense that the practices and products we would use now would not be the same as those of our ancestors. As a Nigerian I’m grateful our ancestors figured out the great properties of oils and butters and that now we can have scientists formulate these ingredients into hair products for us to use. For me my end goal was more hydrated hair not necessarily for a wash n go but to matain strand strength. My hair is more hydrated since following their hair care practices. My old way of caring for my hair was not helping me to achieve hydrated hair even though many of the practices were popular on KZbin.
@divineacceleration1979
@divineacceleration1979 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this Laila. I agree totally. Whatever works for you works. But oils and butters have been working for the world before this 'revelation'🙄. My hair was dry and felt damaged and I did a season of oils and butters on my hair itself for abt 2 months and just twisted it up, and boom my wash and goes are now bomb where they were dry, poofy and lifeless before. They work🤷🏾‍♀️. But something else can also work. There is room for everything and anything in excess is bad. So I'm in my new season of wash and goes just like you and enjoying the heck out of them just like I enjoyed my twists😁. Be well and safe and I'm totally enjoying the consistency😊
@Amaspiritartist3
@Amaspiritartist3 2 жыл бұрын
I am also not about to stop using oils and butters, but I have a question for you. As an African American woman, I grew up getting my scalp oiled primarily with some on the hair. Did you grow up getting your scalp oiled, or was it primarily your hair?
@nettelove2283
@nettelove2283 3 жыл бұрын
I have tried butters over the years, but my hair hates them, I have low porosity fine hair. As a young girl growing up, grease was my mother's choice for my hair needs, however, for the last fifteen years, oils have been my saving Grace, in addition to light hair creams, no gel at all. I went back to hair grease for a while, but it didn't work, and it broke my face out really bad. I've been seeing a lot of naturals going back to hair grease, they allege that their hair is thriving like never before. As with all grooming techniques, it's a matter of preference.
@Hawaiiansilky
@Hawaiiansilky 3 жыл бұрын
Girl can you share where you got these glasses from.. I just love the shape and would like to find a pair like that..
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