No charges in NYC subway shooting; Brooklyn DA cites "evidence of self-defense"

A man was shot with his own gun after an argument on the subway during the Thursday evening rush in Downtown Brooklyn. CBS New York's Doug Williams reports.

[@mister_manager]

I don't usually support people taking phone footage instead of helping, but in this case the footage exonerated the right guy!

[@Ms.takenlee]

How?Let's use logic, shall we? He CHOSE to use hands when he could've just as easily started shooting. Yellow jacket was losing the FAIR fight and the wench stabbed black hoodie in the back. she was still armed, black hoodie was outnumbered. He said, "I'm going to get you locked up." "Give me the knofe". She denied what she did, and they were going to run off until he pulled out the pipe

[@myisharodriguez9972]

@@Ms.takenleeoh please the aggressor was gonna shoot him regardless… he wasn’t carrying a gun for nothing

[@blackcherry6877]

They could have done both, record and help.

[@Ms.takenlee]

@myisharodriguez9972 you can see the future? Why did he take his jacket off? If he was gonna shoot, regardless, why not have the pipe on him?

[@myisharodriguez9972]

@@Ms.takenleeya love defending criminals foh he was looking for a target

[@jimcarlin4586]

Sad state of affairs when self-defense is controversial.

[@christopherreeves7915]

Good this should be deemed self defense!

[@cezarypruszkowski9523]

Wait! disarming a person doesn’t give you a right to shoot them. If the disarmed guy lunged at the gun, then ok maybe but there’s no evidence of it.

[@jackblack4654]

​@@cezarypruszkowski9523 White guilt?

[@honkler5974]

@@cezarypruszkowski9523sorry but when you escalate an unarmed conflict by revealing your special move the other party just might copycat. Then if you lose it must’ve been a skill issue

[@cezarypruszkowski9523]

@@honkler5974 Yes, they could copycat and that’s what apparently happened but my point is that it’s no longer self-defense- that’s just personal revenge.

[@meganberardino441]

The unidentified woman & 32 yr old man pulled out weapons first. After the woman stabbed this man,is when the gun was drawn 🤷🏻‍♀️ idk, this is just my opinion. If this 38 yr old man survives, couldn't he say the gun he pulled on these 2 was in self-defense??

[@ryanfranklin2224]

I didn't see any other passengers do anything except scream and cower

[@coyotestylepro1150]

Yup. That's how it works 😅

[@bronxkies]

There was 1 dude in a safety vest that initially broke them up and calmed things down after he was stabbed. However, the aggressor escalated things after that when he realized he was stabbed.

[@laduralamayimba]

that's what new yorkers do in chaos.

[@johnnyfive1412]

Daniel Penny was defending himself too and yet he was criminally charged. Explain that one. I know, double standard based on the race of the person defending himself.

[@ChuckieBeKinky91]

hes not black

[@ultramag0343]

How was he defending himself when he came up from behind and put him in a chokehold and choked h until he was lifeless ? You 🤡s get on here and say anything that you think sounds good to yourself !

[@Ironclad601]

That was no self-defense.

[@Usrnamntfund]

2 weapons vs none 🤔

[@Theghostofpeter]

Now free Daniel penny.

[@onceagain6184]

NEVER !

[@DubCmusicTV]

@@onceagain6184may you meet a 36 yo man want to talk and bother you

[@bettyboop1568]

Not the same!!!

[@Theghostofpeter]

@@bettyboop1568 , why cause he’s white? Sounds like racism plays a factor in Allen braggs deciding to charge someone..

[@slapshot68]

@@onceagain6184u wouldn’t say that if a maniac went on ur train

[@dvdzvc]

imagine the chaos if you can go to jail for defending yourself ..

[@remypereira3096]

My friend sister told me that she’s happy in Florida and never coming back

[@jessygarci]

I would like to know where in flordia this is. Because Flordia is just as bad except without subways. That's why they have to make commercials for no one to go there because people dont know how to act. Flordia also has a higher crime rate.

[@remypereira3096]

Broward County

[@yarahgil7452]

Florida is very bad too jajaja what she talk about

[@NewRapUG]

Word. 🌴 🙌✨️

[@mikasjewels5772]

The bigger issue is bm.

[@Babyboo-qd8wb]

And spanish

[@7418anthony]

BLM

[@CarsonDouglas]

Expound...🤔

[@_Spicymorenita]

That part !!

[@_Spicymorenita]

@@Babyboo-qd8wbHow ???

[@Nymaga]

Everyone as the right to protect themselves

[@cezarypruszkowski9523]

Wait! disarming a person doesn’t give you a right to shoot them. If the disarmed guy lunged at the gun, then ok maybe but there’s no evidence of it.

[@Nymaga]

Question my friend…If anyone coming at you armed or not armed to harm you , will you stay still and let it happen ?

[@jackblack4654]

​@@cezarypruszkowski9523white guilt?

[@cezarypruszkowski9523]

@@jackblack4654 no lol, I’m proud of being wht. It’s just that we should still be objective.

[@cezarypruszkowski9523]

What a contrast between Daniel Penny and this guy! Self-defense here but not there?? That’s life under blk rule.

[@Babyboo-qd8wb]

First of all, he was defending his life and he was Spanish not black, the other guy took it upon himself to help he wasn't targeted with a gun

[@notafortnitegamer]

@@Babyboo-qd8wbyea he took it upon himself to defend others... how dare he!

[@re5nf]

Facts

[@cezarypruszkowski9523]

@@Babyboo-qd8wb Spanish or black..both POC. That’s all it matters. The other guy Penny brought down a man who was threatening lives of other passengers. Response to was justified. Did he go overboard? Not sure. I wouldn’t go that far but remember the context- Penny is a former marine.

[@ChuckieBeKinky91]

Daniel is not a person of color

[@christianguzman6510]

Wanna be a bully ???? 😅😅 Backfired

[@Ms.takenlee]

@erkuza9220 she stabbed him when yellowjacket was losing the Fair fight. she was still armed, black hoodie was outnumbered. He said, "I'm going to get you locked up." "Give me the knofe". She denied what she did, and they were going to run off until he pulled out the pipe

[@TheJbonez1000]

​@@Ms.takenleethe racist black bull ran into real matadors

[@chinatownboy7482]

32 year old being attacked. Only 1 woman tried to help him by stabbing the attacker.

[@johnlansing2902]

Damn did the da just say self defense ? Wow .

[@MrInsurance8]

always alot of tension on that A train in brooklyn alot of crazy people riding that line

[@kairoperu1587]

Correct. Only a avid rider would know this is absolutely true. A/C/B lines when it hits Brooklyn bridge on down get really crazy, strange and ugly.

[@MrInsurance8]

@@kairoperu1587 i stay away from the C at all cost fuck it if i gotta take the J to Manhattan just to come back to Brooklyn 🤣 at the very least the A is express 🤣🤣🤣

[@rogerjohnson833]

YES INDEED, IT WAS SELF DEFENSE.

[@mike-xn1qj]

Not after you take his gun away.

[@mariatheresavonhabsburg]

​@@mike-xn1qj Who said the gunshot didn't happen while they were struggling for the gun?

[@mike-xn1qj]

The "struggle for the gun" came about because he was being stabbed.

[@mariatheresavonhabsburg]

@@mike-xn1qj And... Why was the man stabbed?

[@mike-xn1qj]

@@mariatheresavonhabsburg Because the girl didn't like seeing her boyfriend losing the fight. You cannot justify her escalation to then denounce his. The guy probably started the fistfight, but you cannot turn that into a sword fight just because you think you are the only one with a sword.

[@user-tr8fs7lm8r]

Why haven't they dropped charges against Daniel Penny?

[@zxcv2705]

What happened

[@carlorenne]

Because Daniel Penny’s victim was unarmed when he murdered him. Don’t compare apples to oranges.

[@Underdog271]

@@carlorenne🎯 exactly 👍🏼

[@piento76]

​@@carlorennehe did not murdered him....but if he was black it would be self defense!

[@alephnull7410]

@@carlorenneDaniel Penny was protecting a train car full of passengers. These two clowns were fighting over who scuffed one of their Nikes. How bout them apples?

[@CrystalDolison]

Where was the national guard….

[@atrailmckinley4786]

In Touristy Stations

[@samJones-dt2fe]

Thats what i said

[@strawberriebabieex3]

so when a white transit rider uses self defense they are charged but if a black person does then there are no charges. why? I agree with the need for self defense but not with the unequal application of law by the government. the media should be highlighting this injustice.

[@user-eb7sh1pr7y]

It's right time to live side by side with security to protect people

[@jimmystone7325]

He will probably be charged with having a gun in NYC

[@Far_Rock_Savior]

It wasn’t his gun the guy he shot pulled it out and they wrestled for it

[@yarahgil7452]

The black man think the another man is Spanish Venezuela because he look like that the. The black man told him why he punch the police because he think he the Venezuela man hurt the police because he look Spanish but he not

[@fuse825]

I was in the station when this happened.. didn’t know what happened till someone told me during the incident.. I’m also glad it was all recorded because this man could have been locked up if it wasn’t

[@samJones-dt2fe]

The chick should have minded her business. It started out as a fair fight. Two men fighting. The girl got mad and stabbed him because her man was getting his aaa kicked. She escalated the entire situation. She needs to ne charged.

[@manaking651]

The girl caused the shooting ask me why?

[@MsVictory626]

Why

[@_Spicymorenita]

You ignoring the BIGOT , in the room !! Ask me why ??

[@Bedstuys-Favorite]

Bully Did Bad😵😵 Almost Got A Brand New Suit 4Easter😵😮

[@13Liberty50]

No charges in NYC subway shooting; The founders of this country created the bill of rights including the 2nd amendment because they are absolute birth rights. The founders, the 2nd amendment is the commonsense gun law. A well-regulated militia, the military Is to be regulated so the military stays under civilian control and management. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, no law shall be enacted to limit or control the right of the citizens to own and carry arms. The founders warned against people like these socialists who will try to take that away and then tyranny will follow.

[@TheJbonez1000]

The racist black bull ran into 2 real matadors

[@newyorkcity76]

Self defence but. don’t shoot

[@davinxi5926]

Cool case of self help defense and self defense too

[@BrickBreaker21]

This is insanity. We do not know happened right BEFORE the video starts. We just see the guy saying he's gonna "beat him up". But then yellow jacket stands up and calls him fight. This was a ruse, because he knew his gf had a knife. She was keeping close to the situation. As soon as she got the chance, she attacks the man. Only then he take out his gun.

[@PaulyWally30]

2:29 Eww, what's that? Why does it sound like that?

[@vsoraya]

Criminals have the nervous to ride for free.

[@davinxi5926]

Why are you doing such a huge operation for such a small thing? It’s like doing DUI checkpoints when you have an obvious violence problem

[@talesfromthehoodtv503]

What about the girl that stabbed the guy ? They were having a fair fight till she stabbed him,he didn't pull out a weapon until after he got stabbed,are we all just ignoring these facts ?

[@jackblack4654]

White guilt?

[@talesfromthehoodtv503]

@@jackblack4654 im Hispanic 100 percent

[@MsVictory626]

Agree, the media isn’t saying anything about her 🤦‍♀️

[@frienjie7148]

yeah, the weapon the fare-evading criminal wasn’t supposed to have in the first place. 🙄

[@leekvision2673]

Let's be honest and just call it for what it is... They stop fare beaters, NOT BECAUSE they want to get guns off the street, but to make sure that the MTA gets it's money.

[@Bedstuys-Favorite]

They Almost BODIED BIG Man🫨--NYC🗽 Standin Back UP‼️💪🏿💪🏿💯

[@garrysaint-vil725]

It a disgrace

[@user-fg5md8tv3d]

MTA SERVICE BUSES MTA OK is OK

[@juanitaortiz1455]

Self defense very clear

[@miltonperez3421]

Good. Now leave the woman alone too

[@mdeezy1986]

No

[@benjybronk7718]

What about Daniel Penny???

[@Ms.takenlee]

That woman stabbed him(black hoodie) multiple times when they were fighting ,THEN he got his gun. How come they cut that part out?

[@erkuza9220]

He was stabbed while on top the other guy and before he pulled out the gun the other two were backing off. He was the aggressor during the whole thing.

[@Ms.takenlee]

How could they be backing off if he was on top of him? Willfully obtuse and trolling in the 2024...

[@erkuza9220]

@@Ms.takenleeDid you not see the video or are just being willfully ignorant? She stabbed him, he got off ontop the other guy, he went and got his gun out of his jacket. They weren't attacking him during the period he got off and went to get the gun out of his jacket. If he would of just walked away it would of ended there.

[@Ms.takenlee]

@@erkuza9220 how was he going to keep them from leaving? Or having the wench staB him again?

[@Ms.takenlee]

@erkuza9220 she was still armed, black hoodie was outnumbered. USE YOUR BRAIN! He said, "I'm going to get you locked up." "Give me the knofe". She denied what she did, and they were going to run off until he pulled out the pipe

[@ffejgib]

Stay out of the cities.

[@user-er3ri6sc3j]

This is a fight between a black man and a Hispanic couple. Both parties had a knife and the black man pulled out a gun because he was out numbered. Both parties should be charged.

[@garrysaint-vil725]

Doug Williams is on channel 2 now and he got glasses that man used to be on sny

[@upat65]

I don’t care if that was self defense. It was a reckless thing to do on a crowded subway car. So many people could have been hurt. I think the guy should be charged with something.

[@_Spicymorenita]

Would you say that if it were a white supremacist spouting his hate to a black couple , same scenario!! Exactly!! Now check yourself and ask for forgiveness 😂

[@isaiahsuero3668]

Wait but wat about Daniel penny he did the exact same thing

[@ultramag0343]

No ! These people had weapons and The man Penny killed didn't and didn't touch anyone

[@matildamorales655]

👍

[@jarrodyuki7081]

Haiti investment!!!!!!!! 2. Hsrs 3. Abd megsorusons for all blacks and Hispanics aged 20-35………………

[@zavac3116]

Free KAY FLOCKAAA

[@brightonchou1393]

the woman is a rat act.

[@CarsonDouglas]

I despise her. Back stabbing 🤬🤣

[@jarrodyuki7081]

Haiti investment mega prisons!!!!!!!!!!!!! And hsrs!!!!!

[@yarahgil7452]

Ok the black man think the another man was hidoznish Venezuela. That what the black man think that why they happens but the man is not Venezuela look like Spanish but not

[@alephnull7410]

Self defense you say? Well I’ll be Daniel Penny’d.

[@davinxi5926]

Women should be charged…

[@smartanswer3159]

Now NewYork has self defense, Plenty of people will get their assault charges dismissed

[@onceagain6184]

STOP IT. You are ignorant of the law!

[@Harasnails]

That's good so you would think next time before you say something reckless. Or put your hands on somebody. Happy we have self defense laws in NYC now

[@thedarkage187]

How is yall not charging him because the lady Stabbed him.....That changed the whole case... SHE STABBED HIM.

[@jackblack4654]

Happy Juneteenth black excellence amirite 😁 lol

[@Kwasi1790]

Foundational Blacks always crying

[@thedarkage187]

@@Kwasi1790 And you Tethers immigrants always "Fleeing" your Homeland.

[@rc6071]

Self defense Whattttt Omg r u kidding me

[@Secreebueno]

You haven’t seen the video for sure

[@atrailmckinley4786]

It was self defense. Plain and Simple

[@revamp8835]

I haven’t seen the video unfortunately I live under a rock I guess

[@omt4293]

I hope you’re a troll

[@samueltorres521]

Who started the problem is my question

[@thericashow6797]

I love how they have the footage of the black man entering the train, but they don’t have the footage of the woman fleeing the train after she stabbed a man who is now no longer with us. Congratulations for Daniel, who was only defending his self but the woman is responsible for this as well. She is the reason why the altercation expanded. Justice needs to be served, and she needs to be found

[@bronxkies]

But I thought she was with the 32 year old originally. If that’s the case, then she, too, was trying to defend her friend and did what she could. It’s an unfortunate situation, but at the end of the day, the man they showed WAS the aggressor, and was carrying a gun. If this didn’t happen, then the 32 year old would’ve been the one who passed

[@Ms.takenlee]

@bronxkies they were 2 grown men settling things with hands and that bish stabbed him 5 times minimum in the back. He wasn't able to see her coming

[@InternacionalBoxing]

I hope they never find her

[@bronxkies]

@@Ms.takenlee sure. I get what you mean. I still think it could either way. I don’t think she ought to be charged per se, but I can also see why she would be.

[@imbackdoe7395]

Nope, Blaks be acting up, and now brotha in h3ll

[@misfitallday]

false perceptions pointed at blackppls#stoppromotingfalsenarritive😢😢😢😢

[@Kwasi1790]

FBA are failures

[@hamplus163]

BLM ✊🏿

[@bidhrohi12]

Depends.

[@13Liberty50]

Malcolm X - “The worst enemy that the Negro have is the man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro was not taken, tricked or deceived by the liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the liberal man.”

[@homelessalcoholic2716]

Sit down little boy you're embarrassing yourself 😂

[@tom762x39]

Im glad I moved to Pennsylvania, from NY, AND; have a permit to carry!

[@toniohennessy4155]

Hannah is also a freeloader because he’s not paying his fair but he has got other warrants out so he could’ve been charged for his other crimes but still people have been injured what happens if someone died how is he freeloading in the world welcome to America.

[@13Liberty50]

No charges in NYC subway shooting; The founders of this country created the bill of rights including the 2nd amendment because they are absolute birth rights. The founders, the 2nd amendment is the commonsense gun law. A well-regulated militia, the military Is to be regulated so the military stays under civilian control and management. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, no law shall be enacted to limit or control the right of the citizens to own and carry arms. The founders warned against people like these socialists who will try to take that away and then tyranny will follow.