[No Commentary] Official Chapter 1 Walkthrough: Trial [Pathos Route] | Project: Eden's Garden 「模倣」

This is the official Chapter 1 Walkthrough covering the entire Trial Pathos Route Section.
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[@limjj145]

The Pathos route starts at 1:21:43

[@SHinierthennyourforehead]

peaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak

[@amberr3662]

Poor grace, never getting a rebuttal showdown if Damon shows empathy

[@brodykerby2139]

Pathos could be a good thing? Right?

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Yoooooooo

[@KrewLuvss]

@@amberr3662 atleast we got a new Damon sprite!

[@nataliephan562]

Damon's VA really knocked it out of the park for his delivery in the game. I really felt his disbelief in the pathos route. He's like 'am I really about to say this?'

[@scarlightemperor3410]

It's not really disbelief. It's more so him struggling to open up. He's never really let his guard down around others so him remembering their convos and trying to rationalize it with his logic is his way of justifying it so he can make sense of it.

[@nataliephan562]

@@scarlightemperor3410 he did sound really reluctant to say what he was about to say. Most likely out of a place, where he knew that he would sound weird if he went against his initial accusation. That's sort of why he sounds uncertain to me.

[@lavenderrose82]

My theory on the logos/pathos routes is that like V3 logic and emotion will be a main theme in this game. Like truth and lies for V3. Also both routes reflect both Damon and Diana. Damon usually favors logic over emotion, but him has to choose between using his logic or trusting his emotions in the trial. Even though he logically put together Diana being the culprit, his emotions tell him otherwise. I feel this will play into Damon's growth throughout the story. Diana favors emotions. Maybe her growth could be her learning to trust her emotions and challenging Damon's own beliefs, but also coming to terms of all the death she'll face in the game. Also, something i want to point out. Damon's and Diana's animals are both reptilian and their names both start with D. Diana was already hinted at being the rival.

[@nataliephan562]

@@lavenderrose82 those are very interesting points. They do seem to be setting up for the both of them to be narrative foils that could benefit from learning from their opposing beliefs. Damon learning to become more intune and open with his emotions, while Diana learns to become more pragmatic and realistic. Though because they're so different, they're bound to clash with their different views one way or another. Damon seemed so conflicted about his feelings here already and by being exposed around Diana more, this may fuel into his inner conflict among other things.

[@IM-vv5dm]

I love how Damon stands up for Diana here when no one else does, just like how she stood up for him at the beginning of this chapter. Its clear how the small moments Diana took to check on Damon's well being did leave an impact on him, even if he never openly shows it.

[@clover.8147]

My ship.

[@Chilky-106]

@@clover.8147 gosh, its shipping everywhere in this fandom isnt it?

[@m1.yamxra]

@@Chilky-106lmao this is so real

[@Ededededuarda]

​@@Chilky-106 Its not that deep

[@alifakbar4232]

​@@Chilky-106it's not that deep

[@luluzin5022]

I like that you can solve cases using 100% pure logic, but you don't HAVE to. Damon can also trust his instincts and make a decision based on emotion. Also, Tozu's explanation in this route is very interesting. I imagine that if he hasn't become bored with a trial yet, it's because there are still more mysteries that need to be solved. But if most of the class wants to vote anyway, then he has no choice but to let them vote, because otherwise he would be practically spelling out that they're about to vote for the wrong person. I like that the devs gave players this to think about as a reward for finding the Pathos route.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

Ngl i find it cool too

[@robinbatman9264]

there is an unused way to clear Dianna name the body discovery rules basically if 3 people see a body the bda goes off two people saw the body and it went off so you can clear her name with a rule clarification

[@ateandslayed]

@@robinbatman9264 The rules actually dont specify what the requirements are for the bda to go off

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

@@robinbatman9264 You forgot these : . , , . , .

[@syllable1908]

@@robinbatman9264Maybe this is something Tozu will mention once chapter 2 is released.

[@b04stert04ster]

Personally, I prefer the pathos over the logos route. Not only are we revealed more information about how trials work, but I feel like this is a really key point for Damon's development that the logos route just doesn't cover, even though he's still technically using his instincts there.

[@user-zg2sr4wb6b]

Definitely adds a layer to his character

[@Zumba__]

What is said "Iogos" route? And how is it different from this "Pathos" one?

[@freekzyisjustfreekzy]

​@@Zumba__ Basically referring to emotions and stuff, it's more emotional based thinking than straight logical facts. I think if I recall that correctly. So this is basically has those emotional factors and stuff into the route including the way of thinking in some parts.

[@ethanhinton4549]

​@Zumba__ Logos/logic is the regular route, if you just prove why Dianna isn't the culprit via evidence like a regular Danganronpa game.

[@J.MahargJust]

At the end, Damon was rightfully pissed. Like "I challenged my beliefs and ideals to give you a chance and you tried to become a shonen protagonist?"

[@serena841]

Jesus Christ, it is insane how easily the group is swayed by one person's words. They always seem to share the same opinion until some figure of authority steps up and changes it almost immediately. Wenona was right. They do seem desperate for someone to look up to. On another note, it is nice to see Damon acknowledging everything Diana has done.

[@demosthenes995]

All people are like this to an extent

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

​@@demosthenes995 yeah

[@hinfeeiw4ouru]

“People are so *easy* to fool!”

[@maddiemcnugget1076]

Yeah I like that he gives her credit for being nice! But the herd mentality with this group is crazy. It's certainly intentional, but yeah.

[@P4R0D_Y]

One of my favorite things about the Pathos route is just how silly it is. Non-Senseless, the song that usually plays in chaotic or ridiculous situations in the game, plays during it, and I think it’s really fun that it’s (mainly about Tozu but it’s also) about Damon’s actions. We definitely see a side to him we don’t really see anywhere else, maybe with the exception of when he asks Tozu why he got Wolfgang’s blackmail. Speaking of which, it also reinforces the idea of Damon having more tendencies of the typical Danganronpa antagonist than protagonist by having him ask another question to Tozu and using that information against the other participants. Also, Tozu making Damon say please before answering his question is peak.

[@Kcirrtap]

This trial was shocking And the execution was fire

[@astroatomix]

straight to prison

[@FanganronpaFangans]

STOP THIS MADNESS

[@hasemuras]

i'm going to come for you

[@Kcirrtap]

@@hasemuras ur sentence sucks, it sounds so sus 💀

[@hasemuras]

@@Kcirrtap i will not clarify in which sense i mean it so take a guess 🤰

[@writer1022]

1:24:56 this is what is worth going through pathos route

[@P4R0D_Y]

THE SILLY DAMON SPRITE >>>>

[@freekzyisjustfreekzy]

​@@P4R0D_YFRRRR

[@Zumba__]

What is said "Iogos" route? And how is it different from this "Pathos" one?

[@_emulion_]

@@Zumba__its the logic route, while pathos is the emotion route.

[@Deletedthe-se3eb]

Damon a tozu behind u

[@Bellatrix_Production_Studios]

I feel like the victim and killer for this chapter is a pretty good twist. Think about it, throughout the updates, you’d expect them to be the full support and rival through the whole game. So, seeing them die first is pretty interesting. But, this is just my opinion.

[@BrodyDokkan]

I feel like Diana will be the new support and Wenona the new rival, for as long as they manage to last of course.

[@silverseedva]

@@BrodyDokkan I personally think it would be interesting if Kai was the new support and Diana was the new “antagonist.” There were noticeable efforts to build up a sense of companionship between Kai and Damon in chapter 1, and Diana has the same thing going for her that Wolfgang did (a direct counter to the main character who, if this was a different killing game, could make for a worthwhile protagonist themselves)

[@demosthenes995]

Most people seem to agree with you!

[@BrodyDokkan]

@@silverseedva You got me thinking and I do agree, the main thing that made me think Diana could be support would be the Pathos route but yet again, Damon seemed to really dislike the whole heroic stunt she did at the end. I'm not so sure about her being the new rival, but Kai being the new support makes sense considering their relationship seems to really be improving. I'm still leaning over to Wenona being the new rival tho, her rebuttal showdown really made me think it could work really well.

[@AzraelAsItGetsVtuber]

See, I-- like most people-- was thinking Wenona would become the next rival type. But then I really started to think about it and it didn't really feel right. She definitely fits the role, but she's never really had any opposing views of Damon other than MAYBE the no one's gonna kill thing, but I might be misremembering that. Besides, she definitely seems contrary to just about everyone at all times, which also fits the role, but it still doesn't feel right. I don't know how to explain it, but I'm looking at this the same way wrestling fans figure out the storylines. Let's say you've got a ladder match at a PPV going on with 6 wrestlers involved. You've got 3 pairings of a good guy(a "babyface" or "face" for short) and a bad guy(a heel) and they've started feuding before the PPV prior to this one. You can usually tell who is going to win based off of the intensity of the feuds as well as the amount of time it has been going on, but you can also tell based off how popular that wrestler is. For example, let's say that two of the faces are in feuds with two of the heels. Ok, that potentially rules out 4 competitors. Then you look at how often the remaining two have been winning, how popular they are with the crowd(or hated, in the heel's case) and the winner is usually the one who needs it the most for a push. While Wenona does fit the role of an antagonist that eventually changes, she definitely already has beef with the likes of Grace and Cassidy. And though she contributed a good amount to the trial, she was never really front and center like previous characters who were in that role. Hopefully she takes more of a role in the next chapter to kind of solidify her place in the lineup, but right now I'm just not feeling her as an enemy turned ally type. With the way the devs are subverting original Danganronpa narratives, I'd be more inclined to say Diana, but I really think Grace is going to fill that role. Contrary to Wenona who has beef with a few people, Grace has less of a problem with others with the exception of Wenona and the now deceased Eva. Also, the way they brushed off Diana's speech at the end makes me think they have something different planned for her than to simply be the ally. Actually, that might give more credence to the idea that Diana will become the new rival.. But the fact that Grace was given such an odd amount of spotlight in both the prologue and Chapter 1 without actually shining a direct light on her. Despite her violent disposition and aggressive personality, she isn't stupid by any means. She doesn't interrupt the flow of conversation with goofy voicelines or anything that isn't relevant to the case. Matter of fact, she's awfully quiet for the most part until something she feels she has to vocalize comes to her mind. Not to mention, other than Diana who essentially idolized Wolfgang, Eva who hated him, and Damon who acknowledged him, Grace was not only the closest to Wolfgang, but she was the most broken up about it(Obviously Diana was the saddest, but whereas Diana was silent about everything until pressed, Grace was more active than inactive). I also found what Grace said when they were backing Damon to be interesting. "Even if he(Damon) wasn't there, we would have came to the same conclusion." I think Wolfgang and Grace talked about Damon and Eva the same way Damon and Eva talked about Desmond and Wolfgang and something he had said about Damon had convinced her to trust in him while also convincing her that Eva just couldn't be trusted. Or at the very least, Grace considered the facts at the time of the argument and deduced, much like everyone else, that since it couldn't be Damon, it HAD to be Eva. There's evidence to support the theory they spoke too. In addition to the comment about Damon, when she's yelling at Eva, Grace tells Eva "Only someone as sick-minded as you would kill Wolfgang." Why would she say something like that unless she knew or heard something about Eva? Sure, it could be because Eva lied about her talent and the Tozu Trinkets, but that hardly warrants such a strongly loaded attack like that. My theory? I think that Grace had Eva's blackmail. At the very least, we can account for 6 people's blackmails: Wolfgang, Desmond, Cassidy, Jean, Grace and Toshiko. I'm sure the next trial-- or maybe even a future trial, but probably the former-- will make use of the remaining ones somehow.

[@numanafzal5107]

Here is an interesting Scrum Debate I came up with for this chapter. This is played after the pathos route but before Diana explains what happened. Should We Hear Diana's Side Of The Story? No, We Shouldn't! Grace Madison Kai Monteago Eva Tsunaka Mark Berskii Wenona Jett Dawson Toshiko Kayura Ulysses Wilhelm Yes, We Should! Damon Maitsu Jean DeLamer Eloise Taulner Desmond Hall Cassidy Amber Ingrid Grimwall Diana Venicia (Wolfgang Akire) Script Grace Madison: It's obvious Diana is the killer! *Voting* is our only option now to deal with her. Damon Maitsu: I'm not *voting* until it's conclusive that she's the killer. Kai Monteago: But you literally were the one to say that it's her. Don't let her *niceness* change your mind. Ingrid Grimwall: Her *niceness* is the reason why we're not absolutely convinced she would kill someone. Wenona: Clearly, she can *fake* her tears to make you guys doubt about accusing her. Eloise Taulner: But being *fake* from the start would obviously leave cracks this far since meeting each other on the train. Eva Tsunaka: Even so, she could have a *motive* towards killing Wolfgang specifically. We're just collateral damage for her freedom afterwards. Jean DeLamer: We have not seen a *motive* between her and Wolfgang to suggest anything of the sort. Wolfgang received my blackmail, remember? Jett Dawson: That's not to say that Diana doesn't have Wolfgang's *blackmail*. It must have been real juicy if she wanted to kill him after reading it. Cassidy Amber: True, but we can't be sure she got his *blackmail*. It's a shame no one has owned up to having it, but it doesn't automatically make it Diana . Ulysses Wilhelm: Blackmail aside, she is the only person without a corroborated alibi. No one can say what she was truly *doing* in the morning. Desmond Hall: Therefore, we should hear her out for what she was *doing* at the time. Then we'll all be convinced. THIS IS OUR ANSWER!

[@lunarrabbit21]

Wow, this was really enjoyable to read. I can tell you put a lot of thought into this.

[@numanafzal5107]

@@lunarrabbit21 Thank you. I plan to design more Scrum Debates for Project Eden's Garden and maybe a Psych Taxi equivalent for future trials.

[@inigoobien8910]

@numanafzal5107 On that note, kind of a shame those weren’t implemented on this fangame, since those were some of my favorite minigames during the class trials. But who knows? There’s still five chapters left for them to make an appearance… 🤞

[@numanafzal5107]

@@inigoobien8910 You must consider that animating a Scrum Debate with all the characters including Tozu, since he will bring up the fact the trial is split in opinion, is very difficult in itself as well as making it run smoothly for players since it's more likely that they will initially get the options incorrect. In addition, the division will need to have a theme surrounded by a person's talent since the Scrum Debate in V3 is based on Kaito's talent hence why the opinions were rockets.

[@maddiemcnugget1076]

I read most of these in their voices... well mostly the answer side.

[@waff_less123h6]

The fact they made a whole video for the pathos route is insane 😭

[@bluekirby_64]

Gotta maximize our suffering with the execution

[@apowersak1]

makes me think that it might actually have an impact in future chapters, since I feel like it reveals so much info on how the trials work in the future.

[@NewBee_1]

​@@apowersak1that's exactly what i was thinking!

[@Astra0Star]

​@@apowersak1same, but devs have confirmed that there will only be one ending.

[@hasemuras]

​@@Astra0StarTHEY DID?

[@HappyLilly-if9vw]

Something I did notice and what I haven't seen people talk about is Eva's mental state. I fear she has something called a victim syndrome, something which she probably got when she was in middle school. As her backstory showed in the trial she wasn't being bullied, she was just in her own misery as others talked to eachother happily. Wolfgang must've been her mental breaking point. Which led her to being tempted and tricked to start the first murder. Best portrayal of what a bad mental health can do to a person

[@heystarriat]

i know it as a "persecution complex",, did the name change?

[@HappyLilly-if9vw]

@heystarriat I think not, I just read about the victim complex in a manga and recognized it here

[@BlackieBandita]

Wolfgangs voice actor in Diana's flashback did real well, the art is so good too and really gives you that image in your head about what's happening. Damon actually taking the more emotional route in this path for Diana's sake is really well done. This is something you can't get out of the original Danganronpa game, and its really fascinating to me how there's a separate path to go down if you do certain things to cause it even if the change isn't much to some people. Well done to everyone apart of this project for working so hard on it as well! (Edit) Kai's line at 1:44:35 - 1:44:40 really reminded me of Fuyuhiko from Danganronpa 2, it made me laugh a bit lol

[@danganronpahonors]

this chapter 100% broke me, which means you’re doing a good job. i can’t wait for the future chapters!!!

[@amberr3662]

I got this route on my playthrough, and I honestly didn't even realise I could use logic. I thought it was like V3 lies where at one point in the trial, you have to use it. Its really interesting how much you skip when you go by pathos rather than logos (I didn't even realise Grace had a rebuttal until I watched the trial playthrough), kinda goes to show that it's easier/faster to just trust your instincts than it is to try and logic it out

[@IzoQuartz]

I wish the pathos route didn't skip over gameplay elements like Grace's rebuttal. It would be nice if the pathos route offered an alternative gameplay moment instead, for example, instead of getting a rebuttal showdown with grace, you get one with Eva, or a unique non-stop debate where you can only progress with another empathy bullet.

[@lavenderrose82]

Or maybe you could get scrum debates in the pathos route and regular gameplay in the logos route. That way, both routes would have unique gameplay. And you can only activate one of them in one route.

[@syllable1908]

Theory for Chapter 2: It will be related to Noah’s ark story from the Book, meaning Jean would play an important role in that chapter since he is the Ultimate Ship Captain, who is more likely to save many people like how Noah saves his family and the animals from the sinners.

[@redhunter1211]

Anyone else have the feeling we'll be getting different endings depending on whether we used ethos route or pathos route more or have them equal by this games equivalent of CH6?

[@InsideCat]

I *seriously* suspect they'll give the pathos vs logic routes this kind of impact depending on how much you do one or the other. It's fine if they don't, but it'd REALLY give this difference in approach in the trial some serious worth in seeing the difference. Dare I also say additional replayability?

[@asmarlokicerain7706]

Your turn to die type of deal would be cool

[@maddiemcnugget1076]

The new sprites added in this chapter are amazing. From Diana defending herself, Wolfgang on hallucinations, guilty Eva... but idk Damon calling out to Tozu is my favorite for some reason.

[@Luven0515]

Guys the "pathos route" Is basically a more emotional route rather then logical (*°∀°)=3 They kinda explained it at the prologue (i think?)

[@Rhialk]

Thanks

[@kurukurupa53]

People don’t know what “pathos” means?

[@Luven0515]

@@kurukurupa53 I don't blame them since the prologue was 2 years ago

[@Zumba__]

​@@kurukurupa53I have no idea what that means, when was it ever said? And is there other route, since this is the Pathos one? And what even is Pathos anyways?

[@codereditz]

​@@Zumba__ basically Pathos is emotion

[@glady_yola]

1:24:57 one of my favorite moments in the pathos route

[@glady_yola]

And of course Tozu 1:25:10

[@myfriendsaremypower]

Nagito ahh sprite 💀

[@AbiRose539]

Gotta love the dedication with an entire video dedicated just for the pathos route, you guys did amazing for Ch.1 :D

[@jeremiahbluehot4571]

1:26:00-1:26:25 i love how he’s just like “are you deadass right now”

[@zarkadege]

this route becomes the same as the normal version again at 1:29:30 if anyone else is doing a comparison

[@FranciGitGud]

I was wondering if there are any other changes so I was watching this on 2x speed but yeah it only changes a small part but it's still cool

[@PRITOR228]

Thanks, i was looking for the difference put it is really small

[@PRITOR228]

But*

[@scar8o284]

Is it just me? But I love Damon, personality or not I love how logical he is

[@freekzyisjustfreekzy]

Frr same tho

[@ScaramoucheForever-c6w]

Hes definitely an INTP

[@scar8o284]

@@ScaramoucheForever-c6w Really? I’d assume INTJ or ENTJ instead…as an Intp Myself see more Judging than perceiving

[@ScaramoucheForever-c6w]

@@scar8o284 your eneagram?

[@hewhohaspreorderedthethrone]

@@ScaramoucheForever-c6wWrong. ENTJ, but definitely thinking function first.

[@Galacticstarsofthegalaxy]

The title didn’t lie, this path is quite pathosy

[@thecatsays4666]

1:26:24 amazing delivery. "Tozu 😐 can i pLEAse 🙄 know the factors 😐 that decide 😐 when a trial is over? 🤔" 10/10. I laughed my ass off.

[@toxichorns]

It's really interesting to see Damon breaking arguments using his heart and not mind if you could say like that(srry english isn't my first language), even though I prefer Damon using only logic I like this route too

[@kurimiaisukurimu]

I wonder if going Pathos or Logic route will somehow affect Damon's character development throughout the game, with Pathos obviously resulting in the most changes for his character.

[@Furitan]

1:30:05 Desmond being chill guy

[@marcochua35]

I'm dead he really is making the same face

[@hyuriel7515]

“It’s all my fault 😢😞” “😏”

[@thisdeath]

LOL yess his face

[@Mai_-0]

​@@hyuriel7515 LMAOOOOO

[@waterisliquid0v097]

Wait holy fuck I’m early WHAT ?!?!?!?! Bro. That chapter 1 trial shook me to my core. That trial was so interesting and eerie as fuck. Can’t wait to see what they’re cooking in the future chapters yippee !!!!!!

[@jupiterscomet]

PROJECT EDENS GARDEN!!! MAKE MERCH AND MY LIFE IS YOURSSSS

[@davilboy5355]

they can't

[@replacableVessel]

They cannot, the Danganronpa creatirs would sue the project

[@jupiterscomet]

@@replacableVessel auugghhh that's so evil 😞😞 so sad

[@monachaptiis]

​@@replacableVessel why though they aren't using any of the music, assets, or even the name danganronpa so why

[@averyboringthing]

​@@monachaptiis"this is a NON-PROFIT danganronpa fangame" its literally say in the warning screen

[@lavinyagabriela0811]

This chapter gave me more depression, congratulations I lost my two favs in 1 episode

[@hasemuras]

IKR i dont want my favs to die.. i dont want anybody to die atp

[@Jellofish]

PATHOS ROUTE IS HERE WOHOOOO BABY

[@superdupersayian6708]

I like to think that this is the canonical route since it gives us more info on the trial as well as some scenes that imo weren’t answered in the logos route (like Diana’s talk with Damon the night before the murder which was used here to elevate the affect that Diana and her kindness had with Damon.)

[@hasemuras]

i CANNOT believe they posted this 2 weeks after breaking us?? anyway love yall ❤

[@ManOfAnswers]

1:21:45 for pathos route

[@WambuaLooba]

I didn't even know this route existed WHAT😭

[@lazergia_4902]

I really missed the slot machine that reveals the culprit at the end of the trial; it had so much of Danganronpa's essence.

[@lunarrabbit21]

And the roulette wheel

[@cailynchaos3326]

Damon made things really silly with Pathos while he suggests that Diana explains her story of getting framed instead of Jean, even though the conclusion didn’t change.

[@alphysthedinosaur5832]

The superior route 😌😎

[@exoticclone9635]

Wait I did this route by accident cuz I thought that’s what you were supposed to do lol

[@scarlightemperor3410]

Lol nah. It's like V3 with the Perjury routes

[@nodontreadthat]

2:46:59 damon bro IM FUCKING CRYING

[@TrentonNelson-qp5de]

Bro Jett, you're wearing a helmet, How did your ears hurt after I yelled?

[@hasemuras]

no idea but jett mention so best comment ❤

[@KorrupKopia]

We're winning with this one diamon stands. (Only me)

[@limejonathans]

YOU'RE NOT ALONE BROTHER

[@nataliephan562]

can confirm, i am one of 5 diamon shippers in the wild

[@enoraraooaa]

YOURE NOT ALONE !!!!!!! i love diamon a lot :3 (shoutout to the diamon server)

[@YunoKashiki-v9o]

​@@enoraraooaaOH MY GOD IS THAT YOU RIRI????

[@enoraraooaa]

@YunoKashiki-v9o oh my god get outta here yun😭😭(im guessing thats you)

[@LordHydreigon]

Curious to who our next victim and killer will be

[@mizuhonaa]

THIS TRIAL MADE ME SO EMOTIONAL 💔

[@Strawb3rryStar14]

I MISS MY HUSBAND AND WIFE 😭🙏💍

[@Dany-kg3nw]

Two birds one stone 😀

[@thisdeath]

real.. why did they kill my 2 favs in the first chapter lol-

[@Jinvein]

wolfgang's VA is insane T O T The screaming just sounded so real

[@只是一本魔法書]

It still shocking for me to see😧 Brilliant

[@HuskyWuskyy]

something that is really interesting to me is that the team went out of their way to refer to this route and this game mechanic as "Pathos". and while the standard route has not officially been referred to as the Logos route, that's commonly what it's called and it follows that rhetorical appeal (the appeal to logic) if Pathos and Logos are integral parts of this story and of Damon's character, i wonder if and when Ethos will come into the story's picture. you can't really discuss a rhetorical appeal *without* referring to the other two, and with both Pathos and Logos already being integral themes of the game's story, it does make me wonder if Ethos will become important later on it could apply to Damon, or it may apply to another character in the story that will either work with or work against Damon

[@AidenClarkk]

honestly pathos route>>>>

[@zetathornsberg8068]

Man... after this, it's gonna take a miracle for me to like any of these guys...

[@Nxjime]

If Kai lives I'll die happy. LET THAT BOY LIVE😭

[@mochxyy_]

HER LAST WORDS WAS LIKE KIRUMI, AND HER EXECUTIONS WAS LIKE KIRUMI + NAEGI + KAEDE!! BUT THIS IS SO GOOD OMFG I LOVE EDEN GARDEN :333❤❤

[@Eshiiiii]

2:32:19 Umm actually☝️🤓✨️

[@janadepieri9749]

LOL

[@veemoochaco]

Idk what pathos route is but hell yeah!! Edit: MUSHY DAMON MUSHY DAMON!! Also that stupid Damon sprite with his hands up makes me laugh sm it’s so dumb 😭 (Sheep man come back plz😕)

[@DamonMaitsu]

Pathos routes are alternate outcomes of non stop debates that are fueled by emotion rather than logic. There was one in Chapter 0 too

[@veemoochaco]

@@DamonMaitsuthx the Damon Maitsu 🫡

[@hasemuras]

​@@DamonMaitsucan you explain it in a dumber way

[@hasemuras]

​@@DamonMaitsunvm i understood thank you

[@Azelreiya]

​@@hasemuras I don't please explanation im dum

[@immmunity2019]

this chapter had me screaming and crying. in a good way?

[@KaisNumberOneFan]

Ok this is wild

[@Tiny_Mimyohan]

Aaah, I love this game! Of course, I'm a little sad about Wolfgang's death. But, hearing news about one of my favorite games is awesome. And also, I got to know our beloved characters a little better. Plus, the execution was awesome.🔥🎀

[@Melon-Pult]

i was really surprised when i got the pathos route answer correct first try

[@radioaktywny4980]

I'm curious whether in future chapters the path we choose will affect who dies or the ending of the game itself.

[@HahaSaraiamapoliceman]

It better does honestly!

[@feroxino1051]

Diana tbh could help sway Damon in ch2 from the whole Pissed off part

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

I very much doubt it. Making just one voice-acted route with one murder and one execution animation is already labor-intensive enough.

[@MrAwesomeMatty]

(SPOILERS) Man, I have the worst luck when it comes to anything related to Danganronpa and Fanganronpa related content. Just like one of my favorite characters, Leon Kuwata, one of my favorite characters here becomes the first blackened! I can't catch a break; I always get broken, as everyone I like (Aside from Sakura in chapter 4 of THH) dies at the beginning or the first half. I'm crossing my fingers to hope that my second favorite characters (Mark, Jet, and Wenona) don't die. ;_;

[@ZenithintheMaking]

Let me save this til tonight🫡 I'll need some snacks

[@Nerdykidddo]

L- Like a chameleon, I will adapt! I will follow in Wolfgang's footsteps... and continue what he wasn't able to accomplish! I'II become something new!🥲

[@Dinosaur2931]

Am in the middle of a project: eden's garden motive where sat/kai makes a sh*tpost about everyone except wolfgang and Eva tsunaka and It becomes a whole trial hopefully the ai,s know how it works :) But it,s going OK so far

[@13sinra13]

This route honestly does give Damon and even the class trials better development than the logic route, and Tozu talks more here. Though I still prefer the Logic route. Still, this is the better route in terms of character development for both Damon and Tozu. Also. I like the organ music that plays when Damon defies the others. Sorry about my preference. Still, I hope you have a good day!

[@masterchopper1480]

"WhO CAres abOUt thE cAMerA?!"

[@AD_YTChannel]

Bro this is so SHOCKING and FIRE 🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥⚡🔥

[@Shoko_Ryu]

Just finished the chapter 1 last night and here are my thoughts: Holy sh*t, I cannot believe the first victim and murderer are the ones that I MOST LIKELY THOUGHT THEY WOULD SURVIVE LONGER! even the sudden changes of one suspect to the next caught me really off guard. The story of chapter one for me is like a rollercoaster ride, it moves side to side as they discuss about evidences and ways the killer did it and it moves HIGH UPS AND LOW DOWNS when discussing testimonies, pinpointing possible suspect and of course revealing everything that happened. As the cherry on top, the last mini-game added when u confront the final suspect really makes you wanna word your DAMN HARDEST just to reach that final hurdle. Like damn, it took me 2 hrs just to finish that last mini-game that even my mates slept on me while watch me play your game xD and i'm not saying the game is boring, we we're playing this game throughout the night and it's 1 am that time while we're doing a VC at discord xD My overall experience in playing Chapter 1 REALLY OVERFLOWED that bin of expectations i had for the game. It went beyond to my disbeliefs. If chapter 1 is that good, what more to the future chapters. I'm looking forwards to see those ^^

[@KhepriProductions2022]

Nice song at the end!

[@SuperStrike-d1p]

This makes me wonder if they’re gonna make chapter 0 trial with the non-pathos route

[@Luven0515]

@SuperStrike-d1p In ch0 you were SUPPOSED to do use it. There is no alternative!!

[@SuperStrike-d1p]

@ yes there is, you can get WolfGang to agree with you

[@Luven0515]

@SuperStrike-d1p ohhh right I forgot

[@rilansis9877]

aint no way both pf my favorite characters die chapter 1 😭 (the execution made me tear up :( )

[@Isborf1691]

1:21:43 1:29:30

[@itzranette]

wait so you’re saying there’s another way route other than this pathos route? i thought this pathos bullet was the only way to get past that nonstop debate lol

[@c4gam1ng12]

No, there’s also a logic route. I won’t spoil what happens, but it’s on this channel.

[@itzranette]

@ interesting… it seems i’ll have to play through the trial again and try out that logic route haha

[@Abvc_0728]

CHAPTER 2 WHEN? 🗣‼️😭

[@Terlinilia]

2027

[@liliana-hg5gi]

@@Terlinilia dang 😔😔

[@markerofthemidnight7469]

*laugh track plays*

[@neruback]

2079

[@Abvc_0728]

@@Terlinilia what-

[@Calypso-zw2cn]

Why do so many people not know what "Pathos Route" means, it was explained in the prologue after all

[@RikkuMaraschino]

it was broken for a lot of people, plus it was only like one scene so there wasnt much of an incentive

[@kaga-san7012]

The prologue came out two years ago...

[@lavenderrose82]

To be fair, it has been two years since the prologue. You'd only remember it if you went over the prologue again for refresher as well as for theories.

[@veemoochaco]

Plz I don’t have the mental capacity to remember something from years ago 😭

[@Calypso-zw2cn]

​@@lavenderrose82 you're right I totally forgot that it was so long ago because I played the prologue again shortly before chapter 1 came out 😅

[@AaronL0905]

Man i just know that mock trial in the prologue will keep being relevant

[@rockmanmix6242]

Hmm…I can tell Wenona is a powerful foe. I look forward to seeing her in more trials.

[@rocky_rodmaya]

1:13:05 THAT failed bullet bro 💀

[@hemag3895]

Pathos route made me start shipping dmaon with Diana a bit ngl look at them

[@nataliephan562]

Me too. Except I've shipped them since the prologue. But the Pathos route really gave them so much to work with.

[@peoplescream9980]

Bro I'm addicted to hearing Grace when she screams "Fuck you!" to Eva-

[@froakietw]

I'm scared Diana will die next chapter (hopefully she doesn't, please devs, don't kill her)

[@CoolIcer47]

Chapter 1 Spoilers Debate 1 Why don't you tell everyone the truth, Grace?-Wenona I-I've got nothing else to explain!-Grace The last I saw Wolfgang, he was in our dorm room!-Grace Okay, hear me out: secret hallways!-Cassidy We would have found those by now...-Mark Maybe Wolfgang was carried by the killer...Diana(Counter) That, or Wolfgang never told Grace he was sick...-Desmond I wouldn't lie about what he said!-Grace What if Wolfgang used the elevator in the tree?-Cassidy You're not helping...!-Grace Debate 2 Is this really how you think Wolfgang died?-Diana The bloody knife is way too big of a coincidence.-Jett It was floating in the water right next to him...-Jett Not just that, there's blood on the boiler room floor...-Ingrid ...and along the underground hallway!-Ingrid A confrontation must have happened in these hallways...-Toshiko Nyeh...it was probably a sneak attack.-Jett The killer snuck up on Wolfgang, stabbed him from behind...-Jett(Counter) ...and...the rest is history.-Jett With that knife wieldin' villain on his tail, Wolfgang...-Ingrid ...had no other place to run but the boiler room!-Ingrid S-so...the killer entered the boiler room after him...-Kai ...which was when they, you know...e-ended it...-Kai *sniff*...It all makes sense...-Toshiko Debate 3 Desmond is the killer!-Grace The taser gun came from his room!-Grace I had no idea the gun even existed...-Desmond ...I was barely in my dorm to begin with!-Desmond Because you wanted to draw attention...-Grace ...away from your weapons horde!-Grace Um...but...-Eloise I-if this is about avoiding suspicion...-Diana ...why did Desmond say the taser gun was fired?-Diana I don't think a killer would draw attention to their own murder weapon...-Diana ...I...was with Desmond...-Eloise(Agree) Pft! I call it reverse psychology.-Grace You sprinkle in a little helpfulness...-Grace ...and suddenly everyone trusts you!-Grace ...when the murder happened...-Eloise Debate 4 I think it's safe to say...-Cassidy ...the killer didn't use a flamethrower!-Cassidy *Sigh*...-Wenona Maybe Wolfgang got into a fight?-Diana Someone might've attacked him...-Diana ...and aimed for his neck.-Diana ...if you can even reach that high.-Mark E-Either way, something must've hit him...-Kai(Agree) What if Wolfie fell over?-Ingrid With how spindly he is, one tiny misstep...-Ingrid ...could leave the poor fella bruised for days!-Ingrid Skinny guys bruise easily, ey?-Cassidy Let's see if you're right. Ulysses, fall over!-Cassidy Eh...No, thank you...-Ulysses Debate 5 So, lemme get this straight...-Jett The killer knocked out Wolfgang with a rolling pin...-Jett ...and chucked the pin into Closet A?-Jett When exactly did they discard the pin?-Wenona They couldn't have done it...-Grace ...when Eva and I were already downstairs...-Grace ...because the two of us went inside Closet A.-Grace Why were you inside the closet...?-Toshiko To find the backup generator, remember?-Cassidy Jett and I checked Closet B...-Cassidy ...Damon and Kai checked Closet C...-Cassidy ...Eva and Grace checked Closet A...-Cassidy ...and Jean and Mark checked Closet D.-Cassidy ...the killer just discarded the pin...-Mark ...before we came downstairs...-Mark Yeah, I think Mark's right...-Diana Cause the killer could run upstairs...-Diana ...and go back to their room...-Diana ...immediately after discarding the pin...-Diana(Counter) Debate 6 If it was Diana inside that boiler room...-Ingrid ...could she be the one who left the blood trail?-Ingrid 'Cause if so...that might be her blood on the knife too!-Ingrid Diana's blood...?-Toshiko A-Are you saying she wounded herself?-Toshiko *Wounded herself*? What makes you think that?-Cassidy I...I don't know!-Toshiko Why else would the killer's blood be on their own weapon?-Toshiko Did we not already agree...-Wenona ...the killer was wielding a rolling pin?-Wenona W-Well, maybe they had both!-Toshiko The rolling pin in one hand...Toshiko(Counter) ...and the knife in the other...!-Toshiko Dual wielding weapons!? Poo-wee, this killer's next level!-Cassidy Debate 7 Diana was the one who lured Wolfgang to the boiler room!-Grace Once he got there...she killed him immediately!-Grace(Logos) Then she fled the crime scene...-Ulysses ...hoping the rest of us would never learn the truth...-Ulysses How could you, Diana?-Ingrid Poor Wolfie was only tryin' to keep us together!-Ingrid B-But I...-Diana I would never murder Wolfgang!-Diana(Pathos) If you don't have an alibi...-Mark ...then you obviously did.-Mark B-But I...-Diana *Sniff* I wanted to believe so badly...that you were innocent...-Toshiko Why didn't I see you for who you were!?-Toshiko If this goes on any longer, I'm going to be sick...-Kai What're we waiting for then?-Grace Let's get this over with and vote!-Grace Debate 8 I bet the killer took a pill...-Jet ...and forced Wolfgang to swallow it!-Jet ...just jab him at that point...-Mark(Agree) How would the killer..Wenona ...make him swallow a pill?-Wenona There was no proof they restrained him.-Wenona Didn't the killer knock Wolfie out?-Ingrid Maybe that was their way of restrainin' him!-Ingrid You can't force an unconscious person...-Mark ...to swallow a pill.-Mark What if it was a drug...-Kai ...you don't need to eat?-Kai Like...an inhalable substance...?-Eloise Oh yeah! Like a powder or something!-Cassidy The pharmacy does have a large collection...-Ulysses ...of over the counter sedatives...-Ulysses ...but there's too many for us to isolate any specific one.-Ulysses Debate 9 Why did the generator blow up!?-Cassidy Could'a been just an electrical fault...-Jean So, a coincidence?-Cassidy Is this the best situation...-Desmond ...to be waiving stuff off as a coincidence?-Desmond Did the killer throw something at the generator...-Kai ...that made it explode?-Kai Perhaps...it's the fault of the taser gun?-Ulysses The electrical discharge it released...-Ulysses ...might have connected with the generator...and created an overabundance of energy...-Ulysses ...which cause everything in the circuit to pop.-Ulysses Probably.-Eva There's no proof anything besides the taser was involved...-Eva(Counter) In that case, the generator blew up...-Ingrid ...*after* Wolfie got shot with the taser!-Ingrid Such a dastardly taser, leaving so many victims in its wake!-Toshiko Debate 10 If the battery is related to the case...-Eva ...only Diana could've thrown it in the water.-Eva But, my arm had been cut!-Diana Lifting a battery would hurt too much!-Diana Neo-batteries are pretty lightweight, though...-Jett The battery clearly couldn't have fallen from somewhere...-Toshiko(Counter) ...so it must have been submerged another way.-Toshiko Perhaps, something akin to...what Eva described?-Toshiko If that battery is the murder weapon...-Wenona ...why is there a taser gun?-Wenona M-Maybe...it's a red herring.-Toshiko Judging by the shrapnel, the battery would'a landed in the water...-Jean ...a few inches from the generator...-Jean Hmm...not the hardest shot to make...-Desmond Debate 11 You can't say I'm the MURDERER just because I sat near a vent.-Eva ...it's seems to be pretty good evidence to me.-Desmond Wolfgang exposed you for the snake you are...-Grace ...and you despised him because of it!-Grace You have a motive!-Grace Perhaps...our understanding of the mechanism is wrong?-Toshiko Maybe it wasn't closing the vent that triggered it...-Toshiko ...but something else...?-Toshiko Do you have any evidence to prove that?-Wenona Even if this trap *was* used...-Eva ...you can't guarantee it operated the way Damon described.-Eva How so...?-Ulysses Well...the battery could've been tied to the extension cord...-Eva ...with a special knot which can untie by itself...-Eva ...after a bit of time passes.-Eva There's even less evidence for that!-Grace Evidence? No one here cares about evidence.-Eva I just happened to be at the game tournament...-Eva(Counter) ...and now you're saying I'm a killer!-Eva Chapter 1 Fun Fact This is the first chapter nobody participated in all debates, There is 20 straight debate lines that came from a Female(inbetween Mark's "...before we came downstairs..." in the 5th debate and Ulysses's "Then she fled the crime scene..." in the 7th debate) Wenona had the first line, Eva had the last.

[@max78642]

2:47:03 holy moly (personal timestamp)

[@DavidZivkovic-v3r]

Cool episode, but please lower the difficulty of argument armament next time, it was way too difficult on Mean, even after trying multiple times I couldn't beat it. It really lowers the atmosphere of the climax. Again, awesome job guys, really great chapter.

[@kamenridersalim4450]

Quick question before I watch, what's the difference between normal and Pathos route?

[@mikeyhai7264]

Normal is more like a logical logic Pathos is more like an emotional logic(eng not my first language)

[@PhilRoast964]

BRO THAT ARGUEMENT (i didnt remember the word) IS FIREEEE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

1:43:43 Lol, he looks like a monster/demon

[@Cshishtov]

Я изредка захожу на канал, слежу за прогрессом.. НО КАКОГО ЛЕШЕВО ВЫ УБИЛИ АДВОКАТА >:(

[@terrorlabss]

edens garden drop lets GO

[@carrotjoos]

Diana x damon crumbs or whatever....(does anyone else ship them?? theyre lowk cute tgt...)

[@nataliephan562]

I shipped them since the prologue. But they’re really cute and funny, especially in Diana’s Free Time Events.

[@Pusheenowaaa]

I just found out about different routes and there’s already a video lmao

[@brodykerby2139]

Wenona could be Chapter 2 murderer and Grace could be the victim

[@filmbrat1]

that would be all 4 of my favorites gone in the first two chapters. i have to personally vote no lol

[@PhilRoast964]

When grace said "NO ONES RECITING S($+($! !" I was screaming "SHUT UP YOU STUPID TENKO"

[@davthesoun]

twist omg so good

[@emile906]

I don't understand what is Pathos ? This is a different route ? I don't get it

[@11th-lemon]

The pathos route is what you get when you use an emotional argument instead of a piece of evidence during a nonstop debate.

[@Luven0515]

It's like when you lie in drv3! It's more of an emotional route instead of the usual logical route

[@emile906]

@@Luven0515 Oh okayyyy didn't know you could do this, but I'll have to wait for the french version if I want to do it cause I had already difficulties in Easy mode 🥲 It changes some dialogues ?

[@Luven0515]

@@emile906 It does! But so far it doesn't change the outcome

[@Candy_edgar]

Damon and Kai is so cute