No Crank = No Fun (1995 Chevy Camaro V8)

This 1995 Chevy Camaro V8 doesn't crank over.
Owner fired the parts cannon and put a starter in it.
Of course that didn't fix it.
What are the other variables...ignition switch? Immobilizer? Worn key?
Enjoy!
Ivan

[@WilliamMulligan]

Negative parts required! I feel a disturbance in the force.

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

Payback for the BMW and Mercedes.

[@CubasAutomotive]

Hahaha... yes! Garbage! Great when no parts are required! LOVE the old school systems.... so basic! 😊👍🏻👍🏻

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

:D

[@CarsonC5]

Seems like the only prevention those aftermarket security systems do is prevent the owner from driving their own car!

[@throttlebottle5906]

pretty much that was often the case :)) but the factory systems did the same

[@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN]

They are trash. Being in the car business over the years ive seen so many good 90s cars ruined by those junk aftermarket alarms. Thank god thats s thing of the past.

[@LakeNipissing]

@@throttlebottle5906 YES !! A neighbor _had_ a Ford Taurus (the era with the round back window), and this thing would endlessly be problems refusing to start, and make him late for work. "Anti-Theft" light would be on, and loaded onto a flatbed to the Ford dealer for the xx trip to diagnose the "Anti Theft" system, which they never could resolve. More like Anti-Owner system!! He left it with the dealer "permanently" in the end.

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@LakeNipissing LOL, my relatives had many of the taurus wagons and a few cars. never had severe issues until they were real old. well at least not severe and hard to me working on them. it was usually plain sight obvious issues if electrical, the coating shrunk back from the connector plugs. but then two were lost pretty quick in a row.

[@adotintheshark4848]

the factory units aren't much better. When they go bonkers, whoooeee! You're walking and they can be a pain to fix.

[@noeygarza6522]

Really Like How You Diagnose The Electrical Problems. You Make it Look Easy!

[@zx8401ztv]

After market crap, oh dear :-( Tell the owner to buy a wheel clamp for use on the driver side front wheel. The bright yellow ones that are very obvious. It stops casual theifs. It also looks like your car was clamped for parking in the wrong place lol.

[@joemascioni3101]

Funny how the deduction of diagnosis leads to the easiest of fixes. Great job Ivan.

[@PistonBikers]

Man Se Need More Mechanics Like You I'm Mexico

[@roxanneabbott8424]

Another awesome! Have a Merry Christmas you two!!!! Be safe if you visit family!

[@TinyTony555]

plum crazy camaro. Give er the beans

[@jogmas12]

Got the big boy today huh?

[@wyattoneable]

That's funny "negative parts required".

[@diymisfit_Mechanic_UDX404]

I'm used to having bolts left over, not parts. LOL

[@SmittySmithsonite]

It's great to remove parts, in addition to fixing the problem. :D Merry Christmas, Wyatt!

[@theadventuresofjavier8698]

Howdy Wyatt 🤚🏼

[@wyattoneable]

@@theadventuresofjavier8698 Hello Javier. :)

[@bastianfromkwhbsn8498]

I hate aftermarket junk... Fixed a badly misfiring Ford a few days ago by unplugging the aftermarket Android radio. It messed up the CAN bus.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Wow nice!

[@peteysquirrelchaser9028]

Turned it into a can't bus.

[@SmittySmithsonite]

@@peteysquirrelchaser9028 😂🤣😂😂🤣😂

[@brianmason1414]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AP9311]

Negative parts cannon, hahaha!!! That's good one, ivan! Great diagnostic job! So simple fix lol

[@jonka1]

I always rely on a carefully concealed switch to stop people borrowing my cars. They never go wrong.

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Nothing like a quick repair on a cold day. Ivan you and wife stay safe and well. 😊 Artie

[@mike_svt93]

Wish all automotive electrics were that simple. Not so much with modern vehicles.

[@Tomsfoolery.]

Good job and nice video! I couldn't count how many aftermarket security systems and remote starters we removed back in the dealership days! Always suspect on no-crank scenarios!

[@joerose8105]

What a hacktastic job on that aftermarket garbage. I absolutely despise these aftermarket systems. Cannot tell you how many I had that came in on the hook for a no crank, no start. As soon as I start talking with the customer it's always "Well I just had this or that installed over at X." Junk, take it out and throw it away. As usual, great diag and follow through Ivan. Always enjoy it when I see a new video pop up from ya. 👍

[@Cheepchipsable]

Was that the part, or just lousy installation, the old twist'n'tape method?

[@vpimike2646]

You made the right call, Ivan. No need for an anti-theft for that car. The purple paint already ensures that NO ONE will ever want to steal that thing. LOL

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

xD

[@jamespn]

Why an aftermarket alarm if you have an ignition with a security chip in the key?

[@throttlebottle5906]

probably failed and bypassed(pretty easy to steal also), so they installed aftermarket

[@marscruz]

The guy who sold him an aftermarket stereo probably sold him a burglar alarm. The theft deterrent ignition doesn't prevent someone from stealing your new stereo and speakers.

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@marscruz LOL, funny but likely true. I had my buddies amps(7 of them) and my many speakers in a grocery getter looking party wagon mini-van many years ago. nothing ever got stolen, perhaps it was the hillbilly cb antennas? when I got tired of noise and couldn't keep the pile of junk together, he got the stuff back about a year later and put it in his gutless cutlass, it got the trunk popped and stolen within 1 week! perhaps ugly looks and soccer mom vehicle help deter theft LOOL

[@marscruz]

@@throttlebottle5906 Gutless Cutlass... classic. Yeah, not too many soccer Moms rolling around with that thumping bass line happening. Smart. You must be somewhere in flyover country.

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@marscruz OHIO OHio ohio as Drew Carrey (whatever that show was) said ;)

[@VWWRENCHIE]

Another Ivan rescue...of the Pennsylvania Purple Street Eater.😃👍.

[@porky7753]

Quick and dirty= no bonus footage 😂

[@brownsfan4692]

That unit is actually a genuine GM DEALER installed alarm that has probably been in there since it was new. So it actually lasted quite some time.

[@sumduma55]

Yup. Must be garbage though because it only lasted a little over 20 years. Absolutely nothing else on the car would fail in 20 years so it has to be garbage. This trashing third party products like thst is really annoying to me. Some might be garbage but an alarm or remote start system that lasts 15 or 20 years certainly wouldn't be one.

[@kens97sto171]

So you're telling me that it genuine GM dealer installed alarm system would have a nightmare mess of wires wrapped up in taped like that? Really? Seems like if it was designed for the car it would have been a little more neat and tidy than that.

[@sumduma55]

@@kens97sto171 so you are telling me you cannot do simple math and you gave up on reading comprehension altogether? It's a 1995 car, the year is 2020 almost 2021 when he is working on it. That is by my math 25 years at least . I mentioned 15 to 20 years and third party device so you somehow interpret that to mean the GM dealership installed it.... Short answer is no. I do not expect you to believe a dealership installed it. I don't think I even suggested it. However, I do expect you to believe it wasn't installed just last year or anytime recently. But even if it was installed by a dealership or more recently, the technology differences between a 1995 and a car just 10 years later is so different that the device was likely manufactured within or before that 10 year window. I also expect you to understand that in the 15 to 20 years lifetime I suggested, that the idea absolutely no one has ever fiddled with it, cut wire ties or anything else under the dash because the alarm quit working or any other reason (replacing something completely unrelated) is a bit ridiculous.

[@62ejo]

A classic PH Auto Diagnostic repair.....

[@steveo6631]

Good old after market cobb jobb... Hope you don't get too buried in snow tonight, Ivan... We're supposed to get 16-18 inches here in NH.... But, my 2004 plow truck is purring nice with alot of help from your vids.... Broke out the old craftsman amp clamp... sweet...

[@nixpixmusic]

i have the same problem with my 1994 z28 showcar . this happened back in 2017.And the shop had it for 3 months .it costed over $2500.they cracked my dashboard in half .they said it was old.they had to get to a module up in front of the dash they said.I looked this time and don't see anything near what they were talking about. any help?

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

Many older GM used a resistor key, it's called VATS. The usual culprit is a broken thin gauge white wire in the steering column.

[@throttlebottle5906]

yep, measure the key resistance and install permanent bypass resistors under the dash :) of course it slightly easier to steal (resistance decade box or multi-turn pot bypasses pretty fast also =p

[@ecaparts]

I believe GM only used about 8 different resistance values. So it’s really easy to narrow down to bypass.

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

@@ecaparts Yea- that was a big technology thing for GM back then. If they had just redesigned the key, and hid it inside like many do their RFID now- it would've been more difficult to hack.

[@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP]

@@throttlebottle5906 Carry around a volume knob! LOL

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP that would work, if you preset it with meter to the "known" values, or use multi-turn trimmers like I said for finer control and nearly no chance of being bumped far

[@reinhardeder8268]

OK but how does the 3 Amp Fuse carry the Load?

[@Graham_Wideman]

I think that yellow wiring is upstream from the 3A fuse, and also upstream from some other loads too, as shown at 3:32, and it's those other loads that add up to 8A

[@RussellBooth1977]

That's the old school Chevy LT1 V8 engine if it's a V8 model,my Holden Commodore runs the Gen3 5.7 litre Chevrolet LS1 V8 engine which actually runs a factory fitted anti theft system which is deactivated by the transponder key so it makes it hard to Hotwire them. The old resistor on the key setup must be very old technology because Holden ran the electronic transponder key setup right from the mid 1990's in Australia even when they still had their own 304 cubic inch Holden V8 engine fitted up until 1999 when the Chevrolet LS1 V8 engine replaced it !

[@dieselchevette]

Aftermarket garbage does it every time. Oh, how many times I've ripped out that stuff and fixed a car... The only thing aftermarket in my car is the radio as OEM tends to be pretty shit in older stuff I enjoy, and that won't leave me walking.

[@billsmith2212]

I can't even imagine the problems this garbage will cause on the newer vehicles with Can Bus and dozens of modules . On just about ANY vehicle , if the battery is fully charged and the key is in the crank position , you must voltage at the S terminal on the solenoid . On GM , it's been that purple wire for many decades . If not , the problem is elsewhere . Mechanics 101 , first day on the job . Was that purple Camaro owned by Prince ? Great diagnosis and spot on . Do ANY of these Sound and Security shops even calculate amp draw in relation to wire gauge , fuse size and existing components BEFORE they hang this crap in a vehicle ? Pass the butt connectors , we'll be done in 5 minutes . I'll have Scotch Locks , instead !

[@patrickmorrissey2271]

As soon as you said "aftermarket security system", it was all over.... heh heh heh! In post production, you need to throw in some heavy theme music for those moments... Aftermarket security system! (DUH Dunt Duuuuuuuuuh!) Nice job. No parts required, I know that warmed your heart..... Those were cool cars... I had a Trans Am like that back then. It was fun. For the time, it had nice power. The 5.7 was not a bad motor.... For your general background, a real common security fault back then, you'd put the key in, security light, no crank... Wipe the key off real good with alcohol... Then it would start. Or clean the key off, then put it in & out 50 times or so, clean the key again, then try again, it will start. Those contacts get dirty and change the resistance value. Another quick & dirty one in a lot of Chevy's & Pontiacs of that vintage is, You get the no crank. Jumper the crank relay, it will crank & not start. Usually something in security, either the key, or pretty common to be a bad key switch.... File that away, it could save you some time freezing outside next to the highway....

[@jelothere11]

Again No Parts Required. And No Bonus Footage. LOL . But This time "Parts Removal". Happy Holidays to you .

[@mikesvirtualgarage9917]

Stick to the basic process and the parts cannon might never fire :) I'm actually glad the aftermarket alarm junk was the problem and not something else. I get that people buy those things for a reason, but dang, they can sometimes do more harm than good. No Russian repairs this time :D

[@beegbie1]

Aftermarket garbage that lasted 20+years (I installed those Chapman units in the late 90s). Yes It failed but most outlasted the cars they were installed in. Who knows how effective it was over those 20+ years. Maybe It wen't off a few times when someone tried to break in? Maybe not. Either way it's not garbage.

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Good job fixing the problem others have caused...It would appear 2 negative causes there...A cheap aftermarket security system installed in a half ass way, is a great recipe for future failure.

[@mikeaho4143]

As you knoe Ivan, the aftermarket hacks cause us all problems. Thanks for the vid. Great job Ivan Macgyer NPR !

[@rolandm9750]

GMs from that era typically used "true high-current" ignition switches which means the current to the starter actually flows through the ignition switch, which I think is the case here? A good aftermarket alarm/RS installer would have known that and used relays appropriately, but doesn't look like that was done here. That thing was probably put in, in the 90s though, meaning despite the cut-corner install, it was somehow still good enough to work for decades before melting up and causing issues.

[@kastooMcFry]

Aftermarket stuff is always half baked. I hate those things. They are either total junk and/or sh!thooked in there. Nice job, Ivan, as always.

[@Jonathan11225]

i always have a soft spot for those Camaro/Firebird/trans am.. build right here in Quebec,Canada! i really miss that plant

[@adamtrombino106]

Eric O does a couple vids on repairing the old PATs key resistor system. I thought perhaps that's what was wrong here, but nope. We've got a case of the aftermarket woes!

[@starchild417]

Hi there - I was wondering if the initial problem was intermittent? My 95 has an intermittent no crank situation I have a pursuit alarm but do not know if it’s factory. Best Nick

[@baxrok2.]

NPR has a new meaning now! That was a good one Ivan. Nice fix!

[@deepsquat600]

well before I even watch the video I am saying the Alarm is stopping the crank ..not reading the key chip ..so what you do is buy a resistor wire off ebay for 30$$ and bypass the alarm ..did it for my corvette I had ..ps ..it is that orange wire we can see

[@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN]

Just looking at the title made me want to go buy a carton of cigarettes

[@kevinbarry71]

More aftermarket crap. Quite unnecessary. nobody would want to steal that pile

[@CXensation]

Its always the aftermarket garbage that people throw into their cars ... Years ago my in-laws fitted such a device and was very proud of it, until a few months later it randomly started to set off by itself during drive ...

[@dannielpizatto7357]

In Brazil most cars, especially when they get to the second owner, have some sort of this piece of crap aftermarket alarm or security system that cuts the current to the fuel pump or coil pack. It is a peace of mind when I can remove them all.

[@laszlototh5956]

Car stars up, sounds mean, Ivan blips the throttle and says: "Let's try it again!" I really tought he would blip the loud pedal again, but sadly he just restarted it. :)

[@bobgsmith101011]

Aftermarket security systems work and drain you're battery over night or die after a few months. Junk.

[@quantaearth1]

Thought for sure this would be a VATS video. Turms out this is one of those chinese CRAPS videos 😆

[@coreydesrosiers407]

Need guys like you in the Bay Area I’m having issues with my camaro

[@-DC-]

Aftermarket Garbage disposal is always a good thing.

[@louoldschool7047]

I had a 01 mustang for 15 yrs. the only thing I ever added was trailer wiring. never had a problem

[@edmundvelasco2431]

Owned many Lt1 and the orange wire for for key always rips or gets damaged could even be the ignition switch

[@jeffjankiewicz5100]

Ahhhhh.....the aftermarket junk strikes again!!!! 😂 Merry Christmas Ivan and family. Stay safe God Bless.

[@wmichaels362]

I had a similar problem on a '04 Denali. I removed the aftermarket remote start, and alarm systems = no more dead batteries, no more no cranks!

[@mjmcomputers]

As soon as I saw Camaro no start I thought aftermarket alarm system.

[@comeasyouare4545]

I see it's such a good anti theft device that the owner can't steal his own car. Brilliant!

[@halleffect1]

not garbage, the immobilizer worked fine, the car was not mobile.

[@robinrousseau1087]

PEOPLE ADDING CRAP TO THEIR CARS

[@aaronturner1072]

There was a part required --- a brain! As usual, the diagnostic process solves the issue. At least the car has a new(er) starter!

[@jimhaines8370]

Back when those things were popular we used to end up cutting one of those things out every month. china made junk.

[@adotintheshark4848]

Which was worse, that junk module or the hack job wiring they used to install it?

[@YouSpamTard]

I had to do this the other day on an old Chevy van. I did not need a schematic, though. Haha. Gm has been using that yellow wire forever.

[@hpelisr]

Well done Ivan.

[@Cheepchipsable]

I wonder how long an aftermarket part need to last before it is not "garbage". 25 years doesn't seem too bad to me.

[@nct9466]

Aftermarket crap installation and lack of checking it can handle the current!

[@fieldsofomagh]

Could easily have started a fire and no need for a/c. Design overhaul always has bad vibes. When it's working, don't fix it.

[@jefferp]

There is never anything good under a glob of electrical tape.

[@aboutmyfathersbusiness8324]

Love pulling aftermarket junk from vehicles... I guess I'm a purist at heart:)

[@duanenelson3202]

The rats nest express, the aftermarket unit is bad enough but most installations are a guarantee of failure.

[@dwoodog]

Just goes to show the importance of a wiring diagram.

[@markusrisku7888]

IS THAT ALL DATA APP AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST??? ITS LOOKING INTERESTING👌

[@alex1949]

Has the quality of these alarm systems also gone downhill? I've taken out 3 that were installed in the 2000s. I have 2 that were installed in 92 and 96 that still work. Hmmm.

[@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN]

No they've always been garbage

[@happy543210]

now the owner can go out and buy another garbage alarm system.

[@scottmagoch5367]

Hey Ivan,short and quick,hope you're not working outside today,how much snow did you get ,keep warm,as always nice work

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

We got about a foot! I was plowing all morning :)

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Junk aftermarket security systems.

[@riblets1968]

I doubt a car thief worth his salt would have been deterred.

[@billscott7370]

Good job. Like your little light on your hat

[@2nickles647]

If it's a purple Camaro. Let it die. It's a pimp ride.

[@brianlindsey38]

no parts required shows you are very talented at this

[@mr__No]

Negative Bonus Footage... 🤔

[@stevebucuris8420]

there is a resistor in the yellow wire that has to match th resistor in the key.

[@TheGarnerjustin73]

Mayhem Mitsubishi made a cameo.

[@NoWr2Run]

IVAN, PUMPKIN, BABY, You had a chance to do a test drive on a v-8 Camaro & PASSED ? WANTED TO SEE SOME BURN OUTS SON. Don't let me down next time, OK ? JUNK AFTERMARKET PARTS, YES SIR.Still can't believe you didn't TAKE IT OUT FOR A RUN, DISAPPOINTING SIR.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

It was still on jackstands xD

[@NoWr2Run]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics AW HELL OK, MY BAD SIR IVAN. I'M SORRY.

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Привет Иван! А владелец автомобиля, согласен с твоей низкой оценкой дополнительной системой охраны? Ты так смело ее удалил... возможно, ему нужна эта коробка...

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

net, ne nuzhna ;)

[@Charles_Mulberry_7977]

Chevy THUNDER!

[@mrob4357]

The stock ignition system seems secure-why add complications?

[@sumduma55]

A lot of these security systems added features like remote start and door alarms. But some of it was because of habbit/tradition. The factory chip in the key security was fairly new and it was common to add security systems to cars before the factory started including them. It could be any number of reasons but those would likely top the ones stated.

[@thehemiolds455]

Who's the bonehead that dislikes Ivan why even wash him do quality work on no parts required dude or female 🥴🙄😄 great work Ivan and for showing how is done with no parts required on quality work to those guy's for putting garbage, cheap alarms systems👍😎😁

[@mrdeeng]

No testdrive?? :-( hahaha

[@unclefranj8460]

Nice one Ivan - per usual!

[@jeffhitchcock3368]

Good find, Ivan! Quick and dirty.

[@spelunkerd]

A Really Russian Repair, with Reverse parts Required!

[@brianw8963]

Nice work Ivan!

[@tenmillionvolts]

You couldn't ask for a better junk imobiliser. Did it's job well. The perfect fix would be to press the remote control button for the alarm and drive away :-)

[@throttlebottle5906]

the starter solenoid may have been failing and drawing over-current, like coil windings shorting out, not pulling in all the way fast enough from sticking bendix or brushes very worn. that will overcurrent the solenoid feed pretty bad and start to cook things. many times the people don't notice the starter is cranking slow until it quits cranking every try and starts the clicky click key play routine. even I didn't notice on my own, until dead of winter, of course I first checked the battery thinking it was weak. nope brushes gone and by spring it suddenly quit cranking, until I gave it percussive maintenance lol. cleaning, fresh grease and new brushes, good as gold!

[@erwinallen2309]

Garbage in garbage out!!

[@sinegra30]

Great Video Ivan thank you! Most of the time by just unplugging this aftermarket security modules you can normally crank the engine again but is actually better to do what you have done which keeps it OEM.

[@williegillie5712]

Easy peasy that’s the way they all should be. That after market stuff is junk in these newer cars. Nice work Ivan