No Deal Brexit Now Inevitable? Brexit Negotiations Continue to Stall (August 2020) - TLDR News

[@ryltair]

As a European, I would like to thank Britain for being a warning to other nations in the Union.

[@fionafiona1146]

@@Mmjk_12 Australia relations are available but the internal struggle is more scary than the external one... If Scotland gets to reenter fast the Catalan and Bavarians might be inspired.

[@dirkdeschepper735]

@@Mmjk_12 There is literally nothing the EU could have done differently. The UK press that pushed brexit is offended that they were wrong about their prima donna status. Well, too bad. The victimisation junkies like Farage were always going to continue playing the victim, and the snowflakes that followed them were always going to be offended. But the EU did exactly as it was forecast to do: it accepted the result before the British elites did (and that includes Gove and Johnson, who slunk off in stead of stepping up when they won), it tried to make the best of it, but it did - obviously - what the member states told it to do, which is to protect the single market and the EU's citizens. Beyond that they bent over backwards to help May find something she could sell back home, but they had to wait for Johnson to just accept their initial offer.

@@dirkdeschepper735 look a leftwing snowflake......calling people snowflakes....you people cant even make your own words up zero imagination.

[@NumericBoogie]

Max Jenkins-king you really think that the world has to kneel before the uk that you are unable to see that the eu cannot have another attitude. the EU must manage its interests without taking into account the interests of the British ... it is sad for such close neighbors but the massification of the global blocks is inevitable.

[@stephendiggines9122]

@@Mmjk_12 and that is why you make decisions based on the reality of human behaviour and the actual outcome rather than what you want to happen

[@CJusticeHappen21]

When somebody says that something is "easy", then either they understand it perfectly well, or they _don't understand it at all._

[@mikaelvalter-lithander1247]

Yeah, the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[@goodlookingcorpse]

Or they're lying.

[@baffbaff4085]

It's easy. We won't get a good deal from the EU ever. So no deal please.

[@peterparker219]

What about "they need us more than we need them" ? Doesn't look like 😂😂😂

[@peterparker219]

@Dr Professor what a great success that Thomas Cook kicked the bucket one year earlier

[@robbbieraphaelday999]

I thought this series had been cancelled. Good to see this season is still going to get the finale it deserves

[@undercoverduck]

Had to Google when the initial referendum was held, for the sake of context. It's been 4 years...

[@LoserZalbo]

Yeah, anyone who said this would be over and a new normal reached inside a decade was dreaming

[@SamSitar]

then brexit is illegal. the timer was 2 years.

[@baffbaff4085]

Call the police?

[@undercoverduck]

@@baffbaff4085 im sorry im losing my mind i read that as Nicki Minaj saying "pound the alarm" including the beat drop that follows

[@jonathanwilson8951]

@@SamSitar Why do you even bother?

[@RoboBeaver6]

Shocker, If only someone had seen tat coming.

[@beerblues762]

If only it wasn’t a buffoon that was left in charge.

[@ThomasBomb45]

Everyone who has paid any attention to the news in the past *checks watch* 4 years saw this coming. We just thought it would happen sooner

[@MaximilianOOO491]

Not to mention the recession that’s already underway... Brexit is going to really bite at the end of the year

[@almantasglinskas3118]

@@MaximilianOOO491 You still forgot about Covid+brexit

[@mickyfrazer4203]

ellobo1314 yes it’s going to bite the EU hard

[@garth2356]

The problem is, UK wants all the good stuff from the EU without having to give any money or follow the rules.

[@ZaKRo-bx7lp]

TBH if we can't take advantage of the situation, there's no reason to pursue it any further. Just reach an agreeable settlement.

[@StratosTitan]

@@charliemancini-tuffier6848 Well of course, but then this could mean more countries leaving (because UK still get benefits), until eventually the EU falls apart. When that happens, all countries are worse off than when in the EU.

[@bikerslow2598]

UK will fold.

[@mitchverr9330]

@@bikerslow2598 The UK wont fold, its under Boris who doesnt care about how bad things get he just blames everyone else. The tories dont want to touch the leadership untill after this has finally happened. We will no deal because thats what Boris wanted to happen anyway last year, the tory party will let him and then pull a John Major and kick him out and blame everything on him like Major did to Thatcher and hope people are stupid enough to keep voting tory even though the party allowed it to happen.

[@iceion9159]

Charlie Mancini-Tuffier the EU has no obligation to enter a trade deal with the UK. The UK is just in a really weak negotiating position and the EU has to make an example out of the UK. You reap what you sow.

[@vwabi]

Britain: "I want to leave the eu and still be part of the single market!" Eu: "sure, just have to accept ecj rulings like everyone else in the single market" Britain: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@catalinpuscasu72]

@James Berry Because you are already complying with WTO's courts.

[@gregoryfenn1462]

James Berry Dan Hannan said we should leave but stay in the single market, and so did Nigel Farage originally. During the referendum debate they said “this is just a decision on whether to leave, what comes next is for parliament”. Some people did want to leave the single market, not everyone. The owner of Iceland was also a prominent Brexiteer who wanted to stay in the Single Market, and this was also the policy of the DUP, the junior government party in Theresa May’s cabinet. True they changed their tune after the referendum but that’s too late. There should have been a second referendum to decide on what form of Brexit to take (Single Market and Customs Union, Customs Union only, FTA only, or WTO) where all the options can be decided with a ranked voting system such as by a Alternative Vote system.

[@neodym5809]

@James Berry Farage said the UK could be like Norway post Brexit, and Norway is a member of the single market. Johnson himself said only a madman would want to leave the single market.

[@stucrawford6230]

@James Berry You have No idea what Brexit will look like until the deal is made, Single market customs union, free movement or No deal? Let's wait to see the detail before you speak on behalf of the Government. We won't allow? WTF?

[@civis.revixit]

except, that's a narrative YOU'RE inventing. The UK *will not accept* . CFP continuity . EEZ access for decades . SM regulatory alignment . ECJ jurisdiction in the UK The UK is joining CPTPP. We will take our business elsewhere. We will source raw materials outside the EU and reduce tariffs to them. The UK £90bn annual deficit with the EU will quickly halve as we get cheaper raw materials from outside the EU, that the EU cannot compete with. And UK business will find new markets in GROWTH economies OUTSIDE the diminishing and failing EU SM. In a matter of months, the SM will move from being second largest trade bloc to being a firmly ensconced THIRD place. And since the share of global GDP of the SM has moved from over 30% in 1993 when maastricht brought the EU into Existence to its current 17.98%, the steady year on year decline of the SM will see it fall below 10% in about a decade. Let's be generous... in two measly decades the global GDP of the SM will be UNDER 10%. The UK is making its future sure. We're joining the CPTPP.

[@AntonArmsberg]

UK: We want free access to the common market without obligations EU: We don't sell unicorns, sorry.

[@darrenfoster442]

Not without a tariff on them at least!

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

hold my crispR-cas9 😉

[@civis.revixit]

EU : we demand . CFP continuity . EEZ access for decades . SM regulatory alignment . ECJ jurisdiction in the UK No, no, no and NO.

[@civis.revixit]

@@darrenfoster442 it's okay, we'll take our business elsewhere. We're joining the CPTPP. bye 👋

[@run2cat4run]

UK: 🐴+🍦=🦄 EU: thats just a horse with a ice cone on its head.

[@aniinnrchoque1861]

The EU and Britain is like that big essay u have as homework where u only start writing 24 hours before the deadline.

[@AaronOkeanos]

Only the UK, the EU finished their homeworks years ago.

[@tashunka8123]

Students of average intelligence have no problem producing good work in 24 hrs. The problem is that our UK donkeys that purport to lead the hard working population are ... how shall we put it... somewhat below average intelligence

[@aniinnrchoque1861]

@@tashunka8123 procrastinating is a gamble - a deal could be struck in mere days tho it would require eagerness and mutual legal obedience. In my personal opinion it's fishing rights and planned migration which are of greatest concern and which the EU should let go off completely given that neither issue has major ramifications on a trade deal (except that all those foreign trawlers will finally f off from British waters and go bothet Ireland until they are fed up as well just like Greenland before them).

[@AaronOkeanos]

@John Burrett No it means the EU cannot break their own rules and treaties ... not even for the UK.

[@the0ne809]

@John Burrett nobody is forcing the UK to make a deal. The EU is ready way more ready for a no deal Brexit than the UK. They don't have to give special deals to the UK anymore. You already decided to leave.

[@gabrielenicoli5065]

It is at these times that I truly understand how no one, not even expert or seasoned politician know what they are doing.

[@SimplyVanis]

It's like that in almost every profession, which is not for a very specific tasks. We are all winging it.

[@lapisredux]

@@adrianincroydon71 you've just got the hump because you lost...how's that for the truth.

[@darriendastar3941]

@@lapisredux What's your take on the border between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. Trade deals with Japan? Trade talks to sell off parts of the NHS to American insurance companies? Financial passporting for the City of London to operate in the EU? As you seem to have all the answers, I'm sure I'd be fascinated by your answers.

[@josephcarland]

You could disagree, by saying that everything is going to plan. I.e the plan was for a 'no deal' but give the inpression that there looking for deal.

[@mickyfrazer4203]

Adrian Waters in your opinion?

[@murrayeldred3563]

All I can say my friends in the EU want an end to this and just want to forget the UK and move on with their lives. Their view....just sick + tired about hearing the word BREXIT.

[@IvermectinFTW]

Yep - it's time to start talking about Quitaly

[@atomo8730]

@@IvermectinFTW you don't know what you're talking about. In the meanwhile we can stop this sharade

[@fitzstv8506]

@@IvermectinFTW That is all it will be just talking about quitaly, EU support in Italy is at 80% and this is after the covid disaster.

[@heatea5255]

@@IvermectinFTW Italy cannot ever quit the EU most of their debt is owned by French banks they already sold emselves off because of bad management

[@fitzstv8506]

@Leroy Jenkins A minority in Italy are dissatisfied with the EU a fringe of this minority want to leave...80% of Italians are happy to continue with membership this is the reality get over it and mind your own business, Britain is no longer an EU member.

[@sahilnadeem1309]

EU: we have prepared €5 billion reserve for most affected by brexit UK: We LiNed Up LoRriEs

[@robbuelens]

Lorries go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@stucrawford6230]

@Sahil, You have hit the Nail on the Head, England is hopelessly outmatched here.

[@christopherg2347]

@James Berry Yes, you are negoting with someone 20 times your size and power. That is the definition of "outmatched".

[@baffbaff4085]

EU: Wehave prepared $5billion reserve for most affected by Brexit. Britain: That is so much cheaper than our membership.

[@BewareOfTheKraut]

Steveness stiffler 4 World Cups and 1 EU, doo dah...

[@GreenmanXIV]

I hear they're already calling the Kent lorry park a 'Farage Garage'.

[@fitzstv8506]

Th Farage garage, long term parking at great cost.

[@Christinebanks11]

USA 🇺🇸 Canada ger-RAJ other English speaking countries , GAR-ej

[@GreenmanXIV]

@John Burrett You believe India, is in the EU and Farage is a national hero and you call me an idiot sad.

[@fitzstv8506]

@John Burrett Farage is not a national hero because his views and attitude run contrary to those of a significant majority of the UK population and even the present right wing tools that are called the British Government have no or little time for him. By the Way India is not in the EU.

[@Wearywillie-x5t]

@John Burrett His pension is psid for, in part, by the UK.

[@spoopytime9928]

When there is no deal reached and the timeline pushes the UK out of the EU regulations completely, it should be called BrexYEET.

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

James Berry A middle ranking power that isn’t delusional about its place in the world and understood the limitations of sovereignty in a one world economy

[@ThekillingGoku]

​@James Berry If you trade on equal footing, with anyone for that matter, be it countries, businesses or people ... you'll always need an independent organ with the legal power to hold each party liable for either side's indiscretions. Each party must hold up their end of the bargain. And if they don't ... either side needs to be able to have a means to make sure of that. Just the same that if you were to get some mainland Chinese contractor to come build your home only to have him split after poring a few drops of concrete. You pretty much only want to get into a trading relationship when you have protections in place really. In this case, you'd have no way to fight back. You need a way to fight back. :-)

[@VolkerHett]

@James Berry And you don't have to! No need to have any agreements with your neighbors at all.

[@0xCAFEF00D]

@@ThekillingGoku People have this view of courts as a political organ now since this populism wave. As if western Europe doesn't have functioning separation of powers. Even in the US where I hear the most complaining they don't seem to care about what the consequences of decisions are or the logic behind them. Despite their decisions being so trivial to read in the most relevant cases. Ignoring tensions in the south China sea this attitude is what bothers me the most. This is the road to tyranny and a weaker west. To destroy the populations understanding of the system they live in like this is dangerous.

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

ThekillingGoku it’s even worse than that. Without a singular adjudication court, every trade dispute has the potential to blow up into a major trade war.

[@bazza2974]

I want to see a video on the possible implications of a no-deal Brexit and how it will interact with COVID-19

[@PanglossDr]

No need. Just combine the words 'pan', 'down' and 'the'.

[@kizwiz6]

our economy going to shit thanks to both.

[@rubikscubeking8398]

johnson will blame everything bad that happens post brexit on covid. it's a perfect excuse for this most disgusting prime minister. ps i'm not a labour supporter, but i hate hate what johnson, gove, rees-mogg, francois, shapps, leadsom & cummings have done to the conservative party. awful power-obsessed people

[@michaelgpd1103]

Come back in ten years

[@The_gaming_archaeologist]

I've seen videos on the implications before Covid and considering what Operation Yellowhammer described, the mass delays for food and medicine imports are bad enough let alone Covid adding to it and the people out there who claim it isn't real and coughing on people.

[@genidoagnelli8409]

"Don't worry, Rodney. This time next year, we'll be millionaires!"

[@Anderson-f4t6c]

*NO DEAL : I am inevitable* *BREXIT : And I am* _a dumpster fire_

[@mranimazing2190]

No deal: Snaps out half of all trade with the EU from existence

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

MrAnimazing Not quite. It it does make British exports uncompetitive in the EU. It does however destroy the British export industry for services. All businesses engaged in such trade must relocate to the EU to save those businesses

[@ollysj5659]

Stephen T do really think they’ll do that since being in the UK have far easier access to off shore businesses. Cause I don’t think they will especially how so many big businesses use them to gain an edge I don’t think they’ll want to lose that .

[@TheRealHelvetica]

For the EU perhaps, the UK still has access the the rest of the damn world while the EU remains sheltered in loosing euros due to the deep debt of the tourist trap countries.

[@paraicmchugh5468]

@@TheRealHelvetica The EU still trades with the rest of the world. It's that they have better terms inside the Common Market.

[@miratussum6232]

From the mainland. Enough is enough please exit ASAP good riddance 👋👋👋

[@nuadhaairgeadlamh4756]

If there's no deal then Scotland's as good as gone.

[@darrenfoster442]

Given Scotland's deficit is seven times higher than UK as a whole last year I wonder who picks up the bill if that happens?

[@aryanofpersia]

@@sambarrett6445 Me too mate!

[@sambland3903]

Good. Scotland is a net drain to the UKs economy.

[@callumcollopy-smith8483]

Whilst it would be sad to see Scotland leave the UK I can't say I would miss that bloody sturgeon woman

[@KingofCabal]

Good. All Scotland does is complain, complain and complain. And costs the UK Much more than it brings in. Good luck with that deficit.

[@chalkyness]

I’d be interested in a ‘what would a no deal 2021 be like for Britain’.

[@Anglo_Browza]

chalkyness good is the answer to that

[@baffbaff4085]

A load of whinging remoaners. Same as 2020, 2019,2018, 2017, 2016, 2015.

[@jackkruese9929]

Pretty devastating, especially after Covid, according to the head of the CBI which represents 190 000 Uk businesses. I d take her word over any brexiteers.

[@chalkyness]

Anglo Browza, you say ‘Good’. Do you mean that some aspects will be good? Or that it will all be so good that we’ll be asking ourselves why didn’t we do this years ago. Or that you’re just whistling in the dark because actually you’re sh*t scared at what a disaster it’s all turned out to be?

[@GonzoTehGreat]

Hopefully, it's going to hit the UK economy hard, resulting in a fall in living standards and pushing a lot of people into poverty. Despite the incompetence of successive governments, the poorly informed EU referendum campaign, the ridiculous inability of parliament to achieve consensus regarding the withdrawal agreement, and now the mismanagement of Covid-19, there are still a lot of Brits who arrogantly believe they're exceptional, perhaps because of what their ancestors historically achieved. Nevertheless, this misplaced hubris should be exposed. Some people need to learn the hard way.

[@angiki9988]

I get the impression that Johnson's strategy has always been to stall out negotiations until no deal is inevitable and simply blame the EU for it. The funny thing is that isn't even a bad plan, politically speaking.

[@SlothofBangkok]

That is actually a good plan. I must admit if that is his game plan, Johnson is smarter than I think.

[@tenaciousdean6179]

@@SlothofBangkok Johnson is incredibly inteligent. It would be absolutely foolish to underestimate him. It's been a calculated risk to head the leave campaign all along in his bid to become PM, and David Cameron would have practically given him the job once he eventually stepped down (he's said as much in interviews). His first name isn't even Boris, that's just one of his middle names he uses for his persona. His real first name is Alexander and it's what his close friends/family call him (or Alex). Apparently, he also *really* likes to be liked by people, which is why he's not been a particularly divisive figure so far. Everything he's done during the Pandemic is basically just shifting blame to anyone but the government. Work at home *if you can* (go to work anyway if not), and this ability is gauged by your employer. Put a mask on in shops and public transport *if you want* up until last month (but there's still very little to no enforcement). Pubs are allowed to be open, but *they* have to enforce their own social distancing measures which again have very little enforcement by the govt.

[@SlothofBangkok]

Tenacious Dean Proving the left is dumb for the underestimating their enemy.

[@allthatchas]

@@tenaciousdean6179 That's not intelligence, that's liberalism and deregulation. Whether that's smart is a matter for debate.

[@tenaciousdean6179]

@@allthatchas Perhaps, but the fact that his gamble fully paid off when putting all his weight behind Brexit (after reportedly thinking about the decision for a long time according to Cameron) should tell you all you need to know given how things played out. Remember back in 2016? How he stood down from the leadership election? There was 100% a deal between him and May to make him Foreign Secretary in return for her victory. This was a safe bet for him, because it gave him the chance to let her be a patsy Prime Minister for everything that would go wrong, and it also gave him the 'experience' in the cabinet (if you can call it that) when she finally and inevitably fucked it all up and resigned. He challenged her very publicly on numerous occasions and eventually resigned from the cabinet because he knew the Brexit crowd would eventually get him into the leadership and win his next election. What his goals are now though, who knows. I can't imagine a no deal being beneficial to the UK in the short term at all and this is going to make it very difficult for him to cling onto power when our economy tanks even further after COVID than comparable countries. I suspect answering 'immigration question' once and for all may be his ticket to victory since he can blame any failures on them (or let that cockroach Farage do that for him), whilst also blaming the virus for any failures in the next five years.

[@DavidMills83]

Got to love a politicians saying he'd bet on us being ready for no deal, yep history especially recent history shows how good we are at being prepared for major situations. I'm laughing through my tears :(

[@clappedoutmotor]

It's almost absurdly ironic isn't it, all you can do is cry-laugh

[@HarryNott]

@James Berry We've got most Covid deaths (46,706) and second only (313, 798) to Spain (329,784) in cases? yeah man, really good job, definitely not looking like the sick man of Europe right now.

[@neodym5809]

Even better, Gove said the UK will be ready by 2024.

[@tashunka8123]

@James Berry good attempt at distracting but this is not about C19, this is about No Deal with the EU, in respect of which one Tory is saying we will be ready, another one (Gove) saying we will not be ready and a third one saying we don't even have a plan to get ready.

[@ashra8281]

@James Berry yeah that's why we're like 12 in people infected but 4th in deaths... we weren't ready for covid and we're not prepared for brexit, also @Tash Unka had better english than you, and "we were as ready as any for Covid virus" which btw is wrong it's not covid virus, it's corona virus the disease is covid 19

[@gogobrasil7185]

Maybe the no deal is the push Scotland needed to leave and seek their way back to the EU. It's what they wanted. It's too big of a decision to impose on an entire country like that.

[@m.planck2744]

I hope scottland will leave and then join the eu. But this will take a long time if it actually happens.

[@KneeJerkReactor]

Boris Johnson: We will get our act together COVID19 AND NO DEAL BREXIT: We'll see about that.

[@jonathanwilson8951]

No deal brexit was never going to be a problem, if anything, it is to our advantage. covid is a self inflicted wound that the western world as a whole will have to weather.

[@gastarbeiter1]

@@jonathanwilson8951 We'll see about that.

[@peterparker219]

@@jonathanwilson8951 Right Jonathan, because they need us more than we need them. Dream on

[@jonathanwilson8951]

@@peterparker219 I never said that. Stop putting words in peoples mouths. Not cool

[@peterparker219]

@@jonathanwilson8951 Wow, a susceptible leaver. Surprise, surprise

[@janlievens6964]

"We need to repaint the wall, let's vote, do we paint it the same colour or something different" 48% the same 52% different colour "OK, what colour would you like it?". 5% marigold 4.5% magnolia 4.2% white 4% old English white 3.6% wallpaper 3.3% cream 15% other "Right being as we can't decide on the colour shall we just paint it the same as it was" "NOO, THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN WE WANT TO PAINT THE WALL" "Are you sure, considering only 71% of you could have voted and only 53% actually voted, don't you think it would be fair to have another vote?" "NOOOOO, THATS NOT DEMOCRATIC, RESPECT OUR VOTES." "But you lot can't deci...." "WE WANT A DIFFERENT COLOUR, NOW" "OK, what colour?" "A DIFFERENT COLOUR, YOU LOT WHO WANT THE SAME COLOUR ARE JUST MESSING WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS" "But how?" "YOU JUST ARE"

[@theMoporter]

And so the painter decides he'll paint it with his friend's marked-up cheap shite.

[@bazrobb6242]

SALTY REMOANERS I DRINK YOU,RE TEARS .YOU LOST GET OVER IT .

[@fitzstv8506]

@@bazrobb6242 The usual predictable response from an obviously well educated and informed brexiteer.

[@bazrobb6242]

@@fitzstv8506 get over it salty .

[@vitas75]

@@bazrobb6242 your* Your standard xiter. Cant even write.

[@rickowsky]

Europe should be tired of the UK already... de Gaulle was right, they will never know how integrated the EU would be today if they never accepted the UK membership

[@midnight8341]

As an EU citizen, I can assure you, we are very, very tired of them already... But due to Corona, we have a good excuse to largely ignore their whining until we evict them... They're to cats of politics, standing between door and frame, wanting to go out, but not like that because it's raining, but as soon as you try to close the door, they start screeching.

[@quasar4780]

@John Burrett De gaulle wasn't more anglophobic than the average french citizen. You must live in a bubble if you think the englis are loved worldwide.

[@mufak]

@@ebutlink Yepeee, if no-one would bring "we did not win World War (add number) for this" I would almost miss it. What has your history lecture to do with the comment above ?

[@midnight8341]

@John Burrett no... Just that the French and the British weren't exactly fond of each other. You know who wasn't either? The French and the Germans. We constantly fought wars for the better part of the last millenium. That's what I call hatred. But we put that aside and today our two nations are basically as close as it gets. Of course there's problems and differences, like in every relationship and yes, our politicians might not reflect that relationship perfectly, but the French and German population very much love each other.

[@Bahama3ay]

Interestingly, De Gaulle couldn't understand why the British even wanted to join the EEC in the first place. In his famous press conference of January 1963, when he vetoed British entry, he pointed out that Britain had democratic political institutions, world trade links, cheap food from the Commonwealth and was a global power. Why would it want to enter the EEC?

[@linaiisaye8357]

How is the UK still on the perspective off: "None of the responsibility all of the benefits". If you want free trade with the EU then you need to adhere to our standards, thats the case for the ENTIRE world. Its not that hard to understand guys...

[@davidcarnochan8389]

Because we are arrogant

[@samspencer7765]

I totally agree, I hope it hits us really hard because we deserve it, well the elderly deserve it but the youngsters (at least those who voted/can't vote) don't deserve it.

[@benhopkins4587]

Sam Spencer We definitely deserves it as a country but the problem is we are paying for the shit that the age 40-50+ members of the uk have caused. We are the ones that will be affected the most and it’s already showing. Look at the school grading system they used to save gov money this year. It bs and I feel terrible for the students that felt like they got it bad.

[@trimaxionerror5696]

We are asking for a FTA, Genius. No special agreement only what other none EU nations have negotiated.

[@trimaxionerror5696]

ben hopkins you can’t be all upstairs.

[@benjaminbrewer2569]

I have a great idea, let’s cut out of decades of agreements that are designed for mutual benefit, for mutual enrichment, and for ensuring peace between the committed nations.

[@johngeier8692]

The nuclear weapons keep the peace as war is now MAD (mutually assured destruction). The EU became a costly unnecessary extra level of government.

[@charinflanrocks]

The UK just dig itself into a bigger hole. Such an enjoyable saga.

[@frankb8731]

@Leroy Jenkins - Codswollop!

[@maxharbig1167]

@Leroy Jenkins Yes. Just look at it. GDP 6 times that of the UK and a consumer base 7 times bigger. A total GDP 80 plus percent that of the USA. Why do both TRump and Putin hate the the EU? TRump becayse he can't push it around and Putin because it's got a big and rich enough consumer base to beat him down on oil and gas prices.

[@tweakerkid]

I wanted to remain but now I'm going to enjoy the ensuing chaos, pass the popcorn

[@maxharbig1167]

@Leroy Jenkins UK GDP drop 20%+ biggest in Europe. Come back with your load of bollocks in late 2021 when the shit will have really hit the fan.

[@michaelutech4786]

​@Leroy Jenkins I am so happy that you are no longer a fellow citizen.

[@JDarach]

He sounds so exhausted having to explain Brexit again

[@lonelychameleon3595]

At this point its like watching roadkill die on the side of the road.

[@likklej8]

Have you noticed that the leave voters don’t put the WTO in their comments any more.

[@baffbaff4085]

Or not. WTO please.

[@pjdilans1]

Your not in the same groups as me on facebook then. If we dont go WTO we get dragged into EU defense. There is a lot of things no good about the withdrawal agreement Mrs May agreed with her weak government.

[@sabinehahn9774]

@Dr Professor and most likely they won't make it very enjoyable for GB - who could blame them?

[@sabinehahn9774]

@Joe Bloggs sounds like the winning the US is doing under Trump ...

[@likklej8]

Joe Bloggs it’s not a fooking football game you are just loosing slowly buy or sell sterling.

[@malahammer]

Yup! It's a pity no one ever...saw that coming. FFS UK! No better than the US these days.

[@benowen8321]

Yes you are right. OMG Like how stupid is it to do hard things. Like why do people even try. OMFG just do what is easyist.

[@arandomguy8771]

Wait im confused before Covid the US had its best economy in years? sure Trumps a potty mouth but if I was American who would you chose someone actively doing what people want or someone who let me make a small list 1. wants to keep the middle east war going...2 Managed to make halve the country to hate her *with* media support and 3 Most likely taking it easy on China witch yknow concentration camps and suppressing freedom of speech etc etc

[@arandomguy8771]

@J Mansfield indeed to be honest right now there is no telling what is to happen but odds wise I like our chances

[@carlbernsen1290]

Sadly, Brexit supporters thought ‘Take back control’ was meant for them.

[@andrasadam8256]

True. The UK held a special position in the EU, where they enjoyed most benefits but had the option to opt out of many things and hold the EU back from further integration. Now we are hitting two birds with one stone. The EU is taking back control, and the UK is not there to hold us back anymore, and we can also make an example out of them to scare other countries away from leaving (since some people are too stupid to listen to reason).

[@robertdixon9701]

András Ádám spoken like a true dictator

[@andrewstupak6668]

@Aaron Davies you're

[@curtisdaniel9294]

"it ain't over til it's over." And it will be over with No Deal.

[@LoserZalbo]

Well no, as they just explained, No deal just means they have to go back to the table later, once the economy is weaker.

[@baffbaff4085]

Please hold your breath.

[@Hecatonicosachoron]

Oh it will never be over. It will just mean a decade-long process of trade talks with the EU during which the UK economy will be depressed. These trade talks will succeed only with a somewhat competent government, which means that the tories must lose power.

[@arandomguy8771]

The Eu does not make up the the rest of the world I hate to break it to you folks if you look at the new trade deal comparisons the uk might just be in a better position than you might think not an expert but might want to look at some statistics

[@nsierra2297]

No deal would mean starting trade deal negotiations with us severely hamstrung. Not good for the U.K. at all.

[@video99couk]

No Deal is something that Brexiteers and Remainers can both get behind. Brexiteers because so many say that's what they wanted, and Remainers because it will show what a disaster Brexit is and we can get on with disposing of Dominic Cummings and rejoining the EU.

[@throughthematter7053]

We will miss you. Lots of love from Germany 🇩🇪🇬🇧

[@elihoy5977]

Thank you for posting a sensible comment.

[@splizzex]

@@elihoy5977 Hello I'm from germany, love to the UK! It is a shame you decided to leave and be reintegrated by force but oh well, what can you do. I'd just like to say we won't hold any grudge if you resist. If you excuse me, I have to go to my tank training to prepare for our visit to england. See you guys soon

[@sK3LeTvM1]

And thank you for bombing the German economy during WW2. The rebuild made it even stronger !

[@geoffobrien1783]

@@splizzex we will return

[@therealdave06]

Remember the referendum 4 years ago? It was agreed upon to be non-binding by all parties, basically an opinion poll. If only it was marketed as so towards the public...

[@stephenconway2468]

Plus if it had been really binding it would have to been run to a proper standard.

[@budgetjones7719]

Voter turnout was abysmally low. It wasn't even properly legal as a referendum but Boris and his pals want out so...

[@spoopytime9928]

I'm counting on Jack and the bois to make post-Brexit news like a massive Schroedinger's unboxing video.

[@steveharvey2001]

Will Larry be the star??

[@nicolassecretin7834]

Hahahahahahahaha mate I love the idea! 😂

[@spoopytime9928]

Larry can sit in the empty box after the unboxing and stare at everyone judgementally.

[@joelthomastr]

Can you do one on what happens to Northern Ireland and Gibraltar in a no deal scenario? I mean, as it appears right now?

[@sorh]

I guess they'll be flooded with British migrants, arriving in rubber dinghies

[@briansteele2723]

Then explain how Scotland should be happy with such a special arrangement. 🖐🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🤣

[@annoyingbstard9407]

Joel Thomas Businesses will carry on as before because that's what businesses do. Brussels will be upset.

[@chrismalcomson7640]

Gibraltar has 12000 Spanish workers going there every day so the Spanish will want to keep that going. The natives will probably need a visa to go to Spain though. Northern island will end up with a hard border like it did during the troubles..

[@Adam25B]

The fact that we are already in a recession with furlough ending in the next few months is stressful. I hate to think what the economy will be like after a no deal brexit as well

[@Gambit771]

As it the EU isn't suffering or that it is guaranteed to be a bad thing. Funny how remoaners have zero ability to look to the future (or beyond their own nose) and that if things go bad then that is how they will stay forever 🙄 I bet if this was the 70s they'd be against joining the EU... Well the eec because the EU is undemocratic and we never voted to join that, because it is a change and that's scary. Happy to keep things the way they are and never be brave and so what Britain has always done and that is take chances and venture out into the unknown.

[@DavidWilliams-DSW558]

The question is, do Brexiteers really want the UK to continue trading with the EU? I expect not.

[@meneither3834]

They don't really have a choice.

[@bazrobb6242]

@@meneither3834 and why is that please explain .

[@meneither3834]

@@bazrobb6242 the UK doesn't manufacture enough products nor grows enough food for it's own needs. Sure they could import from overseas but it would be so inefficient compared to importing from the EU that they can't rely on it fully.

[@simtill]

@@bazrobb6242 Proximity matters a huge deal (pun intended) in trade relations. And the EU is the UK's next door neighbour they need for materials, imports and parts, and also as a Market for British goods.

[@IvermectinFTW]

Breathtaking ignorance. Companies and individuals don't 'trade with the EU'. They trade with each other - with or without a free trade agreement

[@michaelutech4786]

With all the taint coming in from the UK, I would really like it if the EU just cancelled the negotiations. Trade deals can always be negotiated at a later time when both sides see mutual advantages. This kind of divorce negotiation is just too annoying to watch. Let the UK evaluate how it's doing outside the EU. The EU already suffered most of the damage induced by Brexit, it has little left to lose and next to nothing to win. I'm so tired of this bickering.

[@chrismalcomson7640]

I agree, the UK wants a comprehensive deal on terms unacceptable to the EU. Why continue this sharade. Just do individual deals that can be done and the UK loses access to the single market. The UK government needs to prepare the country for the Brexit hit thats sure to come. The nation voted for this and they deserve whatever it brings...

[@budgetjones7719]

first common sense I've read this whole thread.

[@karldeanalegre4528]

get on with the no deal brexit. i really want to see what would happen to british smugness when it faces the Continental system, 2.0

[@bazkaz2611]

British Smugness??? Have you ever seen a more smug face than that of Michel Barnier Ha Ha Ha Ha

[@alexde7055]

@@bazkaz2611 the UK 🤡 in charge

[@vullings1968]

@@bazkaz2611 Well, after Jan 1st we will see who was right withthe smugness...

[@karldeanalegre4528]

@@bazkaz2611 People who are negotiating from a position of strength usually are. i want to see what happens to "unfounded" british smugness after a no deal brexit.

[@peterwalton1502]

British smugness! The majority of British voters voted to leave the EU and that is all we are trying to do. Nothing smug about that

[@Plair0ne]

"There's two big stumbling blocks..." Wait, is Ireland solved, have I missed something?

[@znail4675]

Ireland was solved by the WA. The only issue is that the solution willl take longer to implement then there is time left. But that is a UK problem.

[@gaton6116]

Remember when tldr news was known as the Brexit channel.

[@gahane]

Yes, fondly. Back when times were simpler and watching the UK commit economic suicide was fun to watch.

[@callumcollopy-smith8483]

And now tldr is a leftist channel and pro eu. Who would have thought it lol

[@benowen8321]

When was this channel a Brexit channel LOL

[@benabusthethird9751]

@@callumcollopy-smith8483 point me to the bias? Everything is backed with sources? He even stuck up for half the conspirators of Brexit?

[@Gambit771]

This channel once was in support of Brexit or at least impartial? That must be a lie.

[@AlexanderTF]

There will be no deal and the UK will not be prepared in any way ...

[@SlothofBangkok]

Dr Professor like trade with China? Trade is beneficial when both side play fair with honor. But not with a bunch of cheaters in cahoot with one another. At that point it time to cut. I head India have quite an interesting market and appreciative customer unlike a geriatric wine aunt in the EU. With exception of Italy. The people there are smarter than the government

[@martijnvanderlee]

How to negotiate deals, the british version. UK: We have no leverage, are set to lose most by not having a deal and want a deal which disadvantages you. EU: ... Hahahahahahaha!

[@willyhill7509]

The EU are doing a lot of huffing and puffing if they have nothing to lose ? They lose their biggest export market, millions of tons of fish and billions and billions of UK taxpayers money.

[@martijnvanderlee]

@@willyhill7509 "Nothing" is not the same as "less". UK has a lot more to lose.

[@DavieLad85]

Martijn van der Lee the UK has a lot to gain, like an enormous trade deal with the US, the EU is going to crumble very soon so a no deal is the way forward.

[@andrasadam8256]

@@DavieLad85 Or maybe the UK is going to crumble since Scotland will most likely leave it to join the EU, maybe inspiring Northern Ireland and Wales as well.

[@DavieLad85]

András Ádám I’ve lived in Scotland my entire life, don’t believe stories that everyone is behind that troll Sturgeon in leaving the UK. It’s only the media that paint that narrative.

[@nicolasa.florezpena2955]

To think that the pain for the UK will be over once the transition period finishes is stupid, Scotland will definitely vote to leave the UK as soon they can hold a new referendum; unfortunately, it'll be only by then when the people will realise how Brexit wasn't about tearing apart the EU but their own nation.

[@nathanh5448]

Looks like the oven's empty.

[@davidcarnochan8389]

Oh well. Microwave it is then.

[@nathanh5448]

@@davidcarnochan8389 Shit, looks like the power's out in No. 10 for that microwavable deal.

[@zacharybohlman4069]

Dr Professor you don't get the joke

[@YouTube_4u]

8:22 There is a typo: it says "divorSe" instead of "divorce". Thank you for the video, great content.

[@ChilapaOfTheAmazons]

It's the British spelling.

[@MrMousiee]

@@ChilapaOfTheAmazons no it's not...

[@HansVonMannschaft]

Whoever does the text for these videos is clearly dyslexic. There are typos in every video. Also they seem to not even have bothered investing in a decent mic. Excellent videos, but really poor production values.

[@dominicburns6684]

Chilapa of the Amazons it’s definitely not I’m british

[@goodlookingcorpse]

The EU came up with its position in 2017: the UK can have what it wants (tariff-free access to the single market) in return for what we want (alignment with EU standards), roughly along the lines of the EU's deals with the members of EFTA. The UK government asked if they could have tariff-free access without alignment. The EU negotiators said no. Liam Fox was wrong to predict be the easiest deal in human history, but it must have been the quickest negotiation in human history, if 'negotiation' is understood to cover only that part of the discussion where the outcome is unknown. For several years the UK government has been repeating itself and the EU negotiators have been repeating themselves in response. The EU negotiating team is legally forbidden to say yes, even if they wanted to. The most probable scenario is that the UK government has spent several years striking 'negotiating positions' which they know will not be accepted because they believe it will make them look good to a domestic audience. If that's not true, and they genuinely believe that 'it might work this time', then they are so astonishingly stupid that it might be better if they were liars.

[@Welgeldiguniekalias]

"it might be better if they were liars." Then I've got some great news for you!

[@baffbaff4085]

Lol. Include financial services and you would have had yourself a deal. But you haven't, so you don't.

[@Bahama3ay]

Strange that as soon as Canada's trade minister Chrystia Freeland walked away from the EU table after 7 years of getting nowhere during their CETA trade talks, stating: "It is now evident to me, evident to Canada, that the European Union is incapable of reaching an agreement", that the EU suddenly said: "Whoa, hold on there, let's sit back down and talk about this" and a deal was done.

[@Welgeldiguniekalias]

@@Bahama3ay Not really. There was a deal, but the Walloon parliament rejected it. She then cried some crocodile tears about not having seen her children for so long while negotiating the deal, and promptly every national parliament in Europe went: "Awww, you poor thing!" and ratified CETA. Maybe Boris can cry on camera about not being allowed to play with the other euro kids, and he'd have his deal.

[@Bahama3ay]

@@Welgeldiguniekalias, errrm, you might want to check your facts on that, because the Wallonia objection and then subsequent agreement wasn't ratification, it was just an acceptance of the CETA agreement in principle. Right now CETA is only an agreement in principle because it has NOT been ratified by all EU members, only about 15 EU members have fully ratified CETA, with Cyprus only recently voting against ratifying it because of an objection to halloumi cheese. Maybe Ursula von der Leyen can cry on camera about not being allowed to play with the Canadian kids and she would have her deal.!!

[@maxharbig1167]

"I got what I asked for but then found out it wasn't what I really needed." They've got their Brexit but haven't got a clue what to do with it.

[@maxharbig1167]

@James Berry Which is?

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

I don"t understand how anyone would have thought it would work. Maybe it is just because i am french, and i can look across the channel without national pride or political interference, but honestly the best plan was "presure the EU, leave, and then figure it out from there" which was so much of a red flag that the comunists want a word with bojo. And all of that in the middle of the ONE time period in our generation where international cooperation between western democraties is nessesary for our continued survival.

[@outsmokeyou]

@James Berry We know exactly what to do. Follow WTO rules set by unelected bureaucrats in... where even is the WTO based?

[@Cibershadow2]

@@outsmokeyou I get your point about accountability, but also WTO rules literally just means "The bare minimum rules for trade world-wide". They're not favourable towards small independent countries, which is why almost no country relies on them for significant trade partnerships.

[@neodym5809]

@@maxharbig1167 Disaster capitalism (Rees-Moggs father wrote a book about it). Run the nation into the ground, force it to sell its assets for pennies, buy them cheap and then turn it in an oligarchic paradise (like Russia).

[@Hecatonicosachoron]

The thing that infuriates me is how now the inevitable recession will be blamed on covid when it was created by tory incompetence.

[@jamesbates5901]

@Mark Richardson mark i'm struggling to understand your point, could you explain further please?

[@kantpredict]

KZbin has enabled mid-roll ads on all eligible videos and it's opt-out, not in. It really breaks the immersion and creators need to stand up for their craft and tell KZbin that not everyone wants as many ads as possible per video.

[@joshlee7562]

I've always been under the impression that TLDR News goes out of it's way to make most of it's videos over 10 minutes specifically so that they can have as many ads as possible on their videos. It might be a coincidence that TLDR videos are usually a little over 10 minutes though, they do make some shorter videos. However many creators aggressively seek to hit the 10 minute mark for more ads sometimes really hurting their content not just with ads but with garbage filler content. Although I hear it's either 8 minute videos now or it will be that 8 minute videos become eligible for mid roll ads at some point in the future.

[@kantpredict]

@@joshlee7562 yes it is any video over 8 minutes that is now eligible for adverts. The problem is it is being applied to any and all eligible videos if you don't opt out for it as well as being applied RETROACTIVELY

[@amitaipalmon428]

Boris Johnson needs to learn his lessons the hard way. It's just a pity that UK population needs to pay the tuition for his education.

[@patricaomas8750]

@Andrew Sarchus more people voted against him it's the voting system we have

[@TheDrumlinBoy]

When did the Tories ever look after the hard working people of Britian ? This is the final act on the road to Scottish independence and a United Ireland. UK RIP. It's the old story with every empire that ever existed "Once upon a time" In time assuming Westminster reforms it's political system such as allowing proportional representation in a true democracy will England find it's proper and rightful position as a strong European nation. Start by retiring the "House of Lords"

[@jacquesswyngedouw5992]

After all Brexit might turn out into BrexSPLIt the split of an united country into it’s previous form of 4 countries. All because of Some English fantasy and haughtiness. Farewell 🇬🇧

[@Gambit771]

Funny how those with no argument always fall back on the empire line. Like everyone in Britain remembers it just like blacks remember slavery despite the fact no-one cares.

[@Bahama3ay]

@@jacquesswyngedouw5992, the UK has been in existence for centuries, but yet for some strange reason you arrogantly seem to think that just because we have decided to leave the EU, the UK will somehow "break up", whilst totally ignoring the fact that the EU has only been in existence for a few decades, and it is already breaking up by default of the UK leaving it.!!

[@jacquesswyngedouw5992]

Dangerous Dave wherry do you live? On an island. Welcome to the 21rst century

[@Bahama3ay]

@@jacquesswyngedouw5992, errrm, I live in the UK in the 21st century, care to explain how that negates anything that I've said in my previous comment?

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

The problem as always is brexiter expectations. Their expectation is a “simple free trade deal” will give them pretty much everything they had in the single market except for free movement and other “political” stuff. The poor dears don’t understand that there is no such thing as a simple trade deal. Sectional interests in the countries concerned means that every deal comes with hundred of exceptions and pages of fine print. Compounding this is that the British government is utterly untrustworthy so the EU is not going to leave anything to chance or a gentlemen’s agreement. There is no way the EU is going to permit tariff free trade with a country that has said it will engage in unfair trading practices, as the UK has when it rejected a level playing field. There’s nothing in it for the EU to get agreement with a rogue player like the UK. The UK is its own worst enemy. All that early aggression against the EU has reduced trust to zero. Boo hoo.

[@Sleeping_Insomiac]

@steve gale What treaty has been changed without consent? Oh, right, you nobs want to unilaterally change the withdrawal agreement...

[@Andromahlius]

@Alexander Challis What most people fail to realise is that for the EU to sign something, there has to be a gain for them. They won't sign a treaty giving an advantage to a competitor, and they'd be very dumb to, especially when the beneficial effects of not having the UK being troublemakers have already been seen at the last european summit: an agreement would never have been found if the UK was still there. Although Brexit is a major fuckup from Britain, it is an unexpected boon to the european union, who got rid of the UK.

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

steve gale Sorry mate, I deal in reality not in the paranoid delusions that flit gayly across you brain.

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

John Burrett What is simple about NAFTA, brexit boy

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

steve gale Says the bloke who made up some EU “betrayal “ that never happened. lol!

[@WeGameEXP]

Spam @LiamFox "The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the EU should be one of THE EASIEST IN HISTORY" -Liam Fox 2016

[@neodym5809]

@John Burrett Fox wanting to go to Berlin to negotiate shows his knowledge about this process.

[@nicoladelsud9774]

@John Burrett Why did he omit 4 words (but it won't be)? Out of ink? Or short of breath?

[@Bahama3ay]

If you are going to take that quote as gospel then why not take the rest of it as gospel as well instead of just selecting the bit that suits your narrative? What Liam Fox actually said was: "A post-Brexit free trade deal with the EU "SHOULD" be the easiest in human history, but the UK could survive without one." Note the word "SHOULD" in his comment, and the context in which it was meant, and note your own twisting of that context. YOU and many Remoaners like you, have deliberately twisted those words out of context to mean that he implied that a trade deal with the EU "WOULD" be the easiest deal in history. Liam Fox is correct, it "SHOULD" be the easiest deal in history, because the UK is starting off on the same equal footing as the EU, having already been EU compliant for the past 40+ years. Also note the words: "but the UK could survive without one." So if there is no deal then obviously the UK can survive without one.

[@SimplyVanis]

@John Burrett What do you mean by "EU will be obstructive and difficult"? EU has the right to say no what UK proposes. Because UK is no longer a superpower to kneel to.

[@SimplyVanis]

@John Burrett Hard to say. I learnt English from the internet, like most of the world. And proper English =/= American as well, so who knows what's correct unless I google everything I say. And why does it matter though? You have fetish for perfect written text?

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

The Brexiter definition of British sovereignty precludes any other nation but the United States having sovereignty. No wonder they can’t understand what is going on.

[@misterneckbreaker88]

Uk will be financially crippled by the end of brexit. Billions here billions there.

[@wekapeka3493]

Well that will be a saving, it used to be tens of billions every year to the eu.

[@stephenconway2468]

@@wekapeka3493 So far Brexit running at £200 billion a year and with the EU net contribution at £13 billion. You got your sums the wrong way around.

[@jackrussell3755]

Scotland does not support brexit and by far does not support a no deal brexit, do this at your own risk to ur precious union

[@jonsid6628]

Half of Scotland.

[@jackrussell3755]

Jon Sid 62% and probably more

[@jonsid6628]

@@jackrussell3755 62% of what?

[@reality-cheque]

...but Canada and Japan don’t have to accept ECJ jurisdiction! Before the referendum, there were several government leaflets stressing that a vote to leave would mean leaving the single market, leaving the ECJ jurisdiction and leaving EU freedom of movement. The prime minister, ministers, governor of the Bank of England, head of the CBI, finance sector leaders, the mainstream media, foreign leaders, the president of the United States and even Bob Geldof told us how to vote... ...we were told that just a vote to leave would bring financial collapse, recession, lower wages and massive unemployment. ...in the face of overwhelming bias, we still voted to leave. You are so wrong if you think we didn’t vote for no deal. Now, the EU are teetering on the edge of financial disaster and the U.K’s pandemic recovery prospects look better than any other EU member! The EU have adopted such an unreasonable negotiating position that WTO terms are certain unless HMG caves into them - which seems unlikely. With the EU enjoying a €100 billion annual trade surplus with the U.K. a trade deal is certain very soon after December 2020.

[@januszkurahenowski2860]

Uk gdp has decreased by over 20% this year, an all time record. And now they are at a point where achieving a trade deal is impossible because they have a couple months for something which typically takes years to do (when both parties actually want to work with each other and are willing to concede - something the Uk is not willing to do). Having no trade deal will mean chaos, Europe is the largest trade partner of the UK by far. It seems like an unprecedented economic catastrophe is coming in the UK which will be much worse for them than for the rest of the EU. I don't want to be smug or anything but I don't know what people were expecting to happen when they decided to leave the largest trade block in the world which is essentially a trade union.

[@billyfox6368]

We need just to compromise on the majority of issues; we retain so much less negotiating power and a lot of the elements that we're rejecting would actually benefit us. For example, the Common Fisheries Policy would increase competition and yes, some of that would not be British; however, that really shouldn't matter if it improves quality, ensures environmental standards and reduces the price for the consumer.

[@jedlomax100]

Always the plan from day one.

[@sivakumar103]

Im a die hard fishing fan.

[@grahamlive]

Caught anything today mate?

[@TOMCOOZE25]

@@grahamlive covid

[@fizmo303]

It's not about catching eels in London canals.

[@YaxKukMo1426]

Thought it was an odd way to describe trawlermen.

[@CTCTraining1]

.. I enjoyed Die Hard, but can’t remember Bruce going fishing ..

[@harmanharmanharman08]

Could you do a video on how UK and EU students will be affected once the transition is over?

[@b00i00d]

The European Court bit doesn't make any sense at all: why is that a whole subject of its own and why does it have to be negotiated now? Surely all those decades that the UK has been a member of the EU they have been playing by the ECJ's rules as far as EU trading goes. They simply have to stick to that to continue trading with the EU while they are free to negotiate whatever terms they wish to trade with other countries. How is that an issue??? The ECJ is not trying to interfere with the UK's trading deals with other (outside EU) countries, are they?

[@tessjuel]

ECJ rules only apply to goods and services for the EU market of course but there are some practical issues. Workers' rights for example. You can't have a factory with two different crews, one manufacturing for EU with EU standards employment contracts and the other manufacturing for the rst of the world with a-pund--day wages and no health and security regulations.

[@b00i00d]

@@tessjuel Yes, it's a good point. Only thing is: the EU also trades with countries like, say, China. Are you telling me that China follows the examples you mentioned? My point is that, when it comes to _how_ you produce goods or your working conditions, the ECJ can only offer guidelines and stipulations. And again: since the UK has been in the EU since the 70s, surely these guidelines are already in effect

[@tessjuel]

@@b00i00d China is not part of the common market and their trade agreement with EU but it's not *free* trade and the agreement is far more restricted than anything the UK has proposed (except for the no-deal option of course). That's how trade agreements between nations work, the better the rules and regulations match, the less restrictions there are in the trade between them. It is of course true that UK is very well aligned with EU at the moment but a trade agreement is supposed to last for a while and the UK government has made it very clear that they have no itnention of staying aligned.

[@b00i00d]

@@tessjuel Yes. So it's a question of political will. To actually reach an agreement given the circumstances should not be difficult at all (in theory).

[@philippschwartzerdt3431]

As much as I dislike a "No Deal" - the expectation is that at this point in time it's seems inevitable! It is an unfortunate lose/lose situation! It feels like a divorce where one parent just walks out regardless and then they start fighting over the custody of their kids with all the drama. It is until both cool down and realise that kids need both parents eventually and visitation rights and rules are finally established for the benefit of the kids!

[@yannikoloff7659]

EU didn't walked out anywhere. EU always been liberal about it;- "If you wanna go, then go. But we have to protect our assets and market. So here is where we stand, come to meet us"

[@AaronOkeanos]

It's a teenager who cannot stand the parents anymore and want freedom. One night he made a paper with two crosses and crossed leaving the house. The next day he told his parent he wants to move out. And the day after he goes back to his rooms and starts to think how to survive outside. The parents gave him two weeks to move out or he is thrown out. And as the date approached and he still had no workable plan he asked the parents for a little more time ... twice. And all the time he negotiatiated with the parents to still use the kitchen, food, the bath, power and phone and paying nothing. And the parents said: No. Leave means leave.

[@fitzstv8506]

The visitation rules and rights are very simple ...align to EU single market standards and both sides continue to trade tariff free.

[@philippschwartzerdt3431]

fitzstv - this is exactly what Brexiteers don't want to. They really believed that they can have their cake and eat it... literally! Once all understand that without formal rules, standards and proper arbitration (that of the EU), free trade with the EU cannot happen, that is the day proper and serious negotiations can take place - until then I unfortunately only see a No Deal. Nevertheless when finally the sense of reality settles in, the understanding that there are no Unicorns and no pies in the sky and that absolutely no one will dance to the UK's tune and they try to blame the EU for their mishaps...- the rest of the world and especially the EU will just look at the UK and say: "we didn't do this to you, you did this to you!" The 'visitation right' rules will by then just be tougher to comply with...

[@patricaomas8750]

@@fitzstv8506 Yes problem is you want to import A merican bleached chicken, the Americans want you to adopt their standards or we having multiple standards and bureaucracy. Trade deals are apparently quite difficult say the experts but you'd know that being a international trade negotiator.

[@AaronOkeanos]

I really really like the diagram of 6:37 showing how party-vote split is on a certain issue. More of that please.

[@toms1613]

I just saw there are people who voted remain and Brex Truly intelligent

[@sandall7398]

So the EU want the UK to stick to the Withdrawel Agreement and Political Declaration, which was approved by Johnson's MPs in the Westminster Parliament and subsequently signed by the UK Government. The UK now says this is irrelevantI It doesn't matter what's been agreed and want to negotiate a deal.

[@oliverqueen5883]

The UK might set the world record for largest national recession ever

[@sK3LeTvM1]

Correction : Will set the world record.

[@m.planck2744]

They already won in terms of national embarrassment.

[@josephinewinter]

"2021 will still come" don't tell boris, he'll have a shock

[@faircomment1841]

I remember 2 options on the EU referendum ballot paper: - "Remain a member of the European Union" - "Leave the European Union" Nowhere did it say "Leave with a trade deal" or "Leave without a trade deal" So a no deal outcome has to be and should have always been considered as a possible outcome. Brexiteers: "We knew what we voted for" - so lets get preparing then, we've had over 4 years! The NOT KNOWING is the biggest damage right now. Please Brexiteers dont f*ck this up, the majority of us have respected the result of the referendum, you voted for it, you knew what you voted for now get on with it!

[@kevinmcgarrigle2539]

I’m amazed at replies that seem to say the EU were playing hard, hmmm. We left, ie don’t have a say. We want a Canada deal politicians say, except it doesn’t exist. The other countries are not going to give us a better deal for our goods that they sell anyway, get used to it. The UK relies on stuff from other nations such as fisheries from Scotland but they say bye bye what are your trading chips with no oil or gas? The UK according to some is finished, sold off to most likely the Chinese when everyone is a busted flush.

[@elia_connard405]

I can't wait to see uk split I hope Scotland will leave the uk amd will return to the eu 🇪🇺🇪🇺

[@padgepadgham3238]

Its too much in debt Bozo. I would love to see Scotland leave the UK, steadily sinking into its own mire as a third world country.

[@sK3LeTvM1]

@@padgepadgham3238 I think Scottish independence is the worst nightmare to the 'UK'. Right after Spain will invade Gibraltar. Argentina will again invade the Falklands and Europe will finally build a huge wall to keep out English refugees.

[@padgepadgham3238]

@@sK3LeTvM1 If you give me the name of your institution, I will gladly send you a few books to read in your forced incarceration.

[@Damogen]

@@padgepadgham3238 Scotland doesn't have any debt, just like England doesn't have any debt. The UK has debt. Maybe you should read a few of those books yourself before sending them.

[@padgepadgham3238]

@@Damogen You're an idiot. Are you from Scotland skiddy? 😸

[@thomasdanielsen9941]

YES!!! UK finally leave the Eurupean Union, with no deal. Great. Finally we can continue to focus on whats important for the EU and not just the UK

[@sK3LeTvM1]

An guess who will pay the price...not EU !

[@milton7763]

There will most likely be a ‘last minute’ deal - as always. The difference being that this time around that deal will just be a very shallow shill of a deal. It will be loudly celebrated by Johnson et al and only weeks and months later all the huge hassle, problems, dilemmas, resulting hostilities and loss of value and jobs will start showing. And that will all be blamed on the EU being disingenuous, not following the deal, COVID, remainers etc etc

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

Exactly. Johnson will say it's great and just like he did with the Withdrawal Agreement and then the brexitards will start moaning when they find out what it does not cover and how weak it is.

[@milton7763]

Stephen T ...and moaning against anyone except those responsible

[@eric-vu1jy]

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. JUST LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED... 😁

[@stevebrown6251]

so who is to blame. us morons who voted to leave i suppose thats exactly what i voted for LEAVE

[@emilsinclair4190]

@@stevebrown6251 I would ask for what? Many people have done different things. I definitely would have asked the population a second time about the concrete deal. Bc how can you ask for smt that consequences you can not know?

[@Daveliuhk]

Well, time to sell all my pounds

[@SlothofBangkok]

Can I buy it at a discount price.

[@aguerrero]

You guys at TLDR News do a brilliant job, and incredible how fast you react to the newsreel. Now, your graphic designer/animator keeps committing grammar typos all too frequently, maybe because of the production speed needed to meet deadlines (in this video, e.g. 8:21 moment in the video "total divorSe"). Consider introducing some final quick review to check on typos during the editing process, because your videos are very high quality (and the animations too!) but those small errors are just too visible!

[@Kiev-in-3-days]

This reminds me of a movie scene... But what was that movie.... Oh yeah: the final scene in "Thelma and Louise"!

[@Gambit771]

Well the EU have brought that upon themselves

[@patricaomas8750]

@@Gambit771 What escaping a masochistic relationship with UK good on them

[@conorturton]

The claim about countries who want to trade with the EU and have access to the market having to accept ECJ authority is just plain bullshit. Canada, Japan and even Mexico don't have to. The UK is the only nation wanting a FTA with the EU who is being required to do this.

[@Rahul-ur3jy]

UK: Takes years for Brexit Also UK: only takes few months to create two separate countries

[@nine2380]

I guess I'm moving to Scotland, when I get my Degree. Like many more students with degrees.

[@strofikornego9408]

Why trade on WTO terms when we can leave WTO and trade on our terms? Leave WTO referendum 2022, anyone?

[@marianandrei9111]

That should be the next step, a referendum should be held imediatly

[@strofikornego9408]

@@marianandrei9111 WTO is a thread to our sovereignty because WTO court is not elected by UK voters - it is elected by unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats in Geneva

[@nicholasmball]

I hope you're joking 😂😂😂

[@strofikornego9408]

@James Berry 1) WTO does demand running our country foreign trade. Unelected WTO bureaucrats make up laws that we have to follow. 2) WTO does demand paying many hundreds of millions of pounds to finance it (check WTO membership fees) 3) WTO does not demand setting the taxes, foreign policy and control of armed forces/intelligence BUT neither does the EU ! 4) fish... yes WTO does not demand access to British waters but it also does not provide an access to EU financial markets. WTO does not cover services almost at all. UK can sell the services to EU in exchange for allowing EU vessels fish in UK waters. 5) Do you see an emerging pattern here, dear Mr Project Fear Brexiter?

[@strofikornego9408]

@James Berry You are definitely NOT from UK because you seem to know absolutely nothing about the UK, Brexit and EU at all. 1) WTO does run UK foreign policy because it fully controls the disputes between countries. This gives them a huge political power. Powerful countries assign judges who then serve the interests of bureaucrats. People do not elect WTO so it is an international organisation with an unelected court that decides who can trade with whom and on what terms. 2)There are WTO laws - if a country breaks them - it gets punished.(please google WTO laws, please). 3) You argue for days that WTO funding is more fair that the EU's one - the fact remains the same - WTO requires paying ridiculous amount of tax-payer money to fund itself which is of course questionable bureaucrat run inefficient project. 4) EU is demanding UK to follow business and tax regime because UK wants to have an access to EU services. WTO does not cover services almost at all. Countries that freely trade services absolutely must have harmonised tax and business regimes. 5) EU does not demand an access to UK intelligence and military for a deal - this is a completely shameless made up point. 6) No fish - no bankers. Nothing else do discuss. 7) Brexit does change everything because Tory party and Boris Johnson gradually redefined Brexit to mean no-deal. Any deal - would mean loose of sovereignty of some form and that is a red line. No-deal without leaving WTO also means absence of sovereignty because then WTO will control our fish exports. Whom with can trade with and on what terms will be decide by UNELECTED and UNACCOUNTABLE bureaucrats in Geneva.

[@TheDrownedEarth]

Anyone would think that nearly half the population shouted loudly that Brexit was an absolutely terrible idea...

[@paulmclaughlin710]

A no deal will result in Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving the UK and the UK economically screwed.

[@SlothofBangkok]

Go ahead Mcduff. Do it. I dare you too right now. Come one it will be easy.

[@jonsid6628]

A jock telling us we're screwed if Scotland leaves. What are they putting in the whisky up there?

[@coshigould]

I said before and say it again, No deal is better than bad deal. We must protect our land and seas.

[@lucianciobanu6632]

Pardon my English, I'm European, but "leaving" in your dictionary doesn't mean just leaving? What do you mean people didn't vote for no-deal? Why was it so obvious for the entire Europe what you voted for in the referendum, but not for the British?

[@dicksanchez9783]

Can you do a vid on the impact of a "No Deal" economically on Ireland?

[@thegrandmuftiofwakanda]

Of course they can't. This is a pro-EU propaganda channel and that subject is highly inconvenient to these kiddies agenda.

[@m.planck2744]

@@thegrandmuftiofwakanda It's an objective channel.

[@thegrandmuftiofwakanda]

@@m.planck2744 No, it's a pro-EU propaganda channel run by children.

[@aonary5382]

I say let them have their no deal Brexit, those silly Poms can learn the hard way

[@johnegerszeghy9818]

A O'Nary, it will be the EU who suffers most as they have a £90 billion trade surplus with the UK. With the German economy on the rocks due to the coved lockdown they and other EU countries can ill afford to damage that trade, where as the UK will recover by making trade deals around the world. There are a lot of non EU countries willing to replace the EU exporters and grab a slice of the lucrative UK import market.

[@aonary5382]

@@johnegerszeghy9818 where did you read that? The express? Before 2016 the UK was one of the fastest growing economies in Europe, from 2016-2019 it was one of the slowest behind only Spain and Italy. And 2020 has seen you thrown into recession. The EU is the 2nd largest economy on Earth, it dwarfs the UK, you don't stand a chance going up against them, they hold all the aces. You risk being to the EU what Puerto Rico is to the USA. Brexit in the last 4 years has already cost the UK more than all its years of membership fees combined. And what nations are you talking about trading with? Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Japan are all prioritising free trade with the EU and will trade with the UK only once their EU deal is sorted, India will trade but only if you allow freedom of movement for their 1 billion citizens. The USA will trade, but only if you privatise your NHS and sell it to them, China will take advantage of a now much weaker UK that won't have the same economic clout the EU has when negotiating. On top of all that you will have Scottish independence and Irish reunification to deal with. The EU will be fine, the UK on the other hand is a failing state that won't survive Brexit and Covid. Even after Covid Germany is still a much larger economy that the UK and the UK economy has suffered far worse than the German economy, and the UK can't even benefit from the EU recovery plan so it will take you much longer to recover. A lonely England will likely be back in the EU by 2030

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

China’s the second largest economy not the EU onary

[@aonary5382]

@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- it depends how you measure the economy. In nominal terms (which is what most people talk about) it is the 2nd largest ahead of China yet behind the US. In terms of purchasing power parity it is 3rd behind the US and China. So 2nd or 3rd depending.....either way it represents 22% of the global economy.....far ahead of anything the UK can achieve, which is why the EU will weather a no deal storm far better than the UK will

[@budgetjones7719]

@@johnegerszeghy9818 hahaha no way, how many years later and people are still trying to claim this will hurt the EU more than the UK. You my friend, well i mean lets face it you're not my friend, are daft as a brush. A brush covered in thick shit, in the neck of a bottle.

[@aarohalme1020]

I expected this since the end of 2018, as all the UK was doing was moving the time forward without actually changing anything :/

[@Ganjor420]

I really hope the EU wont compromise too much... The UK wanted the change, and the UK needs the traid with the EU way more than the other way around. So: No Deal > Bad deal for the EU! Let them keep the stupid fish... its like 0.5% of GDP.

[@KcKeegan]

Please. The UK is part of many groups. We could start a commonwealth trade tomorrow if we really wanted too.

[@mutleyeng]

you know the uk can trade with the EU ju7st fine without a deal, right?

[@KcKeegan]

@@mutleyeng indeed. WTO

[@stephenconway2468]

Fish is about 0.1 percent of GDP and that is being kind

[@Ganjor420]

@@KcKeegan well i never doubt that the UK will be fine without the EU. I just think if we start of with no Deal we will see how much we need each other and maybe get a fair deal later... that better than a bad deal now just to have one.

[@Christinebanks11]

I miss the new season of brexit . 😆

[@sK3LeTvM1]

It's on Netflix though. ;-)

[@baango]

You Breaks-it, you bought-it!

[@theconqueringram5295]

Brexit is just one massive headache for so many people.

[@hoggarththewisesmeagol8362]

The fat cats and gang masters must hate it 😂

[@mrLebesgueintegral]

Either “No deal” or “Deal in name only” Is inevitable. Either way, the damage will be huge to UK plc

[@richardbarge8077]

@James Berry maybe because the Government's own figures suggest that a no-deal Brexit will lead to a reduction in trade with the EU of about 5% and deals such as the Japanese one would lead to only a 0.07% increase in trade.

[@davosdude7]

@James Berry I know this isn't your usual 'M.O', but perhaps you could try researching the negative effects of Brexit (some of which you can find in videos on this very KZbin channel!) from many studies by large economic bodies which all agree that Brexit will cause GDP to decrease, leaving our position in one of the large economic areas with actual power (EU, USA, Russia, China) so we won't have the global power either economically or politically as we used to as one of the largest/loudest within the EU, and the democratic decision is being made by a conservative dictatorship which doesn't require oversight from the opposition or the people, and we are barreling towards what only a democratic minority want in a No Deal Brexit. Explain that, now there's a good lad.

[@oliverenskat2395]

At 10.50 this video claims that in the event of 'no deal' the UK 'would be further encumbered without trade with the EU' this is incorrect as no deal does not mean the all trade with the EU will stop, just that some goods and services 'may' have tariffs applied to them and so more expensive. It also has completely missed the fact that the ECJ doesn't have a role in any other trade deal with a third country which is why it's a sticking point in the negotiations. All the UK wants is to be treated fairly like any other third country the EU would rather make leaving as difficult as possible to discourage others from doing the same even if it is detrimental to it own EU citizens which they should have a duty of care to protect.

[@MrAapasuo]

Well do you want free trade deal, or full access to single market. EEA members are part of EFTA court, same function than ECJ in this case, but as they arent full members ECJ doesnt apply to them. However UK would never be EEA member as Norway has stood against it so that only leaves ECJ

[@luisrpa123]

(What's left from) The UK in 2025: Hi Europe, let's be friends again! The EU: You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me.