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[@LucForsyth]

Tons of advice here from a KZbin powerhouse - let me know what tips from our special guest resonated the most!

[@johntupper1369]

The fives will become my approach! Just releasing films and not getting caught in analysis paralysis seems important.

[@QZ_AU]

"filmmakers finish films" I've got quite a few passion projects that I didn't finish because the shoot didn't go well and I was afraid to make a crappy film. This quote is definitely a painful one for me

[@billimono4480]

@Luc and @Mark could you share some websites or places where I can go and actually watch, other than blockbuster movies, short films, documentaries, watch filmmaker tell all kinds of stories? I have been watching most if not all of your videos and have the urge to tell stories myself but not very sure where I can watch and learn from other people's work? Thank you very much in advance!

[@tb1235]

I have a few years of filmmaking and editing experience. I do my wife's music videos, but as far as actually doing "professionally paid" work I have not gotten myself to that point but want to. I've been paid for some small jobs here and there but never built the confidence to take the plunge and offer my work professionally. Doc style has always been most intriguing to me.

[@21stcenturyscots]

Why are you wearing hats?

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

Embarrassed to admit I enrolled in AOD and never even logged in. My current day to day career is so time consuming that I shelved it. Chasing dreams after reaching peak adulthood is freaking hard😂

[@LucForsyth]

haha, I hear ya...adulting is the worst.

[@dominichebler5515]

I suggest "Someday is Today" by Matthew Dicks.

[@jahzzii7]

Having you both in the same screen. Man, that's awesome. Thank you guys.

[@B-RollBooks]

Crasftmen and gentlemen both! This is a wonderful collaboration.

[@auroratours6716]

High score 💯: Yesterday I found your channel, watched one clip & subscribed > today I've (so far...) watched 8 of your clips. Now I met Mark and subscribed as well. Tomorrow morning I'm going to buy 4 packs of coffee and lock the door for the entire week. Next sunday my eyes & ears will be bleeding and steam will come out of my nose. But I will have learned so incredibly much from both of you! Nice to meet you both 🤘

[@stevenkralovec]

I liked that 5-5-5 deal (reminiscent of Pizza Hut). 5 minute drive, 5 minute doc, within 5 weeks. Creates some really good boundaries to work within. And the idea of just finishing docs/films is helpful and important. Thank you so much Luc & Mark!

[@robbieloughery]

the collab we never saw coming but always needed.

[@homemade_vancity]

OMG!! My two favourite doc teachers on one screen!!! Super happy to see the two of you together. The Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert for the other side of the camera. Edit: as an aside .. I went to South America right out of high school to do humanitarian work with an org from Toronto, expedition pack and camera bag .. came back to Canada wanting to be the next Eddie Adams.

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks! Have you applied to the Eddie Adam’s workshop?

[@homemade_vancity]

@@LucForsyth would love to but life just got a little more complicated.

[@MiriamFollin]

Kim from AOD sent me here 😁 commenting before watching. No doubt it will be a great video!

[@eduvivan2562]

My god this is basically an open masterclass! Thank you guys, you are legit!!!

[@GospelNerd]

I know it's a good video when it has me genuinely smiling throughout. Such a great unexpected collab from two of my faves. Didn't mind the length at all. It's great to just hear you guys talking freely about your experiences. The biggest things that resonated for me are to keep my first project(s) accessible and reduce the hurdles, especially not trying to make the film with people who don't want to or aren't able to tell their story. That's hard. But as I've been shooting, I'm learning it's so true!

[@LucForsyth]

Awesome, we were worried it was a bit long, bordering on podcast length, but was just too much fun!

[@nsnpixels]

This is so much learning in one video Luc and Mark! Have finally made and uploaded my 2nd video (under two minutes), hopefully better quality and more content soon.

[@tarekalkhattab]

Again, I'm super happy that you kept posting videos despite of only having a few hundred of views on the first ones ! Can't wait to see your next videos !

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks! Yeah the start of KZbin is pretty painful for sure…

[@nicklong7442]

TRUTH BOMBS. It’s been years since I’ve finished my own film. YEARS. And I’ve be n extremely disappointed in myself as of late. I do fantastic work but it’s always as crew (I’m a 1st AC, and Cam Op), but I have this crazy fear to commit to my own thing because I’m scared people will be surprised that I’m not as good as they thought. Because all the work I’m attached to is insanely good, because I work with talented crews… I really needed to hear this and I’ve been making some big changes. Definitely going to finish some sorts this year. Hopefully before summer.

[@thatscottsummerhayes]

Yo! Good stuff! It's motivating and inspiring to see "big" creators still open to collab and meet up with younger channels. I bet a year ago you never would have thought someday you'd be hanging out with Mark in his office and communicating as a peer KZbin creator. Great job!

[@LucForsyth]

Yeah, this KZbin trip has been full of surprises! Though I think it’s probably less hard to connect with others than you might think if they can see you’re taking it seriously and putting thoughtful stuff out into the world. Mark actually made first contact with me a while ago because of a video that came to his attention - What doesn’t work is bombarding them with DMs asking for exposure!

[@thatscottsummerhayes]

@@LucForsyth That felt personal. 😂... Did I do that? I don't think I've ever done that. For sure! I discovered your channel very early on and have been a big fan. Your real world experience and consistency with delivery sound advice has been a huge help for me. Keep it up!

[@norm021557]

You guys narrowed down some of my concepts of doc making into bite sized pieces that gave me a better understanding and more clarity around how I need to start my documentary career...whatever that may look like. I was so surprised when I saw that you and Mark were sitting down together. Just two days ago I thought to myself, "do Luc and Mark know each other?" And, "wouldn't it be cool if they did a video together." And now you have. Thank you.

[@patcavanagh]

Another great video. The act of just posting is something I think is so hard as a young film student. Knowing what you make now is going to be shit can be paralyzing, but was happy this week to break through that fear and post my first video. Excited to keep improving.

[@nickpetroski8033]

I haven't even started this video yet and I already know this will be amazing! Love seeing two of my favorite KZbinrs collab

[@darrinlalla9008]

Yessss!!!! Mark Bone and Luc are my "go to" channels! I didn't realize I've been waiting on this without realizing!

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks darrin, was super fun for me!

[@brettandrewclarke]

This is very refreshing to hear. Not just the nods to Ontario’s late HS comms programs. But also the career shift touch points and just generally getting into the right headspace and underway, rather than creating barriers for oneself. Thank you for sharing guys.

[@fireplaceinacozyroom2064]

Great video of 2 generous icons in documentary, and documentary filmmaking. Two big inspirations of mine when it comes to documentary and/or short movies - Director Akim K.

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks Adam, appreciate that

[@StoryDrivenFilmmaking]

Great interview. I’ve learned so much from Mark as a AOD student. Just found your channel subbed.

[@SuperHappyGiantRobot]

I saw the thumbnail. I saw the blurry guy next to you. Then I was like oh yeah that’s Mark Bone.

[@LucForsyth]

Hahah, the legend!

[@NeonShores]

I was at a Missions conference a few weeks ago and I felt this overwhelming desire to tell the stories of these missionaries and humanitarians...Japan, Thailand, Brazil, Romania, Vanuatu, Mexico...and many more. Not long after I discovered your channel and have been soaking up as much info as possible, and I'm looking to just start shooting small documentary work locally to build up my skillset before I attempt to travel. Anyway, I am terrified but excited and I love all the information from your channel!

[@kallepernu9251]

This was awesome. Thanks very much! Need to watch this 100 times.

[@BryceDocherty]

Amazing!! Mark is great! Got to meet him and Michael at the TIFF Lightbox a few months ago. AoD is amazing!! Love both of your advice. Completing your first film is definitely the hardest part I would say. For me, I have to make a film that I would actually be interested in watching. Almost finished with my first. Pretty pumped! Thanks Luc. Hope you are doing well!

[@chosenideahandle]

Ha! Just watched this now. A bit like Mark I started with stop motion as a kid, I was 3D artist most recently (ad agency AD for a bit before that), now I’m just starting a couple of doc projects while “between jobs”. I’m in TO as well. This was super cool.

[@charliemuchie]

Finally, this is epic. Just saw the AOD logo and two chairs at the 4 seconds mark and i had to type this first!!....Hope to see more of this 😃🔥🔥🔥

[@LucForsyth]

Yeah I figured people would catch on quick! Stay tuned, that’s all I’ll say for now!

[@eerofi]

Good stuff! And greetings from Finland! We don't have mountains here and rarely eat canned fish, but all our films are Finnished! 😂

[@kipikreate]

Soooooo good to see you both!!!! Amazing inspiration from you guys :)

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks, was super fun!

[@charliegardnermedia]

You guys are the best... Some of the best content on KZbin for filmmakers imo. Thank you for being great!

[@HeresMo]

I caught Marks film on the London premiere. It was awesome I just have to say. He's one of the people who has peaked my interest into documentary filmmaking.

[@brignole]

Yeah! as a AOD student and Luc follower, this combo for me is the best ever! saluti dalla Svizzera italiana :)

[@jaydervan]

This was a colab that needed to happen, I love it.

[@LucForsyth]

💯

[@riseauto1]

Stoked to see both of you in this video, I’ve learned a lot from both, hope to see more of this duet

[@DanielEarl]

Can't fool me Luc. I instantly recognized that office and face shape, lol

[@LucForsyth]

Haha, i did my best with the mediocre acting skills I possess….

[@jummi4495]

My absolute dream combo of documentary filmmakers!!!

[@LucForsyth]

Haha, thanks man, it was a ton of fun!

[@jummi4495]

@@LucForsyth awesome! Would like to become a doc filmmaker, too, but three kids and a house to pay… Greetings from Germany

[@markkut]

This collaboration is excellent! Kim from AOD sent me here, and glad I came across this

[@leonardkuper3951]

finally! I am sooooo goood daaaamn impressed to finally see you guys together🙏 finally🙏👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@LucForsyth]

Haha, thanks man!

[@_GhostGarden_]

Being able to recognize Mark Bone from the blurred out thumbnail makes me feel like I may be too terminally online. Great video Luc.

[@LucForsyth]

Hahaha, he’s a popular man!

[@nathananderson8720]

This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my KZbin channel 9 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,707 subs and > 1k hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.

[@daoudconsumption]

Collaboration of the century!

[@LucForsyth]

Bone / Forsyth 2024?

[@BihnDan]

Awesome to learn from two of my favorite documentarians! (And great to hear Mark’s origin story, too.)

[@2win1now]

This is REAL advice. Learn as much as you can, and start applying it ASAP in the real world... As a new doc filmmaker, I am happy gaining experience and confidence while doing personal/smaller projects! So when the time comes for the big story or client, I don't freak out and feel prepared 🫡🌎

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks Duygle!

[@209lapko]

This is such eyes opening, no more excuses 😮

[@Mark-Helmy]

YES!!! fantastic to see you both in the same video. very helpful inspirational content too :)

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks mark!

[@markbone]

This was so fun Luc! Thanks for letting me coming by my office

[@LucForsyth]

Any time. I like what I’ve done with the place!

[@johnclay7644]

some dense info in 36mins, currently waiting for better scripts, and more BTS (documentary opportunities).

[@LucForsyth]

Not sure I understand, sorry!

[@edwardwalkerjr.4359]

Such a much need watch! Thanks for sharing and all of the gems that you both dropped in this talk!

[@LucForsyth]

No problem, was a great chat for me as well

[@Eastlosfern]

It’s hilarious seeing my community college and a local shopping strip mall for the portion where they talking about not having to fly far to tell good stories.

[@LucForsyth]

haha, small world!

[@DimitriAbrazard]

Awesome video guys !

[@justinlaturno]

this was incredible advice coming from my 2 favorite doc filmmakers on this platform!

[@uberelch]

Darnit! I don't have the bandwidth to watch this whole video right now, but I feel compelled to say that I liked your old studio WAY better and look forward to coming back to civilisation and listening to your conversation!

[@LucForsyth]

It’s a long one for sure, but some good stuff in there for later!

[@travisminneapolis]

I didn't know who Mark is until this video ❤

[@JohnCooganPlus]

what an awesome collab!

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks john, enjoyed it myself!

[@gavenevans]

No way!! 😂😂 this video has me HYPE Luc 🔥🔥

[@rickymcc8624]

Big thanks to you both. So much fantastic advice. I had to pause video multiple times to add to my notes. IMO you bounced of each other amplifying the points. An example of synergy where the whole is greater than a sum of the parts!

[@scottstevensonfilms]

So many nuggets of Gold in this video. I learned a ton from you guys during this. Thanks for so much for sharing.

[@KristophTy]

The way Canadian Filmakers/Content Creators support each other is amazing to me. It seems like most channels in this genre are Canadians. You guys seem to really back each other like a community. I h8 to say this but in my experience there seems to be a lack of this in the U.S. Idk Maybe its just me...

[@brianmengini]

Took your advice and started small and local. Yesterday, shot my first mini doc - an artisan who does pottery. 10 mins from the house. #checkingallboxes lol

[@LucForsyth]

Amazing man, great to hear!

[@LivingLife972]

man, this is money!!! so valuable!

[@JholemanFlores]

Oh snap! haven’t watched yet but I know it’ll be fire content 🔥

[@LucForsyth]

I definitely enjoyed it!

[@evilpigskin]

Two of my favorite worlds collide and make one great video, full of inspiration. Great info and pace. More of this! greets from Mexico. PS: Would love to watch those first movies!

[@LucForsyth]

Gracias Alfredo! Algún día, tal vez…

[@angelrafaellanc]

I'm so happy to find your channel. Your content is so affirming and informative! Great collab; they just got a new subscriber!

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks Angel, glad to have you!

[@OREO959]

A lot of really good information too.

[@TheCreator27]

Astonishing video , this help me a lot .

[@ijovy3]

not gonna lie you got me in the beginning!! 😂

[@LucForsyth]

Amazing!

[@speliotis]

Add Subtract or rearrange

[@the_meaning_of_love]

Loooooooooooooooove from Korpo, a small island in Finland actually 😂💚💚💚 Thank you for doing this 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@LucForsyth]

Hi!

[@MatthewWagnerFilms]

Incredible!!! Haha. Love this collab!

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks Matthew!

[@LaAmeria]

Really good advice. Thank you 🙏

[@LucForsyth]

My pleasure!

what a crazy collab love both creators

[@LucForsyth]

And we love you!

[@none-ng4cl]

Thanks Guys!

[@nikeossler]

great video! love hearing about the process

[@J-Dawg-1]

Great video! But why do all videographers record such dark low light videos? I see it all over KZbin.

[@mtmccornack]

I knew by 1983 (9yo) that I could take better photos than the adults weilding cameras around me.... at 49 yo, this hasn't changed and has been a lifetime pursuit and occasionally supports me. 3 years ago, I had maxed out what my dslr could record and was like.... time to pivot, and get serious, also what is an fx3, and shut up and take my money (apparently all my money because i haven't owned a car over $500 bucks since)

[@luissoto9828]

Amazing video! Thanks!

[@LucForsyth]

You’re very welcome Luis!

[@personallycatholic]

Love this. So cool. So helpful!

[@calebgrenier6197]

Didnt see the video yet but wooohoooo!!

[@LucForsyth]

No rush, there’s a ton of info to digest in there!

[@stanru1]

Thank you for the significant bits of advice! Would you please explain whether making a documentary without a live character is possible? I mean, some humans =) Can a city, for example, or something like that, be a hero? And if "yes," could you give some references?

[@LucForsyth]

Anything can be done I think, but it's a challenge. There are movies like Baraka and Samsara that are amazing non-fiction while not really having any story or character, or check out the New Yorker short Nuisance Bear. I even made a 13 minute film with no characters at all during the early days of covid lock downs (vimeo.com/410401410) - but I'll leave it to you to decide if it works or not! So yeah - go for it if that's what your gut is telling you to do. Tougher to sell, tough to do well, but that doesn't mean it's not a good idea.

[@thespitfireboy3088]

GREAT ADVICE

[@fmh357]

Great advice. Thanks.

[@donnybristol]

absolutely great video!

[@danienelphoto]

Cool video. I just used my Helios 44-M 58mm on a music video today. Such a fun lens to use. I also made a video about it... and finished it and put it on my channel!

[@LucForsyth]

Nice one, I've hear great things about those lenses

[@ChestiiPrinAmerica]

What a surprise 😮.

[@LucForsyth]

😉

[@jan-jans143]

about making a documentary. do you pay the characters? what's in it for them?

[@Oluwarviktoh]

I knew it was mark 😂

[@LucForsyth]

Busted!

[@OREO959]

You said Richard Fineman and I thought of the Big Bang Theory lol

[@janfaed6602]

Nice Video. would love to see a discord server for the community.

[@AndreasSippus]

Awesome!!!

[@LucForsyth]

👊🏻

[@RuskinSeabrook]

Kim from AOD sent me here

[@LucForsyth]

Thanks Kim!

[@shelbyeames6553]

what camera do you guys recommend?

[@atlasachaoui3534]

finallyyy

[@LucForsyth]

Haha, Sorry to keep you waiting!

[@kinkykongai]

i really hope the film you couldnt mention was called the Locker Stalker. if not, thats a missed opp.

[@Mingonimuga]

pause, when you mention Kenya am wondering where are you guys, at least when you drop pass a sweep ntatokea😅

[@LucForsyth]

I've been to Kenya a few times, to Nairobi, Mombassa, and a lot of very small towns - but I'm not sure where Mark is talking about!

[@Mingonimuga]

Probably in bogoria, that's in central Kenya. Next time you drop in Kenya, hit me up I'll be glad to help wherever i can.

[@mychalsimmons4177]

Lol I am just starting out😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@eleventhvision]

Very awesome look into documentary filmmaking! I also just made a fun skit for beginners who are interested in filmmaking - hope you guys can have a look:)

[@LucForsyth]

Nice one, thanks!

[@KevDreck]

Becoming a filmmaker: step 1 buy a basecap

[@LucForsyth]

And only wear black…

[@davidschwan]

wow hahahaha

[@MarcusAlexandr_]

Weird vibe between u tooo😅 mark works alone to much. Needs to learn how to be a guest.

[@Jinaci1732]

It's awkward how Mark is also supposed to be talking to you, but he is so into talking to the camera