No Hitting Messmer is Easier Than You Think

well this turned into me just talking over gameplay more than anything. hopefully it still helps lol
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[@hazeyI]

downfall needs to be studied bro got 0 views in 3 minutes

[@blackmoon2128]

The difference in quality between Messmer and Radahn is abysmal. Messmer is such an enjoyable fight all-in-all, even when you get beaten by him is kind of satisfactory. A very high point of the dlc indeed. And well done indeed, already mastering it like this is awesome, very nice watch.

[@Sargatas]

Messmer and Bayle are the best fromsoft small and big bosses respectively.

[@Kenji-117]

Bayle is the best dragon fight iof all souls games. Midir in DS3 was so abysmally bad because his onyl weak spit was his head and almost impossible to hit because he held it too high most of the time

[@Sargatas]

@@Kenji-117 Midir is weak af. He has very little and easy-dodgable moveset and accuracy of a drunk truck driver. I fought him a dozen times, I still don't know how much damage his laser does😅 And Placidusax flies and teleports way too much. Bayle exceeds both by a large margin.

[@user-bi1fw8sd1x]

@@Kenji-117Midir is quite easy lol. You have to stay in front of him and lock off.

[@Goofzillers]

@@Kenji-117 But he totally didn't, Midir would leave it down low for generous periods after just about every combo / move of his LOL

[@DRNOval]

I never thought I would be one of the ppl hoping for nerfs but it's sad how the radahn fight honestly feels rly satisfying to learn but then you just have one attack that is basically impossible

[@TheAzozoi]

I wish they make Miquella's hair more transparent or something. There are so many instances where I got hit by attacks that I usually always dodge because Miquella's hair was hiding radahn's telegraphs.

[@DRNOval]

@@TheAzozoi I've seen a lot of ppl saying this but for me it was never rly an issue

[@Volsraphel]

​@@DRNOval The weird obscurity happens equally on phase 1 in my opinion I was using the deflect tear to deal with the first swing of that attack but since he can just track you 180 degrees I couldn't even see it coming half the time because his own body was in the way

[@SM-cq1mm]

​@@Volsraphelyeah, one time I dodged both the double swings because of my lucky positioning and was directly behind him after the first dodge, thought I was safe to heal since I was low.... Yeah he does a 180 to do the x slash and I die

[@metalkid588]

if they just remove that 1 attack from radahn or change it, the fights instantly 10x better

[@zacharyhoekstra9599]

absolutely agree. Just make it a BIT slower and its way better

[@hectorwilson663]

Just needs a change, I dont think it would be too hard without it. Just increase dodge window so you can dodge first two with one roll

[@frenchvanilla3821]

@@hectorwilson663is the one where swings both his swords together horizontally? bc that move always catches you rolling

[@darkmatter9643]

@@frenchvanilla3821dodge into the swords and it won’t clip you

[@valor4531]

That and move the camera just a tiny bit back. The light beams aren't that bad besides being terrible for visual clarity.

[@Serjuh]

If Radahn gets nerfed I'll implode

[@alorapirample1671]

They need to fix him n bayle gank as you walk the gate other then that I agree

[@messmersspear]

I think hes way to easy they need to buff his health

[@Kenji-117]

Bro i finished the game but next time just say "final boss" instead of a bosses name. some people didnt finish it yet :(

[@Serjuh]

@@Kenji-117 I mean yous right but its already mentioned in the video itself so its joever regardless

[@darkmatter9643]

The only thing I would change in the radahn fight is slightly reducing the amount of light beams on attacks, tbh it’s my second favourite boss in the dlc

[@thunk6681]

The radahn double swing is the bane of every single attempt i have put in so far. The only times i have dodged it, is when he was just straight up not looking at me when he did it.

[@omnom277]

Scott Jund even just revealed that bullshit attack used to be even worse where if you got tagged by that first hit you get full combo-ed instead of being able to roll out of the second and cross slash lol

[@Stoneblazer]

Found you through the good 'ole KZbin algorithm. Here's hoping you blow up and get all the vews you deserve!

[@yamatoryuumaki5222]

crazy how circle strafing is a reliable dodging strat in From games since the original Demon's souls. Still works perfectly in Elden Ring

[@ByReapezz]

Nice guide bro, what level are u in elden ring ?

[@unleashedbread6146]

thanks for the guide, i can’t find anybody else on youtube that explains this stuff so clearly with video examples.

[@nefarious8278]

That radahn attack requires convenient perfect position which means that dodging into his right legs means you just avoid the 2nd slash, but if you’re too close his frame actually pushes you back into the attack💀💀💀💀💀💀💀, anywhere but this one sort of mid range position on his left side means you are getting clipped. The thing is, this attack is actually a reactionary attack so when you react late you get clipped by the first attack but even stranger is if you react late early( if you get what I mean) then the 2nd attack roll catches you and in the 2nd phase coupled the the light rays this is actually a true combo one shot because of the X follow up into light rays, a literal stun lock. But if you react Late ‘Late’ then you end up avoiding the 2nd slash for some reason. If you are so unlucky that he does this after you’ve tried to punish one of his 2 opening in the entire fight you get caught in the animation of the attack, which means you have to play ultra passive against him. This all in tandem with radahn constantly breaking combat with you means that he is nigh impossible to stance break him unless you are using a cragblade set up with a weapon that has access to a high poise dmg move. I actually think this attack is more egregious than waterfowl on Elden ring release. Sry for the rant on radahn on a messmer vid but the attack was mentioned so I had to rant.

[@thepainphantom]

You are correct. I noticed this as well when I was fighting Radagon and got pretty frustrated by his relentless golden attacks. At one time I was like, "fk it, Ima just hit him with a dagger and keep circling around him." And it worked, it's crazy man. This game will punish you IF YOU PANIC. Another thing I found that light roll also work best on most PvE bosses and strong enemies. I will be impressed if there are players posting hitless boss fights but with med and heavy load, doing only rolling or parry run. Now that's skills and luck. Light roll is OP.

[@sparklepawz1185]

The Radahn fight is actually perfect because after beating him I went to NG+2 and have yet to encounter anything nearly as difficult.

[@MilkJugA_]

phase 2 was mostly easier than phase 1 for me, because in phase 1 he obscures a lot of his animations with fire, and his attacks look pretty similar im addition

[@thefraser5131]

I cant wait for radahn to get nerfed and for people to start bragging about how they beat pre patch radahn again. We've come full circle.

[@broomybroomybroomy]

And it's even a myth that he was "nerfed," they just changed hitboxes

[@andreybelyshev5093]

With the multi snake attack you could just run away and the first 2 are garunteed to miss, then the 3rd just run to the left then dodge the final

[@jedd2387]

really good at the game and you're funny, you should definitely blow up if you keep making videos bro

[@McDudes]

lol good guide just circle straif and dodge, got it👍

[@lndex_1440]

Lmao that was your clip! I saw that and wished I had taken more time to practice Mesmer before I have to go back through on ng+. His fight was so fun, like a dance, and I want to learn him as my first no hit boss.

[@tariqmohmmed7396]

I've been learning how to no hit bosses and I got malenia and radagon down, nearly radahn using your guide and im going to learn messmer second phase with this, thanks man

[@JafferKarim-b1w]

Luv u

[@ВладимирПичужкин-ж9ъ]

Bro u are fire. The jokes, skill, transitions. pls do more videos) and wish u good luck on youtube

[@SatchelStreams]

Came by to support the channel! Hope all is well

[@buggo_boi]

Regarding the final boss attack mentioned in the beginning of the video: The double slash into cross slash can only be avoided by using the deflect hardtear to perfectly block the first swipe and then you can either perfect block or dodge the subsequent slash into cross slash. That being said, the first swing attack animation is like, half a second so it's brutally tough regardless.

[@mrschnimy9322]

Came here to see some "fancy pants bullshit" and was rewarded with a banger boss break down, thanks for the vid! XD Hope to see more stuff from you on youtube mate.

[@saphire_yxz]

I saw someone doing back hop into regular roll and thats how you dodge that attack

[@TheFarslayer]

First tried messmer with he perfume build syrobe made. He wasn’t too bad

[@RetroBean]

the only way to dodge is to parry with inhuman reaction time 😭

[@Iudex160]

Radhan double swipe is more bullshit than waterfowl imo

[@dvdivine1962]

Would love to see a magic/incant no hit, though you probably wont get to use most of the stuff.

[@ETheeb]

If you rant I rant.. Block then Dodge Then Dodge

[@Raspstrike]

@1:50 i think its made this way to rollcatch you while you are locked on... :D

[@Vincent-39]

I couldn't play in unlocked to save my life, lmao

[@SoulOfDerp]

Why do people need to unlock to circle?

[@ooloh]

all locked movement is relative to the boss. when the boss is as close as they are for this strafe, its easy for your movement to get messed with as a result. unlocking just avoids this and makes it more consistent

[@SoulOfDerp]

@@ooloh Btw any tips on getting better in this fight? He sees to have 3 timing start ups into 3 timing mix ups into 3 timing ender then some combos have a 4th and 5th hit. 2nd phase snakes is however much easier.

[@ooloh]

@@SoulOfDerp some fights, like rellana, have "rng combos", where one attack may lead into multiple different attacks and you have no way of predicting the next attack. BUT messmer is not like this, it is simply a matter of memorisation and recognition. so im not entirely sure what you mean, but my best advice will always be to practice my bro

[@interloper9589]

I no hit him in a perfect fight before i died with Messmer having 2 pixels of health left. Ended up beating him with 2 hits taken. Shits hard man...

[@llytxn]

what is your build and level?

[@solum_]

3:12 AND THIS WHO IS GONNA GO RIGHT?

[@BigOnionOng]

Yo should do a rellana no hit guide I’ve been looking and just can’t find one 🙏

[@ooloh]

just put one up 🙏

[@andrenogueira4080]

to dodge radahns double swipe you have to KNOW he is gonna do it, that's the hard part, but you can do it, the animation is very specific, now how to dodge it: you will basicall playwith your position, if the boss is on your left, you'll wanna dodge sharp to the right diagonal, and if the boss is on your right, you'll wanna dodge sharp to the left diagonal, basically you will endup almost behind him and the second attack won't hit you, then just dodge the third ,I actually got this right a lot of times on my practice, but it's kinda hardd to understand when he'll do the attack

[@earlypensionist]

im sry man i wanted to ask wich weapon you are using in the vid you posted where you kill mesmer

[@ooloh]

great katana 🤝

[@unbreakableroad9294]

ok so that spear dig attack can you strafe it on med equipment? I’ve tried without luck, also his circle sweep is easily strafed as the hit box is only right in front of him

[@ooloh]

yeah i was doing it on med load when i had great katana on in the vid. its just a matter of practice

[@unbreakableroad9294]

@@ooloh gotcha thx, I’m glad because using positioning and strafing as much as possible is how I try to play these games :D

[@JettyLittle]

What’s your build

[@saltyfish4878]

goat🙏

[@Sargatas]

When I fought Messmer he seemed strong but 100% fair. Not a single bullshit or "what the hell I'm even supposed to do here" move. I knew how to counter every move after 2-3 times of seeing it. Same shit for Rellana. Bayle was the best dragon fight in all fromsoft history and an owner of my new favorite ER soundtrack. Radahn was straight up bullshit, learning him was not fun at all and my eyes were hurting so much during this fight.

[@abreu7756]

thx bro

[@samthepigman4069]

Messmer was really underwhelming for me tbh. It felt like just another notmyturn boss and 2nd phase was just too easy compared to 1st phase

[@Oorth212]

Can you beat the dlc torch only

[@ooloh]

that may be pushing the limits when we 4 days in

[@Oorth212]

@@oolohKeep it in mind…. also can you make a rellana no hit guide mate ive beat her already but i feel bad getting shat on and ending the fight with a sliver of health and no health flasks. I need your guidance for the future mate

[@ooloh]

@@Oorth212 rellana is def on the list