No Jumper - Kevin Samuels Started this Conversation (Episode 60)

[@dizruptivemindz]

The Kevin Samuels statement can be stricken from the record, your honor. Only watching clips and snippets is not enough to form a logical conclusion. That's hearsay. Thank you your Honor

[@suave_d]

I agree. Anything that she said about Kevin Samuels after that statement should be deemed null and void.

[@dwaynerhodes6423]

FACTZ BIG FACTZ!!!!!!!!!!!1

[@collinsmugodo380]

I'm a man and I agree with a lot of what KS had to say...but I believe his tone was at times was very counterproductive and needlessly condescending. I think the same about fresh and fit who I'm personally more familiar with and whose content I've consumed more of than KS. nobody male or female likes to be talked down to by anyone even if the person talking down to them is making a good point. The delivery isn't as important as the message sure...but it's not far behind in my opinion.

[@tommytee6290]

so incredibly well done Obi...i think YOU are the guy to carry on the KS legacy of having these discussions...you're almost clinical with your approach...your patience and "soft skills" are ABSOLUTLEY unmatched in this space...you're the guy to have these conversations where "tone" can't be their focal point...your ability to disarm with the right framing is sublime...this woman at least meets the physical requirements

[@thinkoutful]

I agree ☝🏽

[@lightbrightconnect]

Id have to agree. This is hard as hell to do in real time.

[@Jwcreacts]

u said it best

[@austintaylor8281]

Yes agreed

[@Ceeboyforlife]

strong claim

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

That was exhausting. The female plan is ALWAYS create ambiguity, redirect the target, absolve responsibility. It starts w not letting things get ambiguous. Keep up the work

[@GB2139]

That’s what I said: my brain 🧠 hurts, I can’t follow these women talking! HELP !😨🤣🤣🤣🤣👊🏽👊🏽

[@kerrye83]

Man I thought I was the only one who saw this amongst these others making comments... She is a L.

[@dgo9121]

Women who play mental gymnastics are a huge red flag

[@Dontellnobodi]

So thank you for keeping the conversation going. These ladies don't know it, but they validate his words in the grave. RIP Kevin 🙏 🕊

[@phenomenal-xv4ey]

Some things I noticed: - She makes a good point that people underestimate the importance of a woman taking care of herself and being her own peace - She makes another good point that when someone is happy it doesn't matter if you get cut off in traffic or you get cussed out But if delivery is what upsets the woman then she is not at peace and she is not happy. The other thing is money and time is not necessarily sacred to a man. We feel we can make more money and a date here or there is not that big a deal. Marrying a woman and spending our lives with her is sacred. Men and women really do think differently. We think your bodies are sacred but to women they are not. Women use their bodies to get what they want.

[@Tone__Wes]

yeah a man that makes $300,000 a year and spending a few grand throughout a year on a jump off isn't a big deal. That's not even grocery money for the year. If he marries her and invest more than it says different.

[@Turshin]

I don't agree with the first part of your comment. People can definitely affect your happiness. Especially when you have to interact with them on a daily basis. Example you're standing in line for coffee and a dude and his hommies see one of their friends that further ahead in the the line than you. So they all jump line to his position. If you leave, your happiness has been affected. If you say something to them, your happiness has been affected and maybe even your well being. If you stay and just accept it, (which most men wont), then your happiness has not been affected...just your pride.

[@jojowildstar7773]

@@Turshin too be completely honest with you that situation probably differs from man to man cause me personally I wouldn’t give a fuck unless I’m damn near close to getting whatever but if im in the middle or end then so what especially if they’re kids no grown ass men skipping lines

[@Turshin]

@@jojowildstar7773 i wasnt talking about any kids. grown ass men skip lines that are assholes. Happens lots of time because some ppl live by finessing, scamming, and getting over on others. Some ppl.

[@suave_d]

Any time that a woman says she doesn't like what someone says (even if there is truth in it) because of the "delivery," she's a no-go for me. I will continue to maintain that the delivery is really not the issue -- it's the fact that he held a mirror to their faces. You're a grown woman -- if you can't graciously accept constructive criticism, then you deserve to be alone. Kevin Samuels' tone wasn't bad with every woman -- it was mainly with the women who called into his show with an ulterior motive to be combative and to prove him wrong instead of having a spirit of listening and learning something valuable. She's cute, but I still wouldn't want to deal with her -- still detecting modern women vibes.

[@MrBenji1059]

YOU SMART

[@tiajones7036]

@suaved ••• You Are Opposed To Modern Women Vibes , What Exactly Is That .......??? 🤔🤔🤔🔎🔎🔎

[@tiajones7036]

@suaved ••• ARE YOU ATTRACTED TO THE 60's Woman Vibe ......??? 🤔🤔🤔👁👁👁

[@silentlamont]

And remember this is what you picked up with everything she's trying to hide by not saying.

[@MJ-hg1mk]

Way too much masculine energy for starters. Self delusional to the point of nuttiness.

[@davidlouis1298]

She lost me when she said men have podcast now. What do she want me to do “shut up and dribble”.

[@Jaslath]

I was hoping the host was going to bring up the fact that women have had a voice in the mainstream media for decades while men have not.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Yep, and bring her a bag.

[@t.713.]

I wonder if they're aware that along with the mainstream media, women have been starting podcast as well. I.e. B. Simone.

[@U4ia28]

“Who’s to say what anyone qualifies for?” This is where she lost me and showed her hand and how part of her is still on code. This response is clearly only in defense of women. It’s clear by the concessions and exceptions she tried to play off as the rule for Women. Women are quick to tell men that if they’re broke we don’t deserve any woman period. Yet it’s impossible to say that it’s possible for women to only qualify for a certain level of man? Make it make sense.

[@aaronjohnson6622]

She started off hot then went on a cold streak. She's got traces of the "I'm better than men" media programming within. Not enough to write her off. A good man will straighten that stuff out. She's still bueno

[@gibsonlr1]

The market always tell you who you qualify for. Women always over inflate their value which is the disconnect between men and women.

[@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13]

They want to live in the delusion. Let them live there. They do not want to be brought out of that delusion, so you’re wasting your time trying to convince them otherwise.

[@pinkplayspkmn5011]

Yep

[@davidsimmons4731]

Exactly. What that stems from is the fact that women want the right of refusal. For many of them, it's insulting to them to have to measure up to what men want because men are supposed to accept anything. The fact that men require anything and can refuse them is an affront to them.

[@marksalisbury6835]

I'm So Tired Of Hearing About The Godfather Delivery 😒 😪!! He Is Speaking To Woman Like A Grown Ass MAN, Not Their GIRLFRIENDS!!!

[@keptbygrace6221]

I am a woman and I totally agree. He speaks just like my dad and uncles.

[@Cahluvca]

Shararazad Ali delivery wasn't liked either. They aren't about changing because of the separate entity mindset

[@mega1979340]

That delivery statement doesn’t hold weight if you never watched a whole show. When Monique told them to take off their bonnets like a loving mother. They want to burn her like she was one of the witches of the Salem inquiries. Shahrazad Ali spoke to these women 30 years ago they ridiculed that woman. So let’s stop it. People especially modern day women don’t wanna be told nothing especially if it goes against their emotions unless it pondering to their emotions. People don’t understand the black community is in a crisis all stats states this. All the movements and African pride don’t shit if we don’t have a community. That starts with the black family.

[@kenjenferguson3621]

I listen to these videos to pass the time through out my day. This one struck a cord… In my past I got of prison and ironically dated several nurses. I’m now a developer with a MBA and wealthier than most men that they’ll ever date. My point “cultivate and believe in a human and you might be surprised & before anyone goes HAM, no this isn’t an absolutism! 🙏🏽

[@PermanentHigh]

You were in prison for how long and for what?

[@joshuamaxie7873]

This is a gorgeous woman. However she totally makes contradicting statements. When she states who has the criteria of what you qualify for, then immediately rejects a man that she doesn’t meet her criteria. Your outcomes dictates what you qualify for. She understands the rules and how they are created, but refuses it’s implementation.

[@dragonfly4494]

Where at?

[@stevenharris4406]

Facts!!!! What I think men don’t see is that emotion based rations make for a less substantial base for reality based decisions. Allowing for a individual to say one thing and display actions completely contrary to stated beliefs.

[@joshuamaxie7873]

@@dragonfly4494 what do you mean where??

[@dragonfly4494]

@@joshuamaxie7873 You describe her as gorgeous. Where do you see that?

[@MJ-hg1mk]

Eye of the beholder, bro. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@heruapocalypse2021]

She doesn't care for Him.Because She now Feels what it's like to truly be Scrutinized like how a Black Man would be.

[@Demsky83]

Everyone who said they don't like his content follows that up with an admission to not actually watching the comments and oy seeing the clips.

[@UNR3ALshadyness]

Every time these convos happen … when the girl laughs …. They know the real answer …

[@JohnSmith-ez7sx]

If there was a way I could double like this off the jump I would do it! Excellent work Brother!

[@elproco24]

Oh god women tell me what we qualify for but we cant tell them what they qualify for

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

Yes because we are animals and sub human to her. We are appliances she has a right to.

[@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13]

Leave her in her delusions. Women love to live in their delusions. They do no want to be brought out of it.

[@sbmars7137]

Once the discussion on "qualifying" started, it became clear from her body language that she was fighting the truth.Like a thousand women, she doesn't want to accept that her options are not infinite

[@blaquejaque9702]

AND THAT GORGEOUS SMILE WHEN SHE KNOWS SHE GETS IT, BUT WHAT SHE GETS GOES AGAINST THE SISTER CODE

[@jermaineeghan1675]

She said, "I think there are times when he says something that makes sense." The irony.

[@TruthFLA]

Beautifully shot. high quality content. Love it

[@dweazy_wade6578]

I refuse to write the essay length response I had started to. With that being said, I’m just here to show support for the work being done.

[@vincenzomauricio7090]

He should've asked the 'qualify for' question in regards to men first to see her say unequivocally say yes there's a disconnect between what men want and what they qualify for. Then he should've asked about women to see her add a lot of subjectivity into her answer

[@2011troya]

The interdependence thing is a real game changer. You look after yourself for me and i look after myself for you .... magic happens when those things align

[@jsworld1446]

@11:05 as brother Kevin Samuels stated gentlemen laughter is a tell. On one hand she say he talked bs and pushed a larger divide then says he spoke for men and we haven't been heard so we identify we him. So what she was really saying is she didn't like that he was waking men up.

[@suave_d]

That's really what it boils down to.

[@LeMan8o4]

If tone is such an issue… why don’t Black Women check each other on the tone to which they speak of Black Men on these platforms? I will forever be a fan of Kevin Samuels for carving out a space for these conversations. Black men have been waiting for a chance to be heard.

[@annaceder8981]

When will you stop killing eachother?

[@LeMan8o4]

@@annaceder8981 Pardon? What are you talking about?

[@annaceder8981]

@@LeMan8o4 As so called "leaders" you are so concerned about black women's attitude but do nothing about the status of the black community (the gangs and killing of eachother). And you don't care that every man on the planet who isn't black own your culture.

[@daemonblackfyre8376]

@@LeMan8o4 She wants the pookies and ray-rays to pay attention to her, but unfortunately she is too ugly to grab their attention for more than a moment. That's why she's in this space, hollering about guys none of us know or care about.

[@rbaraka1]

I love her introspection and open mindedness! Great video

[@rightsidetv4235]

With all due respect and honesty when I hear her talk all I hear is “Selfishness”

[@TayonR]

its amazing how much she disagrees with Kevin Samuels yet doesn't

[@montste8257]

WNTT, keep giving it to them, these valid points and questions have their brains smoking on overload, the conversation must continue

[@jarius0301]

I'm amazed she doesn't realize she actually agrees with him for the most part. Mr. Samuels was not a female, so his delivery wouldn't be from a female point of view.

[@siajabu]

That Obi chuckle though!!!! After she said "every man is a podcaster and every man has something to say, so go for it"

[@shannonwilliams7743]

Outstanding talk.

[@thelastdragon6121]

A lot of grandmother’s that I know speak to people like KS does, ijs

[@keptbygrace6221]

This generation is just soft. My grandmother was quick to tell my cousin "You look like a hussy. Go change clothes." 😆

[@Demi-Tayo]

When she said "every man is a podcaster and every man has something to say, so go for it", that's the most disrespectful and undermining thing to say. She asked “Who’s to say what anyone qualifies for?”. You are a reflection of what you attract (qualify for), not more (not the norms "if" it happens), not less.

[@freshestinclass763]

They undermine and call childish. everything men find Solace in. That is of course until monetization happens. After that point they run in and attempt a hostile karen esque take over....The chatter from that point on out are females who don't know the value of nothing.

[@Issey_B_Devo]

KS was so helpful in framing women of her ilk and kind. Not mean not unpleasant not combative not too disagreeable just MODERN. Modern in mindset thought process ideology and reflexive response and clearly a staunch defender of “The Almighty Sisterhood Girl Code.” Here’s what’s problematic imho such defense of said code can/will lead to what men find most attractive and interesting about her unimportant and inconsequential over time and frequent interaction. “Self Awareness Is Sexy.” KS_

[@jamalhaleemtucker8425]

I believe she is mean, and possibly unpleasant to be around if you’re around her long enough, I see it in her demeanor, she just has a way of hiding it or articulating it with sarcasm.

[@andrewmack3670]

Facts. She’s hiding here true self. You can tell towards the end of the video

[@Issey_B_Devo]

@@jamalhaleemtucker8425 Yes indeed. She’s on her absolute best behavior here yet you can see the cracks in the mirror.

[@Issey_B_Devo]

@@andrewmack3670 Agreed! She’s putting on her best face. Dealing with her on a daily basis would take some years off your life for sure.

[@jamalhaleemtucker8425]

@@Issey_B_Devo Exactly! S he e ain’t fooling nobody😂

[@People-Business-And-Ideas]

FANTASTIC CONTENT, AS PER USUAL!

[@j4ASM]

She is absolutely stunning!!! Beautiful, natural, elegant, feminine, and well spoken. Definitely rare nowadays.

[@mr_willwhite8465]

The moment she essentially said I've never listened to full KS episodes, only clips, a HARD STOP can be done. A disclaimer should pop up saying "the next set of stmts have no fair/balanced/in good faith" sentiment in it. 100% of women who don't care for KS content all share the same thing, never listened in full.....still good convo overall tho

[@freshestinclass763]

A correlation could be made that those types don't listen at all. To their detriment of course. Their problem.

[@2011troya]

I really love how he lets them talk and get it all out for the world to see

[@dizruptivemindz]

Even as patient as you are, she still ain't getting it. I hope she understands that as this world moves forward, especially in the USA, a patient man will be an anomaly.

[@dontrebiggins4052]

4:25. Amen!

[@NateThaDon]

That “qualify for” question is the shit that would drive KS and most men crazy. He said in one video and women will say “First we have to look up what the definition of ‘Is’ is?” 😂 All that splitting hairs ma’am you know WTH qualifies us for each other!! A dude working at subway cannot pull the baddest women!! “Well I’ve seen millionaires with ducks” yea but it’s not the norm. I swear they all on code with the same exact answers. I do agree with her end statements about leaving these women completely alone and that will drive them to fix themselves to our liking, but it’s so hard because somebody somewhere gone hit em still and they mindset hard to change if they keep getting the bare minimum results 🍆 and fun.

[@IAMDPP]

FACTZ

[@rosenoir4865]

Then stop hoping for their "punishment" and reward the ones on track. It's just that simple. They crave attention. Stop giving them YOUR attention and leave them to the men that pick them.

[@karlditz8631]

She admitted to your point 1000 times without knowing it.

[@NightKnight25]

Worth hearing.

[@jackspades1968]

"Every black man has a podcast" he couldn't help but laugh

[@quotivation47]

She is a gem!

[@MJ-hg1mk]

This chick! 🤯🤯🤯 Dude proved his skills with her.

[@isaiahroddie6027]

Great convo with a great guest bro…. Geeeez!

[@thestandardrlc]

She believes that if a woman can maintain her own happiness when a man can't do it, then it'll do men some good...but she knows that some of our motivation is being the one that makes her happy...

[@lobecosc]

Great show. She was interesting to listen to. All I'm going to say is that most of the comments below about her are right.

[@captaineveryman6589]

Tell me, why do wives feel no responsibility to make husbands happy?

[@NNight-uh3kt]

I like how the woman said "who's to say who qualifies". Women are QUICK to tell a man he doesn't qualify out in the real world.

[@aljo2552]

Yo. That basketball reference went completely over her head. Hopefully she understands later that it was a compliment. Her reaction was kinda funny.

[@renatafnedab3003]

My dad was a basketball coach so I do get that reference. It makes sense.💯🔉. I as a woman have to agree 💯

[@Destro237]

"Who's determines what anyone's qualified for?" 10 minutes later: describes a situation where a man out of jail tries to shoot his shot at a nurse insinuating he's put of his league. L.O.L

[@dwaynejgriffith]

Right, shes knows the answer but the sister hood is strong.

[@tonileolion9702]

Shoot now days it’s possible.. love and lockup proves it. My gf is a nurse and pics the worst men ever bums tbh … book smart but dumb with certain life choices

[@terencerice2018]

Calling women out on their BS is a new phenomenon

[@DarkDemon259]

"Who's to say what anyone qualifies for?" How about the man in question who would deciding whether or not he should marry the woman? Ask a woman who determines which man is qualified for her and her answer will 100% be herself and no one else. While that one man in question gets the final say, men in general don't pretend to be completely unique snowflakes from every other man. Men have a general understanding of how most men operate and we acknowledge that we fit under some umbrella of category and we acknowledge that there's a hierarchy of attractiveness to women. So when men say a woman who is masculine, obese, unattractive, combative, etc. is unqualified for the top 10% men, most men across the board would agree that the woman is delusional for thinking that she is. Almost every average woman in an ocean of average women believes she is the golden goose and refuse to acknowledge that there are categories and hierarchies in the dating market. Most men understand where they fit in on the hierarchy and if they don't, they'll figure it out soon enough because most women will not hesitate to tell a man he isn't worthy of her. Women rate and rank men all day but whether they like it or not, men rate women too and the consensus is that average women who think they aren't, are delusional.

[@jaybadger8394]

Great Convo

[@RidewithDEEbesttransportation]

This is the reason i ordered my k.s shirt online,just to see the distain in the faces of women when i wear it.. Hope i dont gt jumped by them..lol. Its funny how they think of the late brother though,he's helped alot of people men and women,so it baffles me when i hear these opinions from clip watchers R.I.P KS

[@werringertonney7489]

Oh brother! How childish LOL. Women don’t care, but nice gesture…I guess…

[@RidewithDEEbesttransportation]

@@werringertonney7489 well of course it was a joke geesh🤦🏾‍♂️, I got this shirt becasue i really admired what he did,and the broad conversation he started and the millions of people he helped out weekly.. So im honoring him like we do many other people that passes away to soon, on a shirt🤷🏾‍♂️

[@christopherwalken5983]

You know that crowd doesn't respect personal space or private property, so be careful!

[@blaquejaque9702]

20:42 that's BEAUTIFUL 😍 how she had the FEMININITY for a soft letdown, even when the men are at fault for the rejection

[@dmvnative6102]

I like her...good points...intelligent

[@karlditz8631]

You got her good.

[@SemperCogitas]

What is the point of trying to tell black women what black men want/ look for in relationships if they are just going to dismiss and be little us for doing so? Everyone wants black love but very few love the work it takes to get it.

[@Cahluvca]

The discussion of why they are following another woman's movement is yet to be discussed. This wave isn't about family and being a helpmate its about selfishness/competition

[@TwannDonn]

This is probably my favorite interview. 🔥

[@jubei187]

Men pay attention - if a woman doesn't know the difference between things that attract a man vs things that will make a man want to wife her, leave her alone. Sex money and gifts are things men do because a man's nature is actually to be generous. If she cannot separate a man's generosity vs the standards to be a wife, leave.

[@asaisrael1071]

Who determines what a person qualifies for? The person. These people will have had children by men they turn around and say they can’t respect. The person who’s seed you carried determines what you qualify for. I think that makes sense. Most people get into this bag of criteria that they are looking for not ever putting thought towards the man that meet that criteria will have his own list. These concepts are too simple for it not to make sense. The fathers have to start back marrying their daughters off. The men have to be in this process.

[@dontrebiggins4052]

5:45 DAMN! She’s on fire! Transactional relationship. I’d rather be the beneficiary of your happiness than the source. And vice versa

[@robertdarby77]

This is my favorite Interviewee. 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@youmeanblackamericanculture]

Timestamp:24:16 is the majority of why communication breaks down. The possibility, and the probability way of seeing the world come together. It's actually beautiful when you think about it in a yin and yang way. Men are nature women are nurture. As men we aren't confused on this however society and higher education has muddied the beautiful simplicity of the fact. Watching these programs the underlying issue becomes more and more clear I think I'm going to show my eldest married relatives these videos and record the reactions. I think they will provide some insight as well. Let me know if that's cool?

[@LRich44]

That first five minutes she was talking that shit! As a man i must admit that I’m more vulnerable with mentally fortified people than i would be with someone that has shown me mental weakness.

[@CoreyJ0E]

Hey Bro, I'm glad to see your subs going up, I enjoy the convo very necessary

[@wnttalk]

I appreciate that

[@elproco24]

Interdependence is a great thing. Its perfect for today's world. However independent women still want to be financially dependent and emotionally independent. Look pay half the bills lady's and your opinion MAY matter but if he pays you will need to follow his program. and I say because if your man doesn't have the last say he will not be happy

[@lookatme808]

25:00 Thank you

[@ShootingWithEJ]

You can “feel,” however you want but doesn’t make it fact. I kinda wish the interviewer would refrain from asking how you feel and rather what do you think, believe, or know. I think it forces them to actually think before they respond.

[@antstrumentalz]

If majority of women had this woman's ability to really listen & respond without being selfish. We'd all get along alot better. You can tell this woman has a beautiful mind. Her being physically pretty is just the icing on the cake.

[@nickmosley8822]

The drug addiction jail guy shot his shot KNOWING that this is probably not going to work. Women bees SHOCKED they don't get the results they want.

[@keithbennett4004]

Even though I don’t agree with everything this young lady says her energy is just beautiful! I think she’s gonna make someone a very happy man!

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

For a day. The prroblem is she will not be a wife for anyone.

[@TheRealHouseInvestor]

She is proof that women believe sexual attention is not relationship attention.

[@kumasifitts2248]

It really bothers me when women have these long winded opinions but barely researched the topic or listened to the entire video. How can you feel so passionately about something you barely know?

[@BTLOY]

Create a safe space for comfort and communication flows

[@anthonybaker7918]

Accountability is cryptonite to the modern women K.S.

[@RodneyE.9491]

WNTT, that last minute or two I learned something. I learned why my, "You are Ms Right Now" talk fell on deaf ears in the past.

[@saidqotb7807]

Like mister Samuel said.. you can't make this shit up! Rest in peace 🙏

[@LC-wz9kb]

I really wish she listened to at least a weeks worth of KS’ content. Clips def don’t do him justice. His videos were the pillar to literally transforming my relationship with my mom! Specifically, his content on the sister daughter relationships was so validating and healing for the women. His content is gold! Everyone’s qualifies based on a metric. Even our fathers have qualifying metrics for our future spouses. If the man is the one marrying, how he qualifies you is what determines your ability to get the ring. Women qualify men within seconds, and most guys well right off for something stupid as ‘he walk funny’. I do agree with her that we are confused on what the men want. Who you validate is who we assume you want, so we’ll go so far as to make ourself that girl for your attention.

[@GB2139]

She doesn’t like KS because we don’t want to be asked: Dress size!!🙈😂😂

[@LC-wz9kb]

@@GB2139 🙈😂

[@uncleduece2]

Listening to her speak up until KS’ name was mentioned, you’d never get the sense that she felt so strongly against him. If she watched more of his content than clips others have used out of context to support a narrative that was inconsistent with his actual message, she’d find that she agreed with him more than she didn’t.

[@gordiaugustin4062]

I had the EXACT same impression...

[@freshestinclass763]

Her problem.

[@blaquejaque9702]

She is beautiful with her "Mark of Budda" and her patience as she ponders her answers is a refreshing, feminine characteristic

[@deepeyton]

Now she’s right about what she said around the 25:00 mark. As men, we do have to take accountability for the type of women we keep around.

[@drelew]

She made some good points at the end. Every time a dude penetrates a woman knowing he’s not attracted to her contributes to the problem.

[@Jaslath]

Only on the surface level. After all, men have to be concerned about women that will use him for his time, his validation, and his money. So both sides have to watch out to make sure they aren't used by the other sex. The difference is that society will level set a man at some point. Women on the other hand play into the delusion instead of taking a realistic look at themselves. It was not men that told women that they can be a 10 regardless of what they look like. That was women.

[@drelew]

@@Jaslath I hear you. But if a woman is not a ten but is being told she is by other women aaaanndd she’s getting the egg plant, why shouldn’t she believe it?

[@Jaslath]

@@drelew Because women are judged by the man they keep not the men they have sex with.

[@t.713.]

The sexual revolution happened in the 60s. Every since then sex has been less and less sacred at the societal level. Casual sex is normal now and I don't think modern women are confused by it. They just want commitment from the man they want, and are upset when they're unsuccessful.

[@MrShitfire]

Generally the people we interact with and and are in close proximity to everyday can be a baseline ofnwhat we qualify for.

[@digi9ten]

That I can't dunk or shoot was rude facts. She was definitely on code. I was waiting for points of disagreement. Never heard any.

[@dizruptivemindz]

I like the reuse of the word Ministry, in your next question. That's funny.

[@Ben-Ken]

Best thing she said that Kevin agreed with: if men completely left these disagreeable, big Shirley's alone, they would be forced to change their ways. As long as someone is willing to take them on dates or run to their rescue, there's no need for them to change.

[@jubierobinson980]

At the end, her conclusion is exactly what Kevin Samuels advocated…men need to stop sleeping with problematic, disrespectful, & low value women. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@johnseventine_vfx]

We are definitly not the same with women. We bend the knee in front of reality, they run away from it...

[@majorflavor]

This woman provided nothing but Babble!!

[@2madwithaj]

I feel everything she said especially about the conflicting messaging. Leave what you don’t want completely alone and everything will fall in place over time. I think this is true for both sides.

[@cedricbost4478]

You are looking at it from a woman’s mindset. To y’all attention and sex is easy to come but for most men 70-80% are basically invisible to women. Put yourself in their shoes beggars can’t be choosy and we all can’t be winners. Think of how few DM’s you answer those men who can’t get you can’t get the bottom women either cuz the bottom women still want top tier men.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

No it is not. Things are getting worse and won't fix themselves.

[@Cnote1]

High value men do do that, but they do it in wedding rings not by who they sleep with. So if you are saying men should just leave alone women who they don't want, I say that they do. They just do it by not wifing the 250 pound woman who thinks she deserves that higher status man. For women to truly understand men they need to understand Sex and Marriage are two very different things to men. One means nothing and in our eyes plenty of women qualify for. The other means everything and only a select group of women qualify for.

[@garvinjoseph5131]

It will not fall into place especially if you disingenuous.

[@tangoalpha94]

Yeah but I’m sure y’all understand that men will sleep with and even give company to women whom they aren’t truly interested in seriously. Y’all are old enough to get that. For a lot of y’all being laid on top of is enough validation and it’s all you offer but you’re hoping that it can get a man who knows you offer nothing more and who you know isn’t interested in you to date you seriously. The “most educated” love to play dumb.

[@deekers215]

Whether she knows it or not, a lot of what she said is what KS said. One example towards the end she says don't mess with the women that aren't representing what you are looking for. How many times did KS say draw the line and say we are over here. You want to come? Cool You don't? Cool...I love that the conversation is continuing. We are going to figure this out.

[@donpido6023]

If women want certain men, those men determine what those women qualify for.

[@megamarcx84]

A woman that is "good" with herself unfortunately tends not to regard other "good" men, she wants better.

[@ChiTheAesthete]

Wow her opening bar was crazy accurate

[@skills504]

Very interesting

[@bmccray10]

What you make accessible to a man on your back will give you some time a some resources, but what you bring to him upright will determine if you gain the man himself.

[@moneymakin317]

FBI - feminine beautiful inspirational. CIA -confident intelligent assertive