No One Buys Off Grid Solar…

Specifically talking about taking the average residence and turning it into a completely off-grid home. Even the best, most expensive solar panel retrofits utilize the grid heavily.
Electrical is based off a 240 single-phase home with a 200 amp service. (50 amps at 240 volts is 12 kW)
Response video
• No One Buys Solar Pane...
#solarinstallation #offgrid #vanlife

[@gdwoods5607]

Homie if you paid 60k for solar and can't run your oven you got fucking ripped off

[@Kerfufflekitten]

🤣🤣🤣

[@solargoat]

I have 10 years experience designed and installing solar panel systems... please spec out a solar panel set up and the cost that would run an oven.

[@solargoat]

Also I want a turkey not a pizza :D

[@docneron4933]

@@solargoat 72 400W panels, 13K€, 29kWp free standing. 6x 5kW inverters in 3-phase 400V config, 6.6k€. 12x 5kWh LiFePO4 battery, shipped to my door from China, 13.2k€. Installation material 2k€. Labor: 0, did it myself. Altogether 35k€. Country: Germany. Should get you a turkey mate. Even at Thanksgiving night.

[@onthelake9554]

@@solargoat David Poz's oven and ac work .

[@MotorMenaceFPV]

I live off grid in the desert, in a 38ft RV powered by a 50amp 120v system. It has 2 14,000BTU Coleman A/Cs, a full size refrigerator, 2 space heaters, 2 big screen TVs, Xbox, microwave, guitar and 100w amplifier, even washer and dryer. My 50amp main is supplied by 18*300watt panel array charging 4 lifepo4 batteries. I spent $10,000 6 years ago and STILL have more power than I need at any given time.. just not enough to run everything all at the same time. (We have a LPG generator for laundry on hot summer days) My choice to go off grid was one of the the best choices I’ve ever made. I own my home, my land, my power, my water, and my vehicles. It enabled me to save ridiculous amounts at a young age. I’ve been waiting years for the batteries to die, replacement cost was saved in the first 3 months of being off grid. My wife agrees, it was SO worth it!

[@SquaficleDude]

I’ve been off grid in the desert on a meager 12v system with 800w of solar power for 2.5 years now. I built it just to “have something” and I’m finally getting around to a true upgrade. Building a 48v system that will provide way more than I use, AC included, for under $7k. I clicked on this random video and decided it’s “stay in the city and eat the bugs” propaganda.

[@420saralou]

Envious! I want to go off grid in Hawaii!

[@RiverRockRecords]

at least you know what you are talking about lol

[@ricardokennedy9320]

Goals bro 🔥

[@rjmac3001]

I spent less than $1000 and i can run my 8k btu ac unit for a few hours plus power all my stuff. Only thing i cant run are oven and dryer. But i just use propane and laundrymat😂

[@Jonpicklewater]

This is so true this is why I have a wind turbine and nuclear reactor in my backyard

[@bobograndman]

Watch out dude when you get home from work you might not have enough power to cook your pizza in the oven

[@throckmortongame]

I personally have an antimatter engine in my back yard one time my dog bit it and destroyed the universe oopsy

[@CmSil3r]

Lmaooo

[@patsaunders6035]

I'm posting this to prove a point kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSlfmOfiNukf8U

[@Manicord]

Actually way more dumb than panels 🤣

[@MrBozcat]

this guy is the kind of guy who would spend all day trying to find blinker fluid and a left handed screwdriver.

[@maddhatter3564]

Ive found that many electricians are clueless when it comes to solar, he my be one of that crowd, or he may just be a community college "solar expert"

[@Luxamor-8]

Definitely not a fully qualified solar accredited experienced electrician.

[@maddhatter3564]

@@Luxamor-8 Ive looked at other vids just to see if he was just having a bad day in this, nope, hes like thin in all his vids. many shows him throwing new components across a yard.

[@Luxamor-8]

@maddhatter3564 over 40 years as a qualified electrician and involved in doing solar for 20 years, can tell he's an unqualified amatuer that fancies he knows better. Get them in this field, unqualified 'entrepenuers' that start out working with the qualified and doing some panel installs and 'self-teaching' watching and think they're better than doing the years to get technically qualified. As soon as they deal with something slightly out-of-the ordinary and/or technical, they haven't a clue. E.g. i found a main switch used in place of a circuit-breaker, with doing inspections, he's the kind of worry that wouldn't really know what he's looking at.

[@maddhatter3564]

@@Luxamor-8 im a DIY'r and know far more than he does. but i HAVE found that many electricians dont know much bout solar, we need more like you that do, ty.

[@JStkmp]

The moment he said 50 amps... I knew his a fool.

[@solargoat]

The moment I looked at your channel I....

[@J_M3444]

Am I missing something here…? How is he wrong?

[@funnybone2636]

@@golf4life357 ok in the subdivision of America we will talk about amperage to run a home with a 200 amp service The battery size needed to provide that type of amperage would be killer just unmanageable I subdivisions of America you grid tie feed back to the power company all day and hope to get close to zero Going off grid is a completely different animal

[@jeffreytroublefield4265]

Yep

[@funnybone2636]

@@golf4life357 are you for real ? Head on down to the local big box hardware store and see if you can find a highly efficient 240 volt clothes dryer You know because a home with 3 kids has got all the time in the world to wait for 50 gal hot water tank @240 volts 50 amps The full locked rotor start up of 99.9% HVAC compressor’s are 75 Amps at start up think of the size battery needed to keep that started 20 times a day If your putting solar on a home it’s grid tied with zero batteries The power company is your battery Before popping off about power requirements do the math Or sit for the Master Electrical exam in your state You do know me and I could be BS but I’m not I’m a 3 state master electrician with a Photovoltaic certificate to install the junk on roofs When Obama became president we all ran out the to get that Cert

[@lemao851]

When you hire a solar technician from Wish:

[@solargoat]

Apparently no one is able to watch the full video or read the description, its just a race to the comments to talk about something they don’t actually understand in response to something they didn’t pay attention to.

[@CVerse]

@@solargoat like how you race to the replies being defensive about your inaccurate assumptions. Why else would this video still be up unless it’s just for clout

[@petewiebe1344]

@@CVerse The fact he at least has proof he works in the solar field id trust him more than most idiots in these comments. If solar was so viable why doesnt everyone do solar? Because it isnt viable.

[@Sinyao]

@@petewiebe1344 Given how most people are living right now, they can't afford the upfront cost. You have to live in a house, own it, have spare money to put into this system as well as the extra maintenance, etc.

[@patsaunders6035]

I'm posting this to prove a point kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSlfmOfiNukf8U

[@skylergardner2792]

When the installer thinks they know what they're talking about. Lmao

[@patsaunders6035]

I'm posting this to prove a point kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSlfmOfiNukf8U

[@meleardil]

yupp.. I have an offgrid system. 8Kw solar panels. 2 x 5kw hybrid inverters, and 1600Ah battery. It cost 12 000$ (the parts), and I assembled it. My home is controlled by a tiny computer system measuring all the power input, and all the "big consumers" are governed by the available power. I can use EVERYTHING in my home as I did before. The biggest consumer is always heating-cooling. So, I added buffers. Extra warm water storage, heat batteries for winter and summer, and than I can use the full power output of the solar panels during the day. What the guy says is true if you have no idea what are you doing, therefore you can not benefit from the potential of the system.

[@skylergardner2792]

@@meleardil exactly, one day I would like such a system. Obviously people who just throw overpriced solar panels on their roof aren't going to have the best experience. Lol

[@meleardil]

@@skylergardner2792 The power usage habits need to change. you have to be aware ALL THE TIME what is your power input, and use it readily. Living with an offgrid system means that you lose the comfort of "not caring". You cant just turn up heating in the middle of the night when you are on batteries. you need to think ahead all the time. Such is the price of freedom. It is not for "free".

[@firsteerr]

you would worry because the installer clearly doesn't know what the EFF he is talking about !!! would you let him loose on your wooden house ?

[@BuckEighty]

POV : It's your first day on the job "Hey boss, I'm gonna make a Tik Tok"

[@jaysolar6111]

😂

[@aussiegruber86]

This is so accurate

[@davidmuller1958]

loooooooooooooooooooooooool

[@rollnrangers73]

Hahaha, 100%

[@decaprio7421]

"Sponsored by the electric/gas company."

[@tsadrertewrt1439]

Sponsored by reality

[@youtubesucks8632]

No just the facts sadly. Why are you angry at reality?

[@lordquastheonly]

Solar is ass its to expensive for the energy produce we need to go nuclear

[@Ry_TSG]

@SlappyTheClappy Power is measured in watts. Your house uses a certain amount of watts at any given time, and the solar panels output a certain amount of watts at any given time. As long as you produce more watts than are consumed, your house is powered fully. A small house may use 6 thousand watts with several appliances running, so if you install a 7 or 8 thousand watt system, you will have enough power even during the afternoon when there is a bit less light. Amps are just one part of electricity; you could have 50 amps, but if that amperage is at 140 volts then it totals to 7 thousand watts.

[@kiwi8.]

I run my house on solar I have no problem at all I did it myself and only cost me 3.5k I would recommend it to anyone

[@cristobalsepulveda9085]

This dude is literally the definition of "trust me bro"

[@solargoat]

whats that supposed to mean?

[@sp4ce942]

@@solargoat it means that its obvious that you don't have any idea what you're talking about at all

[@joedad9999]

@@solargoat you literally start this video saying nobody gets solar panels to go off grid, and in another comment said you make a living installing off grid systems.

[@rongray4118]

You NAILED IT!!

[@maddhatter3564]

@@solargoat it means he is full of sh!t

[@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson]

The quarter of a million people currently living off grid on solar would be quite surprised to hear this.

[@luvkayakn]

Most live in tiny homes and keep their electrical needs simple. Residential solar would probably make sense for homes 1000-2000sf, even if the solar system supplied 25%-50% of the power and the grid powered HVAC and refrigeration with gas supplementing cooking and heating.

[@Mike-01234]

@@luvkayakn Check out DIY solar forum many there have 50-60KWH DIY lifep04 battery systems have gone off grid. Get rid of those big HVAC split systems go with mini-split way more efficient.

[@AnandShah3977]

When a not-so-intelligent person tries to give advise on a subject he barely understands.... THIS happens.

[@lindaevans3815]

Good one,🤣. But true.

[@Sean-MacGuire]

What's sad is he claims he's been doing solar for a decade LMFAO

[@JoshuaHughesWisconsin]

If you’re off grid, your dryer is called a clothes line

[@miguelmorales9667]

And your electric stove is heated by gas or you use the top of a hot wood stove.

[@sergej2850]

and your air conditioning is called opening the goddamn window

[@maddhatter3564]

@@sergej2850evap is a good cooling system with solar

[@whatnowok]

It doesn’t work bleach is the clothes a little bit in the summertime but surprised how quick they dry little stiff just throw them in the dryer afterwards

[@maddhatter3564]

@@whatnowok if they were washed properly they dont get stiff and you dont hang then in the direct sunlight in desert areas.

[@Vidzaes]

My dad actually lives off grid! He has 4-5 panels (I think) and a propane powered grill, and wood heating! He doesn’t much care for the city so he decided to renovate his dads old house (which is in the middle of the woods, with no power) during winter, he has a generator because the suns out a bit less. It’s a really cool mix of old and new.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

I like those kind of places.

[@clublulu399]

Damn I’m low key jealous

[@PlatinumHustle]

Sounds like a serial killer

[@happyinhilo]

I live off grid in Hawaii. Propane frig and stove, catchment gravity feed water I know the difference between want and need. It's that simple.

[@ninelaivz4334]

@@happyinhilo How much propane does the frig use per month or year?

[@rykerhasyounow]

I have integrated into a number of off-grid systems here in Australia. Theyre doing just fine.

[@blacksmokin]

​@s.r5534 100kWh a day is insane amount of power. Average home only uses 27-30kWh. I have electric everything, 3 Refrigerators 2 electric water heaters electric dryer. I'm powering 3 homes on the same meter at most I might hit 57kWh.

[@leolulich5608]

I guess I am Mr Nobody. With off grid solar, you heat air, cook and heat water with gas or wood. Minimize electric use and NO problem.

[@bullstrike9810]

how to tell ppl you have no idea about solarenergie without telling them:

[@jackolimb6145]

Bro you didn't even spell energy right....

[@akreas1]

@@jackolimb6145 That's the german word for it. Autocorrect usually doesn't like words that are written nearly identical in two languages

[@ololh4xx]

@@belafonteBloo "60 panels is like 40 kWh" does not make any sense at all. It is simply impossible to measure panels by KILOWATTHOURS. You "could" measure it by kWp, which is a completely different unit - and : no, SIXTY panels (usually) do not produce 40 kWp .

[@chaosplayer9903]

@@jackolimb6145 You're a fool. Learn more languages and understand spell check comes in many languages.

[@gonzalopelaez5649]

@@jackolimb6145 american discovers there are other languages that are not English

[@TheFoxygrandpa69]

Goes to show. Even if you "know" how to install them, you dont know how they work lol

[@Elohim100]

He’s still right though, the demand you will put on the energy the solar panels produce can very often exceed its capacity. They’re supplementary, and will never totally replace the grid.

[@planetlimbo5981]

@@Elohim100 they can last up to 20 years, and plus they are making way more thought out supercapaciters and other forms of photovoltaic tech that's surpassing the market.

[@planetlimbo5981]

If your typical electric bill is 100 monthly and you spend 20k it pays off

[@AndreClaps]

@@Elohim100 pop

[@nicklikesradio]

@@planetlimbo5981 yayy. Your shit solar panels last 20 years. Whoop dee doo

[@DavidLaFerney]

Whenever you start a sentence with “nobody” or “everybody” you set yourself up to look dumb. This guy’s statement is simply not true.

[@user-rn3rn6nl3h]

It's never always

[@breedlofam]

Most subdivisions in the US houses run 200amp inverters, but that's for power from solar not backup batteries. The start-up amperage of a decent HVAC is 75amp. Nearly all battery panels are outputting 50amps or less. If you have a super efficient HVAC, it's still 50amp start up, so if literally anything else is running in the house, the HVAC can't even start. So yeah, basically nobody or as close to nobody that you're just being pedantic

[@gregoryk.9815]

@@breedlofam mmmm no maybe 30+years ago but most made today are

[@breedlofam]

@@gregoryk.9815 You're confusing running amperage with starting amperage. A newer high efficiency 3 ton requires a 60 amp air handler breaker for example. After starting it typically runs at 15. However, if you're battery panel (most) have a 50 amp output, it's not going to even start. Even if you have a smaller ton AC, using under 50 in the air handler breaker, you have to ensure you aren't running a washer and dryer, depending on how much they draw. This is why most homes are not and cannot be fully off the grid and feed power to the utility company instead of directly to the home. Too much start up draw on the average home. Less than 1% of homes using solar, are actually not tied to utilities at all, because they just can't yet.

[@DavidLaFerney]

@@breedlofam it’s true that if you just install some solar and batteries and leave everything the same then “off grid” is going to be pretty compromised. But that’s pretty obvious if you do any research at all. Off grid is pretty much a lifestyle choice - if you must have everything all the time at a whim it’s probably not a good choice. But it opens up a whole new vast array of locations where you can alive.

[@joskimengstrom2853]

Never listen to anyone who calls himself "the GOAT" lol.

[@solargoat]

Never question the 🐐

[@Ultimate-Gamer1983]

@@solargoat baaaaa

[@TheShimmy12]

Dude, my house is off grid fully powered by solar power and the cost paid for itself in 10 years lol

[@ali.bukhari04]

10 years? That's too long. In my country the investment usually pays off in 2-4 years (depends on unit price)

[@klusher5556]

Same here

[@L0wSkiller]

@@ali.bukhari04 cool story

[@Kaigozen]

@@ali.bukhari04 which country?

[@kingabdullah338]

My university has $60K worth of panels, which is about 4280 panels (about 14$ for the panel) and they are off grid, you just need to know how to use it and where to get a good deal

[@Na7ure]

This video is dumb AF. My house is completely off grid and so is my best friends entire marijuana farm lol

[@Already100]

Now since you put your comment on KZbin the government knows exactly where you're at fool..... 😆 🤣 😂

[@alejandronino5575]

@@Already100 he’s off the grid most likely he uses vpn

[@OE-jy6yt]

*DEA has entered the chat*

[@erisgh0sted961]

Oh yeah? He need some enterprising business partners in the southeast? Asking for a friend. 😉

[@uhsi530]

@@Already100 what’s he doing that’s illegal??

[@geraldbrown7718]

Dude. I'm off grid and run all that with no problem. Usually you have a backup to charge your batteries if needed. I might run backup generator 20 hours a year. Mostly during winter when snow is covering panels.

[@kiwi8.]

Same it's cheap and easy I would never be connected to the grid again

[@Bayliss21]

You're a liar

[@Bayliss21]

@@kiwi8. you're also a liar

[@DADuTV_]

That varies highly based on how much electricity you consume. I consume over 2000kwh a month on average. In the summer I use about 3300 in Arizona and my house is basic and average

[@Bayliss21]

@@DADuTV_ don't speak facts they only understand lies. Electric heat pump in Minnesota uses about 1500kwhr for heating alone in winter for 2500 Sq ft house. Fully Electric house with car is 4000kwhr/month. During the winter. With no sun. Green pipe dream. Only works for HVAC during peak demand in southern states. Otherwise waste of capital.

[@meleardil]

I have an offgrid system. 8Kw solar panels. 2 x 5kw hybrid inverters, and 1600Ah battery. It cost 12 000$ (the parts), and I assembled it. My home is controlled by a tiny computer system measuring all the power input, and all the "big consumers" are governed by the available power. I can use EVERYTHING in my home as I did before. The biggest consumer is always heating-cooling. So, I added buffers. Extra warm water storage, heat batteries for winter and summer, and than I can use the full power output of the solar panels during the day. What the guy says is true if you have no idea what are you doing, therefore you can not benefit from the potential of the system.

[@jerometruitt2731]

Yup! He's telling only half the story.

[@brandon4dacrib]

Can you tell me more about your heat battery usage?

[@meleardil]

@@brandon4dacrib I use TWO these: 200 liter, double heat exchanger spiral, 3kW electric heater (6kW maximum power absorption) That 400l water heated between 20 and 80 Celsius is storing more than 28 kWh energy. Price about 600$ each. The direct water output can be used as warm water for washing, shower, etc, the heat exchanger can be lopped into the heating system and can warm up the rooms. www.nemsemmi.hu/img/5911/SUN_BB_200_V_PRL_3kW_B/Sunsystem_2_hocserelos_bojler_tarolo_200_liter.jpg

[@Teknopottu]

Tell us more about your system. Sounds interesting.

[@Scaliad]

The lie is, saying "as I did before" when you go on to say how things are different. Off-grid can never be as easy as on and does require many adaptations and compromises. There are some days you can only hope there will be enough battery power to keep the freezers going without powering on the generator... This guy isn't right, but he isn't far from it. Experiences may vary... PS: I have 9kW solar, 15kWh LiPO and 10kWh (to 50%) LA battery.

[@ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.nothing.9222]

"Do not recommend this channel"

[@solargoat]

why?

[@lemao851]

@@solargoat why not? 🗿

[@Tycoon248]

@@solargoat the very first video I see of you is you not only being wrong, but getting btfo in the comments by people pricing out a system after you challenged them to do so, yet you either ignore it or go on to make another incorrect claim. It's okay to have been wrong, just go over why you thought what you did, and rescind it! Make another video addressing the controversy, cover the basic points, and leave your ego behind in order to educate people on the realities of solar! Best of luck!

[@justSomeUserOnYT]

The comments on this video are suffering from social pressure. Everyone is following what appears to be the main "opinion." There's nothing wrong with this channel or this video.

[@justSomeUserOnYT]

@@Tycoon248 I've noticed a lot of people commenting don't understand how solar systems work. You generate your usage during the day, but during the evening? You are either going to suck off your battery backup (very expensive) or you are borrowing from the grid and offsetting with whatever you potentially send back. At the end of the day, most people just reduce half their bill or so. That is, during the day they have a solar array priced out to meet their demand so their panels are generating their usage to the kw. You don't usually buy a massive array to try and cover 100% of your usage. It's not cost effective

[@robertstout7756]

You gotta be kidding I’ve been living off grid for over 20 years in a 4000 square-foot house with a big shop and also charge my electric car with solar

[@solargoat]

I love to check out the specs on your current set up!

[@J_M3444]

Would love to see your set up. A house that size would get a 400 amp service

[@robertstout7756]

@@J_M3444 I designed and built this house 22 years ago to be a low energy consuming off grid home. Super insulated airtight energy recovery ventilator. Originally we had 3200 pounds of lead acid batteries. Now much more storage with 600 pounds of LFP batteries.

[@jamesmcd71]

Bull shit. Tell the full story. You only cool 1 or 2 rooms at a time. Or it's built under grade. You don't have a normal 4k house powerd by solar only. If green energy was so good you people wouldn't have to lie about it.

[@vmr6771]

And a generator....

[@hisokalperv1096]

"Surely nobody that knows how solar panels work will watch my videos"

[@DaveSquibbSr]

Yep and LMAO@him, this has to be a joke.

[@jedburnell9046]

Every OTG customer needs a tank of propane for the stove, furnace, & hot water. I have 600watts of solar panels that I bought in 2005, and it is still working fine. I paid $550 and installed it myself.

[@RareVBlue]

When the new untrained helper tries to do a misinformed psa announcement **

[@chief5981]

Solar is great for wealthy people. The people putting it on 20 year payments and mounting it on there 14 year old roof make no sense to me

[@twiztedclown]

@@chief5981 let me sum it up for you. Sure you are making payments now but eventually you will be self sufficient... if you believe in fairy tales because you never actually own anything when your renting the land from a government. Slip up on those land taxes a few times see how much you truly own.

[@chief5981]

@@twiztedclown thank you for your inferior wisdom. Nothing condescending about it. 👍🏽

[@TheKiroshi]

@@chief5981 -- a single panel, depending on the tech, usually has 40-80 photovoltaic cells, which is about 400-ish watts of power over 16 hours of sunlight. Large collectors like the one here are probably 8 or 12 cells. The average American household uses about 25-ish kW/h a day. (Pretty high across the world). So yeah, while this isn't covering every inch of your power supply, it's *way* better to create some power for your house by yourself, instead of continuing the excessive burden that 0 supply has.. Solar energy also is pretty fucking bad in america, the install, electricians and distribution is *insanely* fucking price gouged, and if you're spending 1M on a 2 bedroom home, you might as well spend 20K on energy for it.

[@solargoat]

Apparently no one is able to watch the full video or read the description, its just a race to the comments to talk about something they don’t actually understand in response to something they didn’t pay attention to.

[@andrewtupua4039]

And this guy has the audacity to call himself, ‘solarGoat’. 💀

[@solargoat]

Its lonely at the top... you tell people the truth and it gets ugly

[@Commonsenseisntcommon34]

@@solargoat you have to prove that it's the truth first kiddo

[@bradley3549]

Goats are good at climbing, not engineering.

[@conormulligan7966]

@@solargoat youre on top of a roof, leave the complicated shit to the engineers you clearly have no clue what youre talking about

[@LadyFireShelf]

If someone is living off the grid I think they have bigger problems than cooling their living space and cooking at the same time lmao

[@bobograndman]

Exactly like if you’re off grid you’re not gonna be blasting your electric oven, watching your cinema tv, and running a nasa supercomputer.

[@losbw4594]

@@bobograndman ya, you will be freezing your ass off in the winter wiping ice and snow off solar panels. You will also be chopping down wood to heat your house

[@Sinyao]

@@bobograndman I've seen van lifers running monster gaming PC's with just 2 solar panels nowadays. 😭

[@randybobandy9828]

@@Sinyao no you haven't. They use laptops with low power consumption. Nobody is running a 600w pc with 2 small 100w solar panels.

[@SeleneHammer-pn8hr]

I live off grid run my Xbox x and my oven and my air conditioning just fine as long as the sun is out lol

[@pokemon10177]

When you off grid, the ac is called a window unit while enjoying a cold drink from a 12V fridge

[@Rassettaja]

50 amps.... Had me in tears lmao

[@supercunthunt7756]

I mean who cares if it's 1 volt with 50 amps or 230 volts with 50 amps. 🤣 /s

[@patsaunders6035]

I'm posting this to prove a point kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZSlfmOfiNukf8U

[@patsaunders6035]

Rigghhtttt!!!

[@spacebook8923]

Even if he meant to say watts it’s still an incredibly low measurement

[@supercunthunt7756]

@Sebastian Hahn 50 amps on 120 V doesnt seem that bad either

[@PleasantSuprise]

This is blatantly untrue

[@solargoat]

To clarify I’m talking about retrofitting the average residential home to be completely offgrid. Not just have a grid tied solar panel system, or even a hybrid system with a few batteries.

[@bsktballman08]

@@solargoat nope, lying.

[@pgood7266]

@@bsktballman08 what’s the lie?

[@TimB-]

@@solargoat As some others have mentioned, the cost of off grid is not as high anymore. At retail prices, one can get 30kwh of LFP for $9k, two 6.5kw off grid inverters for $2.5k, and probably another $1k for other supplies (double aught wire between battery and inverters, high amp fuse, battery rack). I would wager the toughest barrier would be regulations not allowing one to disconnect the average suburban house from the grid. Rural homes probably have a better chance there.

[@clayross6765]

@solarGOAT still not true

[@DStripeM]

The moment he said 50 amps I knew he was a click bait

[@FloppyCat1990]

Yea, kinda weird he used that measurement.

[@richardroberson9277]

@@FloppyCat1990 i mean......10kw inverters are only 42 amps. so they cant possibly power 50 amp appliances. and thats a large system

[@ElektrischInkorrekt]

@@FloppyCat1990 why? To get the Same output Power, Current is much higher, if the voltage is lower. So If you have solar Panels, these will have around 30-50 volts. 50A * 50V = 2.500W...

[@CR03_Outdoor_Adventures]

I’m just putting it out there that you don’t need all that stuff to live in the first place. A lot of people around my area are mostly off grid except for electricity. They have wood stoves and wells. There’s all kinds of low power appliances you could use like air fryers. You could also just cook on the wood stove. You can wash clothes with rain water and dry them on a clothes line. Not to mention the fact that you can also have other power sources to charge your batteries such as wind turbines, hydro turbines, biogas, etc. I plan to live off grid in a tiny house so that way I’ll be debt free and I can peruse my own business ventures that I actually want to do without worrying about making payments, high taxes, or being stuck in a 9-5 loop.

[@maddhatter3564]

I highly encourage moving off grid , IF you dont expect to be 100% electric and live as you would in an inner city apartment. Sounds like you know that already tho so godspeed.

[@fmita_]

I spent $15k on my solar panels for my roof and I get paid for them. I have extra power I don’t use at the end of every month and the government literally buys it from me. This guy is clueless lmfao

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

He literally said exactly what you just said You don’t buy a solar system for 50-60k with batteries and a take a loss You replace your electric bill with a solar bill and get paid for your power Literally what he just said

[@anaklngameplayer2549]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 a solar bill? Who's he giving the money to the fucking Sun?

[@johnnothe]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 literally the oposite of what he said but okax

[@justSomeUserOnYT]

The government doesn't buy shit. Your local energy company does. Furthermore, not all of them purchase it from you at the same rate. Some co-ops could buy back 1cent per kWh. Not very worth even sending back to the grid if that's the case.

[@anaklngameplayer2549]

@@justSomeUserOnYT the government literally does actually buy shit. These things are called government subsidies okay subsidies means payments made by a government and they do buy shit as in fertilizer they do buy extra food so they can throw it away they do buy extra power and guess what is the most subsidized company in the United States of America. Tesla because they don't sell shit

[@bugman23]

"Don't recommend this channel"

[@solargoat]

why?

[@quack1119]

Yeah Why?

[@zakariakhamees]

but why?

[@roar1ng]

Damn right its shit

[@NumbDiggers1998]

@@solargoat i worked as electrician for 8 years, you're talking complete nonsense, fool

[@fabiopauli420]

Me who lives in Germany where AC is considered exclusively to Stores: I dont have such weaknesses

[@jordyvermeulen2121]

Man i was in germany ( im dutch ) in an heat wave i think it was 39 degrees no AC in the fcking burger king that eas just rediculous dude XD doors windows open ants everywere .

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

@@jordyvermeulen2121 That's "progress" for you.

[@miguelmorales9667]

This guy doesn't know what "Off-Grid" really means.

[@samueleveleigh2767]

if your running everything in your home its not the solar panels fault, its your excessive power needs.

[@randybobandy9828]

Right? Maybe turn off the ac for 30 minutes while you cook your food. It's not hard. Then don't use your dryer while cooking.

[@hannibalchow8492]

“Think about it.” I knew he was full of S@&T after he said that

[@solargoat]

okay...

[@guyjackson1839]

@@solargoat yeah, commenting to every single person pretty much that says you’re wrong or they say something completely within your range to see if you know it and you say something that sounds even the slightest bit off, that kind of means your 10 years of experience might be somewhere around four or five years of experience. Now I know nothing about Solar panel wire rain again taking a house fully off grade or anything like that but both of my brothers know a lot about wiring and solar panels and off grid stuff.

[@maddhatter3564]

@@guyjackson1839 yes the more he comments the more it shows how little he knows.

[@QuantumLeap83]

Pretty sure he's been partaking from those left handed cigarettes

[@jamiewebber7755]

Left handed cigarettes 🤣 brilliant

[@cam5816]

What??

[@madbruv]

@@cam5816 weed been rotting his brain

[@cam5816]

@@madbruv I’d never heard it called that. Is that a common slang term? I like it

[@solargoat]

Apparently no one is able to watch the full video or read the description, its just a race to the comments to talk about something they don’t actually understand in response to something they didn’t pay attention to.

[@bigdogsolarenergy]

This actually makes sense. When compared to a grid-tied solar system. People do go off-grid, but it requires a much larger system to be able to handle going off-grid.

[@thedivinemissm7795]

He doesn't know jack!!! And, RV'ers do it all the time, so this fool is talkin' outta his backside...

[@lordjaashin]

tbf RV and home are hardly comparable. living space size difference between RV and a home is too big

[@thedivinemissm7795]

@@lordjaashin living space size has nothing to do with WHETHER YOU CHOOSE TO GO SOLAR FOR OFFGRID...you ignore the reality that it is done ALL THE TIME...because it works very well... why the idiot chose to highlight your crap-talk makes no sense...

[@freeaudiobooks7469]

If all we needed is solar panels, why don't we just all do it. It's impossible you sheep! Need a football field to power ur home

[@eastonvonschist2283]

@@lordjaashin exactly. I guess there are those who don't know jack

[@redskins1120]

RV people use different sources of energy. From propane, solar, and electric from the area the rent.

[@DrBernon]

My family does. It is awesome. You just need to be mindful of your power consumption. Completely worth it. Enjoy paying truck loads of money to the electric company.

[@robertsmith2956]

What is even funnier. Fools that listen to the gooberment, and spend $25K+. Will find out they were suckered as the power company raises it's rates, since they are selling less power, they need to charge more to get the same money. So now on a cloudy day you pay the same you used to pay for the entire month, and still have to pay for the solar. government will NEVER take a loss. They proved that when they bailed themselves out after the crash they caused.

[@realalexesparza]

I'm off grid since 2001. I run my whole house

[@ashtonbull5758]

How much did it cost you to buy and install, and how much has it cost you in repairs and Replacements of solar panels and batteries??.. And when you need a new roof do you have to pay to have the solar panels uninstalled and then reinstalled??.. would you mind mentioning the company who installs your solar setup??

[@realalexesparza]

@@ashtonbull5758 I'm a homesteader. All of my equipment was done by me. My arrays are ground mounted. I have 10kw of solar panels, 15kw 240v split phase inverter and 40kw of storage, lithium ion. But I did it in iterations. My first setup was a 700w inverter with alligator clips on my 1973 Datsun pickup. I would idle it for a few hours to watch TV after work.

[@ashtonbull5758]

@@realalexesparza but 0 information on price$$$$$... super awesome you make it sound so affordable and easy.. For a car... don't get me wrong brother it's super awesome that you're a Homesteader.. I don't believe you live in the south because you would probably die in your car of heat... I was looking for more of an answer with somebody who had them put on their house...

[@realalexesparza]

I was responding to your video. You said nobody does it. I'm telling you people do. Maybe your point is that it's expensive, my response is, It can be depending on how much you are willing to do. As far as money, like I said iterations. It's hard to do it at once unless you finance. It took me 10 years to get where I am and probably another 10 where I'm going. I live in a desert. It gets plenty hot 🔥. Try 120F. And yes, it is nice being independent.

[@PugilistCactus]

Any redundancies? Cause if you're just using solar, I hope you never get stuck in a hail or wind storm.

[@kylewatson5133]

I spent 60k on my system (42K after tax credit) and I'm completely off grid. That got me 80Kwh battery, and 95 panels. I produce, on a sunny day, 92 kwh in Dec (low) and 176 kwh in the summer.

[@arturodiaz3047]

Nice. Would you post your system details. Like panel size and brand batteries etc Thanks

[@kylewatson5133]

​@@arturodiaz3047 60x 365W Half-Cell Black Mono Solar Panel by Znshine east and west facing. 35x Boviet 370W Bifacial Solar Panels (Black) | Up to 444W, southern facing. 6x Energytech solar 13.4 kwh battery packs. I added 2x 13.4 kwh battery packs soon for half the price of the energytech solar, the keshee battery kit. Working well so far!

[@frankmontez6853]

Buy a lot of electricity and gas from your city utilities company with all that money . Our house utility bill is around $100-200 per month maybe peaks at summer up to $300 a month. Our house could be better insulated

[@kylewatson5133]

@frankmontez6853 100%. Keep in mind, that IF the system does live up to its specs it can also produce a ton of electricity over 20. But. Its really proof of concept for me. Can these systems run for 15 or 20 years to where you get your monies worth? We shall see

[@frankmontez6853]

@@kylewatson5133 a lot of money to see if it works out

[@jtnoodle]

apparently, all in one split phase 48V systems and server rack batteries don't exist in his world.

[@kameljoe21]

That is what I was thinking too. He said 50k. Even with used panels I think I can get 50kw solar and battery. Let me run numbers using 1500 inverter 6kw, 5kwh battery 1500, 25 cents used 50 cents new solar per watt. for 9 all in one inverters stacked for 56kwh solar and inverter capacity, 50kwh of used solar panels and 50kwh of new battery is 41k give or take. Then 9k in wire, mounts and what ever else. Might even get away with 48kwh at a better margin for extras. 48kwh is pretty good for day time loads which will run central air and anything else. Even water heaters and some day time electric heat as dump loads. You should be able to run everything a normal house uses off 48kwh which is 4kwh for 12 hours. Plus the 48kwh solar should be more than enough solar for winter and extrema heat days.

[@solargoat]

You would think... Im not just talking crap... I install off-grid solar panels system for a living.... You take my word for it and check out my page if you want.

[@phoenixparrot9351]

@@solargoat I live off the grid in Australia, and we run the fridge-freezer, microwave, gas oven, lighting, and hot water.

[@tonyravioli1982]

@@phoenixparrot9351 you run a gas oven do you? All that electricity man.

[@joedad9999]

@@solargoat you literally started this video saying "Nobody buys solar panels to go off grid" and then say you make a living installing off grid solar panels. Sounds like someone who's full of shit to me.

[@coltonadkins7929]

Tell me you're stupid without saying "I'm stupid".

[@solargoat]

Apparently no one is able to watch the full video or read the description, its just a race to the comments to talk about something they don’t actually understand in response to something they didn’t pay attention to.

[@maddhatter3564]

@@solargoat I read the description and you are STILL full of crap. Stick to installing premade systems since you have 0 clue about how the systems work.

[@dubious6718]

@@solargoat Its a short, and yes it will run everything.

[@kurama4055]

Someone give him a Calculator.

[@solargoat]

Lol

[@5400bowen]

More like remedial arithmetic!

[@racingtogreen2023]

You can whittle away at your electric bill until you are essentially getting free power in 4-5 years. We have 3 small off grid systems with used panels, and economical electronics. One 3.6kW system charging our Ford Lighting, and running a 12k BTU mini-split in the Garage, with 10kw of backup battery, one 1.2kW used panel system running a 9k BTU mini-split with a 5kW battery system, powering an 14x8 art studio in the backyard, and I'm typing from a home office powered by a 600watt used panel system with 1.4kW, DIY, 18650 battery system. All told, we've got less than $7k into all these systems.

[@clandestin011]

God, if only there was some way to plan your system in order to never have that problem. Like, something involving numbers, and we could make those interact with some kind of operations. That would really help!

[@Irohbro]

Having off grid powersystems is quite normal wtf is this guy talking about xD

[@clandestin011]

@@Irohbro yep... Thing is off grid is generally less interesting financially because the investment to have enough battery is quite huge. So that guy who only do "on grid" systems made up a bullshit reason for that youtube money

[@maddhatter3564]

@@clandestin011 and the GUBMENT doesnt pay anything if you are off grid solar.

[@jamiebrock7157]

50 amps for 80 thousand dollars???? I've never heard of somebody paying so much for so little

[@solargoat]

Just to clarify I’m not talking about low voltage DC. I’m talking about 240 vac. 50 amps at 240 volts is 12,000 watts. Most off grid inverters are 120 and 5000 watts.

[@Big.Ron1]

@@solargoat True but you can run multiple inverters and create a 240 system. They do it all the time on yachts. It does require a solid battery bank but thats not a problem to design and build. Plus they make very efficient appliances for just this. However I would do propane for oven, on demand water heater, and grill. Just sayin.

[@briandavis9975]

@@solargoat not anymore there are a lot of 240 inverters out there

[@ucheeze6220]

@@solargoat "But I'll know my song well before I start singing"

[@twistedhillbilly6157]

@@solargoat GAS oven, no AC. Why 240?? if you need it for a welder or something,, get a generator for that..

[@lukemurphy7917]

I have six panels and I can run my dryer, heater, dishwasher and washing machine and fridges and everything running in the background constantly all at the same time and I live in Ireland, a country where we have one sunny day of the year and it rains hales, is 20*c and snows all at the same time within a 30 km radius, I don’t have a battery pack yet, I sell it back for the time being and it STILL saves me enough for a holiday

[@SpecialJay]

Yes? You're not off grid though

[@Qosmio1955]

The grid went down in our town last night. The only reason we knew about it was that we heard the backup generator at the hospital up the road, fire up. We are off grid with a system more than adequate for our needs (15.1kWof panels and 32kWh of batteries) and it didn't cost anywhere near what that dude was prattling on about. In fact, we went over the top to ensure that we have redundancy built in, just in case something fails. 3 x 5KVA inverters in parallel, single phase. 4 x MPPT solar controllers, each capable of 4.5kW output. 10 x modular LiFePO4 battery units at 3.4kWh each. We have a complete monitoring system and the whole lot is integrated with Home Assistant to automate tasks. We even have a 7.36kW EV charger, which we use regularly. I'm not sure that this dude has a handle on solar power.

[@feliciasuharja4466]

Would you be so kind as to share your off grid setting to do's..? 😅

[@jk5099]

"A really cool battery" lmao how about 32 batteries

[@andrewwaters2354]

When the power goes out and you're grid tied you will have nothing just remember that

[@yararaq]

And you'll be happy

[@dannywilliams6643]

@@yararaq 😂

[@Teh_Random_Canadian]

@All Cars Matter Backfeeding into the grid is extremely dangerous and highly illegal when generating backup power. Transfer switches exist for this exact purpose

[@Teh_Random_Canadian]

If power goes out and stays out becase of a SHTF scenario, you are screwed anyways, sure you will be more comfortable then most for a couple weeks maybe a month, after that unless you live on an acreage, your screwed.

[@ApeBlin]

If the grid goes down for that long that you can be smug about your setup you're going to be running into issues bigger than just you.

[@trustthedogsheneverlies644]

Me living in a van, always checking battery status before even putting the lights on.....

[@randybobandy9828]

Don't compare a van with limited space for solar panels to a full house. Buy a bigger battery.

[@terrya6486]

I have been off grid for 6 years now. I run everything in my house and my tractor store all at the same time. Only spent $30k. My system is paid off now. Free power now and drive my car for free also.

[@cognitor900]

Well I’m enjoying all my gear…. Mine must be a 55 amp system though. You’re a goose….

[@davycornell8715]

Lmfao. A goose. I like it 🤠

[@richardroberson9277]

youre not lol...stop lying. or post specs. youd need multiple powerwalls 3+ to be doing that stuff if off grid....stop blatantly lying. powerwalls only make 32 amps peak

[@solargoat]

☝️ thank you

[@networkingdude]

@solarGOAT @@richardroberson9277 Nobody with brains runs tesla power walls lol. You buy rackmount batteries, 5kw for 1500 bucks. Average home needs 30kwh per day so buy 6 $1500 batteries for $9000. 2 6.5KW inverters (54 amps lol) for $2500 and 14KW of panels for $8000 So about 20 grand plus a simple mounting system. Pays back in about 10 years....Sooner if you pay more than 0.15/kwh Batteries will last close to 20 and panels will last 40-50. Invert change once maybe.

[@networkingdude]

@@solargoat Nobody with brains runs tesla power walls lol. You buy rackmount batteries, 5kw for 1500 bucks. Average home needs 30kwh per day so buy 6 $1500 batteries for $9000. 2 6.5KW inverters (54 amps lol) for $2500 and 14KW of panels for $8000 So about 20 grand plus a simple mounting system. Pays back in about 10 years....Sooner if you pay more than 0.15/kwh Batteries will last close to 20 and panels will last 40-50. Invert change once maybe.

[@martinswart3226]

Dude 50A is alot, even in South Africa where we use 240V our main breakers trip at a max of 60A

[@solargoat]

200 is the standard in American. 50 should be plenty… thanks for commenting.

[@DIYDaveT]

@@solargoat Don't mistake 200 Amp service box for 200Amp consumption! If your house is drawing more than 10kW for more than just a few tens of minutes at any time then you have too damned much electrical consumption. That's only 40Amps at 240V.

[@chaitanyakulkarni6416]

200 is standard? Sir 100 is standard, you have to call grid company to come and upgrade to you to 150 or 200. 200 amp connection dosnt mean 200amp consumption.

[@happydays2190]

​@@DIYDaveTdw he doesn't reply to facts

[@kimmogensen5390]

denmark our mains is 35A our biggest fuse in the panel is 16A what are you gonna run on 50A ? a fucking steelmill? we run 250-500A bms but thats battery power and thats more than enough

[@Dilloz12]

What do you mean nobody does it got off grid?? What about every person who lives off grid. Certified clown 🤡

[@solargoat]

Certified electrician, and certified with every inverter and battery manufacture…

[@Dilloz12]

@@solargoat certified but pirate maybe

[@solargoat]

😂😂😂

[@solargoat]

Got me

[@Cumincyder]

@@solargoat certified pole smoker if you ask me 🤣🤣

[@UnlimitedWhitetailHunting]

We are completely off grid at our Barndo in Ohio. $20k system installed DIY. This guy is hilarious

[@brianthegreat4807]

My 2.7k system was 6000$.. Half of that was the mount. I'm off grid.

[@maddhatter3564]

but ppl like you and i dont exist in his world (1.8 kw system $5K)

[@internalharm]

Damn I need 8 kw in the city

[@maddhatter3564]

@@internalharm no you dont, its a lifestyle. dont use electric everything. In denver apt i started moving to less electricity. used a patio gas stove for cooking and dropped my power bill significantly

[@MIKESTREED]

I’m completely off grid solar and i spent under 30K. Would have cost me 40K to run power to my house from the grid. This guy is blowing smoke. I can even run a mig welder. It all depends on your inverters. Da Heck is this fool talking about!?

[@daltonrogers5483]

I spent 14k on 30kw of battery 10kw of solar get 120amps of solar charging

[@TheJoshissaxy]

I see. The solar panel installation man is going to tell me the scientists and engineers are wrong. Sure bro

[@Nomad9032]

It’s doable with some lifestyle changes. I live in an off grid cabin run completely on solar. You just have to get appliances that are lower wattage etc I don’t have a full blown oven but have ninja indoor grill and other ninja products that I can cook everything I’ve wanted on and my 2000 watts of solar and 5 100ah batteries have never failed me. Small at the source water heater for shower and everything. Only thing I don’t have currently is washer and dryer.

[@WorBlux]

When the utility want's to charge you $300,000 to run out the lines, damn right you go off grid. Also no rule that says you can't include a generator to get through a rainy week.

[@literallyanangrymoose7717]

Redundancy is just smart design. Backups aren't hypocrisy.

[@richardroberson9277]

what shit hole are you living in lol wut

[@Commonsenseisntcommon34]

@@literallyanangrymoose7717 I agree 100%.

[@ragewalrus6116]

30k people really said, “this confirms my bias”, did zero research, and hit thumbs up

[@solargoat]

No 30k people didn’t miss understand my post. I’m specifically talking about converting the average residence to an all solar off grid set up…. Not only is is illegal to disconnect from the grid in most areas its not possible without supplemental power from the grid, wind, a generator, etc

[@arvindrueben]

@@solargoat illegal in America maybe. Not elsewhere in the world. Also your editing is just 🤢

[@fmachine86]

You have absolutely zero idea what you’re talking about.

[@solargoat]

Never question the 🐐

[@alexanderpartida877]

@@solargoat you triggered some people ha! I get what your saying about peak current etc.

[@fmachine86]

@@solargoat As an electrical engineer, I always question people giving advice when they're objectively incorrect.

[@rvadventures]

HOA in Florida are banning solar. Our neighbors got a solar water heater,the HOA saw it a year later and made them remove it. Now the neighbors took it to court and lost. HOA in Florida has the power because they are tied in with the county commissioners and raise taxes for the retention ponds,right of ways, sidewalks replace, replace.

[@Nanqkz]

“50 amps” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@wilhelmbeck8498]

At 120 volts, American standard, it's 120*50=6000 watts continuos output. Enough to run a small ceramic kiln ....

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

I think this installer only has experience with owners who are buying juuust enough solar to improve their resale value. That 25% solution is all he's thinking of. Those kind of people drive a Tesla so their friends will pretend to like them. 😳

[@thomasspringer5187]

I know! Most controller's are 30 amp unless you have wind turbines mixed in the solar array.

[@majid_us]

Why is he on the roof acting like installing solar panels?

[@solargoat]

I don’t know I just really enjoy acting I guess. I decided it was better if I just act like a electrical contractor rather then be one.

[@darryllovett2291]

Absolutely an example of you can't fix stupid! 100%

[@trueValara]

Me, literally every day: It's sunny, I should start the dishwasher or washing machine now... I'm serious, I only start them when I have a surplus (I installed a display in my house and also get a Notification on my phone) or REALLY need to. I can even do it remotely...

[@stevenpayne769]

Can we connect? What atate are you in?

[@juliodorothal5120]

I live offgrid lol Run 3 12kbtu split ac and airfryer🤓

[@solargoat]

I swear to god all i would need is an airfryer, screw the mini split..... but really... good choise... do you really need a stupid large oven that takes a stupid amount of power to run? I like it....

[@juliodorothal5120]

@wnc817 it all depends off your setup, if you have a big enough inverter why not, run a large unit. I have two inverter, one 110v 3kva (house) and a 220v 3kva ( ac). Solar array is 5.4kw and a 12kw battery If needed we charge from the grid at 25amp. Been living like this three years now.

[@hoodrich902]

@@solargoat i dont live off grid but i have an oven and havent used it for 4 years because the airfyer is much better. Dont need a washer and dryer either 24hr laundry mat 5 mins away.

[@GreyerShade]

My air fryer is literally my best friend now. I got the Duo Crisp so its a pressure cooker too and if it did pizzas too, Id never use an oven again! 😂 🤣

[@billklacks9908]

When anyone elongates the word, “basically” they’re full of shit. I knew he was full of shit when I saw that California pizza box tho

[@JAY1892]

😂

[@solargoat]

That's a damn good pizza...

[@JhourladEstrella]

Everything you mentioned I run on my off-grid solar system costing less than $5k. From the Philippines here.

[@kareemabduljabar9688]

There is also a turbine for about 10k that can create 750kw off 10 mph average winds a month. So off grid is easier then you think.

[@WorBlux]

750kw*hrs a month maybe.... No way a 750kw turbine is under half a million. And the tower needed to stick that thing up were it can actually catch a 10mph average is 50-70k. Small turbines are usually terrible for off-grid, and the moving parts require maintenance. And I doubt the turbine incorporates a charge controller for lithium or an inverter. Equivalent solar panels - 5kw and 5 hrs/day at .25-.30 per watt is $1,500.

[@PInk77W1]

@@WorBlux I have a 400sqft home in the center of Texas I want to go solar But my electric bill is $60. A month How much would it cost to go solar ? Thx

[@WorBlux]

@@PInk77W1 300-400 kw*hrs/month? With a full southern exposure 6-7 400W panels with microinverters should do the trick. Should come in a little under 10k if there's a there's a good run to the panel, and and there's room on the panel. Systems right now are $3/W on the simple side, Anything west of I-35 and south of I-40 in texas is pretty prime for solar.

[@kareemabduljabar9688]

@@WorBlux Small wind turbines used in residential applications typically range in size from 400 watts to 20 kilowatts, depending on the amount of electricity you want to generate. A typical home uses approximately 10,649 kilowatt-hours of electricity per year (about 877 kilowatt-hours per month). I copy and pasted that from Google. With 3.6 m/s winds, the 400W turbine generates 50W. Assuming it runs 24/7/365, the turbine will generate 438 kwH per year. Copy and pasted that as well. I looked into turbines for sale. I saw used commercial sized ones from 7k to 100k. Oldest being 1987 and I saw one from 2006. Pulling serious power too. 20+ meter towers. Then there are smaller ones. I'd have to spend hours researching to talk about the smaller ones. The one I had saw I could not find. So maybe it was a fake site. 750 kw was wrong. And 750 watts per month off one less then 10 meters high isn't possible that I know of. There are smaller ones you can put on your house or shed. Personally I think for off grid solar and wind are a good option. As for photovoltaic power... it's great. On the ground. I would never suggest having it on your roof. This I personally know. I was a roofer for a solar company. They had 3 departments for the solar installation process. Roofing, solar, and battery. If you have panels on your roof. Gauranteed your gonna get a leak. Also you need to make sure which panels you get. There are cheap panels from China that if they even get a small Crack on one part the whole panel is crap. While there are ones the can be badly cracked and still do what they do. Idk if the numbers are the same after. Also solar companies are in my opinion drug dealers. They sell you a product. Then in the end your are solely dependent on them for regular cleaning and maintenance. That cleaning and maintenance will cause faster wear on shingles or tiled roofs. Also I've been on Jobs and the homeowner is blaming the roofing for the leaks. We do our inspections and it's because solar did a crap job on there solar stands. Not a proper seal. Then you have the cleaners. They will damage tile and shingles. They aren't roofers. They have a pressure washer and squeegee. We were constantly fixing there mistakes. Solar on the ground is better and saves you money. You can hose off your panels your self and if something is wrong and need replacing your roof won't have the possibility of being damaged. So you spend maybe 30k. Or more. Because you'll most likely need your whole roof or part re shingled. Which roofing isn't cheap. Or if it's tile your still gonna have shingle underneath the panels and tile on top and around the panels to make it look clean. That depends on the hoa. If your off grid go on the ground. If you can't go on the ground. Don't get solar. That my opinion. There's alot other details I haven't covered. I'm sure your in solar and you know more then me. This is what I googled on turbine to refresh my memory. I was mistaken. But for around the same cost of sure you could do the same. Turbine likely costing more. That's mainly because it's easier to sell solar then turbines these days. Turbines and solar require maintenence. Turbines have variable cutoff speeds and max wind speeds depend on what you have. I'm not an electrician. I'm in plumbing now. Eventually I'll make my way over to electrical. I'd also be very careful on which solar company I'd go for. Because that's gonna be a long term relationship.

[@MooseOnTheLoose99]

I remember my first day on any job ever.

[@solargoat]

Apparently no one is able to watch the full video or read the description, its just a race to the comments to talk about something they don’t actually understand in response to something they didn’t pay attention to.

[@BenedictBenzo]

i got 5kw, am offgrid, payed 15, got 40 kwh lfp, use all of the things you said

[@bradysheridan5931]

4kw solar, off grid, $12.7k,fridge, freezer, deep well pump, etc. etc. Etc. Totally misinformed buddy...

[@solargoat]

Wait… 5kw? So 5,000 watts at 240 volts so 20 amps? I’d love to check out the specs on that set up

[@BenedictBenzo]

on 230 volts (germany) yes.

[@Laurel-Crowned]

If you don't mind me asking, what inverter do you use?

[@Laurel-Crowned]

@@bradysheridan5931 what kind of inverter do you use for your deep well pump?

[@eby6114]

I use 7.5 kw daily. We have two businesses. There's a lot of cooking and refrigeration going on here. Otherwise we are low key. I have 1.5 kw of panels just on my refrigerated box truck. It cost me 3 grand with batteries, inverter etc. Best money I ever spent. I'm positive I can build 15kw for well under 30k. Dual inverters. Off grid. I spent extra money making sure the box truck panels stay put while driving down the road at 70 mph 3/16" aluminum L brackets.

[@stateofoklahomashallnotbei5469]

Yup I'm completely off grid and I have no problem getting power when I want it...FJB

[@kevinn4038]

You are commenting on a Social Media platform. You need to look up the meaning of "off grid".

[@stateofoklahomashallnotbei5469]

@@kevinn4038 what are you talking about I'm self reliant solar system rain catching the only bills I pay Is phone and property taxes I hunt and go to the store because I feel like it .

[@tylorc8184]

@@kevinn4038 he’s talking about buying power from electric companies. Just cause someone lives “off grid” doesn’t mean they don’t use any technology you Buffoon. Most people who go off grid just don’t want to rely on the crappy electric infrastructure in their state.

[@chief5981]

How much did your off grid system cost? ​@@stateofoklahomashallnotbei5469

[@stateofoklahomashallnotbei5469]

@@chief5981 I'm using the ecoflow delta pro system and I'm working on a separate backup battery setup I didn't have any problems at all yet with the other system but I want a backup plan after everything is set and done I'm looking at 15k.

[@alloutofdonuts3998]

I always thought the point of getting people to put solar panels up on their roofs was to basically get consumers to pay to implement a new system, so companies didn’t have to do it for them. Then they can still charge people and act like it’s less but the electric co is basically acting like banks that use you money to make money that they give to the shareholders, and charge you fees 😮😅

[@tutorial5914]

That’s why I keep my nuclear plant in my basement. But you didn’t hear it from me

[@jaybartgis5148]

This is why i don't understand how energy costs work. Every time i Google search "cheapest forms of electricity" it's always "solar and wind by a landslide". Yet if I want to privately set up a system... i would pay 30k and it can't run my oven

[@helenwheels3341]

I'm off grid. Solar all the way

[@shadowslayer7574]

I have my whole living room on bbn panels it's a start

[@PInk77W1]

How big your home ? How much it cost ? I want to go solar But my home is 400sqft And my elec bill is $60 a month

[@SaltySpark]

My dad's got a decent sized wood burner in his backyard. Its hooked up to the heat in the house and garage and to the water for the house. Wood burning, while it may cost some time or money to cut down / buy wood, its still cheaper than filling the propane tank

[@Rodrilechan]

Same!

[@itsdarparp]

You are off grid but have KZbin?

[@Shivanshu25]

My bro getting roasted in the comments like slow roast BBQ pork

[@solargoat]

The only people really laughing are the ones that actually know how to design and install off grid solar systems.

[@jackies35]

@@solargoat Hahahaha!!

[@jackies35]

He gets roasted while his algorithm rises from all these comments. #winning

[@maddhatter3564]

@@solargoat so thats why YOU arent laughing?

[@tylermiller3706]

“No one uses solar panels to go off grid” I stop listen after that🤦🏻‍♂️

[@youtubesucks8632]

He’s right though

[@literallyanangrymoose7717]

@@youtubesucks8632using a solar array is a virtual necessity to go off grid. I'm impressed junior here managed to climb on that roof in one piece with that level of brainpower.

[@Bayliss21]

That's because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about like 99.9% of the public.

[@maddhatter3564]

@@youtubesucks8632 nope the fact that there are thousands that do go offgrid proves him wrong.

[@michelleclark5877]

I'm off grid with family we all have rv's, I have a 38ft foot fifth wheel. We are all doing great with solar and generator, swamp cooler. Chicken coops and family garden. All on a platoe of 46 with 260 degree panoramic views full fun.

[@charlescoult]

Most people just don't know or don't want to bother doing the math. It's feasible if you're smart about it

[@JCcanU]

Read how much it will run to set up a Smart system 100% Solar wind and gas back up your looking at 20,000 or more and 10,000 every 10 years .

[@PInk77W1]

I have a 400sqft home in center of Texas. I want to go solar But my electric bill is $60 a month. $10-15,000 for solar would take 20yrs to pay off

[@thelazygamer3788]

Have a 400kilawat hydro setup in my backyard........

[@yoshuashan6640]

I can get a system of 70kwh a day for $35k even less with the help of the goverment and I only use like 40 kwh a day of power

[@solargoat]

Absolutely! I agree! The problem is the kW output of the systems and how many kW do you use, peak and average.

[@kniefi]

40 kWh a day?! ooof... On average I use 6 - 8 kWh a day! Producing 55 - 60kWh a day with a 10kW peak system is no problem. But we act very energy sensitive in Germany. What kind of stuff would you want to have running to put an 12kW inverter to it's limits?

[@PeterSedesse]

Those people in high school that said ' why do i have to learn math, i am never going to use it'.. this is how they turn out. Living off grid is easy and predictable if you can do basic math. I have everything mentioned and a pretty intense workshop and a walkin cooler.

[@rlicon1970]

Whoa, as bugs bunny would say, "What a moroon."

[@solargoat]

Apparently no one is able to watch the full video or read the description, its just a race to the comments to talk about something they don’t actually understand in response to something they didn’t pay attention to.

[@Ranch321]

A complete 5000w watt off grid system cost about 7,000 with batties that will last 15 years.

[@freeaudiobooks7469]

5000 watts 😆 🤣 😂 😹

[@bluemgt06]

@@freeaudiobooks7469 you do realize you're not using that much constantly right?

[@PInk77W1]

I have a 400sqft home in the center of Texas I want to go solar But my electric bill is $60. A month It would take me 20yrs to pay Back a $15,000. System.

[@Ranch321]

@@PInk77W1 just use more electricity so you save more on your bill. Just think if your bill was $20,000 per month it would pay for its self in no time.

[@PInk77W1]

@@Ranch321 ok

[@johnnypdoesthings]

He’s a little slow guys give him a break

[@solargoat]

Apparently no one is able to watch the full video or read the description, its just a race to the comments to talk about something they don’t actually understand in response to something they didn’t pay attention to.

[@PrescottCaliberClub]

I built a number of off grid systems and have an off grid cabin I run off solar! It’s been great for me.