NO ONE EXPECTED THESE YU-GI-OH CARDS TO BE GOOD!

[@CountofBleck]

"Eva" defenitely comes to mind. Card was thought to be bargin bin filler that wouldnt work in most fairy decks, and then someone combined Drytrons with Heralds and it became a centerpiece in format warping stun decks.

[@Homcomru]

Add to that Thunder of Ruler than can also be used with drytron and Amorphactor dracoverlord for a good old complete turn skip (an unintended one at that since Konami probably never thought cards skipping Main 1 and battle would be used together for a full turn skip). Funny thing too: Djinn releaser of rituals doesn’t even work well with drytron.

[@ryanjohnson3392]

I remember when Eva came out. I was 100% sure some deck would come along at some point and break it

[@WinterGray8888]

SO TRUE ACTUALLY

[@GodzillaFreak]

Actually in like 2018 a world chalice won I think the biggest EU YCS of all time up to that point abusing Eva in world chalice. Madlad would use it to search combo, then add it back with firewall to send with orange light, then add another orange light on the opponent's turn. Brilliant stuff

[@antman7673]

I bought 80x copies of Eva, because the card searches 2x cards upon being send to grave. I considered decorating my wall with EVA as a „sad alien astronaut wallpaper“. The artwork is hilarious.

[@Tokumastu1]

Surprised no one brought up Solemn Judgement. People splept on it when released cause paying half your life points was deemed too steep a cost, but then everyone realized that oh crap this thing is fire.

[@honeyham6788]

the thing is, it's not really "slept on" when it's just not very good in the format it's printed in. MST and Dust Tornado are way better at stopping battle traps as well as Called By. The only it'd be THAT useful against Monster Reborn/Change of Heart specifically, which would necessitate 1-2 copies maybe. But considering it was printed in normal-monster beatdown, and a format where Clown Control thrived, and paying 4k LPs was equivalent to giving your opponent 3 free direct attacks, it was an actual downside. Once Jinzo got printed it actually became relavent specifically in trap-control lists as the only way to stop jinzo from hitting the field, but beyond that, nothing

[@exorphitus]

Yes, exactly. Players then still valued lifepoints at a premium and balked at effects locked behind LP costs. Hence it took awhile to people to figure out that, no, paying half of them to negate any one action was actually game-winningly powerful.

[@jarzz3601]

it was still slept on it was broken way before players finally realised it was@@honeyham6788

[@Tokumastu1]

@@honeyham6788 Not even. On release it was ludicrous and it's something that's been proven when revisiting older formats. Hell it wouldn't be until many expansions down the road that players realized that it was good from day 1. I should know I was there to see it unfold cause I was also one of those players that was skeptical of it at first.

[@turtlesfan44]

@@honeyham6788but didn’t called by come out In flames of destruction? Long after all of these cards were released

[@galladiated]

This is verbatim what the "Danger?" cards were. "Yeah Dangers don't really have a good boss monster, so it's okay to draw that many, just look at Flower Cardians!"

[@ultimatedbz2]

for super poly I feel like that assessment is a LITTLE off the mark. sure it took a while for it to manifest in a playable way but I feel konami always knew the potential this card had. In the anime the entire supreme king arc in gx revolved entirely around super poly and the power it held and I always had a theory that super poly is why it took SO long to get all the omni heros released. Because even if they weren't all bangers the idea of a hero deck being able to run super poly as a removal tool for any of the six attributes was a legit concern that restulted in a drip fed release. we didn't get escurialo til the xyz era for crying out loud

[@lilsunny7399]

But they had to print a field spell in the late 2010s to make it do what it did in the Anime because surprise they printed "Can only be summoned by Dark Fusion" on all the Evil HERO fusion monsters.

[@TheProfesorZ]

You should do one where you discuss moments where yugioh impacted our life's outside of actually playing the game. Kinda like your story with the ash blossoms and the wedding ring.

[@glitchmakerygo]

I passed a Mythology test off of the back of the agents archetype and miscellaneous other cards this year

[@TheProfesorZ]

@@glitchmakerygo OMG my story was actually that I passed a science test back in 4th grade because I remembered that the full moon caused the tide to rise. Due to the episode from the anime where Giant soilder of stone destroyed the moon 🤣

[@glitchmakerygo]

@@TheProfesorZ In Myth, my teacher said something about some guy who apparently didn't like Zeus that much (who wasn't Hades), and this was right after AGOV released so I yelled "TY-PHON?!" and made myself look smarter than I really was. Also only knew the lover of Endymion was the goddess Selene due to Pendulum. Crazy how this game randomly just inserts itself at random, but very convenient times, lmao

[@alonsoarana5307]

I actually memorized a bunch of the Egyptian gods because of Yu-Gi-Oh like Osiris, Ra, Isis, etc., that and The Mummy

[@sunphoenix26]

This game helped me get over a really hard break-up. I’d recite Gumblar lines to myself in my head whenever something reminded me of her.

[@Freebird1994]

I feel like so many link monsters fall into this category because so often it’s just about finding(or Konami eventually creating) the right archetype where the card becomes busted.

[@sparo_splat]

Still remember Firewall Dragon, Yusaku's ace monster, got banned while VRAINS was still airing, it was the funniest shit.

[@MFChanical]

The fact that Appointer was originally considered one of the worst cards in the game by some just comes to show the sheer power behind hand rips

[@luminous3558]

it was also broken way earlier than discovered, shouldve seen more sideboard play the second we were making "out my board or lose" style boards

[@zawarudogaming3961]

I think the hand knowledge was more frustrating than hand rip

[@atroll9996]

I thought it was trash until I remembered you could play it going first

[@K1ngCorvus]

Chef’s kiss on the outro EDIT: or idk maybe its more like a Marvel post credit scene but either way RIP BOZO

[@Kylora2112]

Anthony Bourdain just ripped his shirt off like Hulk Hogan screaming WHERE IS HE!!!

[@Ragnarok540]

Barrier Statue of the Storm Winds. The only barrier statue that finally got banned because it was a very unfair win condition in Floowandereeze and before that, got the Simorgh link monster banned.

[@abdurachmanromzy4778]

Tbh all barrier will eventually get banned at the time they got its consistent searcher and way to hit field quickly Just like storm winds

[@Fellknauel]

Was also ridiculous as part of bird up end boards

[@Ragnarok540]

@@abdurachmanromzy4778 maybe for the earth/fire/water statues, for dark and light they are already really easy to search and summon but no one does it... Since they are the most popular attributes. Specially dark.

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

I feel like that shouldn't count because people knew that the barrier statues were good, it's that they weren't searchable, so they'd play other ways to lock your opponent out of special summoning. So, a meta deck that searched any wind monster as part of the main combo would of course be like "What wind monster could I play? Oh! This Barrier Statue monster, of course!" Like, everyone knew it was good in that specific context, but that specific context wasn't there for quite a while.

[@yamispade]

Barrier Stun has always been a deck as far back as the release of the statues, the problem with them was until we got more stun support they pretty much existed as a niche stun variant that saw limited success.

[@ducky36F]

I remember building the Lyrilisc deck for a friend just because she likes cute birds. Then I realised they were insane pretty quickly 😂

[@moonjelly5]

They have access to some of the most insane cards ever printed (Harpie's Feather Storm, Lyrilusc Bird Call, Zeus, Assembled Nightingale).

[@sekaihunter9378]

@@moonjelly5 Don't forget that they also make summoning Utopic Draco Future as easy as a joke. Not one deck before them can summon that f*cking menace of a card so easily and can still comboing off after that.

[@moonjelly5]

@@sekaihunter9378 Yup. Recital Starling is a soft once per turn. I have won a game by sitting on UDF. Unfortunately, almost every time I summon it, it winds up getting triple tac'd and turned into a Zeus. This once happened to me three games in a row. I even had Crossout set in Game 3 only to realize my opponent banished my Triple Tac with Diablosis. At least I OTKed him in game 2 with Assembled Nightingale.

[@sekaihunter9378]

@moonjelly5 Not having Apex Avian sitting next to it is your skill issue really, buddy. 🗿 But no one can deny that Lyrilusc end board is downright opressive tho. I still have PTSD on the receiving end of a Stormwinds Barrier or infinite negate Apex Avian from times to times.

[@EthanKironus8067]

The number of times Cobalt Sparrow single-handedly won games for me because the opponent didn't hit it before I made Assembled Nightingale is hilarious. You just don't expect things like that most of the time. My favourite part of the archetype is that you only need to slap an equip spell or two on Assembled Nightingale to win games with it alone (my favs were Power of the Guardians and Stoic Challenge). Well, that and being able to proc its protection and then just throw Recital Starling at any opponent's monster. Would Stoic Challenge's damage-doubling apply to the damage Recital Starling reflects? And the newer support makes it absolutely cracked. Celestine Wagtail's search effect makes it good enough already, but the fact that it turns Assembled into a net-neutral repeatable protection for all your on-theme monsters--assuming you only proc it on your opponent's turn--is busted. I'm not even going to ask what possessed Konami to give every Lyrilusc Xyz completely generic material requirements because I'm too busy enjoying the consequences (Snake-Eyes, anyone?).

[@christmas4477]

As a Branded played, I thrive on Super Poly being able to take whatever ED boss monster a meta has going for it and turning it directly into Mirrorjade

[@xatuyou8045]

The best part is you can normal summon albaz, don't use the effect and then immediately activate it before your opponent can do anything.

[@TheLetterJ0]

I recently looked back through my old cards for the first time since I got back into Yugioh. I was surprised to find some really good cards that I never used because my friends and I never realized how good they were. Magical Scientist, Kaiser Colosseum, Cold Wave, Skill Drain, and Rivalry were some of the big ones. (In our defense, this was the DM era, and Musician King was the only target for Scientist that I owned. And we were also just really bad at deckbuilding.)

[@xeladas]

Things I'm surprised weren't mentioned: Solemn Judgement: release 2002 in Metal Raiders it saw next to no play at the time (which is somewhat understandable, as half your life points is quite a lot) that later was discovered to be extremely powerful; becoming something of a staple in many decks (after all, the only LP that matters is the last one), and radically changing Legacy Formats from the decks run before. Butterfly Dagger Elma/Gearfried the Iron Knight: on their own it's hard to see how they would be part of a combo so degenerate it resulted in bans... until you add to the mix any card that cares about activation of Spells, suddenly you have an engine that produces infinite Spell Activations, which in turn can be used to do things like draw your entire deck with Magical Library, gain infinite LP via Spell Absorption (which can become infinite Burn Damage via Flame Princess), and plenty more.

[@yamispade]

Solemn was honestly not worth running when it first came out. Even in Goat format it's a really underwhelming card unless you get it and can win after negating something. It wasn't until later when the game sped up that it became much more menacing to have an omni negate that only cost half your LP to prevent the opponent from catching up or outing something. Vanity's Emptiness is another example of a card being released before a time it could be abused to deny someone with minimal risk to the one using it.

[@giroppa99]

No one expected me to be good either

[@honeyham6788]

but are you good?

[@AtlasNovack]

I wanna hear more about Gavin's dad. Props to that dude for doing activities with his son.

[@chaos_magician6689]

Surprised no one mentioned instant fusion

[@honeyham6788]

Instant Fusion was absolutely good on release as a free-material extender Plus Removal in the form of Restrict. Yeah it became unbelievably broken when Nordin got printed, but it was always very good

[@xatuyou8045]

@@honeyham6788it’s why thousand-eyes got banned. Instant fusion has been getting cards banned since its release.

[@monkeylemur]

Instant Fusion was max copies in a lot of formats. Plant Synchro sometimes played them, Six Sams played them to summon Naturia Beast and Barkion off Fusionist or Karbonala (no joke made some Karbonala like $5 cuz it was rare to find them even by long ago standards), and in Zexal formats, a rank 3-4 turbo tool. That card was like never bad

[@lilsunny7399]

except it's first print was in 2006, so the use in 5Ds was a good 4 years after that. Though i think some monarch brews used it as tribute fodder even back then.@@monkeylemur

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

@@honeyham6788 I think instant fusion banned in tcg. but I wonder if ready fusion be banned at some point? it is similar to instant fusion but?

[@Undrave]

I knew Grinder Golem was something right when it came out. I played it in a Destiny Hero Plasma deck! I loved that deck... 2 Plasma, 2 Grinder Golem, 2 Lava Golem... it felt a bit subversive to play so many high level monsters back then... And I didn't even have Malicious or DDraw to make it extra good!

[@yamispade]

Dark Gaia OTK was a great deck to abuse Grinder in when it first came out.

[@kingawsume]

We really thought Adventure was going to do hot nothing, then remembered you don't need to play an archetype as a cohesive deck to be good. I remember reading the effects on Dracoback and going, "Okay, but you have no repeatable access to this, and it's the deck's only reasonable interaction; what's the end board?"

[@ConnorLockhartYGO]

I definitely remember the early reactions to the Ishizu retrains. I remember the general reaction to them being lukewarm at best, being seen as a bunch of weak gimmicky cards based around a gutted Trap. Then people found out about their synergy with Tearlaments.

[@No_Plays_Hand_Empty]

Even outside of Tears, I was surprised the reaction was so lukewarm to cards that read "mill 10 and get 6 free DD Crows, oh also set a free one sided necrovalley too fuck it why not"

[@fryenchill2817]

@@No_Plays_Hand_Empty Yeah, master duel gave us an opportunity to see that the Ishizus were very strong without tearlaments

[@shawnjavery]

​@@No_Plays_Hand_Empty the problem was always getting them to the gy in the first place. Using something like beatrice or curious to dump it always felt too inconsistent because you're going through all of those hoops for a mill 5 or a shuffle 3 back. They also are not amazing to draw either. Granted tear really deals with all of those problems effortlessly. Before it any deck that could have a consistent 2 to 3 gy triggers off of a mill 5 would have been bricky as hell. Tear now plays like 5 bricks that are just good to mill and not draw and has just enough gas to not have dead hands in the average game.

[@DrAiPatch]

I remember sticking Mines in my Wright deck because i had extra space and i could use to to stall out brick hands...... Then i realized it was winning me games on its own. Like the moment it hit me was at a point in the game where i had everything i needed and though to my self " na i shouldnt play anything Mines has my oppent locked down" after that game i took it out.

[@Dramatic_Gaming]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who brought up Snow. Non-OPT Book of Moon on a body that doesn't lock you into anythingbeing printed in 2016 had me questioning Konami's sanity... then I found out she's not even once per chain so actually trying to stop her from doing her nonsense will just get you laughed at.

[@TonyExists]

King of the Feral Imps, absolutely brutal card with the Tyrant Neptune and also Celtic Guardian format

[@Acidonia150reborn]

Its a Crime outside China its never been Reprinited Higher than a Rare. What other Extra Deck monster can search deck for any monsters of its type.

[@swisschese1323]

I'm convinced king of feral and snake rain are the reasons Konami can't no longer print good reptile archetypes.

[@DeviousHands]

​@@swisschese1323they learned from broadbull; you don't print a good type searcher at generic extra deck level and expect it to not break also konami probably just doesn't have good reptile ideas

[@Acidonia150reborn]

Snake Rain not even good in Pure Reptile based decks. They hate repriniting any Reptile monsters too..Now just give a new reptile hand trap monster they have one already.@@swisschese1323

[@Heroism4499]

does Invoked Cocytus count? DL was designed to have a lower power level than the main game and they decided to give players a Extra Deck Monster that's hard to remove (that can be made using your opponent's resources) at Rare rarity.

[@jayd.doubledubs]

3:08 This plot twist had me shook

[@Bluestar899TCG]

Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon hands down. On release he was okay as the only decks that could take advantage of him were Hopeless Dragon and Disaster Dragon but as time went on he got more and more broken. Between his easy summon condition, powerful effect that enabled swarming with an increasingly high quality card pool and the means to be easily summoned and re summoned to continue board building it's no surprise that he first got limited, then *banned* in the OCG then finally an errata that kneecapped both of his effects to hard once per turns which allowed him to come off the banlist for the first time since 2012. And he is *still* played in some dragon decks to this day, most notably Dragunity and Dragon Link.

[@Dr.AbdoFlaha]

Every Time I see Linkross a voice whispers in my head saying: Have you seen this Combo before. it sound just like Joseph.

[@PipePlazaStudios]

I don't think Unchained was necessarily "undiscovered" in OCG, I think it just has one of the worst matchups imaginable into Maxx C, especially considering the board it makes is not exactly an FTK and it mainly just aims to survive and generate enough followup to kill.

[@fryenchill2817]

Rescue Ace does the exact same thing though? I think they just don't realize the strength of the deck

[@empresscarrie6230]

​@@fryenchill2817lol... rescue ace does a lot that unchained doesn't. they survive much better off Maxx. I love when entitled tcg kiddies think they know a format they've never touched better than people who play it for a living.

[@Penguinstein]

The best part of these videos is watching mbt seethe about musk literally every time. How many months in a row do you need to say ‘Twitter is dying’ before you start to think you could have made a mistake lmaooo

[@BeebMeeb-no2qp]

silence, chud

[@mozata6838]

Upstart Goblin is a common and took nearly a decade to be limited. The applications are obvious now since so many cards smashed together can draw your entire deck, but it's always surprising that players in older formats just never considered free deck thinning as a viable option

[@SkissorMedia]

Upstart Goblin was Limited from beginning of 2003 to beginning of 2005 to semi Limited and got to 3 2007.

[@tyranitararmaldo]

I love how 90% of the chat is about Henry Kissinger finally f-ing off for good haha!

[@nakofan]

Dragon rulers wasnt a surprise. They were just rare but people would only get like 1 dragon ruler per box

[@Quasartist]

It took a long time, and not anywhere near as cracked as some of these other cards, but I think Destiny Hero Plasma is a decent contender for the theme. Basically pack filler up until a couple years ago, and then finally becomes a key component for a very powerful strategy, letting you sit on him for a turn to Skill Drain your opponent's entire board and then tag him out for DPE, arguably the best utility monster at the time since every deck was going out of their way to run some form of jank to be able to fit it in. Plasma has never been bad per se but he definitely waited patiently for his turn in the spotlight and it paid off in spades for a few years. I also think that Upstart Goblin is an interesting contender as well considering when it came out it was just strictly a worse Jar of Greed and Pot of Greed, but then as the game started to really ramp up the speed around 2014 then more and more people started taking advantage because everyone started realizing that a thousand measly life points typically didn't make a difference because many decks either didn't OTK anyways and would have to split their push for game into at least 2 turns anyways, or they had over 9000 (heh) damage on board so they could afford the leeway regardless but also just drawing cards is universally good. Not to be "that guy" but I also saw a lot of potential in Kaiser Colosseum way back in the day too. I wasn't skilled nor coherent enough to take advantage of it but even then when tribute summoning was a thing I knew it had potential. Look at it now. Wild. Also going on the record to tell everybody that I FUCKIN TOLD YALL FIRE KINGS WERE GONNA BE GOOD AND PEOPLE LAUGHED AT ME, NOW THEY'RE GOOD IN THE OCG AND THOSE SAME PEOPLE ARE NETDECKING. I DIDN'T FORGET!

[@dudeguy8686]

Painful Choice has got to be a contender. Your opponent picking what card adds to your hand completely balanced it, right?

[@DrAiPatch]

TBF when it was released nothing in the game had a floating effect and it was very hard to get cards back from the grave. It only became broken when the grave became a 2nd hand.

[@dudeguy8686]

@@DrAiPatch True, the card has just gotten more insane over the years, but it was still op without all the inherent gy effects. All it really took was running 5 similar cards, like Raigeki + Dark Hole, or Monster Reborn + Premature Burial, and it all got crazier with Magician of Faith hanging around. Of course, you're still right, i think most of that was printed after Painful Choice, but even if it was just searching vanillas, the card would be strong. Edit: Just to emphasize, even in the worst case, it can thin the deck by 5 while maintaining card advantage. How long has Upstart Goblin been praised for thinning by 1?

[@bingo36able]

With the last bit of the video, I couldn't help but imagine Mimi doing her goofy disco fan dance over Kissinger's grave.

[@Ecdemaniac]

Im surprised Protos wasn't here, thought to be too difficult to bring out. But if you did you won the game, Then out comes Swordsoul who could search it directly and end on it and he got insta banned.

[@jordanfriedman9647]

I would argue the Tri-Brigade archetype in general. People didn't really see just how consistent it was and never hit the limelight until people realized its synergy with Zoodiac, and then its independent power.

[@geek593]

It wasn't good on its own until Bearbrumm. Before that people were using it as a way to give Lyrilusc combos structure and to abuse Simorgh but that wasn't really beating full power VW and Drytron.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

0:07 was this a reference to elmo? Remember when people thought "Dimension Shifter" was the "just alright, but bad in comparison" to the other promos of the Gold Sarchophagus Mega-Tin (Dark Ruler No More, and Nibiru the Primal Being) ? Now is probably more played than the other 2?

[@frankyquilavafireblast895]

Solemn judgment. Specifically back in the day when people thought paying half your life points wasn’t worth it.

[@syn9669]

I remember people hating on soul charge at first. I started using it the day it dropped, mainly in galaxies with a cyber dragon engine to pump out infinity and felgrand turn 1.

[@dariuspenner2528]

MX Sabre Invoker fits the bill pretty well. Didn’t get completely busted until Zoo format because people actually thought that sinking 2 level 3s to search for a 4 made it fine. The strength of extra deck guys just tutoring for a main deck guy was slept on and has ended up being one of the most common reasons an extra deck monster is banned. I still think MD and the OCG are absolutely insane for bringing the card back too since it’s only getting better with age and was immediately put to use in FTKs

[@xatuyou8045]

The cyber jar ftk was made of a bunch of commons and rares that no one ever had ever heard of: Book of Taiyou, Spell Reproduction, Serial Spell, The Shallow Grave, A Feather of the Phoenix (technically a super but still unheard of) that when put together made any extremely broken combo deck.

[@nnnp634]

This is one of the more confusing threads. Half of the entries are cards which were thought they wouldn't be good on release but actually were (like Unchained or Soul Charge) and the other half cards which really weren't but became powerful later down the line. It's not clearly explained what was expected, I think only 1st category was the subject and yet MBT showed a lot of examples for 2nd.

[@meathir4921]

Why did Fairy Tail - Snow show up? Everyone knew it was nuts from moment 1; it was released in Grass format.

[@drowsyCoffee]

Fucking Super Rejuvenation comes to mind. Outside Dragon Rulers specifically, that card is turbo ass, but in DR it might as well say go +5 or something silly like that

[@TofuofLight]

Wonder magician scythe lock then immediately synchro in barrone 👌🏼

[@adamushu]

I predicted unchained would be insane. A second Aruha on a quick effect that sets a card from deck that summons a monster from deck? Reads like a custom card, insane boost for both consistency and extension. Shayama gave it graveyard recursion the deck desperatly needed. And now they have a link 2 searcher that also functions as a second Muckraker but even less cost. Holy shit and all that is before even considering Wave High King Ceaser. I thought i was going crazy when nobody payed attention.

[@yangyichng5362]

I don't think people play herald of orange light the first few years it was released.

[@slifer875]

gren Majuu da eiza, benten, epidemic eradicator virus and the golden castle deck.

[@xdragoonzero0]

As someone who played Laval Quasar until Rekindling got hit, I can tell you that I have no idea what people who thought Soul Charge was "alright" were smoking, but it should definitely be illegal in all 50 states and Puerto Rico. Rekindling to one, but then let's print generic brand Rekindling. Yeah thanks Konami, you fucked me over and gave everyone else what I already had.

[@gbpakgirl26]

Butterfly Dagger - Elma. Use that one continuous spell that makes your opponent loses LP when you play a spell and NS Gearfried.

[@AvenFallen]

Tsukuyomi for sure. Such a strong card back then and it got ignored for quite some time. In such a slow format the potential or Tsukuyomi was huge, even if nobody realized it.

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

the tyrant neptune unironically can come back now

[@theswarmsquad3606]

shoutout to the guy at the end who said "didn't read, here's sea monster of theseus"

[@baileaf6767]

Killed me with that Henry kissinger bit at the end.

[@xatuyou8045]

Dimension fusion. Even though it was an ultra in ioc, it went under the radar for three years until DDT used it and wasn’t banned for another year.

[@luminous3558]

Card needs good enablers

[@sammydray5919]

Almost like it didn't have good cards to enable it by then lmao

[@RetroYGO]

how did no one mention Royal oppression and Vanity's Emptiness???

[@geek593]

Anyone who read the Unchained cards and thought they were anything other than insane wasn't reading them correctly.

[@philithegamer8265]

Why?

[@silent7159]

Probably due to it's status as a prize card for a while, but Cyber Stein comes to mind

[@MrIsleNFair]

Cmiiw but i remember when R-ace firstly came, ppl (discord dwellers) thought it would be only rogue-tier 3 filler archetype. "Yes set 4 but thats about it". Then further support came out, alongside generic fire support floods, everybody lose them sht. Topping in tier 1 was the peak.

[@SpellboundTutor]

I definitely feel like Dark Strike Fighter (pre-errata) was 100% like this. On release, I definitely felt like no one really cared. Until they really, really, really fucking did and it was banned, like, 2-3 weeks later.

[@HIllowder]

Instant fusion is one of those cards FOR SURE, it had like 2 targets when it was released, and was only good-ish later on in cyber dragon decks when they were getting xyz support. Now its super broken with the amount of targets it has

[@xCorvus7x]

Nah, that was always good; even once Relinquished was banned it was frequently played for free extension. This thread isn't about cards that got better over time but cards that were all along better than people initially thought.

[@JABRIEL251]

I have no clue how anyone could think Linkross wasn't printed to be banned. It was obviously busted imo

[@presidentbutterpudding4025]

always nice to see that mbt is not only a charming internet card game focused personality, but also has good politics.

[@Blizz3112]

Speaking of Dragon Rulers... Super Rejuvenation...

[@KuroeNezumi]

It was in the thread but who knows why he skipped it. Probs because it has only ever been good with dragon rulers and never in anything else? Though a few other cards in the video could fit that description

[@erikreeds3836]

that card was judged fairly for years though, though dragon turbo as a deck may have been underrated a bit pre rulers

[@arjanzweers6542]

What comes to find for me are Instant Fusion, Vanity's Fiend, Chain Strike and the Barrier Statues who were first released in Cyberdark Impact, a pack that is considered to be one of the worst of all time. No one looked at Instant Fusion until Norden was released. Vanity's Fiend ended up as a staple in Monarchs, Chain Strike ended up having a competitive deck build around it, and these days everyone wants all of the Barrier Statues to be banned.

[@Kumdori01]

That Elmo's world intro hit my parent brain hard

[@ghostofkrows]

I blindly stumbled onto the Unchained pack on Master Duels and crafted the deck because it was stupid cheap. Now it's my main with both a Handtrap go first version and a go second Board Breaker version. I am hoping for the support to drop before the ban hammer so I can enjoy it once. Also fingers crossed nothing gets hit because I play D/D/D too.

[@freakyfishguy1692]

The entire Virtual World Archetype better be in here.

[@PatJamma]

I could be misremembering but I think that Mecha Phantom Beast Dracossack and/or Big Eye were released after the Dragon Rulers. Those were also the only good generic Rank 7s at the time so having a board full of big dumb dragons with no protections or relevant on field effects just didn't seem worth it on their own.

[@vladvsplara]

Big eye came out in Galactic overload (before tachyon galaxy) and dracossak came in the same set as the rulers Its just that both of them were expensive secret (big eye spiked in price when the rulers came out)

[@ShikanRaider]

6:03 I was not ready for this.

[@Billy-ot8mk]

Would Magician Souls count? I'm wondering if people just read the Dark Magician part of the effect, and though "Yeah this card's not gonna be good" before SPYRAL happened.

[@marcorodriguez8792]

Magical Scientist just has that face that screams, yup. I'm gonna win

[@JABRIEL251]

LMAO the ending bit on Henry Kissinger was perfect.

[@karetsu889]

Did anyone say Morphtronic Telephon yet? Because no one ever talks about how broken that card really is. It is an FTK machine and we're in a format with only 1 Called By. It is criminally underrated and is absurdly busted.

[@karetsu889]

Like I remember when Telephon was revealed everyone over looked it. Then they read it. Or rather didn't read a part of text that wasn't there. It wasn't OPT and it can target other copies of itself. People saw how easy it was to wombo link OTK with it.

[@Puffzilla777]

I remember thinking Blaster was a nice piece of removal for the Battlin Boxer deck

[@TrevorAllenMD]

Blue Eyes White Dragon literally won the entire world championship.

[@Honest_Mids_Masher]

With a banlist that hit every other competitive deck and support that countered those decks further. It was borderline rigged to win.

[@Straven93]

Didn't vanity's emptiness not see play until dragon ruler format

[@vellarus]

when mystic mine first released no one thought they should be anticipating it being played and should just play around it

[@Billy_Wyatt]

Sometimes some cards get powercreep or go insanely busted as new releases come out. Konami better analyze the entire card pool before printing a card but that's something they don't usually do.

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

for mystic mine I think I know a way. each turn pay half of your lp. 2nd if it gets removed in any way u lose the duel. or something like that so people cant abuse it

[@antonionatale6473]

Now that I'm in bed with a fever, incapable of doing anything else, I just realized the Mbt logo and the Cimo's patreon... now I see the MbussyT😂😂

[@nicholascantisano3366]

Maybe a weird take but piannisimo during zoo format as essentially more copies of my body as a shield? Basically garbage bulk for the melodious deck that could be used in zoo

[@taphy4873]

You know what no one expects? THE SPANISH INQUISITION

[@Zahok1]

Bruh dragonrulers were $11 rares cause they were one per box short prints on release. Konami knew how busted those were.

[@damagedpotato]

last will was the first card that came to mind

[@frankwest5388]

Royal Decree, Skill Drain and every other monster related floodgate trap. Because when those cards released monsters had no effects, besides the occasional float or maybe a removal effect on a flip, so having them negated wasn’t considered good. And special summoning wasn’t a thing outside monster reborn for most decks, until Synchros were released, so preventing those wasn’t good.

[@xCorvus7x]

I think this misses the point of the thread: these floodgates weren't played on release because they actually were not good back then, not because people didn't realise their potential.

[@feltisles]

here from hbomb's latest video. keep up the reactions mbt! all part of the no effort content mill baby

[@DanieTei]

So that bit about Decisive battle of Golganda, was this filmed before or after the most recent Roulette?

[@vaxel0068]

Future fusion was barely playable on release, it was barely jank in cyber dragons to cheese chimeratech overdragon. Turns out, it was painful choice 2.0

[@blankazure217]

Here is one no one had said... upstart goblin. The card came out in 2002 and didn't really see play until sometime after 2012.

[@Kylora2112]

Dire's inserts are *chef's kiss*

[@stephenalston2266]

What is the music at the very end?!?!?!?!?

[@scottiemoseley2116]

I confess i played Mystic Mine in my Raidraptor deck one night at my locals. I did too good that night, and started to hate playing against no interaction because of it. I'm glad it's banned now, but i still feel wrong for putting it in my favorite deck.

[@lilsunny7399]

Return from the different Dimension was far too niche on release. A card from the Pyramid of Light movie pack and a champion pack as its only printings? Clearly anime garbage....then they started printing more and more cards that could banish your own stuff, specifically at the start Bazoo the Soul Eater but as time went on things like Dark Armed Dragon too, suddenly it became "pay half your LP to fill the entire board". Dimension Fusion did the same but Return lasted a lot longer and didn't cost as much later on in the duel, went to limited, then eventually banned in like, the 5Ds era.

[@darktrunks8820]

That outro was out of pocket fr😂😂

[@justsightseeing1]

destruction swords is not at fault but union carrier is. interaction of both card are felt like software bug that in the sense it should be fine to equip the dragon destruction to any dark / dragon monster but giving access to ed lock for any dark /dragon monster and 2 link mat investment is stupid

[@Daniel-ws8ug]

can someone explain the end part idk who henry Kissinger is and a google search gave me nothing except he is a politicion

[@SeraSmiles]

If you're even vaguely aware of America's dick swinging over the entire planet diplomacy then you've heard of his work

[@moonjelly5]

He helped extend the Vietnam War (which led to the drafting of many Americans into that debacle), authorized several major bombing campaigns in Southeast Asia, and then was somehow given a Nobel Peace Prize for ending the war despite the atrocities he committed. Nobody liked him.

[@Xenonfuji]

Former US secretary of state. He's the reason we bombed Cambodia during the Vietnam war. He's a war criminal

[@JABRIEL251]

Don't know if you found out, but he was a Secretary of state whose foreign policy (and war crimes) can be directly link to the destabilization of countries in Central and South America, Southeast Asia, and Africa.

[@mitchellferreira9858]

cant wait for twitter thread to be done and we get facebook threads

[@flapskeygo]

How did no one, not even in de comments, mention dinowrestler pankratops?! Dude came out as an unaseeming common and immediatly was a staple 3 off for every side deck the following formats until its limit to 1.

[@otterfire4712]

If it was immediately a staple 3 of on release then it doesn't fit the criteria. The thread is about cards that weren't seen as valuable at the time until much later. See Neo Spacian Aqua Dolphin.

[@flapskeygo]

@@otterfire4712 true, i just thought of pank because it wasnt slated on release to be so dominant in sides. But it didnt take aslong as others in this list

[@Otzkar]

Pretty disgusting how the media portrays Kissingers death as tragic considering what a pos warcriminal he is