NO ONE Wanted Her to Be Top Tier, Ever....

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We move to one of the faces of Blazblue, finally getting her turn as a top tier. People couldn't stand it... what made Noel Vermillion so good in BBCS2?
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[@NeoBoneGirl]

Dawg that Noel damage was higher than fuckin fatal counter Azrael damage lmao Also I wonder if people new to the scene know that when you said "I *think* this game has the same IB system as GG" means that IB changes frame data, not like Strive IB

[@SolidBren]

Always appreciate the Blazblue competitive history and capabilities of characters from your perspective. Looking forward to more.

[@goldenalpaca3881]

she was top tier half a game then condemned for low tier for the rest of her existence it's pretty sad

[@raiyu2292]

some characters have to be bottom tier no matter what. it's near impossible to balance a very dynamic game like BB in a way where tiers aren't noticeable. noel just happened to land in bottom tier when the series ended

[@RainbowLizardOne]

Imagine getting nerfed so hard they even take away your drip

[@Franko_L_L]

Gotta be one of the worst redesigns out there

[@nelomalkevain4129]

I acually don't mind her redising mostly because she has long hair. It's not as good as the og desing but I still like it.

[@RamixTheRed]

Absolutely HORRENDOUS take

[@nelomalkevain4129]

@@RamixTheRed as I said i prefer the og desing but i like Noel having long hair (best case scenario for me would be her classic oufit without her hat like in her victory pose). I will say this tho, it makes no sense that her outfit in CP has the holsers for her Bolverks conisdering she can summon them with magic

[@pieoverlord]

@@nelomalkevain4129 The redesign is fine but a bit generic, whereas the original was iconic and easily recognised.

[@gengarts3447]

Noel is so fkin cool man I love the pose she does with the guns. She has guns but shes more melee I think thats so sick man

[@GreekShinobi223]

It's actually a fighting style called Gunkata. Sugar Punch made a great video on the subject

[@KatkaDavai]

Noel jB losing to Litchi 2a at 3:03 made me laugh so bad. some things never change even when she's degen

[@Franko_L_L]

Toxic character with one of the best themes in fighting games (Bullet dance 1)

[@mortthepirate6318]

I loved Noel! She felt like a more accessible version of Angel from KOF.

[@deckbuildercassen]

Thank you for this blessing, my Lord. I await your upcoming YT stream with week.

[@AbsoluteZer092]

I'm so glad LK got around to breaching this subject, always love seeing a little BB competitive history. I always found it kind of perplexing how Noel was consistently complained about despite only really being a big big deal in CSII. Couldn't really comprehend it at the time because Blazblue was pretty much my gateway into fighting games so it's nice to have an informed retrospective laid out like this giving context to stuff I witnessed but couldn't make total sense of way back then. Although Noel casually pulling out 4.5k-5k damage everywhere on screen I can recall. even picked her up as a tertiary character just because combos looked fun. And training mode was fun with her lol

[@riakifgc]

Man, I love Continuum Shift. This iteration of the series has such a special place in my heart

[@kabang35]

I'd be interested in a video discussing her evolution. As a Noel main who only really started trying blazblue at central fiction, I'd like to know more about what i was missing and how it lead to her current situation.

[@thirdstrike000000]

Ah yes Noel Vermillion, from top tier to scrub killer.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

Normal characters with overturned tools can be cool, but it's pretty annoying when it's just big damage and fucked-up risk-reward. Love seeing BlazBlue, though, as always.

[@xNachtmahRx]

BB was such a nice series. The visuals and character designs appealed even to us non-anime lovers simply because it struck the nice balance between the modern moe blob + big boba style and the nice older style of anime art. Balancing though...the Arcsys balance memes didn't arise without a reason. From top to bottom or from bottom to top, broken like our pink haired cat lady during her release period...good old times

[@catinacafe7105]

All these years and I didn't know what SKD stood for. Ty LK

[@Dunker401]

“No one wanted this character to be top tier” koe crying in the corner

[@Zeph_1000]

When I tried CF, I tried Noel cause I thought the guns were cool and such, but it felt so hard to learn the game with her. I really wanted to keep at it, but I had a difficult time with her kit and options, and I heard later on about how much she was gutted since CS and it made me lose interest. Made me sad

[@kode-man23]

I’m the opposite, I’ve never had a character click for me the way Noel Has. I’m still new to fighting games so I’m making a point to avoid tier lists. That’s disappointing that she’s apparently bad in CF, but I don’t care, I love her kit so much.

[@deathbringer9893]

cant wait for vanilla hakumen to be made a vid off

[@just_2swift]

Lord spark

[@deathbringer9893]

@@just_2swift hunts his dreams most likely

[@Wolfedge75]

The Eye of the Azure was strong with this one…

[@FA_47]

Where do one find such old match videos? (Or is it just all on yt)

[@LordKnightfgc]

They are all on KZbin. I made a playlist of old sets I've played that I try to use when I do these vids

[@absoul112]

Is her design a moe blob? I liked playing as her (Hazama was still my main) though that might have something to do with her English VA

[@arachnofiend2859]

She is pretty moe blob but every Blazblue design is a who's who of mediocre 00's anime tropes so it's a bit funny holding that against Noelle specifically

[@HellecticMojo]

@@arachnofiend2859 hey man, you can't talk smack of my favorite cyborg kitsune samurai, Hakumen like that.

[@LordKnightfgc]

Don't worry, I take shots at every bb character. It's just Noel's turn this time.

[@ninjaboylamel]

I miss this character so much

[@AresGod0fWar]

My friend told me to get CS Extend back in the day. When I saw the intro movie it was an instant buy. Lol That was the first fighting game I tried that had mechanics like jump cancel, air dash, dash cancelling, etc. I didn’t get it until late and everyone was playing BBCF so I picked that up too. Anyways, I thought Noel was cool. Been my main ever since. My friend hates her. When he fights one he always yells, “I HATE THAT STUPID LITTLE HAT!!!” Lmao

[@LocalJanitor6]

Noel in the cs games was so fun to play

[@Litherain]

Don't even get me started. Still paying taxes for a crime already paid for ages ago. The stigma is still real

[@7r17r1]

Hey don't trash talk my favorite character ! Also pretty sure SKD went for the 214D cross over after d.5C because last round you DP'd after d.5C and 214D is basically one of the few moves that could beat DP (d.4D could also in this version iirc) He tried d.4D a lot later since you blocked the 214D.

[@Student_DBFZ]

8:08 whats this song?

[@kide9747]

And they never let her be good again. Lmaoo

[@RaxorX]

Hands off the panda!

[@byoutifulmonster]

Wait? Ppl hated her OG design?! I fucking love her original design, the new one looks mid as fuck.

[@ironshinobi9384]

Her design is nice

[@Kaizanor]

I like both tbh which is why I'm glad they included both in CF.

[@SoFishtry]

Always a fan of the BB videos.

[@riotowa]

People saying they liked Noel's previous design, naw you just like NOL uniforms 😂

[@sorubro2193]

Never been a BB head but pre CP BB was so bad holy shit

[@lilliangoulston5706]

Watching this makes me wish I could've played BlazBlue in its prime. Now it's hard to get into because everyone is either way better or playing something else. I also picked up BBCF right before the pandemic started, so the experience sucked.

[@SuperUltros]

Which Noel 2D is more cursed, CT or CS2? 😳

[@bojangles1712]

Bro they let Noel be usable in one version of the game out of like 5 or something and she gets a video made about her smh. Litchi been top tier since the word "Blazblue" was first uttered. Just ranting because I played Noel from CT and the one time she was busted was the version I didn't play. T.T

[@strad1024]

arakune video waiting room

[@sargewha1]

I hope you go over CS2 makoto

[@Kinma15]

Me coming from Tekken intially liked Noel even though she's a capo

[@BDDterror]

isn't this the version people thought mu12 was ok but she was ridiculous?

[@RushdownXIX]

I patiently wait on the Video talking about Makoto when she was top tier. lol

[@TyreeseTheAscendedOne]

Least favorite character to fight but at the same time, I kinda had fun.

[@Gor342]

how makoto was the best character in the game having this menace of a character?😂

[@osaka199]

What I get from this is that we should just remove guns from normals altogether.

[@MakotoCamellia]

I played Noel from CT to CS1, then quit the series. Even with her craziness in CS2 I couldn’t go back. They had needed her boxes to the point that couldn’t counter poke anyone in CS1, so neutral strictly became “throw your body at the enemy and hope something good happens before you take too much damage.” In CS2 it’s the same, except the frame data, and damage was so good that that was now a winning strategy. lol I just don’t think it’s a fun one.

[@nemamiah7832]

Hell, I've played the Garbage-Chan since BBCT until BBCP (where I switched to mah boy Kagura and never let go even through BBCF1.0). Honestly, Noel at that point of time was like a... Redemption arc. Especially after being bullied by Tagers for so long. Imagine having half of your attacks as "Projectiles". BBCT was wack af. And SLEEEEDGE was the bane of my existance.

[@SlvrWlf88]

I loved cs1 noel. She sucked but had so much freedom

[@DoctorGalactor]

She's probably the biggest reason I want to get into Blazblue, but I can't stand her voice lmao.

[@jerryvermillion933]

😂 Noel the goat

[@GeseIIschaft]

I wanted her to be top tier. Though I more so wish she was not in the state she currently is now more than anything. My beloved. =[

[@veks934]

I want her to be top tier

[@nelomalkevain4129]

I wanna like Noel I really do, mostly because I like gunslinger characters in fighting games. However between the fact that she has been reduced to a plot device in the story and the fact that I find her one of the most boring characters playstile wise and also one of the most annoying (those high and low profiles are cursed) I really can't bring myself to care and I've even a bit glad she is still paying the price for her warcrimes in CSEX. With all that being said, I'll patiently wiat for the Makoto video

[@FrizzlenillCAN]

Your title's a little ambiguous about which character you're talking about for non-BB players - it may be better to rephrase as "No one wanted Noel to be top tier, ever"

[@catinacafe7105]

Well the point is to leave it open ended so people click on the vid. Kinda like who's that pokemon. Ez to guess if ya know but people who have no clue also want to click thus new people to the channel

[@HellecticMojo]

Why would spelling her name out matter if they aren't BB players? The thumbnail already has picture of Noel. You either know or you don't before the start of the video.

[@FrizzlenillCAN]

@@HellecticMojo Yes but for people who don't know the game, it lets them know a name they can google to determine whether they have interest in the video. Moreover it's just best practices to have the title be representative of the work - the video's chiefly about Noel, rather than the general public's lack of desire for her to be top tier (that plays a much smaller part).

[@HellecticMojo]

@@FrizzlenillCAN why would anyone Google the video's content when they don't know the content and the entire situation can be rectified by just watching the content? What insane asylum escapee is looking at the title of the video, then have just enough apathy to not click the video, but just enough enthusiasm to actually open a new tab and put in a search term? Also googling Noel just gets Christmas stuff anyway. Also, why would any creator want the viewer to have choice in informed engagement when click-baiting is the optimal strategy? What you are complaining about help zero people

[@FrizzlenillCAN]

@@HellecticMojo I guess me? Like, I can only speak from my own perspective and that approach seems much more intuitive to me than watching a video when you don't know what it's about. Perhaps I'm outside the norm or should go to an insane asylum? If a video's title specifies information about its content, it helps me to decide whether to watch it, and I don't really know what other purpose a title has.

[@Mr.Faust3]

screw noel worse blazblue waifu especially after they took away her jacket and beret