so basically, i take it the ratings go as so. Fucking Sucks - can probably get their ass beat by completely normal people Eh? - heavily skilled people, thats it. Superhuman - Well above average and skilled, but ultimately gets their ass handed to them by almost every other character in the series. Approaching Godlike - People who can probably jump god if they really felt like it,but just dont bother Godlike - Basically approaching godlike but they give a shit. Or are just carried by one or two abilities/immortality. Faust - Faust.
@Borealis1099 ай бұрын
Faust
@SirNeewa7 ай бұрын
Faust.
@FuZackWasHere7 ай бұрын
But guilty gear "fcuking sucks" wrecks most other fighting game's heavy hitters 😂 this universe is a mess in the best way possible
@CrusaderRaider7 ай бұрын
Faust
@GunGrave3437 ай бұрын
Faust
@HeavyShores11 ай бұрын
I think the funnier thing would be putting Faust in every tier
@mfrebel783110 ай бұрын
LOL
@scotginger469010 ай бұрын
Bro is in my head.
@Knightgob9 ай бұрын
The power of funny
@potatofarmergyro17207 ай бұрын
@@Knightgob the strongest power of all
@Okami_HD11 ай бұрын
Can't believe you forgot the the very important characters of zako a, zako b, zako c and robo ky II. They are all so pivotal to the series that forgetting them is a crime (they are all in the sucks tier).
@ArtDumbster11 ай бұрын
Robo ky II would be in eh, just because he can imitate everyone
@alfredogamer_br6 ай бұрын
@@ArtDumbster Robo ky II, copy i-no's god mode.
@Iskolya.11 ай бұрын
You're telling me that Obama is stronger than Robert Kyle?!??
@homemovelha417311 ай бұрын
He got the obamehameha
@personal585511 ай бұрын
He's made of obamium
@Shaymin011 ай бұрын
He does have every single nuclear warhead that the United States owns in his closet so that's worth something in power scaling lol
@Beans-do6wc11 ай бұрын
Why is Robert not strong? Is he stupid?
@funniloneliboi11 ай бұрын
@@Beans-do6wcYes. Yes he is.
@gekuul961611 ай бұрын
*Says Goldlewis has the strength of the White House security force* *Puts him below Giovanna, who is a part of the White House security force*
@staiven11 ай бұрын
As a said, slightly arbitrary lol. My rationale was that I had a hard time believing that Goldlewis could overcome Giovanna's super speed, but that's mostly just a guess lol. Also Giovanna had a really good battle with Nago, and Goldlewis doesn't have an impressive feat like that for me to confidently judge where he should go. But yeah, it is very funny when you put it like that lmao.
@javianbrown862711 ай бұрын
That's funny although it doesn't make her necessarily weaker.
@gekuul961611 ай бұрын
@@staiven Yeah I can see the argument for Gio beating Lewis. Personally I do feel like Lewis can do a lot more than what we've seen. But even from what we've seen with his strength and reaction time, on top of the powerful equipment and UMA he has makes me think he would probably beat Gio in a fight.
@lukesterb272010 ай бұрын
@@staiven i mean like he did catch that missile so maybe he is faster than he looks idfk
@didijunior9719 ай бұрын
I've always seen Goldlewis being like some kind of teacher to Gio and realistically, the student tend to surpass the teacher (if the teacher is good of course)
@sageeye125311 ай бұрын
My favorite thing about Chaos is that he’s the most powerful character in the series with limitless magical ability… but he just doesn’t ever bother to try. He chooses to fight with guns so that he doesn’t have to use his immense power on you. Using a gun is him holding back
@jeffreybogard271311 ай бұрын
Guilty gear characters holding back and not using anywhere near their real power is a consistent story element. Sol, Slayer and Dizzy are all characters who could probably murder entire nations if they felt like it, but they don't, so they never do.
@ProfessionalNamielleLewder6910 ай бұрын
@@jeffreybogard2713 Even factors into gameplay. Slayer is chill even when in his knockdown animations. Dizzy's ultimate is actually her trying to _save_ the opponent.
@pen499710 ай бұрын
Even funnier, that gun he's using is a *cheap replica* of some uber powerful gun, just to fuck with you even more, gotta love the guy.
@jeffreybogard271310 ай бұрын
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69Oh I know. Sol, too. His attacks are usually low effort, barely there attacks that nevertheless hit as hard as everyone else. Slayer's whole fighting style is active trolling. He rarely looks like he's hitting you with real force. Potemkin always wears limiters, and he never just punches you. His instant kill reveals that he could casually destroy them whenever he wants just by flexing, and a single, legit punch would be enough to fold almost anyone.
@zhongdonianlan804010 ай бұрын
@@pen4997 Actually (yes, haha nerd emoji), I think his file states that he does have the one of the six uber powerful guns "He only has one of them, the other is a replica". (I mean if he duplicates it like we see in one of his victory animations, it still might be just as powerful)
@meh.9611 ай бұрын
Nago's ability to see everybody's weakness, including Happy Chaos, is too underrated. He is part of the reason they able to beat I-No. Heck he probably know how to kill immortals like Slayer and Raven, considering he is one as well.
@winterflan10 ай бұрын
Baiken also has this ability! It's mentioned in her Strive arcade mode.
@isu152stalin210 ай бұрын
@@winterflan But we dont know if her story mode is canon
@haihuynh877210 ай бұрын
@@isu152stalin2Everyone of them is canon. They happen after the story of Strive. The variations of the dialogues are due to the characters fighting each other multiple times instead of just once.
@Franko_L_L9 ай бұрын
Then again he could see no weakspots on sol
@isu152stalin29 ай бұрын
@@Franko_L_L Because he has no weakspot?
@vampireguy248 ай бұрын
19:19 "I wouldn't be surprised if he had a way to circumvent I-No and Axl's Time Stop" He does, though. Axl goes to the exact tower that Happy Chaos destroys mid-destruction and, while onlooking, sees that Happy Chaos twitches his view over to Axl in literally no time and subsequently dips the fuck out of there. So yes, Happy Chaos living in Creative Mode is entirely accurate.
@HelenaRedgrave5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think he wasn't even affected at all, he just stood still pretending to be frozen in time and only moved his eyes because Drama™.
@granddiety14yt625 ай бұрын
@@HelenaRedgrave Which is entirely in character for Happy Chaos. I completely expected him to just go "Boo!"
@q_qsumohund11 ай бұрын
As a Faust main, I love it how you gave Faust a whole new tier section. This made my day thx
@AquaDogYT11 ай бұрын
SAME
@FoolyFool489 ай бұрын
YO FR THOUGH
@drungaodys56109 ай бұрын
We the Faust mains live to see our character get respected (and 80% of us refuse to play any other character since GG R+/ML)
@thatSillyNeko9 ай бұрын
Well, one cannot simply measure Faust's power since it's a pure chaos.
@tacticalfaith11756 ай бұрын
Everyone else: is strong or weak Faust: Does Faust things
@certifiedroastbeefmaniac11 ай бұрын
when japan was blown up tons of gear energy got dispersed and got absorbed by the people. so the descendants of the survivors inherited this energy hence the superhumanity. its not godlike powers, just the average japanese guy is a mike tyson or something. they are also very resilient, thats why faust got freaked out when may had a cold. people confuse this for their attunement with ki energy which is very unexplained
@aesiro135 ай бұрын
So basically Australium from TF2 but magic and played completely straight, gotcha.
@GameMasterKyroАй бұрын
The whole "ki" thing is actually basically the public explanation for why Justice attacked Japan; they believed that Justice was afraid of this inexplicable and insane potential that Japanese people had. Nobody knew that the actual explanation was that the Universal Will attempted to manifest by mutating the Japanese people into Anti-Matter Gears that would blow up almost instantly. That Man performed a manual override on Justice, who was also currently being affected by the Universal Will, to force her to use Gamma Ray to obliterate the entire region. The survivors contained dormant genetic information of the same type that became activated in REVELATOR.
@wabungusreal11 ай бұрын
i didnt think watching a video of some guy screaming about guilty gear lore 2 and a half years after the final game came out for 20 minutes would seem like 4 minutes but it has and you did pretty good for that
@FryPrime11 ай бұрын
Wait strive is the last one?
@jojak051211 ай бұрын
@@FryPrime no
@trashtyphoon11 ай бұрын
@FryPrime Daisuke said he wants to pass the torch onto someone else after Strive to bring in fresh ideas from new devs.
@FryPrime11 ай бұрын
@@trashtyphoon Ooooh I see. But does he plan on still supervising or letting them be pretty hands-on?
@trashtyphoon11 ай бұрын
@FryPrime forgot what the interview said exactly, but it implied that Daisuke would be taking a step back from handling future games. So someone else would be the director of the game instead of him.
@WinterAyars11 ай бұрын
You're right about the Japanese and you should say it. Jack-O is definitely godlike and somewhere around Justice and for the same reasons, no questions asked. She just... doesn't do anything. Sometimes to the story's great detriment. (See: Ky taking a swing at God I-No because he's "the only one left" with access to either the Flame of Corruption or Scales of Juno. When Jack-O is RIGHT THERE.) Also, you totally could just put every Guilty Gear character into Godlike if you weren't a coward.
@default931411 ай бұрын
I beg to differ on what they said about the japanese. Ki is life energy, and being able to more easily tap onto that means that one would have increased strength, durability, healing and life expctancy
@WinterAyars11 ай бұрын
@@default9314 It's true that it's a powerful ability but i don't think we've seen there's anything special about the Japanese in relation to it. So many of the most powerful ki users are non-Japanese and a bunch of the Japanese characters don't seem to use ki in any particular way. Maybe there's some genetic component or maybe the Japanese had/have more training and knowledge about it but to me all the signs point to it being something people in-universe believe despite it not really being true (or not nearly to that extent). The one thing you can point to in game is their consistently (slightly) higher Guts value, but that could also be explained by them being the survivors of Justice's giga nuke--in other words all the ones with average Guts got killed.
@Tankirb11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the scales of Juno left jacko when she turned into a human. Otherwise sol wouldn't warn her that she's fragile now that she's human
@InfernalEnby11 ай бұрын
@@WinterAyars I think you are absolutely correct with the idea that the association with ki is something believed in universe, as the way that people discuss this within the guilty gear world is very reminiscent of how racialized ideologies are enforced within the real world. Or if there is a greater association, it's most likely contextual or cultural rather than genetic
@WinterAyars11 ай бұрын
@@InfernalEnby Yeah, it reminded me of "race science" ideas, too.
@alphalee714811 ай бұрын
You did forget nagoriyuki is also immortal. Now he admits he could be bested in combat but sol wouldnt be able to kill him per se. Thats why in strive his defeated animation is him just lying down there looking relaxed
@NaoyaYami10 ай бұрын
Haven't playet Strive, but it's sad to hear that a new guy just copied Slayer's iconic attitude when "losing"
@alphalee714810 ай бұрын
@@NaoyaYami id give nagoriyuki a shot, hes a badass character in the story and in the game, though I get what youre saying
@NaoyaYami10 ай бұрын
@@alphalee7148 Of course I was half-joking. Slayer is still the best (he wears a suit, writes haiku AND has Sharon) but I wouldn't be an otaku if I said I dislike the giant katana wielded by a non-japanese character xD
@alphalee714810 ай бұрын
@@NaoyaYami a *blood-sucking* katana mind you. And his mask is dope too. Thats like half the reason I like him lol
@jacobkern20608 ай бұрын
@@NaoyaYami I mean, Nago did learn about dandyism from Slayer
@The_Blazelighter11 ай бұрын
I think that some characters are harder to rank, since while canonical power is pretty high, their combat ability is somewhat lacking. Characters like Faust and Delilah are extremely powerful, but it seems more like their power is a measure of their ability to bend reality rather than defeat foes. And then there's characters who haven't yet reached their potential, such as with Sin or Ramlethal, who have the physical power but don't apply themselves tactically. There's also those characters who aren't particularly powerful, but assert dominance through sheer combat prowess. Characters like Johnny, Baiken, or Ky.
@FitinLizard11 ай бұрын
the thing is, I'm pretty sure if Happy Chaos himself made this tier list it'd look the exact same. including Faust and putting the enigma above godlike. what could be more grand and scarier than the unknown?
@V2ULTRAKill11 ай бұрын
I fear no man But thar.....thing, it scares me
@NaoyaYami10 ай бұрын
@@V2ULTRAKill He's bald after all. May's felt primal fear upon meeting Faust even despite him wearing that bag.
@@aienforge8391bald people AND fighting game doctors
@drummachine7711 ай бұрын
I love the Faust placement because it makes perfect sense. God I love Faust
@lukewarmlani11 ай бұрын
i actually started tweaking from excitement when i saw there was like 3 mins of the video left and Faust still hadn’t been ranked yet. God i love Faust
@l.a.g309810 ай бұрын
Funny you mention that we'll never see Dizzy going all out cuz she's too nice, cuz in a drama CD of an alt universe (caused by I-No screwing around) where Ky dies in the battle of Rome (got ambushed by a Mega-Death gear, he dies of his wounds as Sol shows up), Dizzy (that also got screwed up by I-No) replaces Justice and does a damn good job being a menace! Tho we never really see the end cuz Asuka goes "Heyo fix this keep Ky alive" and I-No works her time magic; Ky stays alive, and we end up in the timeline we know as canon.
@staiven10 ай бұрын
I did read about that, and it certainly is interesting. I didn't go over it in this video because it's an alternate universe, and the circumstances of Dizzy's upbringing in the current Guilty Gear timeline seems to have had an effect on how powerful she is and could be. But it's a great point and I'm glad you brought it up!
@brilliancelovinggear156711 ай бұрын
You forgot Sharon, Slayer's wife. Shes above Slayer, there's got to be a reason he's TERRIFIED of her.
@Oblivionblade2510 ай бұрын
I remember in Xrd Slayer's win quotes against I-no he asked her to "Show her real self" And Sharon got mad and picked a sword and he got scared 🤭
@TheSaival9 ай бұрын
sharon must be some sort of weird immortal being because he feeds on her
@enzoponce18817 ай бұрын
@@TheSaivalwell sharon *is* an immortal due to a literal bug in the universe
@The_medicine_frog5 ай бұрын
Maybe it's a goku and chi-chi type relationship. Except both are immortal beings
@aesiro135 ай бұрын
Honestly, I wish we knew more about Sharon. If you can terrify a literally unkillable combat genius who's more laid back than your average dudebro, you've gotta be stupid powerful.
@AviTheFire11 ай бұрын
I'd argue pot is firmly in Godlike tier as Slayer is *genuinely* afraid of being grabbed by his Heavenly Potemkin Buster in Xrd
@caby20210 ай бұрын
wouldnt you too, be afraid of being shown a heaven you could never go to?
@thosebloodybadgers849910 ай бұрын
The fact that Slayer is kind of afraid of Gabriel is actually nuts, knowing how strong the guy is. And we haven't even seen Gabriel fight even once on-screen. Like, he seems to be a normal-ass dude too, no special Japanese genes, no primordial magical seeds, no Gear cells, no mutations, nothing - just these hands and a nose fit for stabbing.
@NaoyaYami10 ай бұрын
@@thosebloodybadgers8499 Being scared doesn't mean being weaker. Similar with Potemkin - being immortal might actually make things much more unpleasant when confronted with absurd physical strength. That's why it's not so uncommon in anime to see characters being punished by buffing them (usually their mental capacities) just so they can experience their demise for longer.
@thosebloodybadgers849910 ай бұрын
@@NaoyaYami never said he's weaker but it's already a huge commendation when you're powerful enough to make an immortal feel fear
@NaoyaYami10 ай бұрын
@@thosebloodybadgers8499 Or you can just be super weird (i'm talking most degenerate parts of anime fandoms weird).
@DexDavican11 ай бұрын
Jack’O gets depowered into a human at the end of Xrd, so I suspect that one reason she doesn’t do much in Strive is that she’s more vulnerable/killable now. (Or else Sol is being overprotective.)
@TotalHogwash9 ай бұрын
'Power is Nonlinear' Is now going to be my new favorite way to describe characters in fighting games.
@animagamer28 ай бұрын
I love, Love, LOVE how much effort you put into this! Usually, these types of videos do the bare minimum to justify their rankings- "This guy did this thing this one time so they're probably on this level" kinda shit. But this feels like someone who's actually super invested sat down and gave the topic a lot of thought.
@3_14pie10 ай бұрын
i thought happy chaos being "immune...ish" to axl time stuff as actually a thing, since he saw him moving when time should be stopped in the storymode, and knowing him, he probably did that pretending to be frozen just to mess with axl
@staiven10 ай бұрын
It's actually more than just that, Axl was able to speak directly to The Original (who we now know as Happy Chaos) in Guilty Gear Xrd Sign while he was stuck in the future. Happy Chaos even references this in Strive when he tells Axl, "Haven't seen you since 2192" (Guilty Gear takes place in the year 2187). So he's definitely able to experience and perhaps manipulate time in a non-linear way, we just have no idea how it works.
@SlayertheDandyMan11 ай бұрын
As a Faust main in Strive, I agree with the ranking, you simply C̵̡̡̡̦̩̪̲͖͔͙̐̀͋͋͆́̓a̷͎͎̳̱̾̂͑n̷̜̫̫͕͈̬̟͓̂̅͆̎͑͆͒̀̍̅̋̓̕ ̵̰̪̠̼̙̰̙̆̇́n̶̻̘͖̂͆̎͘ǫ̷̰̠͌̏͋̈́̿̀́͆̎́̎̓͝t̶͎̣͕̙̭͙͔̣̘̑̑̇̑̈́͂̉͐͑̑͂̿͜͠͝ͅ ̶̨̠̺̯͉͎̈̈́̈́̄̎̎̐͋̌̇̈́̚͝ū̵̝̐̇̋͑̐͂̾̊̈̌͝n̵̨̝̤͓̫̰̝̜͕̏̀̄͒̊͘͝͠͝d̶͎̯̩͕̀̔ͅè̷̼͖͓͖̺̗̩͌̇̈́͊͋̇̇͊͋͗͘̕͝ṟ̸̨̤̘̲̤͈̭̹̊̿̇̇̃͗̑̃͝s̵̡̲͍̣̹̰̖̠̈́͒̒͂̔͆̍̿͗͂́͐̕ẗ̵̢̢̨̡̙̭̳̩̮̘̖͖̺̖́͑ͅà̶͖̪̞̗̦̮͎͙͎̼͚̫̲̺̽͊̈̔n̴͓̹̏͐̆͂͂̊̾̈́͒̾̀̇͝͝͠d̷̙̪̘̬͉͖͇̈͆̓̊̃̓̔͑̄͂̊͋͝͝ ̷̘̥̞̯̖͓̠͔̩͙͈̾͆͂͜ͅh̸̨͈̯͇͚̮̮̘̜̖̞͔̿͂̑į̶̝͈̰̠͚͕͎̫̟̓̀͐̃̾͛̇̽͛̊͘͠͝m̴̧͍̻̘͉͍̮̤̱̰̈́̓̀̈́̉̅̀͒͒͜͜͠ͅ
@Rainslight11 ай бұрын
As another faust main, I approve this statement
@capsgod494611 ай бұрын
as another faust main, I approve this statement
@guebos365111 ай бұрын
As another faust main, I approve this statement
@jplays33811 ай бұрын
As not a faust main, I approve this statement
@emrld.11 ай бұрын
As another faust statement, I approve this main
@isiacruiz867410 ай бұрын
Im not sure if I agree with you but I recognize that "I realized this question is way more complicated than I first realized but I've put too much time into this to stop" tone of just pure frustration and I sympathize and will like and subscribe to slightly assuage your suffering.
@Vencillis11 ай бұрын
As a Faust Main. Beautiful. Amazing tier list. Best thing I've ever seen.
@HellRider_10 ай бұрын
The "resolution" to the Sol and Asuka rivalry will never not make me mad.
@moosposter11 ай бұрын
I've yet to see any guilty gear tier list that does not have Faust in his own tier, regardless of what the tier list is about
@themugman358311 ай бұрын
Listen man, you're really cool and all and i think this is a great vid. But i will not accept the robo ky slandler.
@randy_random41878 ай бұрын
I will! He should be lower.
@kirboderbo39886 ай бұрын
@@randy_random4187 Robo ky is the most powerful character in fiction
@beanman97604 ай бұрын
@@kirboderbo3988counter point: Faust
@drvonstreusel817111 ай бұрын
babe wake up, peak just dropped
@BIZEB8 ай бұрын
The crescendo into the climax that was Sol vs Asuka was just brilliant. Cathartic for many of us, I'm sure.
@endermah599511 ай бұрын
Oh man I sure can’t wait to see where he ranks Answer but let me turn up the volume first so I can hear more clearly
@staiven11 ай бұрын
yeah, maybe I should have turned it down a bit or put a volume warning there or something LMAO
@endermah599511 ай бұрын
@@staiven it was definitely my favorite part of the vid 😭
@OkOk-np8wp11 ай бұрын
Hey, love the video but I wanna comment on Sol's placing, God I-No directly said that only Sol or the scales of juno could defeat her in Strive's story mode
@staiven11 ай бұрын
You know, I knew that, and I still forgot about it. Just straight up didn't think about that lol. I do think that I-no ""technically"" has stronger powers than Sol, but it's true, she was never winning a fight against Sol lmao, that's my bad.
@dziewiaty11 ай бұрын
I understand is as her saying only Flame of Corruption can hurt her in her god form, commenting on Asuka's impeccable timing, not strength in general. After all, Sol admitted Ky is better than him, and only thing mr Kiske did was Dragon Instal into lose. Fortunately it turned out obamium was another thing that can hurt "god".
@OkOk-np8wp11 ай бұрын
@@staiven Nah it's good, it's a niche line from a story mode that only a small portion of the fanbase actually watched, still a great video though
@meh.9611 ай бұрын
God I-No lost because they have Nago who can see everyone's weakness. Without it, Sol would ran out of battery before Ino herself died. Which is also why she afraid of Flame of Corruption, cos with it, Sol can fight Ino to eternity without losing any power and eventually beat her as well.
@OkOk-np8wp11 ай бұрын
@@meh.96 Which would mean FP Sol is stronger than God I-No
@Caliber9189 ай бұрын
I really wish you had talked about Slayer at least a little because you seemed to just assume everyone knew about him but Strive is my first GG game so I'm not familiar with the lore and I'm sure that applies to a large part of the fanbase as well
@StriderZessei7 ай бұрын
Long story short: Slayer is a nigh-immortal vampire of absurd power. He fights other godlike beings just to ward off boredom, and throughout the series, he is heavily implied to be one of the strongest beings in existence. The only people who one could reasonably assume are stronger are the 'anime BS' characters who can literally manipulate time and/or reality, like Happy Chaos.
@FlackBackTV11 ай бұрын
Baiken deserves to be higher, but not because shes Japanese, but because of her interactions with Nagoriyuki. While arcade mode in Strive is questionably canon, but it does give us a GENERAL idea of character growth and interactions. One of the Arcade Modes that are treated as mostly Canon, though, is Baikens. During Baikens Arcade mode she beats Nago and all that, pretty normal to be honest, but Nago and Baikens special interactions IMPLIES that yes, Baikens arcade mode happened, and not only that but Baiken WON. Nagos statements of "If you teach, I will learn" implies that Nago looks up to Baiken as a teacher, also implying they have some sort of history, and the only time Nago and Baiken have interacted is story. Not only that, but it implies Baiken is generally the stronger of two, confirmed by there second interaction where Baiken tells him that if he wants to learn he must taste defeat. If Baikens Arcade mode is actually canon, as their interactions imply, this means that, according to Nago himself, he CANNOT win against Baiken at this point in time, firmly placing Baiken above Nago. So... yeah.
@travistouchdown910 ай бұрын
Did he use vampire powers? (because he may not have used them, as he did not use against Gio) Or did he just want to train the art of fencing with her, since they are both samurai?
@FlackBackTV10 ай бұрын
@travistouchdown9 He used vampiric abilities, and was on defense because he immediately sensed something off against Baiken. He was so afraid of Baiken that he immediately went into defensive mode because he sensed something about her that made him nervous. Baiken is no Joke.
@travistouchdown910 ай бұрын
@@FlackBackTV Was it in an arcade that's not canon? Because even if there was a fight (the special interaction you mentioned), we can't know exactly how it happened. Rather, Nagoryuki simply wants not to rely on vampire abilities (he is not very happy to be a vampire), but on his fencing skills, so he wants Baiken to teach him fencing (well, let's be honest, she won't teach him vampire abilities).
@FlackBackTV10 ай бұрын
@travistouchdown9 Some arcades are treated differently then others. I said at the beginning that it was arcade anyways at the beginning. For example, Happy Chaos' story clearly isn't Canon, but Bridget has a lot more in it going on and with some implications on how they're feeling and their general thoughts. Like I said in the original post, some hold more water then others (I.e Bridget) The only other time they could've interacted is Arcade, and sense they don't know each other from anywhere else, it is reasonable to assume so, especially because Nago immediately begins treating Baiken as though she were the better of the two. You don't ask someone to teach you if you don't think that they're better then you at whatever they're trying to teach you. Nago, by his own implications, actions, and even admission, sees Baiken as the better of the two.
@travistouchdown910 ай бұрын
@@FlackBackTV Baiken can only train him in fencing. It doesn't fit into your theory. And when could Nago meet Baiken? During the story? No. Before? He was sealed. After? He is not subject to Happy Chaos and Baiken is not Happy Chaos and INO so he would not use vampire abilities. But in order not to rely on vampire powers, he could learn fencing from the same samurai.
@TakyonTommy9 ай бұрын
Randomly got recommended this and I gotta say, you have a GREAT presentation style and are amazing at speaking. You’re so brief and easy to take in and it rules man. Keep it up dude
@novemberbravo61947 ай бұрын
You’re a much braver man than I, although I fully respect the degree to which you own your opinions. I know this will probably get lost in the pile, but thanks for taking the time to put this together, it was a fun watch! I dig your sense of humor : )
@AnaatthiGozo10 ай бұрын
This is my first introduction to Guilty Gear lore madness, good show
@Hamisback11 ай бұрын
Straight up Nago's dialog to baiken is asking her to train him... she is that scary
@404_nowheresnotfound310 ай бұрын
I think he just respects her? I don’t think Baiken could defeat him.
@azaluna213610 ай бұрын
@@404_nowheresnotfound3nago literally says defeating you is still beyond me when fighting her a second time, and that she is his wall to overcome. It's pretty clear that she won
@drungaodys56109 ай бұрын
@@404_nowheresnotfound3baiken WOULD defeat him, just not kill him. But nago would still beat her if it comes down to who lasts longer so yea
@Cashmoneez9 ай бұрын
@@azaluna2136arcade modes are not cannon
@rtxy_truest49857 ай бұрын
@@Cashmoneezwrong
@5q1d8711 ай бұрын
17:03 I agree with everything except Bridget, according to some parts of the lore she's considered to be the best bounty hunter out there AND she has Roger her Teddy bear which GET THIS, is a paracausal being, so I think she'd go somewhere in the top of Superhuman .
@staiven11 ай бұрын
Well, the title of "Best Bounty Hunter" would probably go to Sol, but cheekiness aside, I actually did consider the fact that Bridget is a talented bounty hunter. The thing is, Bridget's bounty hunting is mostly done off-screen, so I don't really have much of a clue how she would stack up in comparison to the rest of the cast. I put her low on the tier list because I couldn't point to moment in the games that proves she belongs anywhere else unfortunately. She could probably go higher if she got more screen time, but my gut feeling tells me she probably wouldn't go much higher than bottom of Superhuman. Could be wrong though Edit: So another commenter pointed out that Bridget actually does have some results from X2 #Reload that I completely glossed over. I-no gave Bridget a fake list of bounties to take down, which included Baiken, Chipp, and Anji. Bridget managed to defeat all of them and turn them in. So yeah, in retrospect, Bridget would probably sit comfortably in Superhuman. Totally my bad, I should have known about that.
@dziewiaty11 ай бұрын
God, I hate Roger so much and belive he is actual devil himself.
@fabricatorzayac11 ай бұрын
Also, aren't Bridget's yoyos part of the sacred treasures?
@Kiporiat10 ай бұрын
@@fabricatorzayacWITH THIS SACRED TREASURE I SUMMON…
@Agent77-InYourWalls10 ай бұрын
@@Kiporiat 6-Rounds Hollow-Point Revolver .44 Magnum YoYo
@Saryuja2611 ай бұрын
Oh my god I thought you were dead. Happy to see you back
@AlberioOrion6 ай бұрын
Staiven, this is the best tier list ever. I've legitimately watched this video around 8 times.
@Modeus.10 ай бұрын
This video is an actual gem that is hidden in the sands of endless YT content.
@pblobrb90219 ай бұрын
Best tier list ever, just because you made it. You should consider this youtube thing a career path
@sneezmireniggity114511 ай бұрын
i wish potemkin got more time to be the absolute brick shit house he is but still being as powerful as he is makes me smile, awesome vid btw, its so cool
@LeFisheboi9 ай бұрын
11:00 5 man train got ran on bedman Robo Ky, Venom, then Ariels and Happy Chaos and then his medical condition.
@ZONECOMPLETE11 ай бұрын
As a Faust main, your solution was a better placement than I even hope for
@painkiller71135 ай бұрын
I think it's the first time I 100% agree with a tier list, cool video.
@DevinatorCSFO10 ай бұрын
Imma agree with you, I'm a Faust main and I practically know nothing about him except the things you said already. He's an absolute mystery, but we can say for sure his magic capabilities are absurd.
@EGE4owo9 ай бұрын
Are you telling me obama fried this rice?
@Nooctae10 ай бұрын
Jam has a few interesting lines out there, especially when characters beat her in Accent Core. Notably, Slayer says to her " Keep practicing. With that technique, you might be able to outdo me one day." which is HIGH fucking praise.
@felisk430411 ай бұрын
I just finished watching your video that I put in the background while doing something else, and I gotta say it was really entertaining! (: The editing and transitions between ideas felt very smooth and well thought out, and the content was more educational and well research then most guilty gear lore analysis videos :P This is the first time I ever see your channel, and I just wanted to tell u how happily suprised I am with what I just watched :D
@Motolmang8 ай бұрын
I still don't fucking understand what was supposed to happen to Faust in Strive we see his soul leave but later in gameplay you can literally see his mini fausts shoving it back into him so is he just like on the brink of a depressive episode death or
@brincandocomasestorias4 ай бұрын
friend, you don't know how difficult it was to find a video that has ALL the guilty gear characters! I know, I know, since I'm new I would only need to know about strive, but honestly, I want to take a look at all the characters in the franchise so, thanks for the video!
@ExtraVictory10 ай бұрын
Tier list is excellent and i couldn't agree more
@ModernAegis9 ай бұрын
Faust does canonically get a win over Zato at the start of Xrd, doesn't he?
@zachzacharewicz11 ай бұрын
As someone who has never played Guilty Gear and found your lore videos, you are my authority on the GG universe. You’ve sold me on this series so well, you should be behind the scenes at Arc Systems to round out the lore and make Happy Chaos even more powerful.
@ParisRosaline18 күн бұрын
21:33 you're misunderstanding Faust, he's more powerful than Happy Chaos because of his cartoon abilities HOWEVER the trade off for that is he can never win.
@momovellia38169 ай бұрын
Well, I don't really care about the tier list itself cause watching you explains how characters powers and xombat style works in a fun way makes it so enjoyable that i tapped the subscribe button hoping for more fun and enjoyable content like this.😆👌
@joaquinvanhouten11 ай бұрын
don't worry. the moment you said President Gabriel scales above Sol, you had my permission to put everyone else anywhere you wanted to.
@youngjames40678 ай бұрын
you may not see this, but i HAVE to say it i absolutely adore your guilty gear videos, you have such a great voice and humor alongside passion for its world and i could easily watch a thousand more GG videos from you or even other unrelated videos in that nature !
@bungusmcgee47129 ай бұрын
just now realized he included the bed but forgot paracelsus
@M0HAK011 ай бұрын
Happy Chaos! Not only do people cry about him in the fgc, but hes literally the most entertaining and strongest antagonist currently in guilty gear. I REALLY HOPE they give us more story soon as he is in the backyard. Im very curious as to what hes gonna do now. Thank you for this video upload!!!!
@dukeofwisdom911811 ай бұрын
Remember he can become a protagonist, supporting cast or antagonist at the drop of a hat consider his intro interaction when he fights himself
@tayyang22655 сағат бұрын
Man! I sure do love the more frequent uploads!
@sir.mannington10 ай бұрын
Sol actually had 3 sacred treasures by Xrd, he got the third one during the canonical pachinko game story.
@Tankirb11 ай бұрын
Pretty good list, here's my notes: Justice should absolutely be higher than ky. As seen in the promotional recap manga ky kiske during the holy order was absolutely dumbfounded by justice's power. Then when justice came back during the tournament (in a weakened form) nearly one shot ky and was only saved by sol badguy. DI sol should be in the same spot as Ino since she thought it was an actual threat that could kill her so much so the plan revolved around baiting asuka into removing DI from sol. Bedman is physically comparable to slayer since they both remove entire limbs from each other. Gabriel states that potemkin would have been able to defeat bedman if he knew what his tricks were. Implying potemkin is comparable to slayer in terms of physical strength, he's just a worse fighter without Regen. I'm assuming that this power is without his limiters since otherwise ramlethal would also scale since she beat potemkin Other than that no real notes. Admittedly even these are debatable Edit: turns out I had more notes Universal will should be higher than sol and ky, she fought sol, ky, and sin all at once and was frankly undamaged. She straight up tanked a 3x attack from sol. Following the logic of bedman being comparable to slayer in terms of physical strength, that should mean that base sol is physically more durable than slayer. But that leads to inconsistencies so it's more likely that bedman was referring to the fact that he couldn't kill sol because of dragon install. Either way bump bedman up a few slots to be closer to slayer.
@staiven11 ай бұрын
This is some good feedback, but I want to touch on the Justice point in particular. If we were talking about Ky DURING THE CRUSADES, then yes, Justice would be stronger. But Ky has grown a lot stronger since the beginning of the franchise, so I'm fairly certain that current Ky would at least be capable of taking down Justice. Whether he'd be able to do it consistently like Sol can is up for debate/interpretation. Other than that, all the other points seem fair to me.
@Tankirb11 ай бұрын
@@staiven ky is definitely a weird one. He goes from getting absolutely getting wrecked by sol to wrecking him just by fighting dirty Logistically holy war justice should be stronger than what she's actually shown. She has 100% of the scales of Juno(the same thing that even a drop of let Ky compete with god I-no) so she should be comparable to god I-no but yet she's still comparable to prime kliff undersn which would mean kliff could beat god-Ino? The only explanation would be that the scales of Juno didn't fully develop. Similar to how Sols dragon install changed over time and became more pronounced. Tldr: you right, you right
@bungusmcgee47129 ай бұрын
i think comparing any character to the xrd fight between slayer and bedman is probably not accurate at all. bedman states that hes using only 8% of his power, and slayer is just always sandbagging for fun ig so i dont think we'll ever see him at full strength.
@isu152stalin29 ай бұрын
@@TankirbWould DI Sol make it any difference against the Universal Will though? Or he would still remain lower but on par with her?
@Tankirb9 ай бұрын
@@isu152stalin2 DI sol should soundly be above the universal will. She basically taunts him with the fact he couldn't because of the information flares. Base sol was still capable of stalling against the universal will via his weapons 20x output, which he didn't get to use but it's charge up was enough to keep her from interrupting Ky and sin. DI should be dramatically stronger than the junkyard dog mk III.
@RyanRamlethal10 ай бұрын
Ram, lore wise, is pretty much tamed in Strive. I doubt she went all out when encountering the bed on the train. She was holding back and was fighting defensively pretty much like Sin did. In Strive, she has become a military officer, a brigadier specifically, of the Illyria force. Considering her being the arcade final boss in Xrd -sign-, she could definitely go even with the bed if she just went all out like an emotionless killing machine as she was back then. In Strive, her personality has grown significantly thanks to her mentors like Bedman and Sin. She no longer has the desire to destroy and annihilate everything and everyone she meets. She now cherishes everything she sees and meets. It cost her a puppy to learn that lesson. I wouldn't say she's weaker now in the story. Rather, she is now more considerate and caring which definitely prevents her from going all out so easily when she's in combat.
@TssXD11 ай бұрын
Was thinking about this last week so this is really good timing great vid dude
@kingcandyhorns11 ай бұрын
I screamed and sob so hard when Robo Ky was sent the bottom tier
@colingaul957911 ай бұрын
As a Faust main, I approve of his placement. Also, dumb idea: which Guilty Gear character would be the best at Guilty Gear?
@Greyman-Gaming10 ай бұрын
Asuka would learn every single detail of Guilty Gear and be the most creative and smartest player. Sol Badguy would use Sol and spam Dp on wake up.
@8bitbreadbox4 ай бұрын
@@Greyman-Gaming Yeah but Asuka's reflexes would still suck ass. It would be Happy Chaos no questions asked. And he would 100% be a Faust main.
@drungaodys56102 ай бұрын
@@8bitbreadboxhappy chaos would NOT pick up Strive faust (no one would) he would instead pick up Xrd Faust on Strive
@boga-tier66099 ай бұрын
Fun fact about Happy’s gun. Only 4-6 exist in the entire multiverse. He ofc wields one of them from that timeline. But if you ask, why does he have two if there are only six? Cause he cloned a perfect duplicate of the og gun. Why? Memes.
@jacobkern2060Ай бұрын
He also only uses the copied one in gameplay, except for Deus Ex Machina
@song8ird4111 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Always puts a smile on my face whenever I see an upload!
@proredfly941011 ай бұрын
whenever you were explaining axl and how theres not really someone better than him i was thinking about ino specifically and then BOOM, there she is. beat character fr (and best theme)
@kaialone11 ай бұрын
The thing about ki is, since it's literally life force, everyone has it to some degree 🤔 We also know the Japanese can get that "disease" that turns them into Gears as a result of Justice fallout, and that disease is tied to ki, too. May's super strength is also said to be relaref to her being Japanese, so I don't think one's gotta be an active ki user for something like this, like for May everything seems like second nature, instead?
@beaneater427711 ай бұрын
Aint the valentines way stronger? I’m pretty sure Sol struggled to beat Ramlethal on his own
@crin752711 ай бұрын
IVE BEEN WAITNG FOR THIS VIDEO FOR SO LONGGGG
@galaxyman702611 ай бұрын
A.B.A's IK in AC+R is the truth door from FMA (which I'm sure is just a thing in alchemy in general). She's probably at least superhuman if IKs are Canonical strength
@Plumo_696 ай бұрын
1:57 GABRIEAL MENTIONED YEEEESSSS!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 WE'RE DONE WITH THE OLD CHARACTERS COMING BACK, NOW IT'S TIME FOR NEW ONES. GABRIEL FOR STRIVE NOW!!!!
@Romanian_user2 ай бұрын
9:34 excuse me, AGAIN?! Thsi is the first video i watched on this channel is there some lore i'm missing?
@rektskrubm8316Ай бұрын
Ramlethal was supposed to be able to declare war on humanity and is SUCH A SHAME that all we got was her, sitting on a ship getting her thirst for blood softened by burgers and then dying the most stupid way, staying on the ground taking an explosion when SHE CAN LITERALLY FLY. why does everyone hold back so much in this series????
@IB_KIT11 ай бұрын
I don't think Happy Chaos is above Axl and Ino simply for the fact that his current state is because he only has half of Ino's powers, something he took because he saw that she would ascend to her god state when he came across her in the backyard (when he was still The Original) and then the UW forcibly merged into him turning him into Happy Chaos. Prior to that, he was still a human man with superb magic ability like Asuka but more extensive due to being the first to discover magic. And even with Ino's powers, the fact that it's hers still puts him below
@shlrup615411 ай бұрын
to that my response would be that he was able to just yoink i-nos power from her like he just took it he mustve been obscenely powerful before that and now he does have half of i-nos power i think his placement is justified
@javianbrown862711 ай бұрын
You really think his magic was more extensive than Asuka earlier on? Cuz he probably developed it more over time. Usually the first version of something you make is the version that can be improved upon the most
@IB_KIT11 ай бұрын
@@shlrup6154 He didn't take all of it though, he was only able to yoink half and she was not in her completed god state yet or even close to it. He saw the state she was in and that if things were to continue (regarding the circumstance of being a magical foci), she would reach godhood. That Ino was nowhere near the level she is now. I don't doubt his powerful magical ability, but again I think he is still below her.
@IB_KIT11 ай бұрын
@@javianbrown8627 Considering he is Asuka's teacher, yes. Also Asuka says himself in the story mode that Chaos has 100 years more experience on him likely referring to how long he spent in the backyard trying to stop the UW.
@lojika1majik11 ай бұрын
I would also like to point out that he has I-No’s power *on top* of what he has already.
@w4ywardlucky4 ай бұрын
I like that no matter what form the content takes nobody knows what to do with Faust he truly is an eldritch horror
@GnomeChompskiGeso11 ай бұрын
I have no strong opinions about this list whatsoever since idk most of the cast, but the editing and jokes all around this video was super entertaining despite my ignorance, great job!!
@BraveFrontierRemeberer9 ай бұрын
the funniest thing here is, now get this Sol, Ky and Sin where in a 3v1 with Ramlethal and she was winning and only lost because before she killed Sol because Elphelt shut her powers off as they can do that to each other so Ramlethal is canonically stronger then Sol, Ky and Sin combined
@minibotas94967 ай бұрын
That would mean the bed is even stronger than those 3 because again, it held it’s own against Baiken, Ram and Sin
@BraveFrontierRemeberer6 ай бұрын
@@minibotas9496 because Bedman? is equal to strength of slayer and at full power when he was alive was stronger then happy chaos
@phareye507911 ай бұрын
I think the most fair way to rank faust would be to put his won tier between superhuman and approaching godlike to be honest
@UmbreonMessiah7 ай бұрын
I feel like we all know deep down that Dizzy is the most powerful character in the series. She just literally *never let's herself fight that hard.* Even *Sol* is terrified of her.
@ajvladmir248111 ай бұрын
One correction, while ky loses in raw strength, in an actual fight ky wins, in the end of the xrd story ky overwhelms sol before he could dragon install and knocks sol on his ass.
@nekofrisk10057 ай бұрын
God imagine being one of the strongest beings (that we know of) and getting your ass kicked by an old man who doesn’t kill you and after they kick your ass they die of old age seconds later, you didn’t just lose to an old man you lost to someone literally opening deaths door
@memesrequired429711 ай бұрын
The way I'd put it is, if happy chaos is in creative mode. Faust has command blocks but only does stupid shit like faster than light horses
@LuaShine5 ай бұрын
this content is just too good. please post more
@Aruezi11 ай бұрын
I feel like Ky should be just above Sol. While Ky doesn't have anywhere near as much raw power as Sol, their Rev2 fight and the conversation around it makes it clear that Ky could have killed him at any time if he was serious about it.
@cansnake11 ай бұрын
It also makes it clear that if Sol was serious about beating Ky, he could just take his headband off. Ky's entire point in that scene is that Sol's request for a serious fair fight isn't possible because if Ky were fighting seriously, he wouldn't fight fair. I-No at the end of Strive story mode says that if Sol still had the flame of corruption he could beat her, but Dragon Install Ky still loses to her. Ky can't give Sol a real fair fight because if Sol Dragon Installs it's over
@zabatasd946111 ай бұрын
Ackshually 🤓 as we can Literally see What Fights God I-no is Ky Using an Incomplete Form Of the Dragon Install, and Ky Still Held Out his Foot against her (With Axl Help), so technically We Still Havent see it Ky At Full Strenght, as he States on Bridget Arcade mode His Body Is slowly turning in one of a Gear, So By That, If Ky had a Fully formed Dragon Install, He could have probably beat I-no 🤓🤓🤓
@magicalscrewup24969 ай бұрын
Well looks like your getting more information to work with for A.B.A!
@Drakenn100Ай бұрын
Dizzy always wins when she battles Ky, she did when they first met and she did recently when they sparred "for fun". She is stronger than Ky while not even trying to hurt him. Just saying.
@hakumenx111 ай бұрын
"Ky is just some random guy" who was chosen by the universe to inherit The Scales of Juno.
@Hostefar11 ай бұрын
i don't know what that means but i'm guessing it means he's pretty special
@dziewiaty11 ай бұрын
Not by universe, but by a guy who was saved by a guy who got made into protagonist by a guy who started all this bs. Ky is not just some random guy, he is the main random guy.
@jacobkern2060Ай бұрын
@@Hostefar He married and had a child with a dragon lady (Dizzy) and got a bit of her godly powers in the process.
@roxolid188 ай бұрын
This right here is some top tier editing
@justxander165610 ай бұрын
There's some people who unironically forget chipp is American
@ThatBoiDinky9 ай бұрын
The Japanese aren't canonically "over powered" they're just considered "super human" by default. At minimum all japanese should go to super human but anything past that has to be looked at so...eh?
@andreadicastro852511 ай бұрын
So, i actually think bed is top 1 in the verse, even putting all my biase aside, just mainly because of feats alone, the reason bedman says that he cant break sol its because most of his dream manipulation powers works through the powers of the backyard, and sol being the flame of corruption its immune to the powers related to the backyard, thats what bedman meant, and overall if we scale him around slayer, bedman without even using dream world was having a tie game with slayer going all out, slayer was basically giving all he had to offer, and bedman was keeping up with him, and 2 seconds after he reveals that all that time he was only using 8% of his power, so yeah, if we scale him around slayer, an 8% power bedman can square up with the strongest in the verse, theres no doubt he is top 1 for me
@JP_KI8 ай бұрын
I don't think the top 3 are in any way debatable. The time manipulators are the most powerful entities in the entire Guilty Gear verse, period. Especially since in Strive Axl can now control his powers so it solidifies the top 3 even more.
@andreadicastro85258 ай бұрын
@@JP_KI though happy chaos explained that people with no ID such as himself and bedman who are demi humans persist between timelines, they are effectly out of the universe equation, so because bedman deleted his ID, wouldnt that mean that even by altering the timeline nothing would change? Like he doesnt exist
@JP_KI8 ай бұрын
@@andreadicastro8525I mean In the current timeline he doesn't exist. He's dead. But even if Bedman doesn't exist in any one timeline at this point he is still bound by the boundaries of the games. And If we are to believe Axl's powers he could just thanos snap the entire franchise. Make it so Guilty Gear never happened. Since he refuses to use his powers we obviously don't know for certain, but it has been eluded to in many occasions that he could be the single most powerful entity in existence with his hax. Stuff like how he was able to overpower the abilities of a literal God I-no in the Strive story with basically no effort supports this for example, but again, no one but Daisuke could confirm his "true" abilities since he can actually never use them. Now, Bedman would obviously win by a landslide if we were to only look at feats or maybe even combat prowess as he went 1 on 1 with someone like Slayer with no issues, but only because the top 3 actually can't show their full powers without some rather large oopsies in the franchise.
@JiroTheFro5 ай бұрын
I already loved the lore explanation videos and this video is just as good. I didn't realize you were actually doing a blazeblue video. You got yourself a new sub cause I am not missing that video
@TopGunn4Hire11 ай бұрын
Honestly you underrated May, not only is she incredibly strong, she's one of the stronger ki users in the series considering her ability to use summoning.
@staiven11 ай бұрын
I think she can definitely go higher once we see more of her. Issue is, it's actually not confirmed if/how she uses Ki, and Ki in of itself isn't very well understood. Once we get more information about those things, I would be much more comfortable placing her higher on the tier list.
@mirkinator222111 ай бұрын
@@staiven But I feel like you had even less info when you placed nago :/ I think it's fair to say that a lot of people in guilty gear point out japanese people being powerful, therefore japanese people are powerful. Especially if you allow a single line about nago calling sol reckless to make him superhuman. Also I would assume the high info density (at least I believe that's how the sickness of all japanese people was explained) would connect pretty well to them having power even unrelated to ki. Note: despite how much I've written I assure you I'm not taking this too seriously, and it was a good video either way lmao
@alphanbuster929211 ай бұрын
@@mirkinator2221 Nago is a vampire, and is as powerful as slayer, existing across timelines, ignoring physics, not being able to die etc.
@Nitosa11 ай бұрын
@@mirkinator2221even if we know less about Nago the info we do know is super relevant to his overall strength. Unlike the Japanese, We know what vampires can generally do and we know fighting toe to toe with Sol puts him at least on the same playground as Sol.
@Nitosa11 ай бұрын
@@mirkinator2221like half of feats or abilities May posseses has either not been explained or we don't know what it has to do with her power.