Wow this modern prevost has a lot of issues uncovered on day 1. Lack of grease is a big problem. Allison transmission problems and prevost updated repair items will effect the budget.
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@pumacat16373 ай бұрын
That’s the fastest I ever seen a bus climb that driveway lol
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj3 ай бұрын
That's the difference in torque between a 2 stroke and 4 stroke diesel engine.
@ibrw3 ай бұрын
I've 97 H3-41 Detroit 60/Allison B500R... and 6 stage Jake. It'll descend that grade at a near crawl (Jake cut out RPM) without touching the brake valve when both Retarder and full Jake are activated. I've owned/operated many D60 semis (and the competitors) for cross-continent service. Like them or not, by far the least expensive and most efficient powerplant for OTR. In terms of the ride and comfort... you'd be hard pressed to find better than Prevost.
@alanpettibone3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that looked like one of those Dubai sand dune climbing videos😂. He was cookin’!
@cmans79tr73 ай бұрын
1:07 To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee: "THAT'S a dipstick!"
@failranch95423 ай бұрын
I wonder how many have had that dipstick wrap around the spinning belts. It’s all I could think of.
@66skate3 ай бұрын
I saw the rag getting close and almost had heart failure.
@lancecooper46463 ай бұрын
@@66skate yeah he definitely ain't a retired motor mech
@Juancheros3 ай бұрын
at 1:08
@BLKMGK42 ай бұрын
Or dragged through dirt :-O
@BLKMGK42 ай бұрын
@@66skate Glad I wasn't the only one to nice - that was terrifying! Get a hand sucked in with it :(
@unmguy20003 ай бұрын
Listening to that turbo with the bus going up the hill....I thought I was listening to "Top Gun" the movie
@cullenevanhall3 ай бұрын
That's my RVs sister bus. I have the H3-45 from that same le bus fleet.
@calgarytek3 ай бұрын
I would love a variant of Ground Force one, a Prevost X45 coach. I hear it's got the same powerplant as the Abrams tank 😂. I would imagine that thing would go airborne once it got to the top of Scott's hill.
@calgarytek3 ай бұрын
Always nice to see something from the 4 stroke world. Thanks for the video!
@georgekaplan64513 ай бұрын
$5k in parts and $10k in labour. That escalated quickly...
@adifferentworld4043 ай бұрын
lol
@jamestsmith45003 ай бұрын
Darn, and I thought my Ford van had a long transmission dipstick !!!!
@SI-lg2vp3 ай бұрын
After watching, owning a bus is way too expensive way to travel. Give lots of room to the bus you are following. It too may need $15,000 of repairs and the owner has not a clue. Bus ownership can exceed the cost of owning a plane. No wonder why RV's stop traveling when the bank account runs out.
@Wayoutthere3 ай бұрын
Correct, that is why i converted a 1980 schoolbus. All the maintenance i can do myself. No complex air ride, fancy electronics or mechanical luxury.
@777jones2 ай бұрын
@@Wayoutthereschools buses are dead simple and strongly built!
@martinharcourt62563 ай бұрын
Front end looks like it was thrown together from existing parts supply, at that time
@theprofessorfate61843 ай бұрын
That's exactly what they did.
@b.hodgkiss38933 ай бұрын
Dipstick in the dirt. Oweeeee
@timwatson38793 ай бұрын
...I think I see a bit more space to put a few more belts on that engine!!!
@greglammers99053 ай бұрын
When you get that trans leak figured out , make sure and check the oil warm with the keypad. way more accurate. If that lower pan is cracked, you can weld it. We had a bus that was on the hoist once and we accidentally let it down on a jack stand and cracked it. I welded it, but the first time we tried welding it it cracked again when it cooled. The second time we after we preheated and welded it we stuck it in our barbecue grill and slowly turned the heat down and then wrapped it in a bunch of blankets. Worked perfect. We had a 2000 h-345 with a series 60 go almost a million miles on the engine. Love the videos
@GinosGarageUSA3 ай бұрын
I love 2 stroke Detroits, but I think the Series 60 is the most reliable engine they ever made. Great design that incorporates a lot from the 2 stroke engines. I would recommend a gear case support kit to be added while you are in there, the block and the gear case tend to leak because of all of the weight of the 50DN hanging out there off it. Early Series 60s (pre 2002) have button adjusters on the rockers and they can come apart. If you are doing an overhead adjustment it’s recommended to replace them with the unitized adjusters. There are a total of 30 adjusters needed.
@jimjoe99453 ай бұрын
Why do they make the air tank drains so inaccessible? Why not cable pulls like semi's have?
@BlackBuzzzard3 ай бұрын
looking forward to seeing you folks getting into those trans issues.
@L-Taraval3 ай бұрын
Series 60 for the win! Great engines!
@donmoore77853 ай бұрын
The questionable things you guys find that others did previously are never ending. Nice looking bus smoothly climbing bus grease monkey mountain.
@Wayoutthere3 ай бұрын
Seeing that flapping rag so close to the belt pulleys gave me ANXIETY...
@carlbernard41973 ай бұрын
Same here! Was waiting for the rag to get snagged and the fella lose a finger or two 😮😮😮😊
@cmans79tr73 ай бұрын
@carlbernard4197 - When I was a teenager (almost 50 years ago) I heard a man with only a thumb on his right hand explaining how he lost his fingers when an alternator belt on a running car caught his hand.
@phildouglas543 ай бұрын
It is great ti hear the estimated costs of parts and labor during a project.
@michaelmcdonald67273 ай бұрын
Hey Scott, great video fixing the bus! I was wondering if you have a washer and dryer in the shop. Your guys clothes sure get dirty! Thanks much for the video.
@kevinhamling19633 ай бұрын
G'day, The bus really made light work of your mountain. Q. This bus seems to have a lot of corrosion on the bottom. Is this normal for this type of bus. ✌️ Peace from Melbourne Australia.
@painmagnet13 ай бұрын
In the Eastern US, they salt the roads in the winter. It can kill a new car in 5 years. So glad they don't do that in the west where I am. We just learn to drive better and our vehicles don't rust.
@patbullard92763 ай бұрын
Surprised to see a Prevost luxury motor coach without Alcoa wheels.
@randallvos3 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing, and previous owner/mechanic just rattle-canned the entire hub, I hate when they do that, just looks bad........
@ewelmo39213 ай бұрын
@@randallvos I'm a coach driver and when you see steel wheels on a Prevost, it means the prior owners wanted the Alcoa rims and got some old steel wheels out of storage. Very common on smaller fleets to see them do that.
@crabbymilton3903 ай бұрын
@@ewelmo3921True but steel is still standard equipment and a lot less cost.
@mistero43 ай бұрын
@@ewelmo3921I’ve done the same, and had it done with me! The studs looked the right length on this one for steelies, though.
@patbullard92763 ай бұрын
@@ewelmo3921 That thought occurred to me. That’s what prompted the comment.
@garyphillips79933 ай бұрын
It may have problems, climbing the hill isn’t one of them 😳 Wow!
@davidbarnsley84863 ай бұрын
What a stupid setup for the steering Who thought it was a good idea to do those stepped tie rod ends 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@LouieLemburg3 ай бұрын
That's how they turn so sharp...
@robertgriffin75693 ай бұрын
Looked like a tornado going up the hill...
@edstanislaw22733 ай бұрын
Outstanding work thanks
@frankbiz3 ай бұрын
To own one of these beautiful coaches is great but one thing is for certain, you have to be in a good position financially to maintain them.
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj3 ай бұрын
Just because the bus is newer you can not assume it is in bettef shape or does not have problems. This bus is still nearing 30 years old and probably has over half a million miles on it. Operators usually remove buses from their fleets when they are worn out and nearing costly repairs. They are not going to do a bunch of work just to sell the bus off and they do minimal repairs prior to fleet phase out. You can not expect a $15,000 bus to be in perfect mechanical condition. When most people purchase a used passenger bus they are at the end of their life for commerical service.
@djdogstar73853 ай бұрын
Kudos for doing it right. Looking forward to the next video.
@cullenevanhall3 ай бұрын
My axle shafts certainly did not have the line down them when I had them out for the inner axle seals
@lookylook5703 ай бұрын
Forging line?
@stuartlaing45443 ай бұрын
At 11.16 Mate I have seen that before, I was doing it by hand, no rattle gun, and stuffed a shoulder but my surgeon did a good job on the repair. My fault it would not budge so I got angry with the big bar and threw my whole weight at it
@cfryback3 ай бұрын
Ah I remember driving the Prevost H341, from an operator's perspective - almost car like. 45 foot long, but has a 42 foot turn radius. We had Detroit's as well, but ours were governed down to 425HP.
@brianhobby45593 ай бұрын
Wow all new rebuilt front end 5 grand in parts 10 in labor yep sounds about right...Cant find a parts bus someplace grab steering parts off of?... you said it was 90s bus surely must be one sitting someplace. IDK new is always better peace of mind is priceless
@beverlymichael58303 ай бұрын
I thought my Chevy Express van had a long dip stick.
@gizmo986323 ай бұрын
I'll never understand the strange arrangement of the air bags on a unit like that. Some high some low ..very close together..
@cmdrdarwin36823 ай бұрын
Wow, was that Prevost submerged in salt water?! What a pile of rust & nasty paint on all the wheels! I hope the owner didn’t pay a premium price for that bus.
@reedmartin66143 ай бұрын
Rust never sleeps.....but most buy and never look underneath....I guess, 'out of sight out of mind'.....
@canyontiger40223 ай бұрын
That bus spent its life in the Salt Lake region. They salt the daylights out of their roads.
@normmcrae11403 ай бұрын
OMG - It's CRAZY that you have to replace the WHOLE front steering rig for ONE Tie Rod End..... You'd think that SOMEBODY made one that was compatible!
@carlbernard41973 ай бұрын
The updated parts are a better design so the manufacturer doesn't want others to keep making the older, weaker design. 😊
@timsinspiration3 ай бұрын
I guess the rust is from Florida salt water in the air?
@timf69163 ай бұрын
Well, nice looking 👀
@theprofessorfate61843 ай бұрын
prevost junk . you can't replace the drag link ball joint? WTF
@shrconstruction3 ай бұрын
A prevost without shiney rims....isnt that some sort of sacrilege? 😁
@madddawg13693 ай бұрын
Clunk in the drive train was 3 tubes of grease and one for the rig operator. Any diff Sparkils we shot 140w270 in it.
@thomaswinacott47853 ай бұрын
The prevosts are renound for bad rusting and as we watched this and seen the weld repairs !
@zburkst29283 ай бұрын
how does he wash his jeans!! 😂
@creativeloafer97923 ай бұрын
I bet they have a separate washing machine for grubbies. Local thrift stores for the grubby resupply.
@dodgeguyz3 ай бұрын
Usually you buy a garage sale or market place machine for cheap for stuff like that!
@laudennn3 ай бұрын
Jonathon doesn't even need to use Q tips in his right ear anymore
@billtodd65093 ай бұрын
Those Tiger Tools are so great. Any shop that says they are too expensive, just doesn't understand the time and energy saved by their mechanics. You people sure do great work.
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj3 ай бұрын
Just because the bus is newer you can not assume it is in bettef shape or does not have problems. This bus is still nearing 30 years old and probably has over half a million miles on it. Operators usually remove buses from their fleets when they are worn out and nearing costly repairs. They are not going to do a bunch of work just to sell the bus off and they do minimal repairs prior to fleet phase out. You can not expect a $15,000 bus to be in perfect mechanical condition. When most people purchase a used passenger bus they are at the end of their life for commerical service.
@larryschmidt9773 ай бұрын
this bus must have come from salt country, it would be nice to know who bought it new
@lancecooper46463 ай бұрын
...after seeing that bus fly up the hill, I'm not so starstruck by the old GM 2 strokes
@FitzArias3 ай бұрын
These H3's are real beauties. And they cook as good as they look. Drove these for a bus company and I know that is a fact.
@bradolsen86293 ай бұрын
What is it with the word Ish that is completely unnecessary
@oby-16073 ай бұрын
All pretty on top but dirty underneath with needed repairs. Just shows the stress all that weight does.
@cajunoneforchrist2 ай бұрын
I can tell your in the eastern part. Bad drought coming
@dodgeguyz3 ай бұрын
For a 97, that looks as rusty underneath as a 50’s or 60’s bus!
@josh67153 ай бұрын
to own a bus you must make sure your account can be body slammed and with a healthy amount of $$ lol
@mennoboon80373 ай бұрын
Good work they didnt do much good on the maintance seemse like
@larryschmidt9773 ай бұрын
you could helicoil those filter bolt holes if stripped
@harveynailbanger3 ай бұрын
One wrong handed stud =wheel anti theft method. Lol...
@orhusky3 ай бұрын
I have that same set in the regular length and really like them
@frankgtrucks2003 ай бұрын
That DDEC IV is very likely the finest diesel engine on the planet.....fight me Scott!! LOL
@crabbymilton3903 ай бұрын
Hard to believe that DETROIT DIESEL is now proprietary. You can only get a DETROIT is if you buy MERCEDES BENZ TOURRIDER. I’m actually a long time CUMMINS stockholder so I hope against hope that PREVOST would offer CUMMINS as an option. This bus still looks pretty sharp.
@etmccaus3 ай бұрын
@@crabbymilton390 I wouldn't hold my breath; they'll likely also continue playing the proprietary game but with Volvo engines.
@deanh71903 ай бұрын
I always use Flex seal for my leaks.🤪
@garysoykin27833 ай бұрын
Hi Scott how is your wife Kelly doing and how is your son also do you guys really dig your apartment and the pool out back is that all working out real good
@mf.earthmvr.3 ай бұрын
What is the value of that older rig?
@madddawg13693 ай бұрын
Reminds me of getting the Newbie of checking the oil on a 12 v 53 in a work over rig. We added 3 gallons Is it didn't leave the yard and gave it 5 gallons if we had to work it.
@lindanadaud96983 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@rhett59143 ай бұрын
Always wondered what the part prices were bags, shocks, bearings, seals, etc. then the labor costs to remove and install. Thinking the knowledge of this would help buyers make better deals on these busses. Just hard cause I don’t want to be in someone’s personnel business. Great video as always.
@fastcoffee98783 ай бұрын
Ooof....some peeps dream.of big houses and expensive cars. I just dream.of a big beautiful cruiser like this
@randytolle67063 ай бұрын
Lug thread issue is "NUTS." Why would someone do that?
@ineverhadthemoney78573 ай бұрын
hello you may like this , to build your work bus pit in side the 2 cargo containers awning inside awning for work in summer months //add more work space in the shop .
@edwardsilva8953 ай бұрын
The cost of owning a coach that hasn't seen needed maintenance 😮
@BusGreaseMonkey3 ай бұрын
Grease is my middle name…. A little bit here and there every now and then can save you a lot of money! 💰
@sjman60643 ай бұрын
I can understand painting the wheel but, DO NOT paint the lug nuts!
@brandonmcclure26713 ай бұрын
I love to hear the turbo in them 60 series Detroit. It just does something to me. Not like a 60 Series u can't bet them.
@stevewesley81873 ай бұрын
Attack of the Grease Worm on the steering linkage ..........
@billjenkins6873 ай бұрын
What's a no so?
@208miuwu3 ай бұрын
I was worried his rag was going to get caught up in those belts at first.
@TheBeingReal3 ай бұрын
So close to being sucked into that engine by that rag.
@chuckschillingvideos3 ай бұрын
That's not a dipstick. That's a dipstring!
@Bugsy033329 күн бұрын
What is the cost of these repairs ? 15-25 k ?
@BusGreaseMonkey29 күн бұрын
In that upper ballpark
@bnelson313braveheart3 ай бұрын
Aaahhh…the joy of bus ownership❤
@ibrw3 ай бұрын
There is recall/bulletin RE: rear structure
@freebird1ification3 ай бұрын
so labor cost is double the cost of parts
@BusGreaseMonkey3 ай бұрын
Some things are way more labor than parts. Oil pan gasket is $50 way more labor than parts. Oil line leak is 4 hrs labor and $2 parts.
@mfc45913 ай бұрын
There is always that one !
@PaulWannenburg3 ай бұрын
Diff drainings look troubling
@gavinferguson3 ай бұрын
Rusty
@williamholland91123 ай бұрын
what was the part/equipment you were letting the air out of at 6:05 you did not explain what it was.
@BusGreaseMonkey3 ай бұрын
Draining air tanks of moisture
@williamholland91123 ай бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey thanks, I am learning so much from your channel. I am going topurchase a bus one day soon but I want to know what I am getting into as far as cost and maint.
@SBrown-ov9lz3 ай бұрын
It is the beginning of tests!
@lloydrobinson70813 ай бұрын
keep the clips coming
@timf69163 ай бұрын
Nice
@thomashayes89613 ай бұрын
Ouch
@vincenzostagliano50113 ай бұрын
Thought you guy’s only did old buses?
@BusGreaseMonkey3 ай бұрын
It’s over 25 years old…. It’s not a new bus
@vincenzostagliano50113 ай бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey just for curiosity? Is there a age range you guys fix and do you only do Detroits ?
@CanizaM3 ай бұрын
@@vincenzostagliano5011 looking at the other videos, I've seen Cummins on here but no import stuff.
@dth2brny1213 ай бұрын
There were other buses done before which had the Series 60, including a Scenicruiser that was repowered with a Series 60.
@kdmq3 ай бұрын
I heard they put left hand threads on the driver wheel and right hand threads on the passenger wheel because it helps keep the lug nuts from loosening themselves? Does someone know the exact physics or, at least, the phyical terminology behind what is happening there? I would love to learn about this.
@rogerreames70793 ай бұрын
Good job
@MrPhotodoc3 ай бұрын
Something tells me vintage bus owners are lucky they found these guys. Great content.