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No Such Thing As Unconditioned Mind

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11 жыл бұрын

UG Krishnamurti
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@bittugym8282
@bittugym8282 6 жыл бұрын
ug was the real Indian lion
@bittugym8282
@bittugym8282 6 жыл бұрын
ug is the great Indian
@inderpreetsingh2908
@inderpreetsingh2908 8 ай бұрын
He was digested by that country
@waedjradi
@waedjradi 2 ай бұрын
The only human being to have ever figured itself out
@sivagnanams2293
@sivagnanams2293 4 жыл бұрын
Really his speech is very near to reality. I want his speech in these videos should be Writen in bottom running words to understand his Speech thouroghly.Thankyou.
@vinodkad6511
@vinodkad6511 4 жыл бұрын
he is exactly speaking the language of upanishads....his words are atomic electrical fire pure fire....like those written in Ashtavakar Gita ....
@dbzfan2487
@dbzfan2487 2 жыл бұрын
All great thinkers/philosophers/dharshnic in the end came to same conclusion.. Weather you take jk, osho, ug, upanishads etc. The only difference is the way they present it
@krissifadwa
@krissifadwa 27 күн бұрын
A reaction due to another reaction. "We" are not real. "We" are just puppets reacting, over and over. "We" can't be real, because there's no such thing as "you" dying or being born. U.G. had a tremendously clear mind to have understood this, which is VERY simple. I'm still blown away by it and have been reading, listening and watching him for over a decade.
@nightwatchman7482
@nightwatchman7482 2 жыл бұрын
UG and Bob - A match made in heaven!
@ferdinandalexander8053
@ferdinandalexander8053 11 жыл бұрын
Empty words. A mess of semantics. Even what I've written here. Just words and more words. What is "IS"? What is "awareness"? What is an "object", a "subject"? Just words. Self awareness? What is "self"? Just another word. What is attention? Who gives it? And where? And when? All fiction throughout!
@sudarshanseshadri2144
@sudarshanseshadri2144 4 жыл бұрын
You can't separate the response from the stimulus. The value system put into us is interfering into each response of the body to the present situation and trying to fit the body's response into the value that is once again put into us (memory). All along our lives repeating the values has fortified the memory and hence has created a secondary thought movement parallel but interfering to the primary body's thought movement (unitary stimulus response movement). So any word even the most basic verbs adverbs adjectives are nothing but part of the value system let alone the degree quality have havenots right and wrongs. It's like if we do something that disturbs the natural rhythm of the body because the body does something and doesn't do anything and it's a random set of frames that happens but the demand to do is forcing it to keep doing all the time and that is the secondary movement.
@binra3788
@binra3788 2 жыл бұрын
If you say so! You have your reward or result. While this serves meaning you explore it. There is not a 'you' separate from a tension that generates a self-consciousness. But the Field of which a tension serves to self-differentiate is the I Am never spoken - that speaks all things. You can release word-fictions to let 'what is' move you - not in time and space, but in awareness of inherence. What you give is the measure of your receiving. The capacity to give a false witness or word, is the capacity to distort our receiving so as to operate within a falsely limited distortion of giving. What would a true word be? I ask that the Universe answers - not to the mind of a blocking signal.
@ferdinandalexander8053
@ferdinandalexander8053 2 жыл бұрын
@@binra3788 Life is always, always, always, what It is to Itself. In order to speak of what is true, real, valid, one must start with What-Is, as It is already so, already Fact. Not the words. All words are off. All doesn't need the word all to be All. Truth is true because It is all that truly Is. The word is means, existing present, having being. To Reality there are no words at all. If It was a word then It would be yet another concept, not the actual, not what really is or what is Reality.
@ferdinandalexander8053
@ferdinandalexander8053 11 жыл бұрын
It it is "sensed" then it is then interpreted and just because you seem to interpret it as something you call "being" does not mean a thing at all. It's all semantics and interpretation. You're interpreting through leanred knowledge and nothing more. You can't even grasp how much has been put in you from the impact of society, education, culture, generations of human thinking, etc.
@ferdinandalexander8053
@ferdinandalexander8053 2 жыл бұрын
@@beejumittahb8527 In order to speak of what is true, real, valid one but start with What-Is, indeed as What-Is. What-Is, Reality, Truth, is true to Itself only, has no reliance on words. All doesn't need the word all to be All. "Who is this so-called one that would illuminate what-is-not?" This never occurs. What-is-not is-not, non-existent, not present to illuminate. There Is only Is. Not the word, the stuff the word attempts to represent. There is no "we" at all. Truth, Infinite Reality, the Alone One, the Sole Self, is already at Itself, cannot make further contact with Itself. It is Now, the Present, literally.
@bittugym8282
@bittugym8282 6 жыл бұрын
guru is like ug
@twiggie7834
@twiggie7834 11 жыл бұрын
clicked "like" before watch it cuz the title is overwhelming to me, ha.
@nickharrison3748
@nickharrison3748 Жыл бұрын
what is outside is unknown and unknowable. this unknowable is furnishing a disturbance in your 'mind pond' and you sense something is there
@livingcircle
@livingcircle 11 жыл бұрын
The 'thing' is the object. The object implies a subject. The subjective sense is an imagination conditioned by the object. The first object is a sense of self in concept, from which a world seems to arise. To that which believes itself in it, this is not Self Awareness - but is an interpreted, filtered distortion of Self Awareness, a seeming death. But as attention/identification is released in awakening from self concept, only Self-Awareness abides - and IS all that was truly perfectly present.
@idote8243
@idote8243 4 жыл бұрын
u.g keeps saying he didnt come into his true being due to his past experiences and that it has no usefulness but i feel he got himself to be in perfect harmony with the value system and also his persistence in finding an answer led him to having the question for him getting dropped. so only way to not be in conflict with society is to be straight with yourself so after 7 years of u.g listening to j.krishnamurthi he questioned himself of why he allow himself to be fooled like that and the 'calamity' follows next
@ferdinandalexander8053
@ferdinandalexander8053 11 жыл бұрын
Empty words and phrases and total speculation. Words and experiences don't have to mean what you interpret them to mean. You can describe all you want and endlessly so, that doesn't make it actual, factual, reality, truth or whatever you wish to label it.
@ferdinandalexander8053
@ferdinandalexander8053 2 жыл бұрын
@@beejumittahb8527 There can be but one All, one Infinity, one One, hence there is but one Mind, that being Infinite Mind, the only One that actually IS. The All-ness of All leaves no otherness at all, thus, no "rest of us," no UG, no other at all.
@ferdinandalexander8053
@ferdinandalexander8053 2 жыл бұрын
@@beejumittahb8527 There is but one All, one Infinity, hence, one Self, and this Self that actually Is, is all that Is. There are no lesser or greater selves. "We"are not here. There is no negation in Reality, (there is no "in" because there is no inside to all) so the term in is used loosely here. To Pure Now, Pure Presence, (not the words) what is actually here now, what is present, what really Is, nothing as happened, not even Now has been before. It's entirely history-less, pure, indeed Purity Itself. - If one is going to speak of what is true, real, valid, one must start with What-Is - the word "is" means, present, existing, having being. Life is the one here living, Consciousness is the one here being conscious. A body appearing with a label titled beejum or ferdinand is not the one being alive as Live, not the one being Consciousness, only Consciousness is conscious, only Life is alive, and It is utterly indivisible, allowing for no otherness at all. It may seem there is a little "you" to argue but this so-called you has no basis in Reality, in Truth, thus is nothing but an assumption a supposition, having no presence, no boringness, no existence. No one is here trying to convince another as to the Is-ness of Is or the Now-ness of Now.
@i6g7f
@i6g7f Жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@bittugym8282
@bittugym8282 6 жыл бұрын
ug is the real for bodybuilder
@maharsan4441
@maharsan4441 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@bittugym8282
@bittugym8282 6 жыл бұрын
ug is the only for ug not for 4 g
@livingcircle
@livingcircle 11 жыл бұрын
Seeming is indeed possible to describe and endlessly so - it would seem. Is - cannot be described. If you want to get 'ultimate' then you know there is nothing CAN be said by the stark absence of any possibility of knowing! Yet THIS ITSELF KNOWING IS. IT's perspective is entirely within Itself. There is nothing outside It. It is all there is where you/world appear to be, but concept of self as society - redefines all things in its own image. Try sharing.
@binra3788
@binra3788 2 жыл бұрын
@@beejumittahb8527 Thankyou and yes.
@satyaramc
@satyaramc 4 жыл бұрын
Some people make complicated things simple.....some others make simple things highly complicated.....i would prefer the former.
@ugktv
@ugktv 4 жыл бұрын
It's both and neither, also none of the above. Thanks for sharing. Smile!
@binra3788
@binra3788 2 жыл бұрын
The ego of mind runs as a highly complex expression of conflicts and confusions to the point of appearing self-evident to itself and world. In its frame a simplicity operates as a de facto presumption running unquestioned, while its conflicts can be suppressed or repackaged to apply to 'other' people so as to preserve a sense of self-simplicity that 'others' lack. Of course you make a point that is valid for your own terms. I prefer to give the focus to a discernment that makes simple what is resonant and relevant to the need of the moment, rather than to judge the people. the belief I already know can and will operate against seeing and hearing, and so if I am willing to know, I have a basis to accept without prejudice, so that the spirit of discernment can reveal what my thinking is liable to conceal. This is giving over to God what belongs there instead of running my own show to then suffer my own ignorance as at the hand of 'others'.
@piratedgenes
@piratedgenes 2 жыл бұрын
But, are simplicity and complexity not also concepts born out of thought, passed on by conditioning/language? Things aren't simple or complex, they just are. It is only in our interpretation, in the process of 'understanding' that we label things as such and such to fit in our our preexisting linguistic framework.
@Rent-A-Mind
@Rent-A-Mind 2 ай бұрын
[I won’t give it a name]
@VenusLover17
@VenusLover17 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@aksharma4304
@aksharma4304 3 жыл бұрын
Happy thoughts...
@bittugym8282
@bittugym8282 6 жыл бұрын
like arny and sly and for me
@livingcircle
@livingcircle 11 жыл бұрын
Well of course all and any words can be seen as 'words'. But to feel for what they point towards is to be willing to shift from a mental interpretive identification, as an awakening to All That Is. I suggest the key here is that you feel no relationship and so merely dismiss. But is, Is and cannot BE gainsaid except in jest. But FACT of BEING can be in a sense disregarded by fixation upon object/thoughts to awareness that Is in such wise as to identify them as 'self' and 'not self'. Fiction-Yes!
@ElenaAvSpirit
@ElenaAvSpirit Жыл бұрын
All is images...
@livingcircle
@livingcircle 11 жыл бұрын
Of course the meaning that YOU receive is perfectly YOUR freedom to accept. I cannot FORCE meaning and indeed have no such desire or intent or capacity! Truth is already true and ONLY truth is true - so we do not have any true basis on which to 'argue' about it. Words can never CONTAIN or DEFINE truth and never will. But that which can be used for making illusion can also be used to dispel illusion. It is simply a matter of active purpose. You haven't engaged with me or anything I invited.
@gautamraj6911
@gautamraj6911 9 жыл бұрын
body is made up of cells, so how is it that the body has memory? new cells are being formed and old ones being thrown out, so are these old cells passing on memories to new cells before they wear out?
@ranjeetdogra7356
@ranjeetdogra7356 9 жыл бұрын
Gautam Raj your body parts like nose, eyes, ear,hair etc which resembles like your father, grandfather or forefathers that means your body has memory.........new cells are new only in the terms of things by which they made up but they carry same characteristics as previous ones...
@thinleydolma8292
@thinleydolma8292 9 жыл бұрын
Gautam Raj how old cell go out and new come in ? becoz of memory u stupid.
@binra3788
@binra3788 2 жыл бұрын
The nature of cells is not as locked down as is taught (and accepted). Water of life is not merely symbol. The memory is not IN the cell, but the cell is a translation of energetic information. Energetic resonances are at the nature of the patterning of life in expression. Memory is stored presently. As such it is never 'past' but serves process of development as time and timings.
@MrSemu99
@MrSemu99 11 жыл бұрын
thanks for uploading :)
@yokeboonfong4565
@yokeboonfong4565 5 жыл бұрын
UG a pacceca Buddha?
@ugktv
@ugktv 5 жыл бұрын
Paccekabuddha
@farrider3339
@farrider3339 4 жыл бұрын
No - he talks .•°
@kanumurisivasatish9295
@kanumurisivasatish9295 2 жыл бұрын
Charvaka philosophy?
@dbzfan2487
@dbzfan2487 2 жыл бұрын
Nah non duality with no empathy
@mushtakmossa2232
@mushtakmossa2232 Жыл бұрын
I don't think ug's philosophy is charavaka, bcoz charavaka philosophy is based on athiesm. UG is neither a thiest nor an athiest. I think he always telling people to live like any other organism living on this planet.
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