9F Loco 5" Gauge - Part 82 Regulator Valve Complete

Problems, re-work and re-design....

[@GoCreatehms]

At times it seems nothing is straight forward and an ever increasing amount of time is needed to complete the task. Very nicely done, a testament to your commitment and patients,. Enjoyed the video.

[@no23mk2]

Thanks Nigel. Absolutely right - never as straight forward as it seems. The big, highly visible parts seem to roll along at a reasonable pace, but the small detail work really takes a lot of time. The Devils in the detail as they say! Lion is looking superb - your attention to detail is second to none! Cheers Craig

[@grahamdavies22]

Perfect timing Craig, 30” of snow dumped itself on us in the last 30 hrs, I was going crazy shoveling snow. Then your latest installment arrived, and all’s well with the world again. 🥶❄️🗽😁👍

[@no23mk2]

Cheers Graham, and here am I complaining about the 4-5" of snow that fell yesterday! 😂

[@chiefauditor1683]

My casting arrived today for a 2-8-2 Beyer Peacock loco. Watched your videos for a long time and i've now built a large stationary engine and a stack of rolling stock. Now time to build a loco. In my pacific loco I use a ball valve with Teflon seats in the smokebox. The original design leaked and was overly complex. Very common in Australia.

[@no23mk2]

Enjoy your project! If my regulator leaks I will change it for a v-notch type ball valve which offer a more controlled release of steam. Cheers Craig.

[@RailPreserver2K]

I must say This truly is a very fascinating series and in a way it kind of gives you an idea of how they would have built the real thing if I'm not mistaken either way keep up the good work with this because I'm really looking forward to seeing the finished product

[@no23mk2]

Thank you, pleased that you're enjoying it.

[@AllenORourke1954]

Great solution to the problem Craig, I hope it works ok for you mate...

[@no23mk2]

Cheers Allen - I hope so too!

[@masterpiecesinminiature8299]

Hi Craig, Great videos and very useful content to the model engineer. I have been watching on TV so not previously subscribed, but am now getting the hang of youtube on phone and PC. I along with others are looking forward to future videos. We did once meet briefly at Blackgates Engineers. Hope to catch up with you again sometime if you are still at your old club. Best Wishes. Andy G.

[@no23mk2]

Hi Andy, Thanks for your kind words. Yes I remember meeting you in Blackgates. I have recently acquired a speedy and I'm slowly in the process of adding some details. That's when I found your channel and subscribed! I've not done too much over the last two years as my time has been spent renovating a house and then moving to it. I should hopefully get back in the shed in the coming months and I'll post an update. Cheers Craig

[@squeaksvids5886]

@@no23mk2 I’ve been wondering why we’ve not had any videos for over a year. Shall look forward to seeing you restart working on it.

[@squeaksvids5886]

Looking fantastic, can’t wait to see her in steam. Thanks.

[@no23mk2]

Cheers Paul, me neither ;-)

[@davegower6919]

Excellent work there and I'm glad you sorted the problem out.

[@no23mk2]

Thanks Dave - so am I ! A right pain in the proverbials this one was!

[@stevetaylor5933]

Good evening, I've been waiting patiently for a new video, hope all is well, your work is awesome 👍

[@no23mk2]

All is well thanks. I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@theburrell4626]

Hope your well Craig! Can’t wait for your next video

[@no23mk2]

Cheers Robert, All is well - We have been busy with a house renovation and move so little 9F work done. Normal service will resume in due course.

[@squeaksvids5886]

@@no23mk2 That’ll explain why we’ve not seen anything. Was wondering if someone bad had happened with all this COVID. Glad to know all is well and will look forward to a new video.

[@theburrell4626]

@@squeaksvids5886 can’t wait till he starts agin, such a good engineer

[@squeaksvids5886]

@@theburrell4626 I’ve been dying to see this wonderful to finish.

[@johnkinnane547]

G'day Graig boy that was something else but full credit to you, you sorted it out it seems incredibly over engineered and I very much doubt if could have done it. The 9's looking great so far you've done an excellent job on her and she is going to be a very fine locomotive, it must be starting to get cold over there so stay warm and safe from the Corvid you and the family talk to you soon kind regards John

[@no23mk2]

Cheers John, Bloody perishing over here - freezing temperatures and plenty of snow. I sent you some pics on Whatsapp but they don't appear to have got to you. Have you changed your number?

[@stuartdixon9552]

Beautiful workmanship. A suggestion if I may. Take your bench vice jaws to your local machine shop and get the faces surface ground to remove those horrible serrations. I did mine and it stops everything you hold in the vice from bring damaged.

[@no23mk2]

Thank you Stuart. This vice normally has fibre jaws fitted so the rough jaws aren't a problem. I have another vice for fine work. Sometimes those serated jaws come in handy on full size rough jobs!

[@robertwedd1111]

Fabulous explanation and progress 👍

[@no23mk2]

Many thanks Robert

[@robertwedd1111]

@@no23mk2 - hope the build is still going well. Looking forward to the next update 👍

[@no23mk2]

No progress since January due to house move. Should be back in the workshop in the winter though. 😁

[@connorrobinson1909]

Hope all is well. Eagerly waiting the next part in the series :)

[@no23mk2]

All is well thanks. I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@squeaksvids5886]

@@no23mk2 Glad you’re doing well, was wondering if anything had happened as we haven’t seen a new video for a year.

[@alvarengaraf2012]

Looking forward to the next videos

[@organbuilder272]

Ctaig - What has happened? Where are you. Have you been ill, You were moving your shop - what happened. We do miss you.

[@no23mk2]

All is well thank you Robert. I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@steverobinson9836]

Really missing an updated video of the progress of the 'Star' of the show but hoping everything is ok with you and you are safe and well

[@no23mk2]

All is well thanks. I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@joaof5147]

What a fantastic journey you take a viewer in! I've watched many live steam locomotive videos in youtube but none has captivated me as much :). Keep it up! Can't wait for the next video! By the way, where did you get your schematics/drawings of the machine? Is there a data bank somewhere with them? I'm particulary interested in some locos manufactured by Henschel & Sohn pre WWII but can't seem to find anything in those lines for some specific models. I'm probably searching in the wrong place :P...

[@no23mk2]

Many thanks, Very busy with other priorities lately. Hope to be back in the shop soon. Drawings available from www.blackgates.co.uk/CAT_Blackgates_Catalogue_2019.pdf

[@francescoferrigno2339]

Dying to know when the next video is coming out?

[@no23mk2]

I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@Pururuwu]

You're epic, i hope we know about you and your project soon.

[@no23mk2]

Thanks! I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@mr01steam]

When will this interesting series of Videos return????

[@no23mk2]

Soon Hopefully...

[@brickleyyard4966]

Hope all is well not seen a video for a while hope all is OK can't whait for the next instalment

[@no23mk2]

All is well thanks. I've been busy with other stuff of late.

[@brickleyyard4966]

Cool good to hear all is well hopefully we will get to see some videos soon I hope but just good to know all is well thats always number 1

[@rcboatlife4907]

Brilliant work 👌

[@no23mk2]

Thank you

[@paulrayner4514]

well done. I'm glad you know what you are doing, I wouldn't have a clue. I presume the O ring will be sufficient to keep water out of the valve? or is it a case of the pressures inside and outside the valve both being equal? keep up the good work

[@no23mk2]

Cheers Paul, The o ring sits in a groove such that it compresses and forms a seal when the steam pipe is inserted. It is there to stop boiler pressure steam/water from entering the regulator body and hence down the steam pipe to the cylinders. The only steam entering the regulator should be via the slide valve. (In theory that is ;-)

[@paulrayner4514]

@@no23mk2 ahh! I see now, the pennies dropped. thanks for the reply

[@themechbuilder6171]

beautiful work

[@no23mk2]

Thank you.

[@timkerr2094]

Notice you haven’t uploaded for a while hope all is well.

[@organbuilder272]

Hello: Where have you gone?? Miss the work on the engine. What is happening - Injured? Unwell, Other problems? Please, let us know. Your fans do miss you and wish the best for you. By the wyas. I spent 5 hours with a Big Boy #4005. It is unbelievably HUGE Even have a drewing of how it is built. Your next project a full scale model - running, of course.

[@no23mk2]

Hi Robert, Just been busy lately. I'll explain in a forthcoming update. The Big Boy must be truly awe inspiring to behold. Built big for a big job - hauling huge tonnage up long gradients. Regarding a model Big Boy, one was built in the UK to 5" gauge scaled down from UP drawings. I saw it at the Steam Workshop not far from where I lived - It was a beautiful locomotive. Here is the link to it :- www.steamworkshop.co.uk/portfolio/up-big-boy/ Cheers Craig

[@organbuilder272]

@@no23mk2 Hello Craig - I am so glad to hear from you. Looking forward to your next step forward. How have you been? No covid I hope. I remember you were moving, that is a task and more. Thanks for writing. Really glad to hear from you once again. I heard about an Big Boy that was sent to Australia. That had to modify the wheels to fit a slightly different gauge I have to tell you that standing beside the front of 4005 - It was difficult to tell where it ended. Massive machine. Take care.

[@johnmcdyer7297]

Can you use stainless steel screws inside the boiler anyone know ,,,because I put some on a loco I built years to hold the fire hole door onto the boiler and within 6 months they were rotten through eletrolisis I think when replaced with bronze ones no problems again ,brilliant job by the way Craig

[@no23mk2]

Thanks John, I've never heard of that before. From my experience stainless steel is found in some of the most corrosive and hostile environments without any issues. Worth some investigation though.

[@johnmcdyer7297]

@@no23mk2 oh for sure because the copper will eat the stainless as they are dissimilar metals forgot to mention that in my case they were through holes and the end of the screw was in contact with the water the heads just fell off ,still worth checking

[@paulkennard8980]

Hi great work are you going to be continuing with your vertical boiler soon thanks Paul

[@no23mk2]

Thanks Paul. The vertical boiler is on hold for a while until I can set up an adequate soldering hearth.

[@rcboatlife4907]

When will you be doing an update on the engine love your videos

[@no23mk2]

Have been renovating a house and then moving to it. So had no workshop time. Hope to be back on the tools in the winter months. Cheers.

[@organbuilder272]

Craig: How are you? What's happening? Miss your postings. How is progress going. Anxious to see the latest news and events. Stay well, Be safe. Really do hope to see you soon.

[@no23mk2]

Hi Robert. Don't worry all is well. No workshop progess as I'm currently in the process of moving house and all that entails. Once we're settled in - I'll be back on the tools. Cheers Craig.

[@organbuilder272]

@@no23mk2 OMG - I moved from Korea 8 months ago. I brought a container of stuff. Moving your shop must been a real task. Wish I could help but I'm way over in Boston. Look forward to your return soon. Gotta get that thing chuffing on the rails. Thanks for the reply, Craid. Really nice to hear from you.

[@RailPreserver2K]

Hey I hope you move has been going okay, haven't seen or heard anything from the channel on a while

[@no23mk2]

All is well thanks. I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@aaronharrison3801]

It’s gone very quiet hope your well and we will have the next instalment soon

[@no23mk2]

All is well thanks. I've been busy with other stuff of late. Will post an update in due course.

[@aaronharrison3801]

Ah brilliant and I must have missed your reply 😊

[@gemunupriyantha]

beautiful

[@no23mk2]

Thank you

[@MalcolmCrabbe]

Excellent video, and I know its hard and time consuming, but I would love to see more of the machining and fabrication rather than stills. I love the way you modified the design and made what looks to be a vast improvement. Are you getting full travel from the regulator? When you demonstrated the assembled unit it looked as if the rotation to give full travel was more than when the lever was fitted at the end? - I know we are a long way off, but I can't wait to see this in steam for the first time

[@edhibbard1030]

I'm REALLY new at this machining thing, and no steam experience at all, but I have to agree with the comment regarding limited travel of the assembled linkage. Full rotation is not seen, and the U shaped coupler at the front end seems to bind on the arm going into the side of the boiler (or against the flange after looking again). Shouldn't be too hard to fix?

[@MalcolmCrabbe]

@@edhibbard1030 Given the skills shown in this video I'm sure sorting out whatever is restricting the amount of travel will be a doddle :-)

[@no23mk2]

Thank you Malcolm and well spotted. It was the intermediate clevises that I hadn't filed out enough after milling the slots. All good now! Cheers Craig

[@iansseafishing9229]

Are you posting any more videos that shows you finishing it off

[@robertgilbert342]

It's been a while since your last post, I hope everything is ok ???

[@no23mk2]

All fine thanks. House move has got in the way of workshop stuff.

[@robertgilbert342]

@@no23mk2 Thank goodness for that! In these uncertain times.....

[@dampfronny2734]

Compliments very good job

[@no23mk2]

Thank you.

[@VulcanBomberxm655]

Craig, what are your plans for the Safety Valves? I've got the works drawing for them and I'm contemplating making them as a product if you fancy some?

[@no23mk2]

Hi, I haven't looked at safety valves as yet. I'll certainly bare that in mind. Cheers

[@theflyingscotsman9902]

Cheers, would you advise any locktite on the small bolts for the retainer ? Thankyou Craig

[@no23mk2]

Thank you, I have been wondering the very same thing. I'm not sure how well Loctite copes with high temperature applications - Will have to research that one!

[@marknewell7355]

How's things going craig mate not heard from you in a while hope all is well with you and family. I also know your busy too, hope you don't think im pestering just checking in mate

[@no23mk2]

Hi Mark, All is good thanks. Have been busy moving house among other things, - so workshop projects have temporarily ground to a halt. Hope to be back at it during the winter months.

[@marknewell7355]

@@no23mk2 ahh good too hear mate absolutely hate moving house there is nothing worse really glad all is well especially with the virus and what not

[@AkashJadhavIT]

hello sir. This is the great build which shows each and every component down to bare minimum details. thank you so much for sharing this :).i also want to design this but in fusion 360 CAD, gouge 1 as hobby , as it would get very costly in real world . any idea how can i get the plan details, i am a new and have backgruod in software development and not a mechanical. any help with plan and resources will be appreciated

[@themechbuilder6171]

its been a while since the last video, what happened? are you ok?

[@no23mk2]

All is well thanks. Have been very busy with other stuff...

[@corbinb5410]

What livery are you going to paint your 9f in when she’s done?

[@no23mk2]

Black.

[@corbinb5410]

@@no23mk2 I can’t wait to see her when she’s done I know it will look awesome 👏

[@golde289]

hi um where is her safety valve ps. i am a railfan

[@derekblake9385]

Are you OK? No uploads for a year now

[@no23mk2]

Hi Derek, All fine thanks. Have been busy with house renovation and moving and all that that entails. Will hopefully post a new video in the coming months. Cheers Craig.

[@marknewell7355]

Craig mate I hate to be this guy but half a hour video is just not long enough lol im to tackle boiler wrapper on the britt from scratch not as easy as it looks well to me anyway. I believe that type regulator will have more control than a ball type responsive you'll have to go easy on her looking fantastic what's next on the 9f

[@no23mk2]

Thanks Mark. Good luck with the wrapper!

[@marknewell7355]

@@no23mk2 I've been in the garage 5 hours today I've had to look back at one of your videos using a roller every time I did it it was way off also looked at copper rivets you did so thank you think I'm getting somewhere now I'll go back out after tea

[@laaity]

I wish i was that far with my locomotive

[@no23mk2]

You've got plenty of time!

[@laaity]

@@no23mk2 yea i guess Im only 15 so yeah

[@marknewell7355]

What locomotive are you building and size

[@laaity]

@@marknewell7355 im building a lner b12 7 1/4 inch

[@marknewell7355]

@@laaity wow that will be some model pal I've 3 locomotives a 5 inch Black 5 and a Britannia and a prairie all in different states of repair black 5 and the britt are nearly done. Can you do all your own machining I can on simple turning and odds and ends now here near craig though lol

[@yelbalstoy4168]

beautiful

[@no23mk2]

Thank you.