Noam Chomsky Lectures on Modern-Day American Imperialism: Middle East and Beyond

Noam Chomsky, an emeritus professor of linguistics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a well-known political activist critical of U.S. foreign policy, traces modern-day American imperialism to its earliest roots, 25 years before the American Revolution, and he explains how the United States has lived up to its reputation as "the most frightening and dangerous country in the world."
Hosted by Boston University School of Law and the Boston University Anti-War Coalition on April 24, 2008.

[@efortune357]

8:00 Noam begins 8:20 “Talking about American Imperialism is like talking about triangular triangles.” Only country he knows that was founded as an empire. Has never changed. Borrowed from Britain and before them the Roman empire. 9:30 Benjamin Franklin complains about limited expansion 10:30 Thomas Jefferson 11:30 US tried to invade Canada. Blocked by Britain 12:25 John Quincy Adams, Manifest Destiny 13:20 John Lewis Gaddis (sp?) most respected historian on Cold War. 15:20 no congress declaring war. Model ever since. 21:05 Woodrow Wilson atrocities in Haiti Quotes Of Woodrow Wilson 23:00 ww2 27:15 propaganda and colleges 27:45 the middle east in Latin America 28:30 Southeast Asia 29:40 Africa 30:45 examples to read of fanatic jingoism. NSE68 Book “Washington’s China” by Peck 31:50 Latin America “our resources” 32:30 Cold War 33:30 “radical nationalism” aka sovereign countries who don’t do what we want. Even the smallest place could become a serious danger. Henry Kissinger 35:30 A couple of weeks after the fall of the Berlin Wall the US invaded panama. For Noriega, who committed crimes while on CIA payroll 38:30 what US said after Cold War. Middle East. Needs reason to invade. Can no longer blame Soviet Union. 41:10 Hillary Clinton, if Iran attack Israel 42:35 resistance from other countries equals aggression, 42:40 Vietnam 43:25 Iran “aggression “ 44:50 Condolezza Rice, Iraq, brainwashed by US education Financial weapons 47:55 two principals: 1. We own the world. 2. Everything we do is with the best of intentions. No evidence required 49:00 Vietnam, several millions died, “blundering efforts to do good” 50:00 establishing democracy in Vietnam was like Soviet Union establishing democracy in other countries 50:30 historian Arthur Schleshinger , war hawk, on Vietnam 70% of populace was anti-war, but “educated” sector never spoke of that. 52:15 should read, but it taught, final parts of The Pentagon Papers. Wanted to send more troops it worried about anti-war protest and social unrest. 53:50 parallels Vietnam and Iraq, no principled critique 55:30 John Berns, senior correspondent quote. America stabilizes the world and always does good no matter what the population or the rest of the world experiences ***57:55 “Current George Bush after 9/11 asked ‘Why do they hate us?’ Cause of our Freedoms’ and so on. You remember that. What the press should’ve reported is that he was just repeating a question that President Eisenhower asked in 1958. Eisenhower asked his staff ‘Why is there a campaign of hatred against us among the people of the Middle East?’ And the National Security Council, the highest planning agency, had provided an answer. They said the people in the Middle East, their perception is that The United States supports brutal tyrannies, and blocks democracy and development, and does so because we want control of their oil. And then they went on to say ‘Yeah, their perception is more or less correct and that’s the way it ought to be.’ So therefore there’s a campaign of hatred against us. And so it continues.” 58:50 Wall St Journal conducted some polls in Middle East 1:01:15 book “A Different kind of war” 1:03:40 what about Iran? 1:08:00 Israel Palestinian solution Everyone agrees except US and Israel 1:11:30 Q&A 1:12:00 Question: undermining Chomsky’s credibility ***1:17:40 Question: US undermining foreign food markets with farm subsidies. Ethanol. NAFTA drives Mexican farmers out of business cause they can’t compete with US subsidies, leave Mexico but ten we hold walls 1:21:45 destruction of Haitian economy by Bill Clinton policies 1:24:15 question: might the US foment violence to further action in Iran? 1:27:45 Iraq was the first war in history that was extremely protested before it started that he can remember 1:28:00 US didn’t care about Vietnam being wiped off the map. Eisenhower mentioned in build up to war rubber and tin but that was a joke. Vietnam had no resources of significance to the United States. Concern of Vietnam waste virus infection theory. Deep concern that independent development in Vietnam might inspire other countries. Didn’t care about Vietnam’s resources at all. That’s why we could destroy it. Iraq is not the same. We want to cheap oil 1:33:30 Question: manufacturing consent: talk of North Korea building a nuclear reactor In Syria. Israel was able to successfully wipe it out. What’s your take? Piece on NPR’s of the story only covered half the story. ***1:39:15 Question: US support of dictators in Latin America, middles East, even support of Saddam Hussein. Most people are unaware. How can we educate them? 1:39:50 most people don’t know we supported Saddam Hussein or the extent to which we supported him. 1982 Reagan removes Iraq from list of terrorist states. Aka countries we want to go after. In order to proved aid to Saddam Hussein right through his worst atrocities. 1989 invites Iraq for nuclear weapons production US was upset when he disobeyed and invaded Kuwait. Authorized him to crush rebellion Thomas Friedman, New York Times propagandist ***1:48:40 Latin America question Awesome response

[@abepresume8132]

Eric Fortune Thank you🙌🏿

[@czap45]

Noam, why use an alias? Just say "you"!

[@michaelhermann5998]

Hi

[@michaellovetere8033]

Did he mention that the majority of serious conflicts were under democrat presidents?

[@abusaeidkhannaeim9235]

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[@abramshelley9691]

This is always going to be relevant. Hearing it for the first time. 2022

[@markpacowhitinger7226]

I second that

[@William.._]

I Third

[@philanderalbert]

Ok

[@jessethau5612]

Still just as relevant of an analysis today.

[@lutherrennie6538]

@@markpacowhitinger7226 y

[@carmel-wayfinder5401]

There are some people in this world who are real honest human beings that do a great service to humanity ⚖️

[@anooptiwari7603]

Boston University, thank you very much for posting on KZbin this excellent lecture by Prof. Chomsky.

[@nmtechnicalpro9507]

Noam starts at 8:13

[@moesiatestecles1975]

+1

[@paintedhorse6880]

This is that American history you don't learn in school.

[@DrCruel]

You haven't been in college over the last few decades. Crap like this has become quite popular nowadays. I tutored a student who had to read Howard Zinn's propaganda book in a "history" class as well.

[@ezequiellopez2044]

@@DrCruelgood

[@DearProfessorRF]

Has the first questioner recovered from having been badly burned from every word by Chomsky?

[@jpenneymrcoin6851]

don't worry, he is protected by a shield of stupid

[@kadic6305]

Not really because he’s speaking to the a mentally ill

[@ramonb9446]

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[@bennymule3226]

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[@nagakoshu19]

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[@kennethaquan-assee1312]

A man with a towering intelligence and massive memory, erudite in many fields, the father of new linguistics, a quiet courteous scholar who seemingly applies a simple rule in his critical evaluation of political behaviour -which may be his version of Kant's categorical imperative-expect that you will be judged by the same standard you use to judge others! Chomsky is one one of the great men of our era! Be grateful if you have met him.

[@urbanstuff9950]

What a hak. This is for suckers who do not know history, economics, and, most importantly, chomsky's history of flopped predictions.

[@timothyodaniell9119]

@@urbanstuff9950 whether in agreement with Chomsky or not, which I am personally not, I agree with your description of the man. i was very impressed with how well you made his description, truly a giant in his field. well said!

[@JYRIVIRMA]

So what's good about communism?

[@samsimonsen4995]

The clap back from Chomsky lmao

[@crosbyspsychedelics1383]

Not only did I get to watch this awesome speech I got to watch noam light the first questioner up with straight facts

[@Hollis.tl-dr]

That questioner, and those like him, won’t take Yes for an answer. And

[@ronaldclough8567]

Pro eugenics are ya, you first

[@saskk2290]

@@ronaldclough8567 didn't hear anything about eugenics. People get old and lose their sharpness. Nothing old Chomsky has said in recent years erases the genius of this lecture

[@td866]

That 1st questioner was super aggressive and scary, but came across like an idiot.

[@carmel-wayfinder5401]

@@Hollis.tl-dr I got a name for these kind of people Morons 🙄

[@bukharimohamadmuhamed8129]

After this lecture we all should take a moment and think about the US? What a brutal state

[@borninvincible]

@Windy Calyx 7 Did you watch the video?

[@borninvincible]

@@mamatoldem5331 yes bet i did

[@DennisRay99]

😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@maureenmannion6748]

At 85 yrs of age it is depressing to learn the truth about this country's aggression from Professor Chomsky.

[@equanimousawareness]

And we'll take the first question from Mr. Shillster.....

[@coolcat1684]

I’ll bet the questioner never served for the ‘home team’ but wears army surplus and plays computer war games in his mother’s basement

[@darrellpate1270]

@@coolcat1684 omg that’s funny

[@darkness595]

@@coolcat1684 fry 😂🚀

[@paulconnelly4050]

Noam Chomsky never ceases to amaze me. As intelligent and articulate as he is, he gets the message across very simply. He’s more accessible than the many pseudo intellects who babble on and on trying to sound clever but just spout jingoistic mumbo jumbo and sucking up to the state.

[@martinreid2352]

paul connelly Noam just tells the facts, and connects where necessary. The fact/interpretation ratio is astounding. You really get the sense he’s just interpreting events, not justifying an ideology.

[@kybelian]

If you mean the Goofballs on ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC today's Sophists that speak well by saying nothing

[@iwontgiveyoumyinformation8895]

wow! how he reacts to the first questioner is immensly impressive.

[@60-second-HACKS]

I've heard a lot of criticism of Chomsky. But I've rarely heard his outline of ugly historical facts challenged.

[@countof3everybodyOD]

“Ugly” lmaoooo

[@kreyvegas1]

This is a must-see for the 8 billion people around our planet !!!

[@hamzahk.8721]

lol, the world is not lacking information. When a US solder killed and entire family before raping their daughter, the US people made excuses for him. Do you think listening to this guy is going to change their opinion about the US being the terrorist? nope

[@gaticaantonio9235]

I will recommend this video to any Republican to watch this video maybe they will learn something I DOUBT IT not even in a million years today's Republicans DO NOT BELIEF IN SCIENCE GLOBAL WARMING ALL THE DAMAGE THEY BROUGHT DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR LONG LONG LONG TIME

[@a54109]

@@gaticaantonio9235 I'm worried about white replacement

[@kiwitrainguy]

The human mind is like a parachute - both of those things work best when they are open.

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

@Hum Shak : To say _"the U.S. people"_ when you claim anything other than they are people, means you will always be wrong. We are a people, who like any and all other nations, are myriad in our beliefs and actions. Would you send all of the people in your city to prison because one or even many of them are murderers? Sure, there are a huge number of illiterate and ignorant people in our country who vote for the likes of trump, but not even all of them are bad people. I live in a rural county now in California (to my dismay, because many here are unfriendly at best), but out of my closest neighbors, the 2 left wing are some of the worst neighbors I've had. While one the conservative trump supporters I consider the better of them all as a person. As far as I can tell, I agree with the others political views, I think anyone with a brain should lean hard to the left. But as individuals they lack the heart and common decency I see in the conservative whose political views I find disgusting. Here is the real problem as I see it. Although I agree with you that we are not lacking information, we are no longer living in _The Information Age._ Instead we are currently living in _The Age of Misinformation._ The internet, like all tools eventually are, is now being used as a weapon by the power seekers among us to further subjugate us all to their wills to fill their wallets with the masses of gold desire that they are too weak and cowardly to attain by working with their own hands. We the people of this world need to stand up for each other and stop this madness. Because as we can both see, it is growing and soon may destroy us all otherwise. I hope you are all staying as happy and healthy as you are able in these trying times. Much love from rural California. ^-^

[@audiostealer9279]

Thanks for posting! Excellent lecture with many illuminating points, sad that more people don’t understand our horrible imperial history

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

Even back in 2010, (resistance = agression) he is touching on the current love of labeling anyone who opposes oppressive rule as a "terrorist."

[@jshepard152]

9/11 attackers? Terrorists? Opponents of oppressive rule? Freedom fighters? Heroes of yours?

[@timothymctigue2538]

it takes one to know one.....

[@rcchristian2]

@@jshepard152 All Chomsky is saying is listen to the people who attack you. Listen to why they attack you. On one side (the American side) they are called terrorists but if you listen to what Osama Bin Laden said, how his people were attacked, from their point of view, the US were the terrorists and they were freedom fighters. Chomsky is not condoning their actions, supporting their actions or anything of the sort. Just pointing out the reasons why they attack us, and that there is another side to the story, that most people ignore.

[@JamicianKid]

TEN YEARS AGO!!! Nothing has changed. Well, okay, it's a lot worse.

[@mikeparker7631]

and this scumbag and his propaganda is a HUGE reason why its gotten so much worse.

[@intelluck4213]

@Cha Cha Rah idgaf! No one man love anything. Trump still has the mindset of an imperialism mindset

[@FuKYuClown]

Stay tuned for the Dark Ages!

[@lewstherintelamon1377]

What has changed is that now, in advocating first for Hillary, and then for Biden, Chomsky himself has come to support these very policies which he decries in this video.

[@garystevenson5560]

I read this in a novel (I think ) For social justice, work, affordable housing, good unespensive Health care. Forget identity politics, have invisible brigades block crucial infrastructure (train tracks as an example) to promote claims.

[@edouardmilan1378]

One of the greatest intellectuals of all time. The fact that the mainstream media outlets have banned him reveals that he speaks truth to power and says a lot about the mainstream media.

[@sevsthepokey]

He is also a genocide denier. Which is a far more important reason he is restricted.

[@pappapaps]

@@sevsthepokey Source. And source on why that is the reason he is not on mainstream media. You're talking out your ass.

[@user-fw2gg8cs2q]

People do love false prophets.... nice to admire one in pretense of intellectualism

[@maxmillianwiegel1643]

@@sevsthepokey Absolutely. It's why, as a Serbian-American, I hate him. We did horrible things, and just sweeping them under the Rug of "US Bad", infantilizes the conflict, and removes blame.

[@wrightmaiorquezico8909]

@@sevsthepokey What genocide did he "deny"? The ones that western propaganda always invents?

[@jonassteinberg3779]

At no moment are his seeming-tangents at all tangents and that is the subtle and profound that is Noam Chomsky. This is an incredible lecture; one of the best I've ever seen.

[@yes8515]

Lol okay Steinberg, I wonder what you and Chomsky have in common.

[@erikprantare696]

@@yes8515 cringe

[@rcchristian2]

@@yes8515 What a weird comment. Strange how many weird people like you there are on Chomsky's comment section. I can just imagine what is going on through your head.

[@johngates2602]

Noam Chomsky a true scholar.

[@eleonoramarkopaljusevic3501]

Thank you for such beautiful video.

[@youtubezcy]

Love how sharp this man's mind is still.

[@THDTPSEvents]

He is definitely still sharp minded. He also makes some good points, especially on a country's involvement in other countries affairs. I fervently disagree with his overall message however, and I am amazed he doesn't 1. Recognize the evil of all people (not just his US bashing). 2. Thinks that left to their own devices, other countries involved in some horrid acts will cease or that they even don't do these acts in the 1st place, and therefore there is never a reason to stop atrocities from anywhere, 3. That any system of Govt. put in place before Western culture produced world wide success (even with the awful wars/manipulations that can be accounted to any nation) that the US/Western Democracy has. It has lifted more people out of poverty than any system seen in history to date. Is it perfect? GOD NO. And sometimes it is even bad... the US especially has some ugly warts in its past. But if someone wants to 'do better', they need to explain the plan up front. Socialism revisited? Give me a break. How many times must it fail and become corrupt (and kill countless millions) before we finally reject it as a 'valid' governance.

[@pappapaps]

​@@THDTPSEvents This might be a year old but you are wrong on too many points to let it go. *1. Recognize the evil of all people (not just his US bashing).* The reason he focuses mostly on US atrocities is very logical and sound: Because that is where he can have the biggest impact, and the audiences he touches domestically has the vote in the most powerful nation in the world. It is also _very reasonable_ to focus your critique on the government that is supposed to represent you. *2. Thinks that left to their own devices, other countries involved in some horrid acts will cease or that they even don't do these acts in the 1st place* For this statement to have fundamental merit it would have to rest on implications derived from fallacies. Fallacy 1. The US is supporting democratic development in third world nations. (On the contrary, there is a strong correlation between US interference and _lack of democracy_ in, for example, Latin America and Indo China.) Fallacy 2. The US is stopping or halting undemocratic toppling of nations. (On the contrary, the US has a rich history of toppling democratically elected leaders all the way back to Mossadegh in Iran 1953.) Fallacy 3. Thinking it is your job to police the world. (Even if human rights are violated in a dispute between two nations, there is no reason to think that anyone involved wants US help to begin with. If America started a war with Canada, you wouldn't accept the emperor of Tunisia to invade in an attempt to take control of the situation to further spread their cultural influence) *3. That any system of Govt. put in place before Western culture produced world wide success* This is the worst one. The size of the proverbial blinders you must wear daily to say something so hilariously wrong is beyond me. World wide success??? So the structural adjustments forced on third world countries by The World Bank and IMF (Where US holds veto), referred to by international economists as "kicking away the ladder" is success? 4 billion people living under the humanitarian poverty line is success? 70% of biodiversity _gone_ in 50 years do to the industrial practices executed by the west, then mainly exported to the east during globalization and liberalization of capital markets?? While the west has been the dominant regime everything has gone to shreds. You just confuse yourself by overlapping the horrors of capitalism with the successes of Industrial revolution, like all the other conservative state lap dogs. Leading us to the next: *3.1 It has lifted more people out of poverty than any system seen in history to date* No it hasn't. Steven Pinker is wrong, and the world bank is cooking the books. It is a well known fact among specialists in the field. More people are in poverty than ever before. Nation after nation has been shredded to pieces in the name of US dominance. Furthermore: The increased quality of living seen in the west is _not_ a result of capitalism. It is a result of research and development mostly paid for by the state. What you ascribe to the economic system is actually a result stemming from the Industrial Revolutions. And those have been driven by state capital, not private investment. Everything in your PC was researched and developed for decades in the state sector before being handed over to the private sector. I can give you a ton of examples. *3.2 Socialism revisited? Give me a break.* True admission of brainwashed bias, and I don't blame you. That one is such a strong meme that many intelligent people also fall for it. So just to be clear: Both the Russian and American propaganda systems has been agreeing on the postulation that USSR was an example of socialism. They did it for opposite reasons, so the agreement is merely a convergent development. (Russia wanted to be seen as Socialist because of the potent connotations the title carried at that place and time) (USA wanted to smear Socialism so it also granted that title to the new fascist one party dictatorship in the east at that time) Socialism at it's core means workers control over means of production. That's where you begin, everything else comes after that. Did that happen in Russia in October 1917? (The opposite happened. By December any hope for a democratic process had been stifled.) If you think the opposite is the case _please do share_ your sources. The reality is that even Germany was closer to something resembling socialism at the very same time, since they had workers unions, giving the worker a degree of control over the capitalist owned means of production. (The core of socialism, as stated by it's originators, _not_ the modern, American version where Socialism means "haters who want everyone to be poor" ) When the USSR collapsed in 1991, the world didn't get rid of an example of socialism, it lost a grand barrier to it.

[@patrickduty7706]

@@pappapaps perfect response, my good sir/mam. The indoctrination tea is STRONG particularly in America. It's difficult to wake these people up when they've been blissfully asleep their entire lives.

[@ivan00001983]

Wow, that first guy asking the question, typical... If you're not with us you're against us, so if you don't justify crime, if you criticize, if you think with your own head then you're a spy, internal enemy, you're rooting for communists, Russia, KGB, you-name-it... I love how Noam gracefully and respectfully handled that paranoid person and continued his Q&A, I love it how intelligent he is and how he resolves such people with ease.

[@talksolot]

@thestackedhouse ignored his infantile tantrum and asinine accusations?

[@user-vr6io5xb9e]

he failed to make it clear because he asked three questions. I’m sure even Noam Chomsky didn’t get the last question (or simply ignored) question. It’s about so called freedom fighters who have been used by USA in Iraqi and Syrian Civil wars (just like ISIS) en.news-front.info/2016/01/17/noam-chomsky-pkk-are-freedom-fighters-of-kurdistan/ I have been keen follower of Chomsky and yes he’s contradicted himself by supporting those terrorists in the Middle East simply because they’re Marxist

[@michaellovetere8033]

Has BLM, who don't give a sh-t about black lives matter and is founded by marxists, come to your neighborhood yet?

[@lydiapaul4617]

eleven years later,,, this still rings true

[@Joaocruz30]

Yeah. And what are you able to do to stop that eternal conflict?

[@dariushhojabrian8786]

because US is still US. but hopefully China is growing to oppose US and I think It will end soon for US Dominant power

[@neddoyle8304]

Yes it does.

[@sophocles1198]

You can tell Chomsky was moved by the heartfelt introduction.

[@JG-ib7xk]

Nah, he's used to inarticulate and verbose students shouting introductions to all his appearances. He's less moved and more bored.

[@djddub]

I was waiting for her to stfu

[@Bint-e-Umar]

I actually want to meet Sir Noam Chomsky ✨✨.

[@lepidoptera9337]

Do you like to smell old man pee? Really? Let me tell you one thing about heroes: they always look much better from a distance.

[@sizla8837]

Even though this was posted in 2010, some of the commentary here would have you believe the events spoken about were just yesterday

[@nathanielibrahim3492]

Seriously. He even mentioned a wall on the southern border.

[@jackoneill9763]

As a system that requires a moral people to survive and thrive and is to a large extent in this respect an "honor system" is mercilessly beaten, burned, looted, murdered, trashed, by ignorant Marxist anarchist haters, your keynote for 2020 is the big bad imperialist USA? The USA is weak because it was founded for a moral people and its people are no longer moral and there aren't appropriate laws to enforce a stability that was previously endemic to the people. Imagine actually believing in a utopia on earth, instead of being pragmatic about the lesser evil and realizing the stability in places like China comes at the cost of personal liberty and grows from the end of a gun. Your endorsement of leftist shills like Noam undermines the only real hope you have ever had for personal liberty- Western Civilization.

[@afringedweller]

@@42663 just calling someone "insane" without giving ANY reason or evidence: kind of stupid, don't you think? I mean, especially if you think you'd like to influence anybody in any way.

[@kybelian]

Yeah 2010 is ancient history

[@kybelian]

@@nathanielibrahim3492 serious discussion about a wall began with 911 fallout. That was 2001. The fact that we cannot travel to CANADA Without a Passport or Enhanced License is a form of a wall too.

[@luisinharamos]

12 years after this talk every opinnion of yours is stil updated. Congrats and thank you for keeping my mind stil sane in 2022. (English is not my first language. Sorry)

[@johnsmith-wl8dp]

the first question is how this way of thinking was established? the 2nd question is , how this process of domination can be eradicated?

[@paulconnelly4050]

An incredible individual whose moral compass has always been true north.

[@ProfessorSyndicateFranklai]

21:39 Pursuit of free-trade has basically defined Britain in the Industrial Age. Indeed, ventures in India were a private idea, and the monarch only took over the East India Company after a series of disastrous famines that reminded everyone why private corporations should not rule countries. There's another saying too, "They say trade follows the flag, but in Britain, the flag follows trade."

[@damarekonayaro5781]

Only it wasn't free trade for all but free trade for British Imperial interests. In fact the earlier part of the British imperial economic interests were importing raw materials at the lowest cost, the latter stages also imposed the colonial industrial limitations but also closed the markets from outside competition and the closed markets were then the economic mainstay of the British Empire. Pursuit of exploitation defined the Britain in the industrial age and before, both domestically and latterly across dominions and colonies.

[@Soril2010]

@@damarekonayaro5781 Most other world players at the time/previously were in the pursuit of conquest. Unlike France/Russia/Germany etc. Britain didn't have the geographic position or population to ever conquer/unify a Eurasian empire and preventing another power doing so is what defined British foreign policy/strategy since the Napoleonic wars.

[@sumitvlogs8876]

I have never seen such a senior man as this one who can stand up for long hours.God bless him.

[@kennytheclown3859]

Noam Chomsky, always dropping knowledge.

[@DrCruel]

Chomsky certainly has dedicated his life to obscuring knowledge with all his might.

[@terryaltman340]

Chomsky is the greatest worldwide intellectual, he's a treasure to us all!

[@mikerocketmusic]

It’s great that Medhi Hassan was able to finally get him on network television this year. If only he were constantly on network television: how much so many would know. I recently sent a friend who supported Trump the Manufacturing Consent documentary on KZbin. He watched it twice and thanked me for sharing.

[@philkariuki135]

"we're indigenous everywhere" USA

[@NwoDispatcher]

They are trying to force us all into their world empire... and steal all of our right to homelands

[@timothymctigue2538]

@@NwoDispatcher and the gold, oil, water, and poison the land as they go.

[@texasray5237]

But we own it all. Zion

[@gavinaston5716]

"I'm indigenous to nowhere cause no one wants me." 'Gnome' Chomsky.

@@NwoDispatcher if it werent for the us, those countries wouldnt exist you fool, those countries would still be nothing but filled with pirates and hunters and gatherers still!

[@VelhaGuardaTricolor]

8:19 Talking about American Imperialism is like talking about triangular triangles. lol greatest analogy ever!!!

[@wayneforde6609]

Isn't France carrying on the same policy in Africa and European practice the same policy globally

[@marimota5083]

Yes they are, but that does not apologize American behavior, is equally bad for both of them

[@timothymctigue2538]

@@marimota5083 Dear young lady, the UNITED STATES CORPORATION is not american, all american nationals are tricked thru fraud and deceit to be U.S. Citizens, see: Senator Wayne Stumps letter o the St of Arizona Legislature, Dated December 10, 1985, and see: HB 1778 passed in NH March 2019, we have Equal Protection of Law. Congress acting in its corporate capacity since 1861 can not pass laws that pertain to the private inhabitants, definition of a citizen is a Debtor... the quazi/defacto govt -not real govt can only pass laws that pertain o corporations and made one in your/our names with the issuance of the birth certificate, and claimed them selves the benefactor and beneficiary. this is a direct violation of the Commerce Act. there is a whole lot more, but i am resigned as their registered agent in wash DC and the St of CT ad the St of fl.. sorry not your subject/involuntary servant/ there is so much more also. i found paper ammo that separates my private inhabitant from their fraudulent ways. see: nobel el on the utube. i do no mean to offend you. I only want the Best for you and all others.

[@kybelian]

They are openly imperialistic and organic countries not founded on hypocrisy but on one group of brutes taking over from weaker brutes. The USA has a great fantasy of being above this and is in denial of its truths

[@aaronengland7695]

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[@coincoindelacanardiere3958]

Same? How so?

[@essye100]

Thank you for posting- can't get enough of Noam

[@DrCruel]

I had enough of him in 1978, back when he was stumping for the Khmer Rouge. That was long before he was commenting favorably on Hezbollah.

[@phatneazy]

If Hugo Chavez is giving him awards he must be a great guy

[@queshana9629]

Thank you!🙏🏾

[@oxymoron9548]

Wow! Amazing!

[@infiniteflow8849]

1:17:13 spoken like a 'true' patriot

[@Cd5ssmffan]

Cheerleading? he thinks politics is a game?

[@LewdConnoisseur]

What was his point? Lol

[@gggnumber1]

@@LewdConnoisseur -His point was to make Chomsky look like a bubbling fool. My opinion? I don't believe that went too well for the questioner.

[@gggnumber1]

@@Cd5ssmffan - Yeah. Plus, it's kind of a loaded question. For instance I'm thinking it ain't "who" but "what" are you cheerleading for? And an answer could be as simple as, "Justice." But really, not an absolute but people want justice. Governments want power.

[@mikeparker7631]

@@LewdConnoisseur That this guy is a communist....almost certainly being actively bankrolled by Russia, China or both.

[@davedavidson9996]

They should get Noam to introduce this young woman at a lecture of hers .

[@markarbanasin4]

She was good but I think she needs to keep working/practicing. Slow down the pace a little and she will be great. I don't mean this negatively, it's hard when you're new to public speaking to pace yourself.

[@chriscohen97]

@@markarbanasin4 Shut up Mark, no one needs your critique

[@peterpretzington9669]

She should be his hypewoman

[@maureenmannion6748]

​@markarbanasin4 It is encouraging to hear this young woman's commitment to the truth. YOU GO GIRL!!

[@KingOfShenanigan]

The opening remarks are surprisingly fire.

[@THDTPSEvents]

If by fire you mean an upper middle class young white person rambling on about socialist views and the evils of western culture of which she enjoys more freedom than in any non-Western culture in history or today... then yes.

[@sittingbackandwatchingital3845]

@@THDTPSEvents you want to know why the west has the most freedom? Because they take everyone else in the world away

[@matthiasschuster9505]

@@THDTPSEvents You know that you start to call her out on alleged and unproven privileges, suggesting it is something that belittles her for some reason, just to make a point about her actual privileges one sentence later - just that this time it's a good thing since the society that you think to support seemingly grants it to her - which is not even remotely true? And you also omitted that *completely regardless* of her actual social status, she could enjoy much more of those privileges in social democracies, which by very definition, contain more socialism than your broken US system, which produces more homeless people, prisoners, poor, uneducated and mentally ill, as well as violent policies than *any* of the developed countries in Europe, New Zealand or Canada. All those systems are providing much more *from the people to the people* than the US, by paying similar or fewer taxes.

[@MrCJWEI]

I learned a lot. Thank you for the video!

[@Jordan-uz9me]

The speech from the girl at the beginning is very eloquent, passionate and accurate. Very impressive.

[@hv3115]

Indeed. Very impressive and passionate speech by her. And all the problems Chomsky and she outlined in this talk have only been compounded and become much worse 10 years later. I would be curious to know if if her views have changed since she made this speech.

[@rydermcdermott1973]

@@hv3115 Wow! Funny how if I had said the exact same thing, I would've been viewed as a sexual predator, a pervert, a deviant and my morals would've come under question, I would've been looked at with hatred and resentment and kept under constant scrutiny since that moment onwards and people in the community would lay guilt trips on me, try to deprive me of individual dignity and tacitly try to get me to work in some way to earn forgiveness and favor in the eyes of the public. That's one way to enslave people. But I agree with op.

[@UseAnAdblocker]

I know my government makes me ashamed by its actions. i can only hope the people of America feel the same way. Thankyou Noam Chomsky. You are a real superhero.

[@mattja52]

The shame should be on the American people for knowing what the government is doing and allowing it, it's the consequence of a docile people. Invisibility is not a good trait in a so-called Democracy.

[@DrCruel]

The most shameful American today is Noam Chomsky. As an ideologue he is the Left fascist version of Homelander.

[@aa2339]

I must have unlocked something. Am now getting these videos 13 years later.

[@bofootball30]

she is awesome, the young girl who introduced Noam

[@tammymism]

Sean Hannity asks his questions at 01:11:40

[@marimota5083]

Nice

[@skyangel6336]

That's not Sean Hannity!

[@matthiasschuster9505]

@@skyangel6336 That's the joke

[@santim270]

holy shit i need that article mentioned at 1:57:41 please

[@elsdonward5058]

It is a great shame that there are so few comments. These truths are eternal and it is also true that humanity is just not responding to the injustices of authoritarianism. Noam is a celebrated anarchist and I applaud his contribution to opening the eyes of the herd

[@gailshmail3420]

No, our soldiers have paid too much for a free market economy rather than a fascist oligarchy controlled through Google.

[@elerychampion5565]

Ok thanks for listening goodbye Noam Chomsky beloved orator to humanity I love your work

[@pandarzzz]

Thank You, professor Chomsky for sharing your great insight. I admire you deeply.

[@aksbeixhev]

Not just me watching this 10y old video :)

[@ronaldo0grande]

Noan Chomsky music open.spotify.com/track/1bpSdLd5av8NC9ZCocRJoN?si=tpxOy3NlSMSCz1GBy9goaw

[@apove1814]

@@aksbeixhev me watching 2022 : )

[@overthetoppranks]

Chomsky is the 🐐

[@imavileone7360]

Who's the loony at the beginning of the Q&A?

[@coolcat1684]

What YouWant? Some narrow minded America love it or leave it Cold War holdover who never got a girlfriend and channeled all his rage at ‘liberals’

[@garyc3233]

1st question guy did right by me...hard to be ready to challenge half as strong as radlibs[my invent word] do ...hah good to hear somebody ''pull the bull''apart

[@rydermcdermott1973]

"You don't have the COURAGE to tell us who you're cheerleading for".Some mf stuck in the crusades.

[@knowthycell]

Ryder McDermott crruuuussaadeeesssss!!!!!

[@gggnumber1]

@@garyc3233 - Nah. I don't believe it went too well for the guy. My president would have responded with something like, "That's a really mean question," which is translated as "I'm not smart enough to explain or defend myself." Noam did a lot better than that. And not to be too hard on you, but some of your sentences are missing words. Trump University? (Not an accusation. Just a joke.)

[@A.Moniriqbal]

A person with real dignity and pure honesty💐🙏👍

[@DrCruel]

Noam Chomsky is about as far one can get from dignity and honesty one can get nowadays outside of the UK and George Galloway.

[@7ElevenAlphaCentauri]

Chomsky is a beta

[@stephenwhite5421]

This needs a few hundred million views...🤣

[@johntao6822]

Agreed! At 333K/decade, tho', it's not looking good

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Here in 2020 watching for the first time (and loving it). _Hope is eternal._ This is what I say to Bernie supporters in our current time of crisis. Sure Bernie may lose the democratic nomination, but look how close we have come to having such an individual as president. Never give up hope, no one knows the future with any real certainty.

[@ikeman9784]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 I agree with you wholeheartedly Bernie will go down in history as the man who made America take a look into it's deeply troubled soul..

[@heydude7568]

Stephen White hardly

[@maryannwhatuira5582]

Mr Chomsky is a rare treasure...I just love him because of his wisdom and his never ceasing work in awakening the sheeple!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@aylbdrmadison1051]

Although I agree with your comment, please refrain from using such words as _"sheeple"._ Leave that to the regressive right wing who in their ignorance came up with such terms to describe the likes of you and I. No disrespect intended, and much love to you and anyone else who believes in freedom and has the strength of compassion. _Liked_ your comment regardless of course. And thank you for being a strong and wise person. ^-^

[@Cd5ssmffan]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 whatever sheeple

[@michaellovetere8033]

@@aylbdrmadison1051 since you must be a left winger and also hate this country or want to change it..would you like to verify your statement on where this descriptive word originated? Oh, and the term "right-winger" was invented by the left. I'm a conservative.

[@rcchristian2]

@@michaellovetere8033 said _"since you must be a left winger and also hate this country or want to change it..would you like to verify your statement on where this descriptive word originated? Oh, and the term "right-winger" was invented by the left. I'm a conservative."_ What a screwed up comment this is. You attack this guy about his patriotism, saying he hates the country? You are so arrogant ... lol I've literally read hundreds of comments but yours seem to stick out and are incredibly annoying. You are not a true conservative at all.. more of an annoyance if anything. Right out of the blue you tell this guy he hates this country just because he is listening to many sides of the issue and one side happens to be against the US?? So you think he's against the USA? You are not as patriotic as you think you are. You are seriously twisted with your partisan bull... you clearly have limited life experience. You seem incredibly shallow. He is not bringing up issues about left or right. He is bringing up issues about the class divides, racial divides, the division between countries, government corruption on all sides and Chomsky is literally calling out all sides and because one side is against you, you get all partisan?? :) You are stuck inside politics. You are so shallow and self centered and you cannot see this in your self. Most people here are too nice to say anything about your absolutely annoying comments... they just move on. I only attack you, because you attack others. You do this through all your little comments, you're just a bully with a bully mentality. Is that what you want people to think conservatives are? You are the epitome of the types of people and corporations, politicians, that Chomsky speaks out about... I hope you realize this.

[@williammdsilva]

Straight fire 🔥 in 2020

[@garystevenson5560]

I read this in a novel (I think ) For social justice, work, affordable housing, good unespensive Health care. Forget identity politics, have invisible brigades block crucial infrastructure (train tracks as an example) to promote claims.

[@koninakonan1078]

there is not one day in that countries history that one would be proud of

[@farooqkhan1149]

Noam Chomsky, excellent like always.

[@jordyndisimone666]

Is this guy pro American or anti?

[@rcchristian2]

@@jordyndisimone666 He's pro American PEOPLE, not government or military. He's pro Iraqi PEOPLE, not the government or military. He's for the little guy against the government, whether it be US, Canada, Australia, UK or IRAQ or any other country. He's for the farmers not the corporations, he's for American people, not the American government, he's for the soldier not the military, he's for the consumers, not the corporations. He's basically fighting for you... and every single person who is abused by corporations, military, government or politicians.

[@aerobique]

@@jordyndisimone666 🥴

[@standalby6949]

He does a good job for his masters I suppose , the truth will set you free kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3ive5WMatmjnZo

[@unseenseer]

@@jordyndisimone666 Read 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman' by John Perkins and Russ Baker's book 'Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, America's Secret Government, And The Hidden History Of The Last Fifty Years" George W. Bush planned to invade Iraq before he was even elected president. A lot more but too tired to write. Watch the Chomsky lecture for some of the IraqGate scandal of the 1980's involving George W's father. Then read the books about Clinton and the relation of him and Bush clans to Barry Seal CIA drug/arms runners. Then Daniel Hopsicker's books. Etc etc. Army intelligence lawyer John Loftus, the FBI and US covered for and funded the Muslim Brotherhood. US basically helped found the Saudi oil empire for top bids on oil. Douglass Valentine's booms. Etc etc. The state department and CIA and IMF and banks work and launder money with terrorists and are terrorists. Lots of scandals. Over 60 illegal wars. See -- The Film Archives channel for lots of old C-SPAN interview archives for authors and ex CIA, ex military, lawyers etc talking about this.

[@andyalive]

Keep cheering for the population, thanks Noam!!🕺 🇺🇸💨💫

[@PressHBCA]

The year is now 2020 ... how prophetic !

[@mikeparker7631]

Nah...he was fighting for this his whole career.

[@Mageuzichannel]

Where is the beginning quote from ?

[@bobbowie5334]

Shows you- when we _lose_ a war- it's for a reason.

[@helenoverton1758]

What a wonderful man such an intellect. His precise analysis of current events and trends is just amazing. I've read some of his books and i think they should be written in stone.

[@ShmoopDooper]

Agreed!

[@sk.armanali85]

I am still listening Chomsky. It is awesome.

[@icadoriogorgeousiano9454]

chomsky is an extreme leftist and a sympathizer of ruthless communist tyrants.

[@yarajamal1782]

Brilliant!

[@jonbiles5404]

It’s never going to end

[@lepidoptera9337]

What is? Life? Oh, no. Life will end, trust me about that. Life is too short, actually. The real problem is that the stupid people are still living too long and they get more stupid the longer they live.

[@lizgichora6472]

Thank you!

[@hoborock007]

No thank you

[@ronreaper9462]

no thank you

[@paduaprs]

Congratulations, Boston University, when we can comment. Joy & freedom!

[@lindaendres2209]

about 5:47.the young lady invokes the title of an article by Professor Chomsky entitled "A Modest Proposal'', I wonder if she has any idea where he borrowed that from?

[@elerychampion5565]

I'll be there for you you know I'll be there

[@fifteenbyfive]

*checks watch* It's been over 10 years since these students were keen on graduating and stopping these wars. Well how'd that turn out? I'll tell you. They went out into the cold cruel world and they didn't do a thing.

[@user-hq3lh4qo1l]

Honestly, I'd love to know where exactly they all are rn. On the other hand, you're right, if we haven't heard from them that means they didn't succeed. But it's more probable that they were repressed. The pressure one has to overcome to get to a position where you can change these global affairs is indeed immense. So of course only the most persevering would get the chance to reach such heights of their climbs.

[@michaellovetere8033]

They went out and became liberal left wing progressive politicians.........Who think they know what's best for everyone......

[@user-hq3lh4qo1l]

@@michaellovetere8033 well that's just a guess.

[@RonzigtheWizard]

@@user-hq3lh4qo1l An poor guess at that.

[@RonzigtheWizard]

@@user-hq3lh4qo1l If you only look to mainstream media you won't get ab information but that doesn't mean that they aren't growing stronger than ever. Mainstream media is owned by the enemies of the people. Look to the internet to learn the truth.

[@rattanlalhangloo4923]

Absolutely a very interesting lecture and American govt can learn a lot from this finest critical analysis that will be useful for country's future.

[@TsarOfRuss]

Hahaha who told you American govt doesnt know all of this?? they are not stupid, they are just playing games.. they practice "Extreme Capitalism" not "Democracy" .. they just rotate the commander of capitalism every 4-8yrs so it will look like the citizens made the choice

[@SameAsAnyOtherStranger]

Do you think they're not? They are taking very careful notes on how to disseminate how to approach a way to disperse their preferred narrative.

[@notserp7229]

if it perceived these things as mistakes maybe.

[@kamranrowshandel6395]

Noam Chomsky gives ordinary people, regardless of their age, the ability to pimp out the entire world population AND FOR SOME REASON ALSO TO MAKE US INTO CRIMINALS BY DOING SO

[@DrCruel]

Certainly you can learn to what depths the Left fascists can go. Like a living fossil of the useful idiots who made Bolshevism possible, except in Noam Chomsky's case it's always been quite deliberate and malicious.

[@kamustakabymmedianista4712]

Great discussion.

[@xikano8573]

1:17:30 Whhhoooooaaaa, dude's pissed!!! Kid in the military maybe??? Noam handled it like a champ though. Thank you Noam!!!👏🏽

[@helenlauer9545]

The most amazing and wonderful fact about Noam Chomsky is that such a wealth of inconvtrovertible, informative and devastating critique of US policy, and political presence, has not been assasinated. The world is not so bad as I tend to believe, since he is left to continue communicating. As I've been told it's because his influence is so intellectual and doesn't reach a significant number of people that he is not a target. On the other hand his expose of strategies of foreign interference I think in the Caribbean in the 70s re. the Bermuda triangle, was just suppressed. Fantastic teacher of international relations, whereas his professional influence is in linguistics. Why he has not received a Nobel Laureate is beyond me. Maybe he has.

[@rcchristian2]

Very true... his reach is not significant at all.. and most people who are nationalists are not smart enough to understand that he is fighting for everyone. They cannot see this past their own greed and bias. Imagine if this guy was ever president?? :) Never a chance but funny if this was ever a possibility. His message is worth an assassination, but his reach is minimal. Only intellectuals are finding his message.

[@jdolandev]

It's really a question of accessibility then for the powers that be in deciding who to assassinate. I'm by no means saying you have to be a rick and morty iq genius to understand chomsky but to really lead a people's movement you need to speak to concepts at about a fourth grade level for the working people to really pick up what you're laying down and rebel, and thus be a real pain in the ass from Washington's perspective

[@saskk2290]

@@jdolandev That is why Howard Zinn is the quintessential organizer and activist

[@loanauditscal]

It seems that KZbin has stopped dating the posts of videos. I'm I the only one seeing this?

[@LisaHouserman]

Maybe they added to it since you saw it but it says it was uploaded in 2010 and it was from a lecture in 2008.

[@marimota5083]

And since then we have seen the descent to chaos all over the world 😞

[@MOPCLinguistica]

Its still there, just reduce the zoom level on your browser.

[@mdspencer6580]

Wowwwww...

[@puffthemagicdragon9534]

Loan Audits CAL LMH - push the tiny triangle, and it reveals a date - nov, 2010.

[@user-zi1vy9er2f]

Your composure is standing

[@negrildoc]

Refreshingly still reverent. We are cursed to repeat our mistakes

[@jeremyreagan9085]

Noam is the only American thinker I take to heart. He is one of our last truth tellers.

[@GalacticNovaOverlord]

There's Chris Hedges too.

[@patmandew22]

@Ronald Reagan says Ronnie Reagan? Lmao sure

[@whothefoxcares]

With electrical audio amplification, quiet geniuses can defeat stable billionaire geniuses in oral arguments.

[@tinafoster8665]

Yes but why does Chomsky, even though he recognizes the pure charlatanism of the lawyer class of so-called founding father, still put any sort of stock in the Constitution? It was obviously written by criminals, it was never meant to be followed, and the point is people still keep pointing to it as if we can't move on because we have this great "Constitution". When all it is is a blank check to Empire, anybody with any sense can look at it and see that it doesn't forbid American Empire anywhere anytime. It doesn't stop American Business from making Americans homeless, it doesn't stop American Idiot Finance corporations from ruining Americans economic lives, and it doesn't stop idiotic American adventures in the military and economic spheres from starting Wars all over the planet. Chomsky sure does state every single point about American Empire, without going 1iota Beyond it. Perhaps that's why he's still alive

[@MysterySemicolon]

That first questioner never actually asked a question, does he?. It was more of an "I don't like you because you don't like America" statement. Noam should have just said, "Thank you for providing a stark example of exactly the kind of intellectual dishonesty I was talking about when I pointed out the mainstream university crowd doesn't like to talk about these things."

[@michel4080]

thank you

[@ElectricQualia]

Can any one point me to any author with the same level of scholarship and depth than noam chomsky? It doesnt even require him being left or anti war, i just want to expand my scope.

[@LisaHouserman]

Michael Parenti who actually came out with the concept of manufacturing consent prior to Noam Chomsky.

[@lookinaturmom]

@@LisaHouserman Wrong. The phrase comes from Walter Lippman's 1922 book, Public Opinion.

[@mck1972]

@@lookinaturmom , It is also a good idea to read & learn from those who have actually attained achievements in the real world. As opposed to, ' scholars ', who spend their entire lives in academia, like Chomsky.

[@eligho8767]

start with Professor Thomas Sowell. Then move on to Professor Jordan Peterson and perhaps consider the vast work of the Economist Thomas Freedman.

[@brucknerian9664]

There's a lot of authors out there ... try just one book, highly informative, more insightful than anything Chomsky brings up. "Operation Gladio ... The Unholy Alliance Between the CIA, the Mafia, and the Vatican", by Paul F. Williams--he manages to nail it. Then do a Google search for "The Money Masters" a 2 and 1/2 hour presentation/documentary on who controls the world economy, depressions, recessions, etc.

[@lukethomeret-duran5273]

2K pro-imperialists disliked this video. Do they know they barely benefit of american imperialism unless they are rich?

[@CultWhatever]

It starts at 8:00

[@mohamedoulkadi9259]

Thats a wise man right there. A man that speaks the truth no matter what the consequences are. Respect 🫡

[@DrCruel]

Who? Noam Chomsky? He's become rich shilling for Left fascists. He's become a US millionaire blaming the world's ills on US millionaires. The "consequences" for him have always been more money for himself.

[@HELPforPain]

TRUTH cannot be spoken by adults can be communicated easily when you hear a newborn baby crying for their birth rights to receive breastmilk then denied by females as they are suffocating or drowning the baby to death a.k.a. human free will must never be used to kill fetuses ever again

[@HELPforPain]

male dominance began millions of years ago must be recognized and eradicated ASAP

[@ruthdenova5984]

Professor Noam Chomsky, a universal intellectual and my brother, who professes the truth to the people of the mind, who gives vision to others to know the reality of the evil powers of evil politicians and their evil avarice for world domination. All my respects and my profound gratitude to you Sir Noam Chomsky.

[@gailshmail3420]

The big evils have come from the globalists, who are multigenerational fascist pseudo-left elites.

[@robertpowell9235]

And they weren't just founding fathers they were conquerors

[@melissamartin4123]

no conquerors decimated most of the natives because they did'nt like their skin colour or complexion...

[@solidaritytime3650]

@@melissamartin4123 I've got some be-wigged colonizers I know you'd love. True conquerors. Let me introduce you to Tom Alex George and Jim

[@FiguraMolenMedia]

Also slave owners!

[@mukeshchavda3804]

EVERYBODY DIG YOUR OWN GRAVE !!! YOU WILL NEED IT VERY SOON !!!

[@michel4080]

merci

[@Meow_Zedong]

Was expecting a lawn ornament, but I'm not disappointed

[@beth4893]

She's probably tearing down a statue as we speak

[@getamulletupyaoo7]

Great speech. America needs you. Well done.

[@gailshmail3420]

Anyone who backs AOC,as Chomsky does, is a sick puppy.

[@kaylajohnson3146]

You’re just afraid of a woman being in power

[@NwoDispatcher]

@@gailshmail3420 well chomsky is a communist

[@hoborock007]

@@kaylajohnson3146 Spoken like a woman and yes .. she's a nut job

[@jeffray5609]

Gotta love that Chomsky!

[@laurenalacroix5114]

i am... trying to do what is best for all... everyone, & to do no harm... we all need clean air, & clean water...

[@SeekTruthinLight]

America is amazing but for error in spirit. It is no small thing to feed the nations and supply provisions as we do, together in the way of meeting the need, of our labors of love, valuing the citizen. War is done in error of spirit in being subject to error in the way of overlapping interest.

[@robertpowell9235]

It's a shame a lot is still true today