Nobody expected 'very left-wing' Michael Moore to issue a film 'critical of renewables'

Michael Moore's new film 'The Planet of the Humans' marks the beginning of a "grand awakening" to the impacts of renewables on the natural environment says Environmental Progress founder Michael Shellenberger.
Mr Moore has garnered fame and accolades for his documentaries over the last two decades, and has himself been an activist for broadly left issues including environmental protectionism.
In his new film he exposes the renewable energy sector as not being entirely green or clean as well as criticising large corporations for virtue signalling on this issue.
Mr Shellenberger said Moore is a "very left-wing person who people did not expect to issue a movie that was so critical of renewables".
He told Sky News host Chris Kenny, the problem with renewable energy is its fuel is "very energy dilute, you have to spread a huge amount of energy collectors," be it solar panels or wind turbines, over a huge area, "so the land requirements are absolutely enormous".
Many people have politicised the issue of energy and environmentalism, but Mr Shellenberger said the problems with renewables exist "whether you have a capitalist society or a socialist society".
"They have to do with the inherent physical nature of renewable energy … the better energy sources have more energy, they're higher energy density that means you use less of the natural environment".
"It's impossible to just dismiss the people who are raising these concerns anymore as climate deniers or as right-wingers".
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[@captainkirk9879]

Hey ALGORE !..isn't Miami Florida supposed to be underwater by now ? INCONVENIENT LIES

[@eddyyammine9136]

I'm sure CNN will report soon that it is under water and anyone who says other wise will be banned

[@MeanGeneSanDiego]

Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine-Cava said she will protect communities hardest hit by rising sea levels, which eat away at beaches and leave residents particularly vulnerable to flooding during hurricane season .Miami is to invest billions of dollars to tackle its vulnerability to rising sea levels, a reality that already affects the daily lives of residents used to constant flooding. The city of Miami Beach-which is part of Miami-Dade County-invested millions of dollars in raising the level of many of its streets in 2016. The problem is so visible that, during the summer rainy season, it is common to see Miamians kayaking along flooded avenues and cars sunk up to their windows. www.miaminewtimes.com/news/climate-change-study-says-sea-level-rise-could-cost-miami-dade-32-billion-for-seawall-construction-11201008

[@ramstrong1961]

The truth has no political agenda

[@heliumfreak5364]

Yeah, if only it was true, i work in the wind industry and most of their conclusions are nonsense.

[@praisegod8635]

Helium Freak ... Most of who’s conclusions are nonsense... the documentarian’s or the renewable industry’s?

[@heliumfreak5364]

@@praisegod8635 the documentary. I'll give you an example. At one point they say that X amount of coal is used to make solar panels. And completely gloss over the fact that that coal will only produce power once for a very short time in a coal fire plant but in solar it will produce energy for the next 50 years. They show all these wind farms with poorly maintained, rusted turbines. Ignoring the fact that in Europe and Japan they are pristine highly maintained machines. The reason why the USAs turbines are so shit is cause didn't do the proper research. They were sold the fantasy that you can just build them and leave them running without maintaining them. Their blades (I work in blades) were falling to bits before someone told them, "oh by the way blades need maintaining as well". There is so much work in the USA for us Europeans to fix those blades because the USA never maintained them, and they don't have nearly enough skilled techs to fix it all... All because they weren't looked after

[@andrabook8758]

YES! :)

[@andrabook8758]

Truth - first, political agenda's - second

[@barryamato101]

The message of the movie to me is continued greed is going to kill us all.

[@sheeznutz2254]

Thats their plan

[@tonyl1483]

The leftist plan is to convince the world the green new deal will save the planet, thanks to Michael Moore he foiled their money grab scheme!

[@dennisswartz4937]

Count me among the people who said 20 years ago, "Told you so."

[@jamwhenever]

👍🏻🇦🇺

[@thegreenbean5891]

When the big tree huggers wouldn't comment on Bio burning and then he showed how much the big oil and coal donors paid them my jaw hit the floor.

[@johnmorgan5495]

I think you mean ' hypocrites' masquerading as ' environmentalists. People who have found themselves in nice little niches and can make a very good living. To see the 350 man pretend to not know his main benefactors , Come on ?

[@totsmini3105]

@@johnmorgan5495 ...Lets say they are "masquerading as ' environmentalists"... Isn't the Point that they have Exposed the Moguls who Willingingly Contribute to the Erosion of This Planet - because of Supply & Demand, Capitalism and mostly Greed! - Even if You had a cushy-job within that industry - You too would be part of a movement to Expose "Others" - that way you get to keep your credibility! :) - You do know Everything is Cyclical :)

[@georgitaylor2922]

@@johnmorgan5495 = It’s true the rich infiltrated the environmental club and stole $300Billiob from environmental $ spent 10,000- Only on bio destruction n kept amonst themselves 300B of $350B of environmental 350.0rg collection its in michaels’ planet of the humans! W/distribute list = TRUE ENEMIES OF PEOPLE R the greedy ALL seem to be friends of bidens’ NOW same friends got their eye on 300TRILLION IN U.S. climate fund $300Trillion

[@Sheerkat7]

It's hard to find the movie now. The wokists have banned it. It's an "inconvenient truth" for them.

[@atobpe]

You can watch it on Amazon - free if you have a Prime account.

[@tinageyer541]

I just ordered it on DVD .Amazon

[@artsmith103]

Watched it free on KZbin yesterday

[@KandiKlover]

@@artsmith103 it’s not free on KZbin you have to rent or buy it. It’s also not hard to find at all.

[@artsmith103]

@@KandiKlover Movie was free for me. How do you think someone would make a mistake like that?

[@onepom63]

When people hate you for what you’re saying, you know you’re speaking an element of truth!

[@albertrogers2506]

Not always. I hate Trump in part because he is a constant liar, although its worst manifestation is pathological narcissism.

[@occo9072]

@@albertrogers2506 Do you feel the same way now you have biden? He's trashing America & would sell it out to ch*na in a heartbeat, if there was a profit in it for him. Think that is the way he's heading. Glad trump's lawyer pointed out the videos and how they were manipulated to say something he never said & with the tweets too. Just think, if it can be done to him, it could happen to you.. freedom of speech is a precious thing for "everyone globally".

[@KandiKlover]

@@albertrogers2506 nice job idiot, you just proved their point.

[@KandiKlover]

It’s like Depeche Mode song Policy of Truth,

[@MrEdward1911]

Trump right again. Trump 2020. Cheers from London.

[@bevalee1533]

Cheers from America. BTW. I have a question; I heard a crazy rumor ( which I don't believe) that the Queen of England has allegedly abdicated the thrown? Some nut job by the name of Joseph George Hallet ..... I think was his name, filed some extremely verbose statement in the court, claiming to be Christ and the King of England? Apparently he also claims that the Queen mother? Queen Victoria gave him some kind of letter (before he was born) that ..well nevermind. He's a greedy heretic nut job imo. But I wasn't not aware that the Queen had abdicated the throne. I was just curious to know if you had heard anything about this?

[@mike70377]

The same Trump who legitimately thought injecting people with sanitizer to resolve coronavirus was worth looking into?

[@mikes6970]

@@mike70377 send me the link of him exactly saying that ....

[@electricdeckhead3083]

@@mikes6970 I 'd like to see that also.

[@lonepineX]

@@mikes6970 it can't, it's a CNN shhill

[@joshparrott8841]

Truth is not Left or Right. And what I just said is not political either. I think he must actually care -- mad props to him

[@incognitotorpedo42]

Moore's movie is not "the Truth". It's a pack of lies. Lies DO have political agendas.

[@pullmanstandard81203]

Agreed. Michael is waking up.

[@andysomerville8761]

Problem with renewables is they should be home based not massive farm based which also completely moves away from huge land grabs .......

[@reddysteddy2195]

Yes. Why not mandate that all new houses constructed must have a % allowance for renewable technology? Additional cost of construction would be minimal as most of the renewable technologies replace existing construction materials. Government authorities regularly add new costs to construction, why not add 2-3% for renewables?

[@docbrown6550]

I agree, But I Live in an Area that haves Hurricanes Tropical Storms and Bad Weather pretty Often, We would be replacing Solar Panels and other Stuff too Often..Not Worth it as far as the Cost.

[@docbrown6550]

@@reddysteddy2195 No Problem Mandate all you Want, The First Hurricane, Tornado or Tropical Storm that Hits you will Be Replacing it all, These Storms will wipe out your Home Plus your Technology. If you live in this Type of area you can't Afford Replacing this Stuff out of Pocket, the First Few Times the Insurance has to Pay for it they will Drop you like a Hot Potato.

[@margyrowland]

andy somerville Yes, Aussies really want any energy independence they might get from panels etc. That’s sensible.

[@andysomerville8761]

@Mr Krispy Personally I would have thought you would make a lot more money with smaller individual installation plus up keep, than large installations with the added expense of getting the power to the consumer. plus the land involved etc etc ?

[@randomroses1494]

Q. What’s the most concentrated form of solar energy? A. Coal

[@patriciariller3020]

And TREES 😩😩😩

[@brendamayfuller8803]

There was a biofuel refinery near where I live that went bankrupt recently. As soon as the government subsidies stopped, they went under. Without taxpayer money flooding into these projects, they fail.

[@hokitika4888]

Yes it's been the same all around the world massive subsidies to promote a green lie then the inevitable failure

[@pietermoorer3679]

@@hokitika4888 you people need to understand that this green politcal agenda is driven by voters choice. If they stop the subsidice it, you dont vote for them no more. Once the voting insentive is gone, we can have a real discussion on climate chance.

[@glenholmgren1218]

This is what happens when politicians with Liberal Arts degrees try to run practical things - ABJECT FAILURE! sigh, sadly, it’s not like we didn’t warn them either. However, people who socialized in schools of thought that doesn’t BELIEVE in Absolutes, philosophically speaking, FELT they were “right” ( don’t get me started on the twisted logic they use to go from: “There IS NO ‘right’ or ‘wrong’!” To: I FEEL that THIS IS the “right” thing to do ....”) and forged blindly ahead, all the while ignoring those of us in engineering and business fields who’s education, Training and EXPERIENCE was in making things WORK! Just as delusional, ignorant and solipsistic as a ... (I better not go there in this forum)

[@ewanhill677]

Max à Million - MORE energy? More energy than what?

[@robb3652]

The problem with political subsidies is lobbying. These people are completely working at the beckoning and calling of the elected official. This process is one big back scratching fest. Pass my bill I send you money and vice versa. Voting and complaining to the elected official... Minimal effect. Send money.... Big effect.

[@pappalazarou3940]

"Shun him! SHUN THE HERETIC!" This is what happens when a movement becomes a cult.

[@uncleouch9795]

They want the video pulled? Why? Is someone afraid of truth?

[@speckledjim9895]

The Left wouldn't recognise the truth if i kicked them in the arse.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

I'd love the truth. The film is full of lies. That's why I want it taken down. But you listen to Rupert Murdoch, so you must like lies.

[@joedisco]

Well the universal truth of the movie is that humans suck and we're absolutely trashing the planet. So glad we're all agreed on that at least.

[@TheDayZCowboy90]

@@incognitotorpedo42 "I love the truth, but only the truth that I like to hear; therefore anyone that disagrees with me isn't telling the truth". What a fucking moron you are

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@TheDayZCowboy90 You think Murdoch tells the truth? sheesh.

[@roncorbyn507]

When I first saw the huge wind farm in northern CA in the early 90's, I thought "What a terrible physical and aesthetic blight on the landscape"!

[@ZilogBob]

Those giant bird choppers are one of the ugliest blights on the landscape I have ever seen.

[@roncorbyn507]

@@ZilogBob Indeed!

[@occo9072]

Apparently, in England they are putting them out in the sea. How is that going to impact sea life?

[@conndapierce5869]

Wind turbines are eagle and other bird fields of death

[@joelc9439]

They are putting them in islands in the sea.

[@Grindsetillionaire]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. That being said, credit where credit is due.

[@renaudtheis1197]

Maybe he realized there's more money to be made catering to Trump voters than liberals. Go woke go broke in reverse.

[@renaudtheis1197]

Solid Snake That is true I agree with that. However « Trump voter » seems the best choice of words for people with common sense and decency. It was just a short cut.

[@almac9203]

@@renaudtheis1197 Trump supporters are some of the dumbest most retarded idiots alive. Bleach injections and eating light bulbs to fight Corona! 😂

[@tuberobotto]

@@almac9203 I see you've taken Trump's "advice" already 🤔😜😅😂🤣

[@almac9203]

@@tuberobotto I see comprehension isn't your strong suit! Perhaps you need a second dose!

[@Jason_g_kennedy]

I found it funny that you need a shit load of coal to make solar panels.

[@Dan16673]

@@allall-hz2ji start w you?

[@tellmelullabies5552]

In Portugal (where I live) 70% of the Energy is from renewables (5% biomass) and increasing. Thank you for fossil fuels for taking us here but now fuck off.

[@Jason_g_kennedy]

@@tellmelullabies5552 sensitive little princess for what was only an observation from that doco. Someone needs to harden the fuck up.

[@facelesstrader1351]

That's what you call the irony.

[@captainchaos7862]

@Hugo Silveira..... Sorry but you are sadly misinformed...."In 2016, 28% of FINAL ENERGY CONSUMPTION in Portugal came from renewable sources, an increase against the previous year (27%).".......... You have things reversed.......70% of Portugal's energy is FOSSIL FUEL....30% Renewable...................

[@michellefields3379]

It's about time the enviromorons discovered what sane people knew all along. Don't f#%k with MotherNature.

[@kendallstanes7140]

The problem is that he was honest

[@andrabook8758]

oh that's never a problem. give it time for the left to get over its shock and disappointment and they'll start being mad at the ppl who lied to them and focusing on real solutions. :) Like ripping the bandage off - bit of pain but for the best in the long run.

[@aaronvallejo8220]

Michael Moore might have been honest. But he used outdated energy information from 8 or 10 years ago. My SunPower solar PV panels are 22% efficient. The movie shows 8%. My 10 panels cover my 40 foot garage roof and generate 6,000 kilowatt hours annually and will for 40 or 50 years. A modern wind turbine uses almost a million pounds of steel but they also repay all their embodied energy in under 6 months and operate for 20 to 35 years. Grid connected solar PV in Alaska return 15 times their embodied energy...in Arizona 27 times. In other words wind over 20 years has 40:1 energy return. Alaska solar 15:1. Arizona solar 27:1. Heavy oil 3:1.

[@TomTom-xp2jb]

@@aaronvallejo8220 that's what I thought. Showing his true colours?

[@fondren001]

@@aaronvallejo8220 again the difference isn't even by 10% when it comes to that "outdated information" was we watching the same video because that was addressed?... Or did you just come here to spew that redundant fact you heard from someone else without actually watching the video thinking" I already know what this is about blablabla im so much smarter than the average because I don't believe in god duurrrr" Yeah that's you isn't it? 100% Just like how you probably couldn't be fcking bothered to finish this.

[@fondren001]

@@aaronvallejo8220 Wind turbines are shit and require MASSIVE gears the likes of which break down within 6months and need to be worked on. Congratulations! Your indoctrinated!

[@ringo688]

Is this the beginning of a pandemic of common sense?

[@pdarley58]

Chris Morfill well they’ve got Covid19 to pursue their goals for eliminating mass travel and implementing Agenda21, so less important now!!

[@rl5847]

We can only hope so.

[@electricdeckhead3083]

no, they have known this all along, it's just the time to release it now, at 46:00 in on the video it starts to make sense, blaming it on too many humans, it's a eugenics propaganda film right at the time we have a eugenicists dream virus released among us by the worlds richest man and self confessed eugenicist, who also by the way has plans to microchip you all, until this is realised we will not escape the current pandemic of stupid.

[@earthstick]

@@electricdeckhead3083 That's it. Now air travel and economic activity has dropped the CO2 emissions are down - a whopping 5.5%

[@electricdeckhead3083]

@@earthstick not sure the trees would appreciate that.

[@CADock-sm1di]

So basically the wind turbines an solor panels are doing more damage to the land that they are built on. Then the energy output collected

[@facelesstrader1351]

That's what we have been saying but leftist environmentalists won't listen.

[@ZilogBob]

They require more energy to make the things and dispose of at the end of their lives, than they actually generate in their lifetimes. But they attract massive amounts of subsidies!

[@andrewhanson9251]

Plus they require mass amounts of concrete, which is the largest carbon emitter, not to mention unreliable so you couldn’t power any system full time with them

[@zachbelcher3486]

They are back up power for coal/gas dams, use solar and wind during day plants at night. That simple

[@formworksucks]

It's a must watch. Reveals a massive scam.

[@DIgitusSmartas]

link?

[@aaronvallejo8220]

I hope you all realize the energy information in the movie and in this interview is outdated. The US invested a record of $55.5 billion into renewables in 2019 because they are fast and now cheap.

[@rhettcorbett3346]

But people with a brain have know that for years.

[@rhettcorbett3346]

@@aaronvallejo8220 Hahahahaha.🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@aaronvallejo8220]

@@rhettcorbett3346 Michael Moore used outdated energy information from 8 or 10 years ago in his movie. This interviewer is also intentionally behind the times on energy return and energy economics. My SunPower solar PV panels are 22% efficient. The movie shows 8%. My 10 panels cover my 40 foot garage roof and generate 6,000 kilowatt hours annually and will for 40 or 50 years. A modern wind turbine uses almost a million pounds of steel but they also repay all their embodied energy in under 6 months and operate for 20 to 35 years. Grid connected solar PV in Alaska return 15 times their embodied energy...in Arizona 27 times. In other words wind over 20 years has 40:1 energy return. Alaska solar PV has 15:1. Arizona solar PV 27:1. Heavy oil 3:1. In one year of construction we can build 500 MW of wind or solar PV for $1 billion.

[@Peace-lr7mt]

The absolute BEST documentary of Moore's and refreshing to see this coming from him. For one, I'm grateful it was made. Exceptionally well done film.

[@ronaldonmg]

Not the best, and Moore wasn't the maker. The maker could have used more accurate data.

[@patriciariller3020]

Looks pretty accurate. At least it gets you to check it out closer. Not just believe blindly like we usually do

[@REDRUMredrum-vr5lz]

Just watched it! Brilliant

[@justagirl8054]

@Karen Rehardt You'll cry at the end. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJyUYql_YpyWsKc

[@JIMDEZWAV]

I'VE ALREADY DOWNLOADED IT JUST IN CASE LEFTIST CANCEL CULTURE GET'S TO IT - : )

[@justagirl8054]

@@JIMDEZWAV Good on ya! Share it too.

[@threestumps7560]

Haha I just watched it too.

[@JIMDEZWAV]

@@justagirl8054 NO WORRIES MISS GIRL 😎👍

[@fasteddie7997]

This fellow did his homework on renewable energy. Not worth the impact on the planet

[@patrickroher4760]

The green new deal is actually kinda brown, some times with peanut particles in it. If you get the drift.

[@georgealexander8661]

Patrick Roher..You aren't inferring that our wonder- ful "president" (please notice the quotation marks!) is a PEANUT 🥜 HEAD ?!! And all this time I thought that he is a 🥔 HEAD !!

[@lada152]

Lol maybe corn

[@danhammond8406]

Corn, I don't remember eating any corn......

[@andrewwong1146]

I never thought I would see this day. Life is full of surprises.

[@NOSE-em2xb]

If there’s one thing I agree with Shellenberger is that nuclear is the only true green energy choice that can power our future.

[@FL3MZA]

And the nuclear waste? Not green at all.

[@occo9072]

It takes thousands of years for the radioactive waste to break down. 1) where do you put it & store it safely. 2) problems with melt downs, like in Japan & Russia. It's not green!!!

[@jjbraddock2702]

Wow, maybe he believes in facts leading you to truths.

[@DarkKnightTrinity]

He doesn't.

[@lance8080]

JJ BRADDOCK he reports B.S.

[@geo52041]

I firgured this out ten years ago when I was going to build a solar panel block . It is all based on subsidies ,so when the subsidies end the viablety ends also and then you have a waste product that can't be recycled very easy

[@darkisland04]

A very good analysis of both renewables and Michael Moore's new film in particular. Things are never as simplistic as they're presented in the propaganda.

[@jean-marclamothe8859]

Yes and also you CAN'T find a really simple solution to a complicated problem!

[@fusion9619]

That was a really good documentary. One of the best.

[@heathermariegaming]

The movie was critical of renewable energy, yes, but even more so the lengths we're going to keep the industrial civilization going,which is destroying the planet. We can't just switch one form of energy with another and keep industrialization going and think we'll live in some green utopia with that switch. We literally need to start changing our way of life to avoid rending this planet uninhabitable.

[@livethemoment5148]

exactly...thats what these idiot reporters don't get....ohh technology will save us....no it won't ...technology has only accelerated the destruction of the planet...look at the evidence....nuclear weapons, biological weapons, genetic modifications, advanced machinery that quickly cut down forests or manufacture products and chemicals that pollute the earth, ocean, soil, space...everything

[@maureenlouis8353]

If solar panels were installed on the roofs of every building and house (where possible), that would spare the land usage.

[@Tengokuchi]

I approve of this idea because I'm not against renewables on principle. I wish people would just stop pretending like renewables are going to overthrow fossil fuels.

[@walkermom100]

Yeah but if only they worked as expected.and you can't get the same results in every location. 34k later with solar pv on my house and garage for a 3k system I will never see any return on this. If i had to do it over again I would not.

[@kraziecatclady]

It's more than just land usage, The best panels only have a 30% efficiency, only when placed in prime locations, and when free from any damage or shade. Even scratches on the panel from sand or dust can reduce efficiency significantly. A small amount of shade can affect a large portion of the panel because they are usually wired in series meaning that the shaded cells also reduces the energy you get from surrounding cells in the panel. The series wiring is required to avoid damaging the inverter used in the panel. On top of that, the energy requirements and the pollution generated when gathering the raw materials including producing the panels, is far worse for the environment than a lot of people realize. Some of the panels can leach chemicals such as lead and cadmium into the soil which can be harmful for agriculture and wildlife. Then when the panels become damaged or worn out to the point that they are no longer functional, they become hazardous waste which cannot be recycled or thrown away. Also energy production does not always match usage, so sometimes the energy is wasted, while at other times, alternative sources need to be used to bridge the gap. This can be remedied in some cases with batteries for some smaller applications, but a large power grid for a city or industrial uses, would require much larger batteries which presents another issue. Lithium ion batteries become much more unstable the larger they are and are more likely to explode the bigger you make them. A battery large enough to store energy for a city or large factories, would basically be a giant ticking time bomb. This goes without even mentioning that current lithium ion batteries use cobalt. Cobalt is a pretty nasty substance with awful side effects to the people who are exposed to it in the mines. Most of the world's cobalt is mined using child slave labor in the Congo, so we can thank child slaves in the Congo that we have e-cigarettes, and cell phones... Things are a lot more complicated than a lot of people bother to research.

[@Tengokuchi]

@@kraziecatclady right. The technology doesn't exist to make it reliable and it needs materials more harmful to the planet than CO2, which is essentially plant food.

[@patriciagriffiths8482]

A brilliant film, very frightening in many ways, but it needs to be told. In a selfish way, I am relieved that I will not be on this earth to see the ongoing destruction out of pure power and greed. Soylent Green might not he too far away!

[@incognitotorpedo42]

You were suckered by this pack of lies.

[@kurtjohansson1265]

Nuclear energy can fix global warming . Quit freaking out.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@kurtjohansson1265 True, but wind and PV plus storage are currently cheaper. Future advanced nukes might change that. Moore's film is deceitful.

[@kurtjohansson1265]

@@incognitotorpedo42 that's odd, I was reading that nuclear power is cheaper then coal to operate, ( 30% cheaper ) and the reactors last about 80 years. France for instance has almost paid off their reactors. Once its paid off ( 30 year loan) you get 50 years of power for super cheap. But hey, I could be wrong

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@kurtjohansson1265 Well, coal is dying mostly because it's so expensive. New conventional fission reactors are super expensive because they take forever to build. You might have been looking at the cost of running existing nukes, which points out the idiocy of Germany , California, and anyone else who shuts down functional, paid-for nukes due to emotional paranoia. Or maybe you read about Small Modular Reactors, which look promising in terms of economics.

[@robot336]

HOW DARE YOU SAY THE WORLD'S NOT GOING TO END !!

[@brewman8140]

It`s like staring a fire rubbing two sticks together when you have a lighter sitting next to you. Renewables are pretty much feel good B.S that makes someone other than you rich.

[@kathleenlayton6613]

Just finished watching “ The Planet of the Humans” What an awakening call for all of us. It was a sad documentary: showing us the destruction of our forests and the hypocrisy of so-called environmental champions. We have been too naive in not following the money trail. A Must-watch film for every human on this planet.

[@richvangogh]

"You want the Truth? You can't handle the truth!"

[@NatasjavanDijknah]

I did like the doc, but I was quite unsettled with the 'too many humans on the planet' narrative.

[@terrythekittieful]

Well there probably are too many people on the planet, but worse, those of us in the west consume far more than we need, that's a fact.

[@ZilogBob]

Fact: there cannot be infinite growth in a finite system.

[@occo9072]

That's what the jab is for. Vaer website for adverse reactions from the vaccine's. There's a growing number of scientists and doctors who are very concerned about it's safety in humans. All other vaccine's for corona virus tested in years past on animals went along fine until they caught a wild virus, they "all" died from it. It changes your immune response and even the common cold kills. That's why the masks have to be worn. It's a very demented way to depopulate the population of the planet.

[@dontlooknow.]

His net worth is $50,000,000 . He owns 9 properties, including a 2 million dollar lakehouse. Have I missed some aspect of left wing anti capitalism.....?

[@feikotemme8736]

Don't look now Yes,you did.Because in Socialist Paradise,everyone is equal,there are just some who are more equal than others.

[@dontlooknow.]

@@feikotemme8736 Doublethink.

[@paulf.5261]

Never understood why we haven’t embraced wave power as a country with so many people living on or near the coast🤷‍♂️

[@dawne5139]

The first attempt at using tides in Nova Scotia both failed and killed fish. However a new version is being tried, which will not kill fish and will hopefully work well.

[@sutty6779]

I can't understand why people with these unproven schemes wish to use our money, if they are really convinced tide energy is the go why not put their own money up, they may even make some money.

[@adamfox1669]

Either toe the lefty line OR suffer the consequences! Hahahaha

[@druadhlus7693]

Will our politicians finally find their balls and bring back coal powered stations in OZ.

[@patriciariller3020]

They never went away! They still need coal and wood to run the "green factories"

[@druadhlus7693]

@@patriciariller3020 Yes and electricity prices go higher and higher...we have to pay for all the decaying bird choppers.

[@billleach3396]

I pointed out in my review of the video that they had two philosophical under-pinnings, both of which were wrong. First is that they hold to the Malthusian theory and the second is that they confuse crony-capitalism with capitalism. The energy density is a major consideration which is why all base load power should be nuclear.

[@billleach3396]

@Jolene In the U.S. that would currently be Nevada and Arizona. Another thing to think about is the amount of waste involved. The volume needed to store the high level waste to produce world's electricity demands if produced using nuclear energy would be a hole about 400 meters by 400 meters by 400 meters. That is a pretty big hole. To deal with the waste from say coal would require a hole (trench) 400 meters wide that goes all the way around the Earth... TWICE. That's 400 meters by 48,000 MILES. Now that is a BIG hole. Even clean burning natural gas produces more waste (and I'm not here calling CO2 waste) than nuclear. BTW both coal, oil, and gas plants emit orders of magnitude more radioactive particles to the environment than does nuclear. Finally, the Experimental Breeder Reactor II (EBR II) in Idaho developed processes to reduce the total amount and the hazards associated with high level radioactive waste. First EBR II produced its own fuel from uranium-238. U-238 is the most abundant nuclide and has the longest half life (6 million years if I'm remembering correctly). What the EBR II folks did was subject the waste to further radiation from the reactor core to force radioactive decay to occur. While America no longer does any research in this area, others around the world are advancing the technology. Such advances would reduce the storage requirements significantly (which is a gross understatement). I could go on but this should be enough for some research and thought.

[@stewartcaldwell5299]

@@billleach3396 Put the waste back in the mines it came from.

[@jasondonnelly3227]

Thorium 😊

[@jasondonnelly3227]

can’t make nukes

[@ronaldonmg]

No commercially viable thorium-reactors exist, and there is no guarantee that they will exist in my lifetime

[@marknordgard1916]

I think Greta are angry now 🤣

[@ZilogBob]

Yes, because a horrid invisible little virus has completely pushed her and her speech-writing Antifa daddy out of the news cycle. How dare it!

[@jonboy9912]

@@ZilogBob The virus should spend time being ashamed of itself!

[@alpatriot6227]

Let the truth be told! WWG1WGA

[@bartbattista6295]

What does wwg1wga. Mean

[@alpatriot6227]

@@bartbattista6295 , Were we go one we go all ! It's a movement to inform and Unite all ! Bring down the Corrupt banking CABULL , make society for the people bring back the family unity . Aresst or execute all PEDEVORES , PEDEPHILE , ORGAN HARVESTERS and CHILD TRAFFICKERS ! Main stream media , movie industry , Oil sector , Banking , Corporate and most Politicians around the world !

[@bartbattista6295]

Thank you

[@GeorgeChildress]

This film is about the impact of overpopulation, I am so grateful that someone had the IQ to get the ball rolling on the discussion about our invasive species!

[@ivorybilled8983]

Population reduction to a much smaller world number is the only way out of the mess we're in. I'm not advocating forced anything, but people can be incentivized to practice contraception and sterilization.

[@mostlynew]

Rusty Childress - Overpopulation is not problematic in developed nations, so I wouldn’t worry too much about your forced sterilization. Rapidly overpopulating developing African nations are already building coal and gas fired power plants to match corresponding demand for electrical energy. Interestingly, metro areas in third world countries attract and educate women that want to practice birth control.

[@ronaldonmg]

the world's overpopulation is mainly a matter of overCONSUMPTION in the RICH countries. Reducing the birthrate (preferably by improved education for girls so they can have a career outside motherhood) is a good thing, but in the USA the effect would be hundreds of times as efficient as in say Ethiopia

[@albertrogers2506]

David Attenborough, FRS, puts it better: In a world as overcrowded as this has become, it makes no sense to grow food crops and feed them to motor cars.

[@therealdjt532]

The water run off from those solar panels is immense. The land usage is vast.

[@moondog7694]

This is not the first time Michael Moore has said or written right-wing things. I remember he once criticized PETA by saying something like, "This is what makes me want to kick my dog".

[@danmccarron0]

THis guy is so well-spoken and even-handed, and his facts are right on. Unless you can hook up super-efficient sun panels and windmills to artificial platforms in the ocean, somehow attached to big-assed batteries, this will not be feasible.

[@zympf]

a "grand awakening" .. let's hope so

[@jonboy9912]

I hope this movie is the start of the beginning of debunking the renewable myth and fiddle!

[@brindlebot]

I have a PhD in environmental engineering (specialized in waste to energy and renewables). I got out of the biz years ago as the sector is run on lobbying, politics and government grants - not sound engineering, fiscally responsible investments and common sense. There's actually less real engineers and business guys in it than you think and it's run more like a social sciences university department.

[@408Magenta]

It's a good documentary. It shows you who is behind this alternative energy.

[@moesanrath]

Georgia Guide Stones Thats "their" plan for US

[@ronaldonmg]

Who is "they" ? Would you prefer to reduce average USA consumption by a factor of ten?

[@paulmurray3322]

I have an idea.., why don't we just go back to what worked before all this renewables crap commenced......Done.., all problems solved and no universities needed...🙄

[@joedisco]

all problems solved except the overheating of the planet and the collapse of civilisation.

[@paulmurray3322]

@@joedisco i Don't agree Mr Disco

[@charlytaylor1748]

Hee in Spain we live stacked up in flats. I don't know why we couldn't use windmills/solar on our buildigs to at least offset the cost of what comes from the grid. Here we get a lot of wind and sun. The energy companies here (not the renewable ones) are particularly horrible. I pay for my electricity via a renewables company and it's cheaper.

[@patriciariller3020]

At what cost to the planet? 😩😩

[@lyncrawford2109]

I am pleased I have seen Michael Moore film. He opened my mind. I want to be realistic about the world we live in. I prefer to be like this rather than ignorant. Most people find the truth depressing, but being ignorant is more depressing! Our future needs to be discussed in an honest way.

[@paulcaldwell116]

Oh my god have him stoned his talk common sense.

[@jean-marclamothe8859]

In fact he doesn't said that! They are still very lefty guys who means ; we are doomed if we not live in a cavern and eat grass!

[@1badpete999]

For once Michael Moore makes a rational movie base on real facts !

[@ronmartinez6146]

The big impact was just how these green projects pollute far more than they can ever hope to offset...

[@totsmini3105]

Planet of the Humans ~ WoooW, peels back the layers of the green movement corruption. A powerful documentary - THANK YOU Mr. @MMFlint!👏👏👏👏👏

[@tesherwa4528]

The emergency mode is enacted by the triggering of a switch. “This has huge implications for the climate movement’s communication style, advocacy, and strategy. Because emergency mode is contagious, the best strategy is for climate activists and organizations to go into emergency mode themselves, and communicate about the climate emergency, the need for emergency mobilization, and the fact that they are in emergency mode, as clearly and emphatically as possible.” - Leading the Public into Emergency Mode: A New Strategy for the Climate Movement And now, in 2019, we see how the strategy as laid out in the paper, has now been deployed in real time, in real life. “Since emotional ads create a deeper and more visceral impression on the memory centers of the brain, marketers are now measuring more cerebral responses to content using neurometrics tools like facial coding, implicit response testing, eye tracking, and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI).” - The Dangerous Power of Emotional Advertising, April 14, 2016

[@edwardgray7845]

why don't we make buildings power them self's, by putting solar panels between the floors of skyscrapers (on the out side) and turbine on the roof, won't solve power requirements but certainly lower the requirements it would also solve the space needed for these renewable energy sources , its a step in the right direction. maybe turbines pushed by people to both create jobs and turn bioelectricity to useable electricity, its a crazy idea but who knows it might work no pun intended

[@alanhaldane4114]

I so wish you broadcast into the UK, particularly Scotland where mud caves are coming.

[@noislamonazisdotcom9888]

This fellow doesn't mention that wind and sun doesn't work at all times and the storage capacity is poor.

[@juliandavidac]

90% of the comments: doesn't understand a sh*t about renewables , but loves to hate the left side just for being the left, and doesn't even talk about the enterview and the context

[@kenmbuco1675]

You need to watch the documentary first and see the hypocrisy and madness of the green energy campaigners

[@maryrizor4129]

God put all we need on and in the earth until his return

[@patriciariller3020]

Miracle cures and technology is coming! Glory to God!!! ☝☝☝🔥🔥🇺🇸

[@mikhaildenisov6889]

As a conservative I have always agreed with liberals on climate change and renewable energy. Going to watch the film now.

[@brettb9194]

It's a great doc first honest look at the situation from a left-wing point of view in two decades

[@88happiness]

It was so depressing. My main issue is that it doesn't give us any clear answers. I just felt helpless. And then the way it ended...😭

[@patriciariller3020]

😳😳😩😩 I was shocked! We have been lied to once again.....

[@88happiness]

@@patriciariller3020 I think some people are actually acting in good faith, but we can't reach a consensus and there's bad faith actors too 😭

[@adamhauskins6407]

There's nuclear but it was presented by a hippie soo...

[@nathanfleming1051]

Why don't "FACECROOK" advertise the bad things about renewable energy but they will announce if a liter of oil gets spilled.

[@2rcalkins]

Love Sky News. These reports are spot on and people need to know what is truly happening in the REAL World. The movie also never mentioned plasma energy, which is something I would have been interested in learning more about.

[@jamesesselman283]

Shellenberger is making sense now!!!! ....PRAISE JESUS !!!

[@paultaylor3169]

I have ALWAYS been a proponent for Nuclear energy.. ALWAYS. The facts and the economics / figures stack up.

[@tcz7742]

It's nice to listen to an individual that uses reason and logic to think through problems that face mankind, rather than the doom-and-gloom climate alarmist view of things that will end like a Disney movie only if you do exactly as they say.

[@raymorris952]

I've known for a long time that solar and wind are crap, But the Biomass energy thing is very shocking and worrying, That needs to stop now.

[@massagemenowApp]

Nicola Tesla's patents need to be released. We live in a quantum space, Energy is all around us.

[@patriciariller3020]

Some great miracles of exposure and discoveries are coming soon. God Bless!! ☝☝☝🇺🇸

[@frankdawe5156]

Thank you Michael, for your honesty, and your knowledge of such a controversial topic.

[@kamloopscruiser874]

I worked in the electrical utility for over 40 years. Solar and to some extent wind don’t work very well or at all in countries that are above 40 degrees north or south of the equator. These areas are just to cold and to sparely populated. Hydro is still the best renewal because the same water can be used multiple times to generate electricity.

[@darrenpat182]

The laws of thermodynamics hold the key to it all...

[@normanpouch]

I am a farmer in the UK. What is worried about space. I am getting 1980s prices for my crop and don't make a profit. My 10 kW solar system makes me more than my 100-acre farm. If I put my farm down to solar and sold it locally for the normal rate I would make a good income and produce fewer grain that's not needed.

[@NeverRideSlowly]

Mr Shellenberger is missing an important point when talking about the land use by renewable energy sources such like solar panels and compare those to the footprint of a nuclear plant. More and more panels are installed on roofs. Even better, companies like Tesla now makes roofs made out of solar cells, so no panels need to be installed. So a lot of already used land can actually be used for renawables!!!

[@douglasmccrary2345]

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

[@razorback0z]

What we all knew for years.

[@WILKSVILLE]

telling the truth IS a revolutionary act

[@optimisticfuture6808]

Great film. The film is misunderstood. It criticizes the politics of renewable energy in its current state. The fear is that by following feel good politics we are in fact diluting our ability to create change. The other theme is population. Overall the film leaves you feeling hopeless.

[@saramadison09]

So sorry FB has blocked your news , I love Sky News Austrailia. I like truth .

[@philsam4913]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that he says that solar panels need 400-500 times more land which means that 400-500 more areas FULL OF WILDLIFE MUST BE ERADICATED,WHICH TO ME IS ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT EVEN TO SUGGEST SUCH A THING

[@tankndg26]

He once said the Africa needed water welds to survive at only $1000 each, he’s a multi millionaire, why didn’t he offer to pay? He was angry that the USA wasn’t paying for this...

[@malcolmledger176]

Take personal responsibility for what you eat. No, or less, meat. No, or less, fish.

[@tkw3334]

I am I the only one who understood that the main message of the film was - too many humans. No matter what energy sources we seek we will burn out with 7 billion people.

[@Steven_Edwards]

If only we had lots of unused square footage on top of every building...there is clearly no room to put solar panels on every home...

[@pselec]

I have already sent it to all my students to watch it. The documentary is correct.

[@markharris5544]

The essential truth is that we can't continue to consume more and more resources on a finite planet. Most of us must live much more simply, If everybody got by with just what we need to be healthy we and the planet would no longer be in crisis.

[@AximandTheCursed]

So... how soon can Australia's nuclear ban be overturned?

[@AximandTheCursed]

@NibiruLives Considering Fukushima needed a 1 in a 1000 year tsunami and earthquake that killed thousands more than the reactor? I'd say we're good. Australia is geothermally inert and tectonically very stable.

[@AximandTheCursed]

@NibiruLives You can't detonate a nuclear device without setting off a myriad of alarms the world over (Not just in USA), and hiding the evidence of doing so is even more difficult, the only reason the tsunami did so much damage was because the seawall had been illegally lowered to 5m from the regulation 15m, and the backup diesel generators were in the basement, also against regulations. Had either one of those measure been in place, it would have prevented the meltdowns. Another nuclear facility 80km CLOSER to the earthquake epicentre was up to regulations, and not only remained intact, but served as a shelter for displaced citizens. Besides, we're not looking to install 70s era BWRs, but rather SMRs and/or molten salt analogues that don't need massive amounts of pressurised water.

[@AximandTheCursed]

@NibiruLives That was Iraq. This is Australia. Our environmental terrorists glue themselves to roads... or run for local office. Considering also that there are forms of wildlife that have adapted to living in Chernobyl's waterways, your statement strikes me as somewhat fallacious.

[@BelieveNoGod]

In this time and age, there are only 2 types of power producing that are viable, and don't destroy the environment as much as anything else. Hydropower, and nuclear power.

[@elisabethwilleminavaneveld5731]

I have seen Michael Moore's doco movie, Planet Human. I thought it was an excellent presentation. 🕯️🔥🎺📯🌄🥩🙏