Warframe: Six Years After Our Documentary (ft. Rebb Ford) - Dear Dwyery #05

[@filleis6374]

And that 6 year old documentary made me aware of and got me into warframe. Now I have 2600h in the game, thank you Noclip and thank you DE.

[@angelicgamer131]

I love how Rebecca says she’s not a Business person because it shows in her leadership and how that effects the game feel. I makes it feel more like a passion project then a money maker like they want to make it as fun as possible.

[@knowahnosenothing4862]

She's the real deal.

[@theanti-star7151]

​@@knowahnosenothing4862I agree. It makes her superattractive too 😂❤ to be our Spacemom that is (I think she's attractive overall, the way she loves the community and the supporters. Feels like one big fam to me 😊

[@DawnAfternoon]

Best part is you can confirm she really has no background in business. She started as PR intern and now a game dev out of passion.

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

They do what they do because they think it's COOL, and that's why gamers love it so much. The rule of cool.

[@keroseno-po1pw]

Warframe is the only live service game that truly get better each year and keeps evolving for me Warframe is how Live service games should be Pablo and Rebecca direction these past years have been so great they heard a lot the comunity feedback and adapt to it and the devstreams from Warframe are the most entertaining to watch of the whole industry

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

Some people miss the old wf and I get it, it had a unique charm at the very start and it's charm keeps morphing, but it became one of the most distinct games I've played. Bullet jump is legendary the same way classic halo's hoppy strafy movement + attacks is legendary to me. Something as small as enemy highlighting has made it EVEN better, the speeds it lets me parse things at makes such a difference. It's one of the things I and others suggested, and (I'm guessing) Pablo was like YES. That said, I'd love a sort of pseudo-demake that's a bit like early wf or an interpretation thereof. The early dark sector concept from like 2003 could be on the mood board

[@Jenkkimie]

@@Gnurklesquimp2 I still do. I am a founder, +10-year old veteran and there were certain things I do wish DE would return. One of those things was that in the ye'olden times of Warframe, the infested maps were dark and you relied on a flashlight. It added difficulty both fitting the faction and in a way that wasn't directly about the enemy itself, but rather the unique challenge it brought with them. I think one reason DE steered away from it was that it's not exactly visually engaging the same way modern versions are, and it's an accessibility issue for those who are visually impaired, claustrophobic or otherwise anxious around "horror-ish" elements. So we probably will never see that, but the concept of environmental challenges still are a missed opportunity to bring fun elements into the game.

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

@Jenkkimie agreed, it worked really well with the atmosphere. I suppose they sort of did a nod at that with the zealoid prelade, iirc it got a bit darker in there. I also bet something like railjack could've been so cool in old-school warframe, if the game hadn't grown to be such a beast in a million different ways I could've actually seen them make it as continuous and connected as they were initially planning to. If DE ever makes another game, I know what id want most... well, 2nd to them doing whatever theyre passionate about of course. If they capture that same moody 2000's vibe, id be over the moon.

[@SimplySyra]

I literally shrieked when Reb said she gave her interior designer a picture of Emet-Selch to base her basement on. Top tier.

[@noosagi1185]

where is that mock-up photo thoo, i wanna see

[@spacecat278]

Still waiting for my mock up picture Also I would commit unspeakable acts of servitude for that man

[@Decaf.]

I'm glad Pablo said no we NEED him on the ground hands on shaping mechanics and reworks.

[@MichaelMcDonald20]

DevReb taking over is the best thing to ever happen to Warframe, No offense to Steve. Also Pablo is the 2nd best thing.

[@bulthaosen1169]

I thought it was easy and tried it but I can't. Is that a skill or natural trait?

[@RDG99]

I'll be actively playing Warframe for 11 years now in two weeks. DE doesn't always make the right steps but they listen and listen well. That's how they retained me

[@clovisbray754]

DevReb slaying, did you know our Godness Lotus can reach her nose with tongue? Very important fact about creative director person

[@Alexus00712]

Why are people calling her DevReb now all of a sudden btw? I've been following DE, Rebb, and the whole Warframe thing for over 5 years and I've never heard it before until last week's Devshort.. I'm so confused.. xD

[@clovisbray754]

@@Alexus00712 Devshorts, Devstream, DevReb - kinda fits in row

[@TKBadMoon]

Can always make time to listen to Reb yap

[@neuroflare]

Rebb at the Hotdog Conference "let me introduce to you… the Hamdogger"

[@yanshuu4244]

20:43 A reference to Excalibur is particularly poetic in the context of Warframe's direction, nice one

[@noizy514]

I've listened to the extended Warframe interviews several times. Love in depth, one on one conversation with passionate people.

[@radman_music]

its come full circle. you are now inspiring devs to join specific studios. i love this cycle of education.

[@jjforcebreaker]

Great interview. It's always great to listen to Rebecca. I haven't played in a few years, but still have almost nothing but positive feelings towards it. Such a unique, fun, robust, flashy thing. I don't think I'll invest so much time in anything else ever again, for various reasons. But might come back to it at some point, it just can't fully leave your mind.

[@TruxtonII]

"Behold, a basement of eld! Tremble before my glory!"

[@diamondmagus]

Great interview! Rebb and Pablo and all the rest of the team has done a great job helming the Warframe ship after Steve and the elder crew stepped away to work on Soulframe. The focus on tons of quality of life stuff, fixing older systems again and again to make the work just right, it's been really good. And I'm not at all surprised Rebb has an Emet-Selch themed basement. That's exactly the sort of unhinged I'd expect from her.

[@zmbp]

Amazing. It's always interesting hearing from DE and Reb specifically.

[@Mosesdjr]

This episode with Reb reminded me of how much I truly love her, DE, and Warframe. They make mistakes, like the Dante nerf that I will never forgive them for, but despite that, they've created something magical. I am also reminded of how kind, compassionate, and fair they are. They have something that 99% of other game developers do not have, which is integrity and genuine attentiveness to their player base. Thank you, Reb and DE. I've been hard on you at times, but it's because I love this game as much as you all do, and I promise to keep playing and supporting this game we all love.

[@BloodyDIMISIS55]

i was on a break when it happened but What Is Dantes Nerf?

[@Prof_Pangloss]

​​@@BloodyDIMISIS55they hit Dante's dark verse and tragedy with a line-of-sight requirement that makes it feel much less good and consistent compared to launch. Between the nerf not feeling necessary and also it happening less than a week after his release people have felt particularly burnt by it Personally I think Dante is still extremely strong, the "nuke everything with dark verse and tragedy" playstyle is just less obviously dominant. Anyone still feeling burnt by the nerf should really try a Noctua damage focused build and see that he's still an absolute blast to use.

[@BloodyDIMISIS55]

@@Prof_Pangloss yah the complaining is stupid, my Dante giving my entire team 50K overguard and 8 fucking mill nuke on all enemies on sight is insane.

[@Prof_Pangloss]

My (not so) hot take is that the LoS addition wasn't necessary. The issue is that the base damage of Tragedy acted as a tile-wide nuke through walls for any enemies under lvl 20 or so. Higher range than titania thermal sunder with significantly less investment needed, so for newer players buying Dante with platinum I can see how that became disruptive in non-steel path content. If they had removed the base damage on tragedy, so it would only affect enemies that had already been primed in some way, I think that would've solved the low level mission dominance without affecting the fun we had in high end content.

[@Prof_Pangloss]

But at the end of the day Dante is still insanely good and the nerf is not at all worth holding a grudge over. Call it a misstep but move on ffs.

[@ninjor9800]

She really is awesome. I've never regretted buying the founder package, and i hope we get decades of Warframe content from Rebecca and the rest of the team.

[@Nanoqtran]

The original vid is one of the reason I actually now buy currency every blue moon. Its not that i like spending money but rather I would like to see the industry copy many of warframes monitization strategy. They are a good example of how to build a community and staying alive without being extreamly predatory and i think the entire industry should learn from them.

[@MichaelJM]

The noclip doc is why I started playing Warframe and knowing their story and seeing how they tried not to be predatory - it definitely made spending money in game a bit easier. It's nice to know the money is going to support a great team of artists who care. I'd like to think their success is borne out of trying to make a quality game that players will enjoy rather than any monetization loop. The industry could learn a lot from DE.

[@QuietDarkness27]

I read somewhere, that the problem with “the industry” is not that they want some money, but that they want as much money as they can get (with as little work to boot I reckon). The thing about DE is that they know their limits. They have been up against the ropes before, so they know what “work” is required and for what kind of money. Also, DE actively shows their work on a regular basis, so we can’t make the above claim for them (as much money as possible with as little work as possible). I hesitate to say DE is happy with “enough”, and the truth is that they prioritize the wellbeing of the community over the monetization, and because of that the community continues to care for DE by engaging with the monetization strategies. DE respects the ecosystem of the community, whereas other “suits” from other games just want to squeeze as much revenue out of the market as possible.

[@Nanoqtran]

@@QuietDarkness27 So from what i've learned it generally falls on to what the "Stakeholders" want. In many games the Stakeholders are the investers and all they want to see is green for their investment. they care about nothing else. On the other hand some game devs want to provide experiences through their game. These two outlooks do not align. Experiences do not generate money, doubly so if its free. The reason DE can operate like they are is because they don't have to make specific marks for their investors. They only technically need enough money to fund their team and their projects. We've seen it with Larian Studios. Having a publisher or investors that aren't in for your game causes issues (business people looking for money). They make the games worse and the system around them inherently predatory.

[@jombii-7090]

Steve's creative vision was absolutely awesome, i love that man. You can tell he genuinely loves video games However, (hot take) im loving Rebecca's creative leadership for Warframe even moreso. You can tell she loves Warframe just as much as Steve

[@seraphoxillidun3340]

Played since Fortuna on Switch, and the one thing that kept me coming back was the eccentric approach to mechanics. The damage system is something that is constantly being fleshed out and nuances that can be discovered can make and break builds. It's also a sense of non-predatory monetization that is not only bearable, but fair to the players and studios. DE is the only company I am happy to throw money at, since they have provided me 5200h of value and gameplay

[@BasementMinions]

Really fascinating to hear her perspective. Firstly that she wasn't the first pick for the role, first pick makes sense now that I hear who it is and I'm sure he would have done a great job but when I heard they were choosing Rebecca to pick up the mantle it just felt so perfect. Totally understand her sentiment of wanting to walk away from the games industry if and when her Warframe career ends, but happy to hear she's in it for the long run.

[@Digressive]

Great episode Danny, always great to hear from DevRebb. When Rebb took over as the captain of the ship I was ecstatic. Megan, Pablo and the rest of the team all work so well together, it's heart warming to experience. Thanks DE

[@RyanRipley69]

loved this, love rebb and love hearing you two talk!

[@Moscatinka]

6 years and a bit ago I was done with Elder Scrolls Online and looking for a new challenge to sink my teeth in. One of my fellow clan members in ESO had mentioned Warframe a few times. I have always been a huge Sci-Fi fan and was getting frustrated with all the Tolkien inspired games that dotted the MMO landscape so a game like Warframe sounded pretty good. When I looked for some gameplay on YT I found the NoClip docu on DE and Warframe and that's what pushed me to give it a try. I think it took no more than 15 minutes to get hooked. The thing that really gripped me was the freedom in movement and motion, and the thing that convinced me this was worth sinking hundreds to thousands of hours into was the depth of the game and its many mechanics. After seeing multiple MMOs kill off their complexity and class originality in the name of PvP balance (talking about you ESO, where every class became a carbon copy of the others only differentiated by the colour of their particle effects) the fact that WF didn't really have PvP I took as a pro rather than a con. I'm now thousands of hours in, I've taken the occasional break to play some other games, but WF stole my heart and it never disappointed me. I don't think I'll ever stop playing this game, I've been gaming since I first touched a computer in 1981 and I simply have never encountered a game this good. Which is kinda mind-blowing if you consider this is a F2P independent game rather than some EA or Ubisoft mega monstrosity. The WF team gets it, it's a game designed by players and fans, rather than shareholders and committees, and that remains incredibly refreshing in today's game development climate.

[@Lokoso7]

SHOW US THE EMET-SELCH BASEMENT REBECCA

[@quipsilvervr]

The sound kept alternating which ear it was coming outta for headphones so it was brutal to listen to. That said, I give most of a listen so I could learn more about it.

[@spring3281]

I was promised a picture in the description!

[@rpglover101]

I've been playing again, and trying to find really great content like this for the game is hard. Thanks for the timely upload.

[@BuzzaB77]

omg an UT99 homage PVP mode with unreal maps would be INSANE!!!

[@zrugel]

dang, this was great. learned a few things but more than that it made me smile and laugh a few times. also, this was very well edited, kudos to your editor.

[@VELI-Productions]

Okay this podcast was awesome, and I am going to go watch the doc on Warframe now, but YES CYBERPUNK 2077 DOC YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@kielajellopecjo2153]

A huge part of Warframe success is due to Rebecca. You can real feel her genuine love for the game and the community.

[@Kylestien]

I play FF14 a lot. I'm not sure whether I should be amazed or worried that Reb has a Emet Selch shrine.

[@Magus_Union]

Well, she really does have a type, sadly.

[@chilbiyito]

Give me the tldw of that character

[@GenericThrowaway]

@@chilbiyito Imagine a staggerly handsome man with perpetual sad face who watched his entire world crumble and explode before his eyes. Then he spends thousands of years to restore said world by destroying other worlds and killing millions, if not billions, of people. Then he becomes your friend(ish) because you remind him of a friend he had before the destruction of his world. Then he tries to kill you. Then you kill him and he is happy you did it because he can finally rest.

[@OPTIMUMELITE]

Tragic ​@@GenericThrowaway

[@spookmineer]

Great vid again! Rebecca has had an amazing career indeed. Starting as an intern and now creative director. Very well deserved too, she's a walking encyclopedia on the game. It's very clear from on-the-spot questions on streams, what's that syandana or deluxe skin, the name of that helmet, specific names of resources. She knows everything. I feel like she knows so much about the game and the community, she can "make the right decisions" every single time (deluding myself that there are single right decisions, and that they're made without input from a whole team heheh). As a player from the outside looking in, it made *total* sense that Rebecca took over from Steve as he shifted to soulframe. It was like "well, who else would be able to do that?!" of course it had to be Rebb, she knows the game through and through, and knows or senses what the community likes (or needs). Of course that is looking from the outside in, but I'm glad they had the same idea. What an awesome team. It's so weird having Rebecca as creative director for the game, and her voice as a guide for the tenno in game. Good weird.

[@RapidChronicles]

Warframe player here, thank you for insightful interview Danny! Looking forward to the Cyberpunk doc!

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

I remember when I heard Rebb was taking over being a little bit skeptical, because she was great at her job, but it's a very different job from what she had before, and frankly, big changes are fucking scary... but on the other hand I couldn't think of anyone who could possibly be a better choice to replace Steve than her, and she's gone on to prove it again and again.

[@OldSpaghettifactory89]

reb we want to see the emet selch basement

[@schobii5643]

Rebb who wouldnt love unreal tournament style pvp in warframe? comeon please Rebb, it would add so much to warframe

[@thatonepenguinperson618]

I think the Warframe team is too small for PvP to be a main activity. It might've been possible before Soulframe (look into Amazing Eternals/Keystone), but it's definitely impossible to do now without sacrificing future development on PvE content.

[@punipunipyo]

Warframe is still 👍

[@DasGanon]

The left turn into CanCon/IreCon is hilarious

[@techoftheblind1374]

I remember the other documentary that’s when I started playing

[@markshaw7792]

That sounds like my kind of basement so jealous

[@FlashMeterRed]

Oh no! we missed the chance for some Doorbell Music™ Arsecast deepcut

[@117johnpar]

Ignoring the rest of the BS thats happening in the industry and just doing the best creative stuff they can has absolutely been Warframes strength. And I would imagine Reb is a big reason why they're doing as well as they are in that focus.

[@MKR3238]

tried getting into warframe a few years back but man; its so overwhelming with its dozen of menus and subsystems, i tapped out quickly

[@Norpal]

They've done a lot in recent years to improve the onboarding for new players. Though on the other hand, there's now even more of those menus and subsystems. It's totally worth it, though. If you ever decide to try again, just take it slow and learn one thing at a time. The game doesn't require you to take in everything at once. Hell, I've played for 10 years and there are still some aspects of the game I barely engage with. And that's fine, I don't feel like I'm missing out or am getting an incomplete experience. It's like a giant buffet: You don't have to get *everything*, just fill your plate with the stuff you want.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

Heard a lot of people say this recently, and I always offer my help to answer questions or guide people to what they need to do. It's 1000% worth the time to learn.

[@garyneat9200]

If u can stream let us know I'm sure people will help u understand the systems ive watched loads of new players and when the stream there's allways people helping out . I'll gladly help u "if u want "im on xbox so if u are great could party up ,if not not sure if can talk between platforms as I'm an old fart would have to find out offers there .

[@garyneat9200]

I've started watching a u tuber play warframe Dimp 1y (I do that a lot love watching new players sometimes its good sometimes I'm shouting at the screen calling them blind bats 😅 .) I highly recommend u watch her playthrough as it would give u a better idea with mods and menus it will spoil some parts of the game slightly but the info outways that ,just a suggestion 😊

[@OPTIMUMELITE]

Be like. Try it again it's really cool!!!!!

[@PlayerSalt]

I loved warframe to bits but personally the endgame loops they put in now often are not quite as fun as back when it was just mindlessly blowing up screens full of mobs with a group of randoms. That said, rebb and the CM's at DE do a job second to none in the gaming industry. Id kill to work for GGG but if I could be a CM at DE id relocate to canada in a heartbeat.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

Rebecca herself, during the original noclip documentary, that if all they did was just add weapons or whatever week after week, they likely wouldn't have lived long enough to be considered special to talk about. Endgame is a tough problem to properly tackle, but the core tenet to remember is...loot games and power progression games advertise power fantasies, and when people obsess over making the biggest numbers, it's not really possible to just "make more challenging content" because the gigantic numbers typically overpower the challenge. The way that DE has taken those things in different directions and required more varied knowledge and broader experience to truly succeed I think is a perfect solution. In fact, I would argue that Steel Path Duviri Experience is probably the closest thing to a real "raid" that Warframe SHOULD have, as it does everything a raid should do BETTER than the original two raids...multiple stages, dynamic paths and wrinkles, tons of mechanics to work through, and a multistage boss fight at the end. It's not just "3-5 mission types with standing on buttons, calling out symbols and timing DPS phases." That's what Destiny thinks raids should be, and aside from being high budget and production value...mechanically, they aren't great...they're just big and flashy.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

Good interview as usual!

[@tag9047]

This woman is the goat.

[@alululululu]

it's been 6 years???????

[@selfimprovement5873]

If she sent you that final fantasy interior, could you link it in the description?

[@hoxyheart5479]

Good listen❤

[@itsKimi]

A big thank you honestly, i'm not someone who listen to a lot of podcast but warframe is so passionating even for me as a simple player. Giving us more insight in the life of Space Mom and the journey she's been taking since 11 years now is unvaluable. Learning about someone so passionate about their job and creating their dream game feels very refreshing in recent years of massive layoff after layoff news.. Again thank you Danny and more to you Rebecca and all the wonderful people at Digital extreme ! this game wouldn't exist without all of you !

[@malevellysian]

great title o'dwyer!

[@Thrax_Irons]

When Steve retires reb is gonna be ceo I just know it

[@MEYH3M]

Steve will never retire, he has been with DE since pretty much for ever. he will just step down to be a board member. just like James Schmalz who was the founder of DE and the previous CEO, he co-created Warframe with Steve in it's early days.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

OMG looking forward to the Cyberpunk 2077 documentary 💖

[@WizardofWestmarch]

Was that public already outside the Patreon? I don't remember hearing about it, only that Danny flew to Europe to work on documentary interviews.

[@Alexandra-Rex]

​@@WizardofWestmarch Oh, I'm not sure now. I don't remember seeing it go live at least.

[@WizardofWestmarch]

@@Alexandra-Rex It hasn't gone live. Just the way he mentioned it it sounded like he expected it to be public except... this is the first time I heard it, but maybe I missed something.

[@Allyouknow5820]

@@WizardofWestmarch Nah they definitely talked about before on the podcast (the Noclip Crew weekly one!) and a few months ago at that !

[@otaviosueth2500]

where is the basement pic

[@stryfe0]

Y’all remember when she got tricked into saying the N-word ?

[@EdgarAlvelo]

The oh shit look at her face

[@OPTIMUMELITE]

Lol 🤣