Everyone go and subscribe to Jack, his side of the story is coming soon. I'll warn you though, he's literally a wizard. www.youtube.com/@jackfromscratch
@bartolomeus4414 ай бұрын
Just saw his profile photo and immediately subscribed, what a lad.
@robertbullock10564 ай бұрын
Should I meddle in his affairs? 🤔
@cornnatron30304 ай бұрын
i just order a similar servo except the 750watt nema34 version to run with clough's leadscrew project but was wondering does the driver require a separate dc power supply or just 220v ? hope its not as screamy other wise i would have to try a nema24 stepper or order a nema34.
@jakemensing66724 ай бұрын
Only one video...from six months ago. Show me the code!
@jackfromscratch4 ай бұрын
Working on it! Life has been hectic so I'm a bit behind schedule - I'll have it out this week!
@Vapeti2.04 ай бұрын
making jelly in 4 different colors for 2 seconds of a video is crazy.
@NoEngineerHere4 ай бұрын
worth it
@SwampMonster14 ай бұрын
totally worked
@rameezsheikh75764 ай бұрын
When talking something related to video it is sinful to not provide the timestamp
@pithlyx4 ай бұрын
@@rameezsheikh7576 or you could watch the video to be in on the same funny hahas, but also 4:50
@sdspivey4 ай бұрын
That's gelatin for the Americans.
@EG4Honda4 ай бұрын
I feel like you need a PULL OUT function to go with NUT mode. For those times you want the thread to lift off at the end rather than cut a channel/groove
@ncot_tech4 ай бұрын
And a button to use just the tip?
@emilkofod4 ай бұрын
Just make the cheap lathe into an expensive cnc lathe :)
@recurvestickerdragon4 ай бұрын
if you can tell it to make multiple passes, call that SUPER NUT
@NGeese4 ай бұрын
And perhaps a SPLOOGE button to have the coolant running while cutting is taking place.
@AMurph794 ай бұрын
@@NGeese That's called the bukkake button. AVE covered this on his channel while programming some CNC mill stuff.
@grempal4 ай бұрын
Ok, now I'm starting to get really suspicious. Teaching a lathe to think is exactly the kind of thing an engineer would do. Especially without stopping to think if you should teach a lathe to think.
@MazeFrame4 ай бұрын
Someone looked at the "This machines does not have a brain, use your own" sign and thought "But what if it did?"
@grempal4 ай бұрын
@@MazeFrame I for one welcome our robot overlords
@burntalive4 ай бұрын
Also teaching the lathe how to nut. He's making his lathe more and more human every day
@junkname99834 ай бұрын
With a bit of mental calculation, an Engineer would be thinking, that's a waste of time, and therefore, he's not really an engineer
@grempal4 ай бұрын
@@junkname9983 Haha quit lying. Everyone knows a true engineer will gladly spend 3 weeks designing a process/tool to save themselves 15 minutes of work every 2 months.
@hey1steve14 ай бұрын
Inheritance Machining and Not An Engineer have made the transition from This Old Tony a much easier pill to swallow.
@bogdandrozdov66694 ай бұрын
Why have you had to transition from this old Tony?
@AndySomogyi4 ай бұрын
@@bogdandrozdov6669 Tony has pretty much left KZbin
@arcrad4 ай бұрын
He justed posted a month ago... @@AndySomogyi
@matthewpeterson33294 ай бұрын
@@AndySomogyi Not completely left, but he seldom posts anymore. I get the point though, and agree that these two have helped fill a void. I miss CaLem too.
@hey1steve14 ай бұрын
@@bogdandrozdov6669 The transition of his upload schedule. Used to be multiple uploads a month to now a few a year. These channels definitely fill that void.
@mvadu4 ай бұрын
4:05 "things were progressing at the speed of time"!! You make great word salad😂
@grahamcifuentes44514 ай бұрын
"overwhelmingly undertensioned" and "emPloying the purportedly perplexing power of the floating point " were decidedly delicious!
@jitenyasu4 ай бұрын
"Does anyone else feel like their life is an endless chain of projects, each undertaken with the goal of solving some minor inconvenience encountered during the attempted completion of its precursor?" Bro are you *sure* you're not an engineer
@yetihehe28 күн бұрын
He became an engineer by accident. He was soaked with engineering when he was not careful by spending too much time with engineer's toys. Now he is in denial phase.
@WatchWesWork4 ай бұрын
I've been exactly where you are. What really hurts is knowing a primitive Fanuc 2000C control from 1974 can cut perfect threads at 3000 RPM...
@peterklemenc61944 ай бұрын
Downright geniuses the old geezers were!
@scottcates4 ай бұрын
Beat me to it.
@paradiselost99464 ай бұрын
hypnotic watching a cnc cut a tapered square thread at full tilt... fecking hilarious watching the resident shop "fool" open the door too early and get soaked with flood coolant... on the first item of the day... "no change of clothes for you!"
@Jelckeb4 ай бұрын
Hello google, How would I best express my admiration for a KZbinrs ability to combine modern poetry with metal machining and programming?
@YanoTacchinardi4 ай бұрын
The upcoming "Hype" feature might be the ticket.
@recurvestickerdragon4 ай бұрын
pretend you are my father and are teaching me all I must know about the praising-clever-creators industry before I inherit the family business
@ununiqueusername4 ай бұрын
i was just about to go to sleep when this was uploaded. you are single handedly ruining my sleep schedule.
@NoEngineerHere4 ай бұрын
im really sorry, but it definitely adds to the immersion
@ununiqueusername4 ай бұрын
@@NoEngineerHerethats fair
@TheSproket84 ай бұрын
Legitimately same here😅
@austinpeter4 ай бұрын
Right there with you
@CrazyHatDave30004 ай бұрын
I just woke up and saw it, so my sleep schedule is fine 😂
@WoodworkingforAnyone3 ай бұрын
I appreciate that in your This old Tony smut pieces, you show your respect and love for the community by including the shop safety parts.
@richardmeyer4184 ай бұрын
"Things were progressing at the speed of time" - talk about a double-take. Thank you for that one. Others have already thanked you for the other great lines.
@sarcasmisthelowest3 ай бұрын
Yes, I have a person in mind for that one.
@InheritanceMachining2 ай бұрын
How the EFF did I miss this video? Gold. I could have used something like this for my current project 🙃
@ryansmith2094 ай бұрын
Right from the start, with the fake mic check on the torch nozzle (and perfectly timed sound of touching the real mic), I knew I was in the right place on my own lead screw.
@Mourt.4 ай бұрын
The servo drive is likely designed to work at a 8khz switching frequency. It uses DC to pretend like it has 3phase AC. in doing this it switches some solid state switching devices, like mosfets or IGBTs, at a specific clock frequency. It modulates how many clock cycles it leaves the full DC voltage on to approximate the power of a sine wave. Lower end AC servo drive tend to run a slower speeds, which usually end up in the audible range, you would want something at 20kHz or higher, maybe even 32kHz clock speed. The better ones even let you choose which switching frequency to use.
@allenomak4 ай бұрын
Bruh, do you imagine how high of an inductance the motor would need if you were switching it at 8kHz?
@martinelend58244 ай бұрын
@@allenomak Tell me you have no clue how servo drives work without telling me you have no clue how servo drives work
@johnathandodds99754 ай бұрын
6:45 Finally, someone who appreciates TOT as much as I do 😌
@PetesGuide3 ай бұрын
I was so happy with that I was expecting ToT to chime in here, but he didn’t. So I pinged him in his most recent community post and video. But as I’m typing this I’m hearing the author talk about foreshadowing and wondering if that’s related to nuts, so maybe I shouldn’t ask ToT to come join us here.
@BirnieMac14 ай бұрын
I’m glad it’s not just me that has a problem with hoarding filament you’re an inspiration
@matthewprice57494 ай бұрын
I'm only watching your videos on repeat to convince myself that my projects are going smoothly.
@bleedbloodred4 ай бұрын
All this threading and nutting, man i wish i was an engineer.
@likdev-25627 күн бұрын
I have encountered the same humming noise before on some of my own projects I figured out that it is generated because it is at the edge of turning it means that the motors are being powered to turn but the power isn't actually enough to turn it. It's this balance which caused my issue. I solved it by making some code changes and adding other electronics that I don't remember. I may be wrong but just wanted to tell this ❤.
@rorke044 ай бұрын
0:42 HE SAID THE THING
@prestonbiskey21054 ай бұрын
4:44 He did it again
@AndreasDelleske3 ай бұрын
2:54 ?
@rorke043 ай бұрын
Huh
@LabRatJason4 ай бұрын
I love how far you'll go for a gag. That Jello bit is hilarious.
@unixnut4 ай бұрын
People will be studying his content for 1000 years in order to extract the fundamental truths of the universe.
@timkin4190Ай бұрын
Your question at 2:17 just dobbed you in for "Being an Engineer"! That's exactly what engineers do... leap from one project to another. Also, it's an engineering project if you see a task that takes X units of time to complete, you spend 10^X units of time engineering a "great solution" and you manage to save X/10 units of time when using that solution!
@DaHitch4 ай бұрын
I feel like the lathe needs a "DEEZ" function next. Not sure what it would do, but you're the not-an-engineer, so you figure it out.
@xanderplayz34463 ай бұрын
It should release the object in the lathe.
@milanhin50244 ай бұрын
As an engineering student, I look up to you so much. Not only is the engineering in these video's at a level that I can only dream about to reach one day, but even things like content creation are so unique and well executed. Thanks for giving me imposter syndrome, I'm looking forward to the next vid
@AutoExpertJC4 ай бұрын
Dude, 100% 'Project Inception' here in the Fat Cave, too... Plus, if you complete one, two more jump on the bottom of the 'to-do' list. And I am an engineer. I was so good at it I became a journalist. Love your work.
@AddictedtoProjects4 ай бұрын
Duuuudddeeeeee!! You've outdone yourself on this one. Absolutely phenomenal project and video. Mind blown!
@jameso78264 ай бұрын
Twice in this video you made me actually laugh out loud, both times while chewing my breakfast and subsequently nearly spitting it all over my monitor. Your comedic timing is really improving.
@BarsMonster4 ай бұрын
That whine might be related to PWM of the servo driver... Which means it's likely unfixable. You'd want different driver for the servo. Or if it came from supplier - new servo+driver altogether... Alternatively - ask manufacturer.
@gutzb4ll4 ай бұрын
My sense as well. If you load up the shaft with your finger and it doesn't go away or change then this is almost certainly the case.
@MrTheomossop4 ай бұрын
You can change the PWM frequency in software in Arduino(I think the drivers typically just bounce the microcontroller pwm along). It messes with your delay timers and some other stuff but it's actually a simple fix - I had this exact problem, changed the PWM frequency to like 7812 Hz (low pleasant hum) or something and it was gone completely. Just add to setup: TCCR0B = TCCR0B & B11111000 | B00000010; and that should fix it (and maybe break everything else) B00000001 will set the frequency to 62kHz if 7kHz is still annoying, but the microcontroller or motor might not be able to differentiate the pulses.
@gutzb4ll4 ай бұрын
@@MrTheomossop interesting. What kind of motor/drive is this. I've never used servos outside of the big industrial mfg (AB, Fanuc, etc) on similar tier controllers.
@BarsMonster4 ай бұрын
@@MrTheomossop This PWM frequency is generated by AC Servo motor controller in hardware. Manufacturer definitely can change the frequency, but we cannot do it...
@mass1s4 ай бұрын
@@BarsMonster Many industrial servo drives and VFDs let you choose between a few different switching frequencies with a parameter.
@JRDavison4 ай бұрын
You may not be an engineer, but you are a great comedian. Was laughing and learning from start to finish, which is my favourite thing to do. From and engineering perspective, this is a fantastic project and if at the end of the degree you could produce this, I would think you'd be a brilliant engineer, too.
@raphaelgomes29474 ай бұрын
That thumbnail is absolute genius. The video also delivers on it too. Fantastic.
@davidspoelhof36934 ай бұрын
Asking for a friend...... How would one go about getting a copy of that "This old Tony" smut fiction?
@NoEngineerHere4 ай бұрын
This may violate our content policy
@PetesGuide3 ай бұрын
Everyone who asks gets a locknut sent to their wife for free, which can’t even be opened by the LPL. So I guess that’s more of a cage nut than a lock nut. How many screwdrivers will it take to loosen it up, and what are you going to do to the rack once you’re free?
@rdearАй бұрын
“Progressing at the speed of time…” caught me off guard and got the dumbest laugh out of me. Good work!
@militialpickle93043 ай бұрын
Just subscribed today, and I've gotta say, I'm loving the sarcastic and dad-jokey vibes in each of your videos. I just had to binge watch them all. I'm also loving the "make everything myself" aspect, it really puts into perspective how hard it can be to become a "maker" or, as you've said in another video, "artificer." Really good all around, and definitely looking forward to seeing more.
@subcatboy4 ай бұрын
thats nuts
@unixnut4 ай бұрын
Bravo! 🎉
@juliuspekar76204 ай бұрын
Funnier than most comedians with real original humor. Very smart with intelligent common sense
@bernardoneves94 ай бұрын
When I program PLC's to control servos, I usually use a basic style logic of IF(Curr_Position == Setpoint_Position) for 2 or 3 seconds I remove the enable bit of the inverter, cutting the power to the motor. This makes it run cooler and stops the noise coming from the positioning algorithm, but has a side effect: If you need it to react instantly to a run command, you will need to predict that the command will happen next and give the inverter the enable signal back before your run command, otherwise the inverter will need to "wake up" and energize the servo for a few milliseconds before the servo actually starts spinning. Maybe you can follow the following logic: - If you have reached the desired position, remove the enable bit instead of maintaining it on with the same setpoint; - If you press the N U T button, set the enable bit to ON but don't move the drive yet; - If the sync position has been reached and the drive is energized for more than 100ms or so, start the process.
@CNKXU13 ай бұрын
When one project gets in the way of another project and they stack up almost infinitely, that's my life.
@AlanShortySwanson4 ай бұрын
Your writing and film-making are excellent.
@MikkoRantalainen3 ай бұрын
Great video! This is the first view I've seen on this channel but you just got a new subscriber.
@username-mk8gf3 ай бұрын
Best title and card of 2024.
@ThePirateGod2 ай бұрын
Subbed 100% for the future of this and the potential that in the future I can simple buy a kit from you to convert any old lathe.
@Zodaxa_zdx4 ай бұрын
Doesn't mater if you're an engineer or not, an automatic nut button no mater the machine, truly is a righteous goal
@henmich4 ай бұрын
ANOTHER high end microphone. This guy is a baller.
@ryanlaudel70774 ай бұрын
The subtitles and the wit is hilarious!!
@jacklav12 ай бұрын
Skills! I like the power walk montage. IMHO what you need is an undercut.
@TheHENRY14984 ай бұрын
Endlessly fighting a chain of projects leading to more work…sounds like you really are an engineer.
@dncgame20924 ай бұрын
I always use auto-tuning in servo, then lower the "rigidity" to lower the noise. Xinje servo has a "Rigidity level" parameter. Mitsubishi servo has an "Auto tuning response" parameter. Delta servo has a "Response level" parameter. HCFA servo has a "Stiffness grade setting" parameter. That is all the brands I used.
@paulmeynell88663 ай бұрын
Your video cheered me up so much😎 it feels better to know I’m not the only one who gets bogged down in projects . Excellent video , how you have another crack at it some time in the future
@Steelcrafted4 ай бұрын
Your assessment of life just being one continual project, is exactly my experience. 🍻
@Jan-r6o6x12 күн бұрын
Same here.
@jimth92763 ай бұрын
I've been working on a servo project of my own and encountered a jittery servo problem when I assembled a quick test bed to work out code for various positions. The microcontroller providing the PWM signals and the servos have separate power supplies. I inadvertently neglected to make a solid ground connection between the two. Fixing the ground fixed the jitter. Just a thought.
@jfa30194 ай бұрын
You're not alone, my life also feels like an endless string of projects trying to correct a problems I had with the last project.
@ametti0004 ай бұрын
The effort to create the video is just as impressive as the lathe. Given that it's just a guy with a beard sitting on a chair talking to an OxyAcet torch .
@croustibat6824 ай бұрын
The whining noise usually comes from the pwm frequency used to drive the motor. The same happens if you try to drive led strips for example. If it is the case you need a higher pwm frequency, which might require a faster MCU. For that kind of project I like to use a cortex m4 based board, they have an "integrated DSP" that can manage fixed point floats pretty well, and lets you do field oriented control (FOC).
@RCake4 ай бұрын
This video is an absolute gem! A cinematic work of art 🤩😍🤩
@ToxTox4 ай бұрын
The 8khz whine you are hearing is probably the carrier wave for the drive part of the servo, it isn't part of the control loop. Some drives allow you to change the carrier wave frequency, but i couldnt find it in the manual. You could try to connect a servo emc filter between the drive and the motor to reduce the whine.
@RickRolling-tc7vb4 ай бұрын
I'm not an engineer either, but I would be quite pleased if I was as much of an engineer as you nearly are. Thanks for the amusement, extra thanks for the inspiration.
@kevincrawford68644 ай бұрын
Nothing like opening the machinist hand book and seeing 300+ pages related to cutting threads .
@rossherman45154 ай бұрын
After going through the same process a couple of years ago... These are some of my learnings. Maybe some strike a chord Use the Servo Drive Spindle pulse train directly to Servo drive Use the Servo drives internal electronic gear ratio (does it have RS485 or some other coms protocol available?) Switch the pulse source between the spindle and controller for synced / unsynced rapids. Feed two hardware counters on your main controller with the Servos AB pulse. If your main controller has another two Hardware Counters then feed the spindle encoder into that but it's not as important as the Servo Encoder AB pulse. Feed your main controller just the spindle encoder Z pulse to be used for spindle sync. This should help free up a lot of processing on your main controller.
@ЕвгенийПриходько-с1т4 ай бұрын
First accelerate the workpiece, and then start cutting when the acceleration is zero. As long as you are satisfied with the thread runout at the end, you should be able to write code that determines the feed rate of the cutter by constantly measuring the rotation speed. I would be glad to know more about the problems you encounter in this project and the methods you have tried to solve them. I am a young engineer myself and I love automation. although I just started learning programming, maybe in the future I will find a solution method where you got stuck (I will write to you in that case) P.S. Love your vids
@RoboArc13 күн бұрын
To fix that acceleration: here is an equation id use // in a loop If (distance < part_dist && motor speed < selected_M_speed){ Acceleration = (current_dist/part_distance)+acceleration^ 2 // apply acceleration to speed of motor. } Edit * i fixed it to make it more engineering freindly Need the part length, and the start position. Then it feeds back on itself until it reaches max motor speed. You still need to define a starting acceleration. Anything that's not 0 Also you need to take the part distance /2 so you have a deceleration curve as well. You stil need a little more code tbh to make this work, but thats how you'd essentially math it out.
@b3dubbs724 ай бұрын
As an engineer, you're far and away a better machinist and programmer than me.
@KingofArsenal4 ай бұрын
You deff are not the only one feeling life that way for sure, I for one (being nirodivergent), love this way of living now tho!
@alankeith78664 ай бұрын
There's another plus for this project. You got some extra cardio with all of the fro and to.
@cornboy34 ай бұрын
The annoying whine from the servo is coil whine probably just it holding position. This is a good thing. What you want to change is the motor pulse modulation frequency. Usually this is fixed by upping the modulation frequency above 20KHz which puts it outside of our audible listening range.
@drd19243 ай бұрын
That's sweet man, I'm a lazy egineer, I spend 90% of my time thinking of the quickest and easiest way to get something done I think I would have used a reed switch and put a magnet on the number dial which tells an actuator when to pull the lever to engage the halfnut, and then a switch mounted to an adjustable carriage stop to disengage the halfnut I am actually thinking of putting an Emergency Stop Switch on a carriage stop to unlatch the motor drive relay so the carriage cannot crash into the headstock if you walk away for a minute ... and it turns into 5 minutes. Some of those multiple fine finish passes can take 20 mins each so ya don't just stand there watching it like paint dry after you've checked your first pass
@geekazoid474 ай бұрын
Dude your writing is terrific.
@eliprotiva2224 ай бұрын
For the ac servo you might try the notch filter at 8khz. Also soft switching will reduced audible noise. Could also use 10 or 15 khz switching frequency so it’s not audible
@ichdu30204 ай бұрын
The whine you hear is the sweet sound of the pwm of the servo inverter output stage. And totally normal! Creating the sinewaves to Drive the servo by swiching with 8khz the (i assume) three Phases to the Motor on and of for the right amount of time to let it Look like a proper sinewave. Doing that on the three phases correctly, with the right Shift in between the phases, you can do awsome things with Servos. Even let them sing jingle bells. I did at least…. Oh where was I? Ah yes, two options: 1) may be you can have a look to the servo inverter manual if the frequency of the pwm can be changed. If you‘re lucky you can change it to 16khz. Than it should be gone. That will come with the cost of more powerlosses / more heat of the inverter. Bit since you do no back and fourth +/-3000 rpm 10 times a second, heat wont be an issue. Lowering the pwm Frequency to i.e. 4khz might be a bit more pleasing than 8 as well. It comes with the downside of precision loss. But that shouldnt be a problem on your application either. Be aware, you might have to tune the pid closed loop controller again after you were hopefully able to change the pwm. 2) These inverters usually have an digital„enable“ input. Set it to „0V“ if you dont need the motor. The pwm will be switched off. But the inverter still has power waiting for you to set enable again to apply torque, speed an squeeking from hell. So no pwm no cry. That works if, I assume, the leadscrew sees no load and the carriage stays in place if theres no torqe of the motor on the leadscrew or even no motor at all. If so, you can have lathe motor off -> servo off or lets call it „standby“. Or only on, if you enable it from your fancy dancy microcontroller (nice thingy btw). Or just during movement. The enable/ disable is usually quite fast may be just a few milliseconds. But since the Delay is consistent, you can take it into account in your code. And that Method saves power. Sry for the wall of text :D Hope that helps. Thanks for your vids man!
@nedblevins25253 ай бұрын
The motor whine is just the servo power section carrier frequency. You can't really get rid of it but you can insert a inline filter to reduce it.
@thomasmcgravie69324 ай бұрын
Fantasic entertaining video as ever, i can't believe this hasn't been done before? Not a full blown cnc, just an intelligant manual lathe!🤔😁
@randylahey12504 ай бұрын
FYI on your servo issue: Usually, 'velocity proportional gain' has the biggest effect on that overshooting/hunting for position issue.
@dascandy3 ай бұрын
ooooh, the lathest technology!
@LGAustralia4 ай бұрын
Not the hero we deserve, the hero we need right now.
@Gunbudder4 ай бұрын
i'm assuming your lathe will shout "NUT" in a robotic voice whenever you press the NUT button. now that your lathe has an MPU, it can say anything. you could even connect it to the ChatGPT API and give your lathe a personality and have conversations with it based on what its currently doing.
@NoEngineerHere4 ай бұрын
Machining and microwaves is way ahead of me
@recurvestickerdragon4 ай бұрын
TBH, what's really needed is a single voice clip: "Are you sure about that? Make sure to check your settings before proceeding."
@jonathanrichards5934 ай бұрын
> give your lathe a personality That's a really dangerous idea. It ends with the Sirius Cybernetics Corp., Genuine People Personality, and Eddie the Shipboard Computer.
@gcewing4 ай бұрын
"All the lathes in this shop have a sunny and cheerful disposition..."
@chaitanyakute5764 ай бұрын
i am a project engineer and that servo noise is due to Pgain parameter of motor decrease as much possible to eliminate that noise , the noise occur because motor constantly tried to hold the position at the motor is hence producing this noise
@LittleAussieRockets4 ай бұрын
A lot of effort man, well done 👍
@ZedDead-n3s3 ай бұрын
I've fought the 9kHz death ring before, you shall for weeks after enter work areas thinking you can continue to hear it. Look into the following: - EMI filter between mains supply and power to drive controller - Shorten and/or change out cable run between servo and controller - Wrap motor phase cables around a ferrite core near controller side and run signal and power cables as far away from one another as possible - A mains isolator is a good thing to invest in (for safety reasons) and can help locate source of intereference by isolating all injected EMI from mains connections (LED lights etc running in the room causing EMI) - Ensure your signal in&out of the Teensy are filtered with low-pass filters if you can get away with it. - Check if you can remove the Teensy controller , the PC connection through (USB/RS485 etc) from the setup and can manually jog the servo through manual controller commands without motor whine. Weird ground loops can form with connected hardware. - The controller setup between the teensy and itself may be a mode of EMI injection etc. Good luck.
@Emcipio4 ай бұрын
HAAS CNC mills have that axis whine too. Usually means (so I’m told by maintenance) that it’s a symptom of the power amplifier beginning to fail.
@username341592654 ай бұрын
The 8 kHz whine on your servo is coming not from the tuning (your servo loop can't respond at 8 kHz) but from the carrier wave of the IGBTs magnetically flexing the motor windings while generating the low-frequency sinusoidal AC from the DC bus. 8 kHz is a common carrier frequency in cheap servo amps, better ones have better lowpass filters to remove the carrier frequency, or to allow you to adjust it up to 16 or 24 kHz, generating more heat but pushing the primary up into ultrasonic territory outside the human hearing range (harmonics are still infuriating), or to adjust it down to a less performant but also less nails-on-chalkboard tone at 4-6 kHz. If your amp doesn't allow adjusting the carrier frequency, sometimes a few wraps of the UVW lines on a big toroidal choke can reduce it a little, but it's never going to go away. The easiest improvement is add a "servo off" idle timeout to your code to disable the amp when the spindle is stopped or when you don't move the carriage for 60s.
@Gaatash4 ай бұрын
If you want to try getting rid of the whine, i think it's parameter P0A-09. "Maximum position pulse frequency | 100~4000 | kHz". Near the top of page 41 of the manual (if i have the correct manual..) It should be called switching frequency or foundamental frequency, but I don't think it's correctly translated..
@ikbendusan4 ай бұрын
no. that defines the input pulse frequency; it has nothing to do with the whine
@Gaatash4 ай бұрын
@@ikbendusan You're probably right. In that case i don't see any parameter specifically for switching frequency. He might have some luck contacting the manufacturer, since it might be an implied part of one of the other parameters, but otherwise I think he should just get a better drive.
@ikbendusan4 ай бұрын
@@Gaatash it's a chinese manufacturer; he's SOL if he needs help from them directly lol
@Bata.andrei4 ай бұрын
I have an old CNC milling machine with DC servos that emit a 5khz noise whenever they are idling. When i first turned it on i thought it was broken and rebuilt all the servo drivers. Turns out it's a feature, not a flaw.
@glasslinger3 ай бұрын
The answer to this problem is called EXPERIENCE! When I first began machinework I had the same problem. After a few years I didn't even give it a second thought.
@mduvigneaud4 ай бұрын
lol! You got me with the "AI does a pretty good job of writing code, with some help." I was about to type up my internet rage comment starting with "Well actually!"
@vannoo674 ай бұрын
And it's not even November
@NoEngineerHere4 ай бұрын
No-notanengineer-november
@AndreasHappyfarm4 ай бұрын
I am both very entertained and extremely confused by your videos. Thanks.
@genioee4 ай бұрын
Haha, great video! The whining sound is the electronics, as you sure found out. I've yet to encounter a mechanical part that has such high frequencies. Since a servo motor needs to stabilize the position, it always has to apply some torque=current=annoying noise. You can get rid of this, if the pwm frequency of the drive can be altered. * You already found out, that atm it's running at 8 kHz, which is very typical. However, many drives do 32 kHz and this is beyond my hearing ^^...
@ravensquote72062 ай бұрын
(3:58) The i-card, I'm fuckin dead XD
@ndog12347654 ай бұрын
I'm not entirely sure, but I think this guy might be an engineer. He hasn't told us otherwise.
@MakeAndCreateSimon25 күн бұрын
I have had some thought about the 8Khz. This frequency is from the driver. 8Khz is the switching frequency that is efficient. Going higher above 20khz would make the sound disappear, and is less efficient. To remove the 8Khz noice use a LC-circuit filter. Use 10 10 µH inductors L in serie between the driver and motor (U, V, W). Use capacitors in parallel on each fase to ground. Size: 39.7 µF. If any other frequencies occurs consider an EMI - filter, of active harmonic filter. More expensive drivers have the possibility to change the switching frequency up to 20khz of above. Let me know if this helps.
@GilgaFrank4 ай бұрын
Someone else misses regular This Old Tony videos :(
@BirdbrainEngineer15 сағат бұрын
Many people have probably already said this but just in case... the servo whine sounds like coil whine, most likely coming from the servo's controller using some PWM to produce a certain voltage on a certain coil for the rotor to have a certain rotation. Some stepper motors and servos can have controllers that push this frequency to an inaudible one, but seems like this one doesn't... and because you can't change out the controller on it, I'd imagine, then there's no fixing it either.
@tagbon4 ай бұрын
pressed pause at purportedly perplexing power phrase to give my thumbs up 👍
@philip_fletcher4 ай бұрын
Subscribed to Jack - I'm a big fan of 'pair programming' - the sum of the parts etc.
@mattscimeca42884 ай бұрын
Came for the thread cutting, stayed for the This Old Tony
@WoodworkingforAnyone3 ай бұрын
As good as this was in so many levels, I just can't help but be disappointed. We didn't get a single shot of you holding the torch mic in your hand while casually relaxing on your couch or sitting crosslegged by your bed. Now it doesn't feel like we are just two friends. :/
@johnMcRock4 ай бұрын
In many servo drives, it is possible to do an "Auto Tune" this will often remove the *high gain sound* In other drivers i find the "stifness" parameter to be the magic button. Sometimes its called "gain"
@Martin-i7g8e4 ай бұрын
You've done it again lad Wacko 👍
@Swamp_Ig3 ай бұрын
"does anyone else feel like their life is a chain of projects..." Totally relate!
@pistachio88593 ай бұрын
@2:17 Flashback to Hal from Malcolm in the Middle trying to replace a light bulb. Goes to grab a new one but the shelf is broken. Goes to grab a screw driver but the drawer squeaks. Goes to grab a can of WD40 but it's empty. Goes to start up the car but it fails to turn over. Then Lois comes home in the evening and asks if he was able to replace the light in the kitchen. And, he goes "What does it look like I'm doing!?" while he's got the engine lifted out on an engine hoist. 🤣