Where do Saints quarterbacks stand through eight practices?‬

[@tjayd1225]

Nick is raising the bar on rattler so high, I’m looking forward to the pre seasons games cuz I need to see this

[@divineeternity7268]

I think Carr would love to pass the torch to Jake because they went to the same college but something about Rattler makes me think "winner" 🤔. He's different. ⚜️💯

[@mikestoltzfus9316]

Why? He lost his job in College and SC wasn’t ever a contender while he was there.

[@divineeternity7268]

@@mikestoltzfus9316 I just said it. He's different. He's nothing like any QB the Saints have ever had and I think that's a good thing. Plus before he lost his job to the #1 pick overall he was set to be the #1 pick overall. Now he can develop quietly without the pressure of starting and carrying a team on his back the 1st year like Caleb Williams has to do now. Could be a disaster.🤣⚜️

[@1001011011010]

​@@mikestoltzfus9316 One man doesn't make a football team. He was a bright spot for SC while playing there

[@divineeternity7268]

@LouisWinthorpe3 Right. I just feel like Jake is being pushed and nourished more than Rattler especially since he went to Fresno like Carr did and Dennis Allen pretty much picked him too. I think Rattler is a product of this new coaching staff.

[@divineeternity7268]

@LouisWinthorpe3 And I'm not dissing Carr. I know he's our starter and I'm not into hyping up Jake or Rattler taking his spot. I just care about the development process and getting a young QB ready to step up once the veteran walks away or gets injured. I'm not hoping for any of those two happening anytime soon. As far as the competition I think Jake has been getting favored over Rattler but I want the right guy. So we'll see in preseason where they stand.

[@shawneuro1944]

Jake Haener is the underdog . The only reason we talking about him is his work ethic

[@jordimandujanoramos]

Nah, people is excited about Rattler, and should be, but Haener has rythm, is accurate and very very smart

[@joybischoff9558]

​@jordimandujanoramos Last year Haener was horrible. Under pressure he folks. Rattler is better.

[@1001011011010]

​​​@@joybischoff9558 You can't define a player by his first appearance in a game. But he didn't do too bad and we won I think 2 of our preseason games. He's improved markedly now that he is in his second year.

[@eduardopoceros7737]

​@LouisWinthorpe3its weird that average saints fan obsession with a 5th round qb that most likely will be a career backup

[@pbm8264]

@LouisWinthorpe3 Yea. “Rattler has such a high ceiling!”

[@darnellwilson5410]

I believe based on the WR footage playing in the background that the team needs to acquire a quality WR if one is available. The reliable 3rd option in the offense is AK. With Jawan in and out of the lineup, if Olave misses any time it's not going to be pretty. Your thoughts??

[@davidalexander3724]

I agree. We have one receiver drafted in the first round, and then our next best receivers are undrafted and a sixth round pick???

[@shawneuro1944]

@@darnellwilson5410 I think Rasheed will be the break out receiver then probably get hurt then Chris will turn up

[@mikestoltzfus9316]

Payton manning used to fight with his o-line. Why is it a big deal that Carr did it? That’s what a leader does. If you payed attention the offense got better after that confrontation. As a coach I would want a qb to get in the face of players who are under preforming

[@mschanandlerbong4206]

It's only the haters that get mad at carr, blame the teams failures on him when it's a team sport front office to coaches and players.

[@pbm8264]

@@mschanandlerbong4206 Yea. The perfect example of them blaming Carr was the first Atlanta game. There were 6 things that went wrong in the red zone and only one was Carr’s fault. There was a penalty that negated a 1st down from a pass to the 3. There was a penalty that negated a first down run to the 4. There was a fumble at the 8. There was a dropped goal line pass. There was a receiver who messed up and stopped on a pattern. But all those silly fans talked about was the interception, as if Carr was the only QB in NFL history ever to throw an interception. They couldn’t blame it on one of their pet players, so they crucified the outsider. Real Christian behavior from “Christian” Louisiana.

[@marcoestrada2653]

You Carr Stan’s are wild 😂 the only reason saints fans call out Derek Carr is because he did not take one ounce of blame during the season, everyone else took responsibility except Carr. When you get a paid $100 mil and aren’t playing up to it at least don’t start blaming your teammates

[@pbm8264]

@@marcoestrada2653 He took responsibility. Y’all are just following the crowd and repeating what others are saying. Carr has always said, “It’s on me.” But you “Christian” folk in Christian Louisiana just have a toxic mob mentality and threw the new man under the bus.

[@pbm8264]

@@marcoestrada2653 Carr also said in a mid week press conference during the bye week that they will have the red zone fixed. When asked for specifics, he rightly said that he would not give any. Then he was criticized for not being transparent. Then, lo and behold, the red zone woes were fixed and they finished the season as the hottest red zone team and were like 15 of 18 to finish the season. I don’t know exactly. They were so good I lost count. But did Carr get any credit for that by the silly fans? And I would dare say that it was probably at least 80% Carr who made those changes, because Carmichael had no clue. The coaches stressed being disciplined in the red zone, because penalties were also a problem there.

[@davidalexander3724]

Mike really said they have 1 second to make a decision with the backup o-linemen. Damn.

[@rex2837]

We’re still missing our Chase Young at WR. How good would we feel with an Andre Johnson. Or more accurately a Keenan Allen or DJ Moore. We have a Chase Young at every position group except Wr. Rb: Ak. LB: Dd Safety: Tyran M, TE/FB : THill, CB; Latt.

[@pbm8264]

I called it 3 weeks ago, Carr will set the single season completion record this year.

[@SpasticRicktastic]

As of now, if Kamara goes down the running game is in serious trouble . The only real viable option right now would be to put Hill back there for a lot of carries,

[@davidalexander3724]

Agree. That’s the same problem at WR if Olave goes down. O-line is already bad.

[@darinwinn3538]

I know it's still early in installing and processing what they are learning, but I'm curious to know, as stated last year by Duncan, "they look slow". Does this team still look slow?

[@captaindeluxe7328]

I think this fully illustrates the weakness in the way the Saintss look at the future. No matter which QB steps up to #2 the other represents a wasted draft pick on a team desperately in need of depth almost everywhere. If Carr is the future, why in the hell are we drafting QBs?!

[@divineeternity7268]

Wouldn't we need our future QB after Carr's career is over? Jordan Love sat behind Aaron Rodgers for a minute before starting. I'm still not convinced he's that good though.

[@captaindeluxe7328]

@@divineeternity7268 Is Carr's future close to being over?

[@divineeternity7268]

@@captaindeluxe7328 It's hard to answer that. I won't know until we're half way through the season.

[@captaindeluxe7328]

@@divineeternity7268 So, the Saints gave big $$ to a QB they are not dedicated to?

[@divineeternity7268]

@@captaindeluxe7328 Well on that note. There locked in with Carr for the next 2 years with the possibility of extension.

[@mikestoltzfus9316]

Explain why you think rattlers ceiling is higher. Arm strength isn’t everything just ask Jeff George.

[@deizelmagnificent127]

They should run a 2 quarterback system.

[@siriusbdagalaxy]

Rattler if he’s what we thinking. Get him some experience. Possibly our future great steal

[@gregragincajun7968]

Rattler going be QB 2

[@LilRedRasta]

It doesn't matter who wins. The Saints should keep 3 QBs on the roster this year. We can't risk putting either of these guys on practice squad because another team will snatch them up. Carr's days are numbered. In 2-3 more years he's out of here. Why pay someone 100 million for mediocre play when your backups might be able to give you the same or better on a rookie deal.

[@woodsoncircle]

3 more years? Please no.

[@divineeternity7268]

Carr is out playing both of these "rookies" on and off the field. If that's mediocre then what is Jake Hanener and Spencer Rattler. Plus that 2-3 years could change depending on how the Saints perform.

[@LilRedRasta]

@@divineeternity7268 Stop. Carr isn't outplaying them at all. Haener and Rattler are actually running the offense as successfully as Carr. What does that say about Carr? When two rookies are almost better than him? Again why spend 150 million IF the drop off is negligible or non-existent?

[@divineeternity7268]

@@LilRedRasta How? You still haven't explained how there better and yapping all that bitter Raider fan talk. We saw Jake in preseason last year and he's not all that. I'm looking forward to seeing Rattler but stop capping on our veteran. They got a long way to go. Not to mention. I wouldn't give Jordan Love $200 million but he got it. Quit crying over money you don't even have to spend yourself.

[@thatsOG1]

We have Taysom as QB3, hopefully Spence at QB2 then let haener be on practice squad. Knowing DA & his Fresno St QB obsession he’ll keep Haener & we’ll lose Spence off the practice squad to the Ravens or Dolphins

[@jimbobruno4257]

Fantasy community is *obsessed* with Shaheed. Almost zero chance you'll be getting him at the very end of drafts.

[@shawneuro1944]

Derek Carr will look good I think it will look like Miami passing game and San fan running with more jet sweeps and across the middle . They will not be a lot of deep shot cause the oline is shit tho

[@marcdewain36]

I understand why everyone is hesitant to talk about Carr but he’s is a below average QB. We all know that. It’s time to find his replacement. He’s a stop gap QB. We need to look towards the future. Rattler or Jake in my view should get runs with the 1st team to see how they preform. Maybe not this year but they do need the reps to set up the future.

[@pbm8264]

Carr will be starting for 9 more seasons with the Saints. QB’s nowadays can play until their 40’s if they want. Carr is a tremendous competitor and will be 41 in his 10th season with the Saints. All Haener and Rattler are is insurance policies and future draft capital.

[@mikestoltzfus9316]

@@pbm8264 unless he takes us deep into the playoffs or to a Super Bowl he will be gone in two. Everyone will get their wish and Rattler will be the starter. Only because he is Kubiak’s choice. Heiner will probably go in two and we’ll draft another QB. Although I think Heiner would be good, this fan base doesn’t think anyone that didn’t play in the SEC can play QB. Lol

[@Gundam33]

Rattler all day

[@pbm8264]

So Underhill praises a 5th round rookie as having great arm talent and the most arm talent on the roster right now, and the best he can say about Carr is that he is “looking good.” Are they afraid of the “fans” still and that is why they hesitate to say good things about Carr? This just in. Carr has more arm talent than Rattler. He is a pure passer and a gunslinger from back in his days at Fresno State. He can make any NFL throw with accuracy. He has put up the numbers despite playing with dysfunctional teams including last year with the Saints. Give him stability and an offensive guru like Brees had for those 16 years with the Saints and he would have comparable numbers. And maybe better numbers because, as Underhill pointed out, Carr has a higher completion percentage than Brees had in 3 step drop back passes. He is also a good roll out passer and he has a stronger arm than Brees and throws a better deep ball. Why can’t we talk about that instead of fantasizing about a rookie tatted up and pierced up QB? That’s right. I went there. Carr is also a Christian and a good family man. He is the whole package. You would think that “Christian” Louisiana would appreciate that, and give him a modicum of a benefit of the doubt instead of treating him so ridiculously like they did last year. But maybe these “Christians” just follow the crowd instead of the Savior, and drink too much to think straight? There I said it. You would think that podcasters would have some responsibility in pushing against the mob mentality and try to bring some sanity into the Carr situation and talk about some of those things. Kubiak is the luckiest man alive. He doesn’t have to “develop” the next “great” QB flop. He already has a proven veteran QB who can make any NFL throw with velocity and accuracy. The playbook is wide open. Why don’t we talk about that?

[@mschanandlerbong4206]

Haters gonna hate. Carr is that guy, and every time players talk trash, he shows up and wins those games. Just ask Joey bosa.😂

[@pbm8264]

@@mschanandlerbong4206 Ha. Yea. And just ask Herbert who was kicked out of a playoff birth by Carr and the Raiders. But Herbert is a media boy and gets away with his mess ups and his not winning any playoff games.

[@NOF]

Saying Spencer looks good does not take away from Carr or make it a slight on Carr. And saying Carr looks good doesn't take away from CArr.That's a really weird way to look at things. It honestly doesn't even make sense. Sorry about that, but we're going to talk about these guys how we see them. If you think it makes it a versus thing to talk good about one or the other, then that's just not the conversation we're having. These weird debates aren't something we're going to get into. I do

[@pbm8264]

@@NOF You apologized last week for saying Carr looked good. Are you afraid of the toxic “fans”? This week you say Carr looked good without including an apology, but you praised Rattler for having the best arm talent at camp. That is weird. Carr clearly has more arm talent than Rattler. Overly praising Rattler only feeds into the crazy narrative that he should be starting soon.

[@birwinz]

Taysom Hill

[@Runningbear1970]

You both sound like the typical this guy was supposed to be a first rounder but he slipped to the 5th but you can only see the fantasy of it. Truth is right now is Rattler has proved nothing and nether has Jake. Instead of crowning him just let’s see what he does in preseason. If you bias was not so strong from what you say Jake is in the lead and till he is not. Give respect where it is do stop being what he maybe but what they are now

[@deethegorillionaire5031]

Rattler QB1 soon. Haener our future backup. We will have a good QB room. Rattler will sit and learn most of the year unless Carr goes down