Noir By the Numbers: Top 50 Films Noir Released After 1966

[@drnoir33]

Oops. The first seven films are actually tied for #46.

[@xkot6431]

Glad to see House of Games on the list, a nearly forgotten gem, and undeniably neo-Noir.

[@drnoir33]

It is a tremendous film, one of my personal 100 favorites.

[@xkot6431]

@@drnoir33 If you love "House of Games," you'll probably love 2013's "The Best Offer." Try not to read anything about, or even look at any visuals from, the movie before watching it. Another hidden gem that everyone I've recommended it to has enjoyed.

[@Badastro59]

Grear stuff, always looking for films ive overlooked, some of my favourites from this time period, Repo man, trouble in mind, payback, and Miami Blues

[@Giselle62]

I wonder if everyone's seen Cutter's Way? there are many i have not seen on here and the music made me feel so cool.

[@drnoir33]

I have seen CUTTER'S WAY, though I only vaguely remember it. Its 6 LISTS and 6.0 POINTS tie it with 27 other post-1966 films for #97. I have NOT seen 9 of the 53 films in my video; at some point, I will work my way through them. :) At some other point, I will adjust each film's LISTS/POINTS by the maximum a film COULD receive based upon how many of my 40+ sources could have included it (i.e., whether a source's time frame includes a film's release date). To take an extreme example, the 2015 film VICTORIA - the most recent film in my database - was released after all but one of my sources was published: NOIR CITY screenings. Indeed, I first saw it at NOIR CITY in 2017. Thus, while it "only" has 1 LIST and 1.0 POINTS, this is 100% of the maximum number it *could* have from my 40+ sources. This will "boost" films released before or after the "classic era" of 1940-59...ish.

[@pablojuega3312]

I saw it a month ago. Amazing ❤❤❤

[@pablojuega3312]

Ufff, Yakuza with Mitchun 😮

[@caravida]

Cool list-thanks- love neo-noir

[@drnoir33]

You are welcome, thank you!

[@robjones2408]

"Hickey And Boggs" is an overlooked gem. Featuring Robert Culp and Bill Cosby, it is the flipside of the optimistic 1960s, into the bleak early 1970s of Richard Nixon. Unfortunately it isn't likely to be reissued in the near future, due to Cosby's malignant status. It is a great film, regardless of that.

[@spikeysnack]

I get it but I let the work stand by itself, the players are not the work. Art is made by great and terrible people, and does not necessarily reflect who they are outside of it. It is not like they are pulling all the Wienstein Group Company produced movies off the rosters. That is like saying Bank robbers rob banks for the cash -- I refuse to deal with money because of the evil people do with it and because of it. Ain't nobody but a monk on a mountain that has a bunch of slaves to cook his meals and clean his clothes saying that. People do bad things and good things, and when you color the good with the bad you are falling into an emotional trap that injures humanity. A character in a movie is not the person that goes home at night from the set. By the way I think Cosby is running around free, he got let out early. His prospects for a comeback are nil in America and England, so his work in comedy, tv, and movies is all historical. It is always there, though, and it taints the work, which is unfortunate, even work done before any bad stuff happened.

[@robjones2408]

@@spikeysnack A fair enough point. Jerry Lee Lewis, Phil Spector, and Van Morrison were all/are offensive, unpleasant men but made great music. The list is endless. Chaplin, Polanski, Brando, etc were responsible for fabulous movies, but you wouldn't want them as friends. It is a shame that "Hickey And Boggs" isn't available to watch, because it is a stone-cold classic.

[@if6was929]

@@spikeysnack "before any bad stuff happened.", before any stuff was found out, he'd been at it for a long, long time!

[@if6was929]

@@robjones2408 Its available to stream.

[@michaelsamerdyke108]

Another very interesting list. Sort of surprised that 1966 was the starting point. I wouldn't have put "Get Carter" on the list. It is a terrific movie, but it comes from a British tradition, not Hollywood. Same for "Le Samourai.," which is, of course, French. But, overall, an interesting look at Neo-Noir. Glad to see "L. A. Confidential" so high on the list.

[@drnoir33]

When I built my database, all that concerned me was how many of 32 reputable/authoritative sources cited as "film noir." I was completely agnostic between "traditions" or labels (proto, classic era, neo, etc.). If it was cited as noir, into the database it went. Everything else, I leave to the film historians and critics. :) For what it's worth, 3 of the 7 sources citing GET CARTER single it out as exemplifying film noir, while Ballinger and Graydon's ROUGH GUIDE puts LE SAMOURAI in its 50-film Canon. In other words, your argument is with my sources, not with me. :)

[@melanie62954]

I haven't seen Get Carter, but Le Samourai is most definitely neo-noir. It fits nearly all the tropes. Akira Kurosawa made some wonderful noirs too. How can you restrict noir to Hollywood when its origins were in German cinema to begin with?

[@drnoir33]

@@melanie62954 The origins of film noir are rather murky, as I have shown in different ways in different videos, but there is certainly some German influence, yes.

[@sheilahard5886]

What is the incredible music that you have set this to??

[@drnoir33]

Thank you for watching! It is a Miles Davis piece called "Solea" from the 1960 SKETCHES OF SPAIN album. As much as I adore Davis, though, I actually chose this track because it was just the right length. :) That said, that bit of electronic music at the beginning is the Human League cover of the theme to GET CARTER, off their 1981 album DARE; that I chose on purpose.

[@pablojuega3312]

​@@drnoir33My Spain 😢❤❤❤🎉

[@javiersuarezleiva]

My mention: Gumshoe Stephen Frears 1971

[@drnoir33]

For whatever it's worth, of my 32 primary sources, only John Grant's 2014 COMPREHENSIVE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF FILM NOIR lists it as a "film noir."