There Will Be Quiet - The Story Of Judge (Part 1)

[@everettclunie3525]

“Like you” shaped my young life. I listened to that song every day for years, and eventually I started a band and we covered that song ourselves at the end of every set. 3000 miles away from New York, and 20 years after it was written, there would still be at least a half dozen kids and maybe even a fully grown ass man or two at the mic screaming along every night. It was amazing, a fucking childhood dream come true. I’m glad to see them getting some acknowledgement for the mark they made on hardcore

[@baker3person]

THIS IS SO FUCKING GOOD! please do more hardcore docs like this. also could you start providing a song listing?

[@JL-tf6vc]

Amazing that the guy is called Mike Judge and looks like Bobby Hill

[@damfeller6978]

It's true tho

[@RealSquares]

J L lmao

[@kookadams85]

HA

[@kaleahcollins4567]

🤔😁

[@veganlifestyleloveanimals1744]

Benny hill is more like it.

[@vadermasktruth]

I went to my first hardcorepunk show (CIRCLE JERKS) in 1986. I haven't looked back since! I'm almost 48 and I'll be into hardcore, punk, and Oi! until my last breath.

[@jessica_video_projects]

🤘😎🔥

[@jasonhorton]

I always wanted to see them when they played but could never get a ride as a kid. Got to see them last year. Finally got that ride I guess.

[@briantomcollins]

I hope this man knows how many lives he's touched... and even saved. Even for as brief a time as it was, that legend WILL live on. People like myself will make sure. Even if it's just introducing a new generation to that music. Maybe it can keep saving these outcast kids like me.

[@xotmatrix]

God, his story rings so true about the NYHC scene opening up for an outcast kid. I know I can relate to going from a simple question, to a band practice, to having my body battered and my mind blown at a CBGB matinee. I know a lot of us misfits can.

[@Noisey]

In the first of Noisey's multi-part series, we talk with mythical NYHC vocalist Mike Ferraro, better known as Mike Judge.

[@IHeartNoise]

Noisey The first time I heard their name I somehow thought that its Mike Judge of Beavis & Butthead fame :)

[@albertocalabrese6575]

+Ilya S You are not the only one

[@davenwatts8173]

I Heart Noise / Ilya S yup

[@hutch13pbbc]

in less than twenty minutes - 5 comments - two are dissing SXE (which i am not). Why are you even here? it's a Judge doc! Hardcore has been my life for twenty five years; and i have drank all of them. But SXE are a necessary part of my community - and one i greatly respect. I cannot understand how someone 'hates' SXE. Props to the filmmakers. this looks awesome! can't wait to see the whole film.

[@Unapolagetichoser]

word

[@hutch13pbbc]

***** i'm not crying, i'm just asking why people who hate SXE would be watching a Judge doc. It's not pretend, i've been hardcore for decades. and it's "you're", genius. Allthis comes from someone who listens to an autotune fake-ass singer named "Jiggy". "you're straight bitch whether i say it or not" - talib

[@JEEBUSLOVESOSAMA]

***** Unicorns are actually pretty rad, though.

[@schaugen94]

***** ????

[@theslaughteredlamb79]

hutch thirteen I get what you're saying, but there are plenty of folks who have had bad experiences with Hate Edge ( Straight Edge kids who went militant, and forced their ideals on others), so I can understand there being issues with it. I ain't SxE either, but grew up listening to the bands of the genre. I grew up just south of D.C., and there were a lot of the militant d-bag types all over that area. Also, some people just wanna start something online. So there's that.

[@meangene2345]

Can't wait for the rest! The filming is spot on! Professional work guys!

[@chrishaney8316]

I've watched this at least five times. This is so well done.

[@billyalarie2841]

he has such an intense speaking voice, it's really quite addictive. i wanna listen to him for like 3-4 hours lmao

[@rogaface]

Man this is awesome and so was that New Orleans sludge series you guys did. Thanks so much

[@carmichael3594]

This band was awesome, spawned from youth of today another great band.

[@davidcarolynvalencia2499]

This is STRAIGHT EDGE This is what we need to show are kids. STRAIGHT EDGE is not far right wing sympathizers nor is it racist. It’s fuckin respect and fighting to change this corruption from a crooked society. Change your self for the better and take care of the ones you love. Chloe Johnny Maxx

[@bevomcbevenstein]

Several songs are still on my workout playlist to this day.

[@first2letters]

Goddamn this is some powerful, compelling, and empathetic storytelling - Judge saved my life too but it’s really something to hear where all that rage and pain that resonated with me was coming from

[@sgilly80]

I saw them in 89, they were awesome

[@AmbergrisLVHC]

I saw them in ‘90 or ‘91.

[@centralscrutinizer66]

Lots of Judge shirts in Detroit. Definitely influenced local bent-edge crushers Pittbull. There may not have been a Biohazard or Hatebreed without judge.

[@calihardcoredotcom8337]

Such a great band!

[@wendyholden6871]

ivdq got plenty of straight edge friends but they aren't the type to beat the breaks off someone for them.drinking or smoking. THEY are legit but no one should get beat for doing something that has nothing to do with anyone else especially if they're mindiw their own business

[@jeffkirchberg]

Ty

[@Painlesslukerobinson]

this makes me proud to be straight edge and stand up for what i believe in.

[@gavhamilton999]

This is awesome. When can we expect the second part?

[@chrisspatz8811]

So sad. “The thief comes only to steal, kill, and destroy,” -Jesus. My Dad’s mom died a slow, painful death from cancer at home when my dad was 12. The nanny he had at the time because his mom couldn’t take care of him because she was sick, told my dad not to cry but to be strong for his younger brother and sisters because he was the oldest. I went through a lot of pain as a child and teen because my dad felt he wasn’t allowed to feel or release the pain of losing his mother in such a horrible way at such a young age. We need to take better care of each other.

[@michelrene7459]

What a documentary!!! Thx

[@SavageBunnyGetMoney]

Good for him sucks growing up with a dad that drunk everyday and your mom pop pills everyday too I can so relate

[@whniwsyrsndtrck3279]

When's Botch gonna do one of these? Brian Cook writes for Noisey. I know they did the whole "Oral History of Botch" for Alternative Press, but it's not the same.

[@bb-of3qz]

whniwsyrsndtrck Well that explains a lot, the mythology of hardcore and all on Noisey.

[@nothx962]

Man...Botch was AWESOME.

[@DividedLine]

This piece was awesome.

[@colddaze6680]

Its a good doco. Honest ,realistic.

[@BPMLatino]

cant wait to see the whole series!

[@jo232409]

This guy likes his fuck'n.

[@jessica_video_projects]

I was lucky to see them a couple of years ago and shoot some photography also...

[@thisissoicantroll]

do one about Warzone!!!

[@davidh6326]

Also ten yard fight

[@TheLexiconDevils]

Be kinda hard without Ray

[@jakedon100]

great doc its amazing how everything is a cycle

[@LINKISDEAD]

I love this. i showed this to my whole fuckin family

[@tor5457]

First time here. What stellar film-making! Enthralling, cutting-edge work. Can’t wait to indulge in what you offer!

[@seamusc508]

Welcome to the family of hardcore. School of hard knocks.

[@neon_one]

I could have swore I saw myself in the crowd shots even though I've never seen this band

[@ComradeLavender]

I'm highly critical of drug culture and grew up in the straight edge scene, but with some people, there's no nuance. I don't do drugs myself, but I always found it pretty ableist to view addiction in such a judgemental and individualistic way. While many in straight-edge culture are Left-wing, I saw straight-edge become a secular purity culture for many, which unfortunately easily attracts fascists as well, because they view recreational drug use as "degenerate." Addiction is a medical and psychological problem. It doesn't excuse the fucked up things some people do when drunk or high, but I wish straight-edge culture would take a more compassionate view and come up with solutions through solidarity. I just don't understand the all or nothing view anymore. I have so many friends that will smoke a little weed to relax and get help with their anxiety (saying "I don't need drugs" in a capitalist system with no universal healthcare is right-wing bullshit), and they don't get fucked up, neglect others, or hurt anyone. Most of them all avoid wild parties because they hate that bullshit too.

[@SkragorSkumdreg]

Nice blog post, reddit

[@dont.ripfuller6587]

I always liked drinking beer and hitting bongs and listening to minor threat and earth crisis, i dont understand the separation other than some people really need the identity anchor, but in the end, sobriety alone doesnt make a person better than someone else, its insecure to have such simplistic perceptions. I think most of us grow up and the lines blur, as we start realizing this kid can smoke a joint and still relate to the feeling of rage someone sober and angry is laying down, and some straight edge for lifers can come to really dig some guitar riffs born from wasted heads. Seeing Earth Crisis play Hell Awaits was a happy moment in my mind cuz there didn't have to exist this black or white all or nothing.it was like two friends you thought wouldnt get along hitting it off oe something. Hardcore will always inspire me and light my soul off, but in the end im just gonna be me doing me, however it fits or doesnt fit, it is what it is. 🤘🏽

[@colddaze6680]

@@dont.ripfuller6587 well said man, that's basically me too.

[@xp7575]

Well said comrade, very well said

[@cliffycashmore]

greatly put together !! !

[@djabthrash]

really good, looking forward to episode 2

[@Lupinotuum66]

"They got him down it's three on one , ten of us show , guess who won ?". How many of you have lived that little scenario ? Let me tell you there's not much that's finer in life than seeing or hearing a bunch of your guys coming to the rescue after you've been pummeled and beaten for a couple minutes , fuckin karma time assholes! Anyway, best line in a hardcore song imo. F.C.Skins for life!

[@kaleahcollins4567]

Absolutely

[@5amplewhor3]

Nothing more pissed off than sober people. Doesn’t matter if you’re sxe or not, the music and message is usually on point.

[@eugenkramaric1173]

Agree.

[@courtneylowery9067]

Excellent

[@icumblood35]

just listened to new york crew had to watch this again.

[@damien_strix]

lol how you gonna go from Judge to Fat Mikes musical thats like going from black to pink.

[@browndx]

Amazing; thank you.

[@johnnydidonna6081]

I love that every ad for this video is for goofy corporate seltzer! Hey! I know! Judge fans would love some cranberry pineapple peach lemon ginger vanilla splash from the same people they sing against!

[@BramsCommando]

HC 4 life

[@dumbdamage3988]

Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting dwunks!

[@lucan369]

Fuddy af

[@garciajero]

man this is good …

[@tomconner5067]

Put a seat on that EVO and let's ride, I'll be in Jersey this Spring

[@benjamincoats5208]

I equally like the background music

[@kevinpurcell6157]

Getting the hammers on my triceps today

[@evanabbott2737]

Awesome.👍

[@yaboyreege7158]

😂

[@chriscee546]

Legend

[@russelmurray9268]

Love this were the same but different

[@tymmac007]

One of the best bands ever!

[@AutisticRobotCat666]

More!

[@metalahhhhhhhhhhhh]

2nd time Im watching this the sound really reminds me of SOD

[@MOUNTAINLDC]

Why isn't there a Suicidal Tendencies Noisey???? & Warzone..whats up!

[@DeanElliotshoots]

awesome

[@TOMG12XU]

TRACKER TRUCKS TEE🔥

[@skeleton4837]

Respect 👊

[@blackkobra947]

Do one on turmoil

[@YungOb1911A1]

Yes

[@Mr74261000027]

Badass

[@junlingliu3790]

as baker3person below said it; this is an excellent documentary

[@scotttravis8654]

Mike judge looks like Necro

[@alleystargrowley2784]

Man i relate on levels

[@abbnohrmall]

I got curious about this band when a guy at the post office noticed my Black Flag patch when I went to pick up some records and mentioned Judge. I have never quite understood the whole "straight edge" thing. I don't sniff glue myself, but a lot of my heroes are drug and booze guys...A lot of great artists are...That is their trip, who cares? I thought "punk" was supposed to be about individuality...I never did get the self righteous trip.....I dig the "F. You" aspect, and if you don't like the fact that I drink beer, smoke weed, eat steak, drink coffee, smoke cigarettes, or even if I did sniff glue, what is it to you? And being a vegetarian of vegan? Are you kidding me? Some good music, but probably one of the weirdest and pompous "scenes" to ever develop....I get the concept of abstaining from druggery if that is your trip...I am a recovering addict and alcoholic myself, but to build a whole scene out of it with such a holier than thou trip to it....I don't get it.

[@abbnohrmall]

Definitely not...I came of age in the late 70's and 80's when the first wave of authentic punk was really popping....Been into the scene ever since....I have been "straight edge" in the regards of not using drugs and booze for a long time, but yeah, I will never understand how you could build a musical or cultural movement off of that....And if it involves vegetarianism or veganism, I am completely disinterested....The guy in this band "Judge" looks like he eats a lot of cheeseburgers though, so I guess there are loopholes. All of that being said, there is definitely some solid music that came out of the movement. But as for a "lifestyle" or whatever, I could never attach myself to this or any other facet of punk or anything else...In a way, that almost seems to contradict what "punk" has always meant to me. I was going to say "To each his own", but I don't know if that even applies if you are identifying yourself that closely with such a set of "rules"...Yeah, it makes no sense to me, but to each his own, I guess.....

[@abbnohrmall]

Oh, I get it...I have no delusions about being "straight edge" nor would I want to be. I chose not to do drugs and drink for my own reasons, not because I have made a "promise"...That all sounds really pretentious and gregarious. Frankly, the antithesis of all thinks "punk" as far as I am concerned.

[@tomr.1125]

abb nohrmall you're very correct sir, self righteous asshole scene/music

[@captainoctogasm4548]

Remember you're talking about teenage boys between 12 and 18 who have seen first hand what drugs can do. Although I was into the hardcore scene never been straight edge....lost friends over it. I should know I grew up there.

[@BallinlikeimMj]

abb nohrmall his part in the straight edge scene isn’t to be self righteous, he literally explains about his dad always being drunk and his mom overdosing on pills.

[@rena10009]

learning about hardcore bands from a place like this is possibly the lowest tier of poser possible.

[@rena10009]

go to shows losers. you only care about this band because people who actually went to shows found out they were awesome. there are awesome bands playing now. go find them. stop fawning over what are now old guys. go find new bands.

[@AllenSentinery]

Interesting.

[@batmanderdad]

WOW.

[@wand4riesta1]

"..... WARRIORS !!! "

[@StoneThatTheBuilderRefusedKK]

0:52 is it Darren Pesce ?

[@allstarchris33]

No booze no drugs,f bombs galore

[@The1stDukeDroklar]

And why do men think that to display your emotions makes you less of a Man? The fact is it makes you far more than merely a Man. It takes far more strength and courage to go against all the conditioning and to face the ridicule of the cowards that call themselves men. To be scorned by most women as well who are subject subconsciously to the same conditioning that permeates society for thousands of thousands of years (that's millions for any of the alts that like to follow me looking for a way to prick and jab at what I say). That mentality is also the indoctrinated automatic thinking that leads every man to look down upon women and yet most women play right into that same line of thought without realizing it. They seem to think that it indicates weakness when in fact indicates a real super man...something they very rarely may come across in their lives... if ever. As far as him feeling bad about what he said about a family member... "my own blood", Wtf has that got to do with anything? The fact is that family will treat you worse than strangers. They will cut you the deepest as they betray you time and time again. I have walked away from nearly every family member I ever knew for these reasons. The only real family I have are friends who have yet to betray my trust or try to use my kindness as a weakness.... few and far between.

[@ColdhardsteelHC]

Fuck yeah.

[@kanescrimes4848]

Straight edge is only an admirable trait if the person exudes self discipline in it's entirety.

[@Gunz4Hire187]

SK8EVERYTHING 4EVER same thing with anal fisting and scat porn!

[@kanescrimes4848]

Gunz4Hire187 That is blatantly incorrect, anal fisting and scat porn is ALWAYS admirable regardless. Self discipline isn't relevant in either...duh.

[@Gunz4Hire187]

SK8EVERYTHING 4EVER yeah I guess the art is found within it's imperfections..

[@kanescrimes4848]

I was kinda foolin' around and trying to act funny, but you just replied in a profoundly relevant sentiment(slightly cheesy, but none the less profound) so I'll oblige and try to reply in kind MY TAKE=By definition: Nothing can be perfect , so anything rooted in imperfection is indeed ...perfect.(are the words implications diminished because of it? ...I.D.K) Case and pint: A perfect mess is often viewed as beautiful art to anyone with a perspective rooted in the act of science.(a person who doesn't operate under preconceived notions, and instead takes life as it comes and acts accordingly) In other words: The difference between "remembering and regurgitating" v.s "understanding and working through/solving with a working knowledge") My experience: Straight edge mentalities are usually birthed from a lack of a working knowledge about the world(and everything in it) happening around you, in combination with a blanketed hate for substance that was amounted through personal experience with no willing involvement.(usually at a time in the persons life when they're lacking the capacity to grasp the larger concepts accompanied with substance use and substance abuse) It also implies a totalitarian thought scope reminiscent of the very complacency the majority of "straight-edge" narratives claim to be against. The few straight edge people I've met are drastically different than the vast majority of "straight edge punkers" who all too often seem to assume that "straight edge" has a few looks, a few faces, a few styles, and a common agenda among "the-tribe"(another example of insecurity producing tribalism and masking it as strength) Bla Bla Bla....Rant done.

[@Gunz4Hire187]

SK8EVERYTHING 4EVER I agree with, however a large part of the straight edge movement in terms of harboring some kind of hatred towards drugs etc I think comes second to the idea of fitting into a community, they could have a fear of drugs and alcohol and mask that with hatred or some militant attitude. However, the same is found in any form of community or counter culture. I got into hardcore, not some generic metal which led to hc, but specifically hardcore punk when I was around 8. So even though I'm 35 now and my attitude had changed about some things, I still have that inclusive attitude towards all these generations of kids nowadays and that'll probably never go away. I've known quite a few kids who got into straght edge for honest reasons and those who are pseudo groupies. I've never been or have any interest in it other than listening to some of the SE bands of the era. I'm from CT, so back in the early 90s there was a ton of the champion hoodie wearing your crew style going on. Those were some of my first shows.

[@hiimnick5]

Lol these highschool kids in the comments who think smoking weed makes them edgy

[@Heyyofryman]

only not smoking weed makes u edgy af xxx str8fucknedge

[@bryanmpuente]

It doesn’t. But really, marijuana isn’t that big of a deal lmao.

[@tomr.1125]

hiimnick5 at least they're not self righteous asshat

[@Donutsmasher1]

Lol I'm in this

[@sandpaper4483]

Seems like the younger generations don't have their own version of hardcore, I don't mean the style of music I mean a scene of counter culture.

[@tylerperkinson1677]

808 Dylan yeah its scary

[@Gunz4Hire187]

The generations these days have nothing except KZbin heroes who run their lives. There is no counter culture. The major of hardcore has gone to shit and alot of that has to do with the labels and the ozzfest cornball types being exposed to fucking hatebreed and thinking they know the score with their bubblegum version of things.

[@SuperRat420]

No

[@davenwatts8173]

808 Dylan maby we finally found out how to get along n now it's just culture, no counter necessary...maby??

[@lucascrass4531]

@Joshua Jung lmao, it's not

[@lilgnarlz1786]

For so many of us punk was all we had. We would get fucked with constantly, never fit in. It was a safe haven for us. Now it’s just a fucking fashion statement

[@pedrocerda6574]

yo what song is playing at the end there?

[@tylerperkinson1677]

Don't cry about it....?

[@kristopherkrueger4617]

Ironically KZbin assigns booze ads to this video?!?! Kinda stupid.

[@niconine268]

Fcking cool doccie

[@Robert.Deeeee]

Those hammers, is he a West Ham fan?

[@joeperkumas6492]

They took it from Cockney Rejects. And I think those guys were

[@alleystargrowley2784]

Nobody around me even understands what hardcore is. My own mother makes fun of me for it but all I know is that it's a sick movement of violent autistic and I love it

[@Gunz4Hire187]

J978 Ma so explain hardcore specifically....

[@alleystargrowley2784]

Yeah probably

[@colddaze6680]

Autistics?

[@Izbea-u9i]

Crucial Times

[@Mazzodude]

YEHHHHHHHH PUNK RAWK 4 LIFE!

[@clintonsypherd8822]

Up Next: "Sia-Big Girls Cry" What the fuck KZbin?

[@adubspitfoster]

The suggestions on youtube are based off of your personal search history... so that sounds like a personal problem to me lol

[@krytxps]

Creepyboners, a cinematic adventure the first ones arent

[@taylerwarren3827]

I didn't know Tony Hawk was there guitarist lol

[@Runes_and_Men]

7:34 is that Raybeez??

[@stevenhardaway6138]

Yes

[@shoehoardingzimbobway4206]

straight edge or not good stuff

[@Capt.Caveman]

I got your back 1 ctyc

[@staceyfriedrich2273]

wow u are nuts

[@ANDYWOUNDSABRXS]

just found this now.... spewing

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Anyone else think his dad might've killed his mom? Jesus.

[@c0uchsl0uch]

Cornholio ?

[@slowho5489]

wrong Judge

[@xx5394]

Who cares kf youre sxe or not enjoy the doc..