Dragon Age: Veilguard - One Month Later: What Went Right and Wrong?

[@chazbriggs]

I just can’t see people saying the ending was better than the suicide mission of me 2. In Me 2 I was genuinely scared for characters I cared about. In da veil guard I just wanted it to be over so I can see what happens with solas

[@Ianbits]

It wasn't better entirely but some aspects were. In Mass Effect it was pretty clear if you did companion missions and made reasonable picks you'd be fine, even on launch it was kinda hard to get anyone killed.

[@garycannon4644]

​@@Ianbitsno aspect of the ending to veilguard was better stop talking out your ass

[@sachitechless]

What a nuanced review and dissection of the game, I'm sure the comments will have very normal discussion about the qualities of the game and not be a culture war. For real though, I appreciate the review, I've been tryna figure out whether to get this for my sister since she adores Baldur's Gate 3.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

lol I’m not sure they stuck around. More of a comment and leave kinda bunch.

[@sachitechless]

​@@NoisyPixelNews I do actually adore this format a lot in terms of looking at the game outside of the crunch of a review at release.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I wish we could do it more

[@beyond247v]

Very cocky for getting it so wrong that you have to back paddle

[@LP-mh6ri]

This is nothing like baldurs gate 3, consider divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, wasteland 3 (if a deep turn based crpg in a post apocalyptic world is interesting, wasteland 2 director cut is also good but a bit older) dragon age origins, or pillars of eternity 1-2. They are all actual rpg´s with more choices,better rpg mechanics etc. not action games with terrible writing and goofy safe party members. (baldurs gate 2 is also the best crpg ever made but for a younger person the mechanics and presentation might feel dated, idk ,she would have to play the first one as well though for story )

[@nazgulsenpai]

Such an underrated channel. Keep up the outstanding work and I can't wait to see it grow.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

Thank you!

[@Ianbits]

Thank you! Glad you enjoy it.

[@MwelwaOnCos]

I love how the internet has made people professionals on topics in their own right.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thanks for this anslysis video! Very nuanced.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

Thanks for watching!

[@Ianbits]

appreciate it!

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

I used to absolutely love Origins. The writing was very good and I loved to read the books related as well. The romance felt good as well. It had gay and lesbian romance as well and it made me question my own sexuality. Then they made everyone bi in DA2 and here everyone is as well from what I understand I haven’t played it. I played through Origins 6 times as different genders and races and every play through was unique. Have good characters and writing and you can make me fall for a man or woman or blue alien or even a person hidden behind a mask the entire game like Tali in ME2. Or a guy with a messed up face like Garrus. There are a few games that can handle trans characters well as well. But it’s done by making the player like the characters naturally not preaching. You like the person for who they are not their gender identity. But in the modern world it seems it’s no longer that gender isn’t important and it’s become the all important. I have to proclaim my pronouns and my sexuality to everyone and that is my only identity. It’s not making me feel more accepted if anything it’s old school adherence to rules just flipped around. I’ll pick up this game when it’s 15 bucks in a year just to see what it’s about but BioWare has gone from being my favourite company to a company I barely care about at all.

[@Nast33]

People have been trashing the poor writing and neutered everything about this game since day 1, somehow only the news outlets pretended it's all good while blaming culture war nonsense, as if we didn't see the garbo quality that had nothing to do with Taash being NB.

[@JohnDoe80808]

Its a shame. I bought this off of your recommendation. I honestly dont see how you guys scored it so high. I did everything and played until the end. I did unsubscribe as that was the deal i made with the reviewer. I just found that the game at best is meh. A lack of choice, a lack of properly different builds, a disjointed party that doesnt feel like they actually connect. Some things seem objectively bad, like the writing being very tell dont show. I dont know, you guys always wore your bias on your sleeves (which i liked) and you didnt with this one. It felt like a lie not the truth. (Obviously you could be telling the truth, but it felt like a lie). I'll leave this comment and remain unsubbed for awhile if your content pops up that regularly and is good again and warrants subbing then i will. Good luck guys.

[@S_Hyde]

Is the song near the end from trails of? I get similar vibes but am not sure...

[@Ianbits]

it's from tokyo xanadu so close! songs are in the description

[@S_Hyde]

@@Ianbits no wonder it gave me a bit of exam-season vibes

[@Riskofrain-n9f]

When you play a fantasy game about stopping two elven gods from bringing the apocalypse to this fantastical world, oh, but you have to pause for the pronouns and acknowledge one of your companions as non-binary. How does that even fit within the context of the story? I can't think of a better way to break the flow of the narrative than that lol. It's hard for me to believe that anyone genuinely enjoys this kind of story.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

@@Riskofrain-n9f what does "pause for the pronouns"?

[@Riskofrain-n9f]

@fernandozavaletabustos205 Taash missions

[@drakoan]

isn't that the joke on itself? the world is in danger of destruction but someone wants you to stop and focus on their pronouns. It is ironically narcissistic.

[@mahdiashk5747]

That is why it's stupid to shove this agenda in video games. We want immerse stories without preaching and raises general ethical issues or dilemmas not this slops who nobody care about. In fantasy worlds people barely survive or live to think about 'Pronouns.' If Taash was in previous games I can see origin warden tell her to shut up or kick her out of the party until she stop being a fragile child.

[@LP-mh6ri]

@@drakoan "ye ye the world might be in danger, everyone´s lives and such but let´s focus on the important stuff, MY gender identity and mom issues" Not sure that´s the person I would chose to help me save the world. Again poor writing created this, in the other games many of the companions sort of end up with you. Here you go LOOK for specific people, it´s not even clear where Tash learned all the stuff, like is there ANY other dragon hunter available who is more mature and stable? Tash being a dragon hunter is secondary to her being non-binary which shows where the writers priorities are.

[@AgentownshipRebelion]

I agree with much of this. It can have its moments but it's mostly just mid. Really didn't like how almost every area felt like a corridor. I expect most games with choice systems to have limits but this one felt way more limited than I would have thought.

[@kanecassidy9126]

a bit late on backtracking train huh

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

@@kanecassidy9126 what do You mean by that?

[@kanecassidy9126]

@fernandozavaletabustos205 some other journo outlets that gave 9s and 10s already released issues stating that the game isn't that good after all. NP was late to that party

[@SasuNaruCollection]

@@kanecassidy9126 who?

[@MIATeddyBear]

@@fernandozavaletabustos205 Noisy Pixel gave Dragon Age Veilguard an 8.5 out of 10 back on October 28. This review is FAR more critical than their initial review. They called the game "A Satisfying Return to Thedas".

[@oddvorbis]

I havent played the game, but am liking the nuance and thought put into this retrospective. Thanks for not skirting around sensitive issues as well.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

Ya that’s what these features are for!

[@Ianbits]

glad you enjoyed it!

[@dantethewishgranter]

Haven't bought this yet, been busy playing Metaphor. How good is this compared to Metaphor? 🤔

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I mean our Metaphor one month later is available now

[@Pharmboy6]

If woke stuff doesn't bother u or take u out of experience. And you don't mind playing as male model or butch lesbian, then it's ok. Id pay 20 bucks for it. But so much better stuff to play

[@caseyblankenship987]

Culture war aside, they don’t even compare. It still depends on your preferences but as far as the characters and writing it’s jarring going from veilguard to metaphor. Metaphor has vastly better dialogue and characters. If you prefer action combat veilgurard can be fun for a short while. That’s about it

[@jonathank3759]

I am conflicted about this since I like this channel, either your reviews matter and I should watch them or they don’t and are meaningless and can be backtracked after the fact. Both can’t be true

[@Ianbits]

My goal is to provide my own perspective, sometimes that will line up with the official review and sometimes it won't. That's why this is unscored and a bit more personal, it's just another person's take.

[@DevDinish]

I enjoyed it I gave it a 7 flat on a enjoyment level I"m glad I played and I'll revisit but I love all the critiques given here. I will say the 3rd act really won me over to get it to a 6.5 - 7

[@sentientnpc0]

I heard they removed the ability to remove characters from your party or have them killed permanently like in origins? Is that true? 😅

[@DonutSwordsman]

Is it fun to kill enemies and get gear? If not dropped

[@enescustovic1883]

Thanks for your thoughts, I havent played this because I saw enough that would put me off. Strange how people think it's the "wokeness" that sunk this battleship, BG3 seems to be doing fine with divine lesbians romancing humans. Veilguard is just too flawed to be worth the time or money

[@beezusHrist]

They are just pushing an agenda, and couldn't with Baldur's Gate III because it didn't suck like this game does. Baldur's Gate III is woke, but because it was so good, chuds couldn't do this to it. This should be a lesson to developers: Make good games... LOL

[@Evamaster456]

Great video, this game was absolutely kneecapped by its very tumultuous development cycle. Add in that period of time when EA was forcing all their studios to push out live-service games (because they thought, “SiNgLePlAyEr Is DeAd”) and the loss of many of the original devs that led the charge on the original games, which results in this. Sad since before everything went wrong behind the scenes (according to Jason Schreier’s articles and the DA:TV artbook) they were at least on the right track.

[@joshdavid9256]

The trailers and early reviews had me pretty well turned off Veilguard but it sounds like there might be enough there to justify picking it up on sale. I do have a lot of genuinely good games to play right now though so I'm pretty torn on it.

[@Zeroninja-j5c]

Larian would have done veilgaurd so much better.

[@caseyblankenship987]

I would love a larian game with dragon age origins type of combat just more polished

[@Balbaneth]

A larian dragon age? Say less.

[@Ianbits]

Baldur's Gate 3 is definitely a game that really scratches that Dragon Age: Origins style itch. Greedfall is another one that's great in that style as well.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

I would love a true Dragon Age 4 with Larian.

[@frostb1041]

I'm still gonna buy it , i've waited too long for the sequel to DA:I , I will take what I can get

[@Ianbits]

Hope you enjoy it more than I did friend

[@La_Guinewere]

Prepare yourself to encounter a disappointment. Just sayin'...🙄

[@Dumbledoresarmy13]

Same. Expectations are not high but I want to know what happens. At least we know it runs smoothly, and it runs on steam deck without any tinkering so that's going to make it easier to casually play for me anyway.

[@maakasuekano776]

Like the Tralis ost in this video.

[@outsidewatching5746]

Im playing a rogue at the moment. The combat feels like a fluttery Kingdoms of Amalur

[@drees897]

I just finished the game and the biggest issue is the story. I've played all the game in series and read most of the books this game feels less connected. The exclusion of the choices from previous game and some of the dropped plots was a bad decision by BioWare.

[@saloz9483]

From everything iv seen the writing can get pretty dam bad. Also as you mentioned the game does not allow you to actually role play. You cant be a dick or stern and your just super nice all the time. Also the story in this game basically does a reset as everything that happens in the last 3 games does not matter because a certain event happens which basically says screw you to anyone who cared about those past 3 games and they choices they made with the characters.

[@pietro12x]

Sums up a lot of why I can’t get into the game after 15 hrs

[@Naughthail75]

"Because I genuinely understand why some people like this game" No one likes this game.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I think people like it.

[@Pharmboy6]

Kamala Harris likes it🎉

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I don’t think she plays this.

[@brucewayne404]

Saying no one likes it is disingenuous. It's sitting at an 82 on metacritic, 4 stars on PlayStation and mostly positive on Steam. People like it.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

@@Naughthail75 Mortismal Gaming liked it.

[@heatherharrison264]

It is good to hear a reasonable criticism of this game that isn't tied up in culture war nonsense. Considering the changes that took place during development and the resulting development hell, it is a wonder that this game is as good as it is. It certainly doesn't feel like a cohesive game that was made with a specific vision in mind. I'm not as invested in the Dragon Age franchise as many others, as until I decided to try out Veilguard, I had only played Origins, and that was a long time ago. I've only been picking at Veilguard when I'm in the mood, so I haven't progressed all that far. So far, I'm seeing a messy game that sometimes comes together well, and it is enjoyable when I want to play something that is low stress. I've fully nerfed the combat in the difficulty settings since I don't like action combat, so I'm effectively playing the game as a walking simulator. In that sense, it partially works. The scenery is varied and beautiful, and I sometimes enjoy simply wandering around and taking in the view. The story and dialogue, unfortunately, are not up to a high standard. Quality is all over the place. Every now and then, something hits well, but the high quality moments are brought down to earth by moments that are repetitive or cringeworthy. I agree that the writing lacks nuance. Much of the time, it feels like third rate young adult genre fiction, which can be fun at times on a surface level but is distinctly lacking in impact. So far, I like the characters at least reasonably well (even Bellara, though she can be annoying at times). Despite its problems, I find enough to like in the game that the positives outweigh the negatives, but it is not a great game and certainly not on the level of Origins. I don't think the team that made this game is lacking in talent, as there are moments when the game works well, and there are good ideas that could have been executed better. To me, it looks like a problem with management and a lack of vision at the top. Attempting to develop this game as a multiplayer live service was a huge mistake. Once that was abandoned, my guess is that a cohesive concept for the game never quite came together. Given all the money and time that were wasted taking wrong turns during development, I'm sure budget constraints came into play as well. It would be nice if this team could be given the freedom to create a new IP and build something from the ground up rather than work in old franchises that have run their course.

[@Yuxkta]

I just hate what this series has become. 2 and Inq had their problems but those had good bones and could be fixed. This game is straight up filled with contempt for the previous games. Southern Thedas is off screened, blight (which is the core aspect of DA world) end unceremoniously so that writers can write the stories they want using the famous IP name to finance it. This feels like a 6/10 average fantasy game, not a DA. Not in tone, not in writing, not in gameplay. I won't even mention how bad the secret ending is because it literally does its best to take a piss on the previous games for one last time. Gameplay also sucks balls and is praised mostly by people who never picked up a good action game like Sekiro, Nioh 2, Monster Hunter, Bayonetta, Metal Gear Rising etc.

[@Ianbits]

I have 100+ hours in Sekiro and Nioh 2 and obviously it's not going to scratch that same itch but it's still above average action combat in my opinion. It's not genre-bending greatness but it's still got its charm.

[@daytonablue2041]

I really enjoyed it. I loved the exploration and the battles. Story was ok and I even laughed out loud a few times.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

That’s rad

[@caseyblankenship987]

I gave it a fair shot and the combat was fun just got so stale so fast. The story seemed okay but the characters were and character designs were just so bad to me. Not just bad but felt like they didn’t belong in that universe. Even most armors for the warriors looked like some modern futuristic outfit made by a a fashion company. It made the exact same mistakes as saints row reboot which isn’t a coincidence I don’t think

[@tplayer23424]

Traash is enough to ruin everything imo.

[@ziloe]

Taash is fine. It's a couple scenes that are cringe, but seeing all of it come together adds far more context than it does seeing them without.

[@SolidSnake240]

The party members in general are unlikeable and unmemorable

[@TheLetterJ-c8n]

I personally loved the humiliation ritual.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

@tplayer23424 why?

[@SeventhheavenDK]

​@@ziloe. No, I played the game and I just rolled my eyes with Taash through all the game. But, to be fair, it is not only Traash, all the companions (only exception being Davrin, imo) and the main character are just low quality.

[@Katie-hb8iq]

I already disagree with the premise. Dragon Age panders heavily to the non-binary shtick, reducing Taash to their identity as a defining trait. This feels like a reverse form of bigotry, where a character is defined solely by their identity. Outside of activists, most players don’t want this in their video games, regardless of which identity is being highlighted. The game also comes across as overly preachy, as though it’s trying to impose a moral lesson on the player. Additionally, the dramatic genre shift alienated long-time fans, making it even harder to connect with the game. The reality is that Origins was the best entry in the series. This installment falls short-not just as a Dragon Age game but even as an action game, failing to compete with others in the genre. Considering how well Baldur’s Gate 3 performed in sales and popularity, there was no rational reason for Dragon Age to chase action trends and turn into a God of War clone. While the game suffers from significant narrative problems, the political pandering, virtue signaling, and drastic genre change only further damaged its reception. These factors left players unwilling to spend money on it-and they were right.

[@Ianbits]

I sort of disagree, the idea of a character pursuing or figuring out their identity is a relatively common thing in video games and can easily be done well, I just don't think it was here.

[@whitenoise8619]

Backtracking?

[@Ianbits]

Different people with different opinions my friend

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

@@whitenoise8619 how so?

[@whitenoise8619]

@@fernandozavaletabustos205 1. The check has already cleared. 2. Angry Joe's review, despite being late, still got massive views by dunking on the game. Now, the channels that gave it positive reviews are backtracking and starting to be critical about the game.

[@ColinNP]

​@@whitenoise8619 what check lmao

[@SeventhheavenDK]

​​@@fernandozavaletabustos205. This channel praised the game at first. But we already know that story about the "critical acclaim" of this game.

[@topcover7390]

"Like a brick through a window"...that's how they always approach a story, which is why their ideological crap will never work. It always takes 99% of the focus.

[@garycannon4644]

It entirely invalidates all your choices from previous games save three. That alone means this game did nothing right

[@megetmorsomt]

Dragon Age Andromeda...

[@crystalclarent748]

Yep its not for me at all, and i leave it at that!!

[@Balbaneth]

God i hated traash with every fiber of my being, when we went back to play origins after to cleanse this abomination from memory says a lot.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

@@Balbaneth why do you hate Taash.

[@SeventhheavenDK]

Same here. I also had to go back to Origins to purge Veilguard's memory.

[@ChrossX]

First IGN and now you guys backtracking on your original, highly rated review. Stop shilling for million dollar game companies and do your job. You know what, people would care more if you get blacklisted for telling the truth.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

[@ChrossX]

@NoisyPixelNews Blinders on. Just look at your comments. Even the people who love the channel are saying the same thing. Better off having not posted this video. It's so disingenuous. It's not like the channel does follow up videos for other reviews.

[@Ianbits]

I offered to do this video before the original review was even done or posted. No one knew what the reception was, I just was interested in the game and wanted to make a video on it. I ended up not liking it so that's what I talked about. The original reviewer and I just felt differently about the game. You're writing fanfic man.

[@NoisyPixelNews]

We did do a previous follow up video: One Month Later Metaphor, which Ian also put together. The Dragon Age episode was decided on way before the review came out. I don’t even think Ian knew Colin was reviewing it. We got two codes from BioWare, one went to Colin the other to Ian. Ian, with no embargo, was able to sit with the game longer and provide an alternative take on a game after its release, which is what the series is about, but for you to spout untrue statements as facts is just weird. I think your blinders are on, and none of us read IGN and didn’t even know they did that until you told us, which even now, I don’t know that they did because I can’t be bothered to check. Maybe just not read them? - Azario

[@ShadmehR_23]

id you want to know why this game failed Don't think about calture war.. you can make good LGBTQ characters and you have to give ppl chance to reject that character too.. but in this game.. your choices matter as much as in Assassin's Creed game! You have skills less than Assassin's Creed game! oh but AC doesn't have to be RPG if it is, its plus but this game when Origins released was RPG like BG3 nowadays... when they say we are inspired by God of War something is wrong!! God of War Franchise is my number 1 btw, but it has nothing to do with Dragon Age!

[@STRINGTHING]

When you take the player out of the fantasy world by adding woke ideology with talk about binary gender identity nonsense, gamers get turned off. I will never play it or a game that shoves this in our face especially when it cost $$$ to buy. Even free I would not play it for said reasons. Stop the madness

[@robinnewhouse1563]

Is the woke ideology non binary trans in the room with us, or does it usually stay int he damp confines of your rotting brain?

[@Senumunu]

Corny relativism will never change the reality that this product is physically repulsive.

[@beezusHrist]

This sentence does not make any sense.

[@Gangerworld]

Tevinter isn't the setting of the game. The northern region of Thedas is. You spend as much time in Minrathous as you do in Arlathan forest, Nevarra, the Anderfels, Antivo and Rivain. And how the hell is the underwater level not appropriate for Dragon Age? Or would you rather they do another Deep Roads or Fade level. And your character isn't "from Tevinter," unless you choose the Shadow Dragons origin. Otherwise you're from somewhere else. And Emmerich belonged in Harry Potter? Why because he wasn't the normal boring "evil necromancer" that you would've preferred. Thank God you don't make games. Yeah, hard disagree on your opinions on this one. But hey gotta get that walkback. You do you. This review was not for me.

[@Killerboyh]

When your hire activists instead of passion game developers then you get this happening

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I think they are passionate game developers all the same. I mean, I couldn’t write or create something like this even if I don’t like it and will never play, I can recognize that it’s a skill I don’t have - Azario

[@caseyblankenship987]

Right and studios should be able to make whatever game they want the problem is when they went and hired as many women as possible, women clearly have different tastes than men. Whether they like it or not most gamers aren’t going to like the same things as purple haired women and non binary activists. So eventually studios will get shut down and they will get laid off and investors will start pushing them away from it all because at the end of the day it’s a business

[@KenGKaiden]

When someone can't form an opinion on their own and have to use someone else's.

[@caseyblankenship987]

@ you mean like all western game studios suddenly deciding attractive female characters are bad yeah good point

[@beezusHrist]

@@KenGKaiden THIS @Killerboyh is an NPC

[@bnutz3k]

I liked it okay. Very middle of the road Bioware game, imho. I kinda stopped playing it right at the point where I've collected all the companions. There are too many other, really great games to finish. Currently, I'm playing FF7 Remake, having just finished Rebirth. I will likely come back to it, since I'm saved at a solid restart point. I should add a good friend played through Veilguard with three different builds and loved it.

[@La_Guinewere]

I just REFUSE to acknowledge this game as a part of the DA lore. They've butchered the story... Hope that one day we'll get another game that will actually be the rightful sequel to the Inquisition. ✨️ And just forget this Veilguard nonsense...

[@avendurree]

Another "what went wrong" huh. Game journos just cant take the L

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I this it’s called difference of opinions. But we explore that in the vide.

[@avendurree]

@@NoisyPixelNews Yea I heard what you said. But its just funny to me seeing game journos recently backtrack and go on to make DA:V "what went wrong" articles and videos. Usually making another reviewer from staff write the thing, so it wouldnt invalidate the original, because "different person/opinion" and all because the game didnt meet the sales expectations whatsoever, is flawed and hated by most, so you're trying to take the winning side in some shape or form. No offense, but you gotta admit that it does come off this way.

[@Pharmboy6]

​@@avendurreeseriously. Just admit that 50% of gamers don't like woke garbage. It only hurts sales. Never has a game all of a sudden sold extra million copies cuz it made character boobs and butt flat, gave u pronouns, or forced you to "pull a barv" (or "barf")😅

[@NoisyPixelNews]

We did the same for Metaphor which Ian really enjoyed. This is an ongoing series. Ian went into the game looking forward to it and this is his experience sans our official review.

[@Riskofrain-n9f]

Please, for once, tell the truth. In the media, the phrase "Bioware's return to form" was repeated almost like a template in the initial reviews. Weeks later, several outlets started backtracking when they realized the sales were not as expected.

[@IMRavnos]

The games name is Dragon Age: THE Veilguard. So you got it backwards in both the title and the video. Can we trust a critique from someone who does not know the name of the game he is critiquing? 😂

[@gouldfish4415]

No

[@rodyvanhulst]

I know you guys hate this comment so just for fun 😬 Go woke go broke 😅

[@NoisyPixelNews]

I think it’s the first I saw it. I don’t hate anything lol - Azario

[@beyond247v]

Agreed but why would noisy pixel hate? They don't seem woke. With gaming channels its been easy since hogwarts legacy. Just watch their review and you know whats what. That's why i love the game. Its a great channel Filter. Noisy has Been consistently neutral.

[@beyond247v]

Nvm I didn't know they praised vailguard i stand corrected. First mortem now np are there even good channels left?

[@rodyvanhulst]

@beyond247v They made a video were they said they gave a game a bad rating because it was a bad game not because of the game studio or politics. (It was made by sweet baby inc) And they said i can already immagine the comments go woke go broke while rolling their eyes 😂 So the joke is about that.

[@rodyvanhulst]

@@beyond247v yeah well i can imagine some players enjoy the combat but the rest is trash so it doesent deserve the high scores.

[@kaikiske7436]

Some of the decisions they were allowed to make was quite frankly mind boggling. Wonder if publishers will continue to let activist developers put their own personal agendas in games, completely tanking sales.. Avowed is next it seems.

[@codernerd7076]

The activist writers/director mess it up, look there is a time and place for your trans politics agenda but this was not one of those. They also made a ton of lore mistakes and well the story was a mess why the hell did the developers choose this type of gameplay!?

[@Airhockey3000]

It’s woke. Pass

[@beezusHrist]

Baldur's Gate III is woke, nerd

[@Airhockey3000]

@ lol. Woke is cool and sells! Just like concord and dustbin and squishy squad

[@beezusHrist]

@@Airhockey3000 just like baldur's gate iii

[@NarcoticDimension]

​@beezusHrist BG3 is nowhere near as preachy as this game and you know it.

[@beezusHrist]

@NarcoticDimension bg3 is woke af

[@Pharmboy6]

How dare u not like this game😂! I didn't like it either. Shhh. Keep it a secret.

[@caseyblankenship987]

Bigot!!! lol

[@jamespaul6315]

I loved it. Tired of the anti woke losers crying all the time. Really dont care what they think.

[@PkStarstormAlfa]

If you dont care about what they think, why are you tired of them? Honestly most of the games that have been "woke" have been average/bad.

[@jamespaul6315]

@ because its boring to keep reading the same exact opinion over and over from people who think they are some kind of culture warrior. And half, or three thirds, probably havent played the games they are complaining about so its even more hypocritical.

[@mightysascrotch5981]

You don't need to eat dog poop to know it tastes bad.

[@PkStarstormAlfa]

@@jamespaul6315 its fine to complain about things you havent played. Ill give you an easy to understand analogy. If you go to a restaurant and order a burger, but they bring you a plate with bread and poop, are you going to complain about it? or you will eat it first to have a judgment? I know both sides of the spectrum pro and anti woke warriors are annoying, but so far the criticism has been very valid when you see the final product. In the end people who complain only want a better product which benefits us all.

[@jamespaul6315]

@ ok but why do you care about a game you have zero interest in playing? Just move on. You have NO interest in the games clearly so why just complain? Its got minorities or women in it, we get it, its not for you. Fine. And I dont know any of the anti woke people thats made anything better for “us” all. I want nothing to do with them

[@Stayinthegrave]

It’s awful looks terrible and plays bad

[@pietro12x]

Sums up a lot of why I can’t get into the game after 15 hrs