"Non-Abrasive" VS. Regular Griptape! Does it really save your shoes?

[@hambrother]

that was a more informative review of this product. I tried watching the John Hill one but he tends to stray away from the main topic. thanks

[@gunnermurphy6632]

bro he said hes gonna upload a detailed review when he wears out that deck

[@hambrother]

gunner murphy I don't have time to wait for an answer, and idgaf cause radrat already answered it..

[@luffyplasticman4371]

hambrother yeah. John Hill strays way too much. Like he acts like Shane Dawson, fouseytube, or Michael Green from kidbehindacamera lmao. If I wanted to watch vlogging I'd rather watch those guys. I only care about the information he provides about skateboarding. I always skip the "filler vlogging" because it's so dull and boring. Maybe if he was funny like Michael Green and pranked 24/7 I wouldn't skip it... But he just is boring and has dry humor hehe. Get to the point dude. Only talk about skateboarding John Hill😂😂😂😂.

[@xTHEFLOYDx]

agreed

[@deviction6530]

I read that as Jonah hill and I got excited for a bit

[@S-Config]

Thanks for demo'ing the DKL legit. You're the first KZbinr that sat down and tested it without going "eh. it's good" after a few hours and thrown away the board never to be seen again. Just barely starting to skate so I have no preference. But thanks for the heads up on the peeling. I'll watch out for that.

[@JPsk8core]

"I don't do flips that much"... "I'm gonna do 100 flips"

[@mullucull3r]

that's not a lot if you do a lot of flip tricks

[@chancehays3748]

Frontflips? Ps sarcastic

[@Rob-pq1bk]

He said single flips

[@vecchioutente]

@@colebrown8293 simp

[@jacksonbrown3511]

He said single flips

[@turb0b0ytim]

Great job ACTUALLY reviewing this stuff. Another 'long term' review, down the road would be appreciated.

[@hiddentape2911]

That "switch" icon was a nice touch :)

[@anthonyserrano5925]

I lost it when that popped on the screen

[@LeonidaGator]

Matt Fennell When did it pop up?

[@rickgoodman5413]

iI King Kam Ii 6:12

[@reallygoodsoil]

Ya man

[@devinkk]

agreed

[@MrCofeebean]

You're supposed to leave it on overnight before you skate it. Idk if that would've helped but that's what the directions say

[@roguextokyo]

I also think he didn't inset when he cut the grip

[@vxmpsl4yxr965]

Yeah it doesn’t peel off as much if you have it like that and cutting a quarter inch off is better

[@lostjuls5453]

@@vxmpsl4yxr965 do you have the grip? if so how long is it lasting you so far?

[@vxmpsl4yxr965]

@@lostjuls5453 yeah I have the grip but I had the older griptape where the griptape would peel up asf but it was also.my failt why it peeled up because I did mess up my grip tape job twice bit it does stay down nice, don't ruin your shoes but it does discolor the shoe a tiny but you can clean your shoes or wipe it off then the griptape does lose its grip withing a month kinda but that also mightve been my fault for trying to clean the grip with water and a rag when I think you're only supposed to use a damp rag or a semi dry one thats not stiff but overall it took a little to get used to but It did make my flip tricks better

[@RemedyTalon]

Put some MOB M80 on my new deck, 5 minutes of practicing an ollie (im new) it wore through my brand new Vans including my sock. I ordered DKL that night.

[@PHeMoX]

Yeah, I'm surprised that many people love MOB griptape honestly. I mean it's not bad and definitely has plenty of grip, but it's a monster for shoes.

[@Happy-kp1mp]

This grip sucks get jessup

[@Stolas1777]

I don’t get it I skated for years and was never good by any means could only Ollie kick flip and boardslide but I never wore a hole through shoes barely ever even an abrasion maybe I was doing it wrong and that’s why I sucked but I would get a hole in the rubber sole but never near big toe like my friends would

[@danielgaiswinkler1568]

get a pro model shoe

[@datguy9408]

Don’t get canvas my dude.

[@supergogeta200]

Wait? This guy can skate. I legitimately thought he was just the guy with the most knowledge of skating

[@luciusfucius]

Thanks for taking the time to make an in-depth review on this product. And linking their website in your description, unlike some people *cough* Braille Skateboarding *cough* *cough*

[@nakkihousu4950]

braille is cancer. I feel like they're only in it for the views

[@aidenrawles8466]

but this guy was doing no comply shit to test grip?

[@luffyplasticman4371]

Lucius Fucius braille skateboarding has gone a little downhill. Like that echo skate warehouse "park" that they always film in sucks. I hate the echo. Either buy some quality audio equipment that muffles echo effects or skate outside. It's a pet peeve. Then they have all these new skaters that IDC about. Did Aaron Kyro get lazy or something? Why have other skaters? Isn't he the skateboarding made simple guru sensei teacher? Why should we care about the other skaters?

[@Blackstar1701]

Aaron Kyro is getting older and doesn't want to wear his body down doing all these crazy drops that Carlos does. He would rather putter around and make money. I don't blame him hiring new talent.

[@vgrepairs]

@@aidenrawles8466 100 kickflips and switch flips?

[@samuraikaoss1455]

this review is so much better than another Dkl review I saw.

[@DANYALLAYNAD]

*Forgets to press record after 100 kickflips*

[@sukhwanyoo9307]

Hi Rad Rat I respect your dedication for a detailed high quality review! Thank You! I am in Korea and I found out DKL is currently shipping only inside the States. Luckily my parents happen to be staying in the U.S. right now, and I had the DKL grip tape delivered to my parents' apartment. I will be getting the tape when they return at the end of this month. Even though I bought them, I still had doubts. But your video and review really enlightened me. Now I can't wait to try them out myself. I hope DKL assign a distributor in the Asian region too. Thanks a lot!

[@purplegill10]

There's package forwarding companies out there that can get you a US address and then they'll ship it to your country.

[@guilhermecoutinho8896]

Ik this comment was 2 years ago, but any update on how it performed?

[@Stallagmite]

Yah, I find my skate shoes at thrift stores for 3 about bucks a pair. So far I've scored perfect sk8 shoes at my size. Then I keep them alive for a year with shoe goe...

[@CHR1SUND4Y]

I got my favorite skate shoes at the thrift store too. luckily just my size, and they belonged to a skater but were in great condition I'd say. They too were sk8s 😸

[@MrConstant23.]

Love the honesty. And the update. Shows you really care about what you are doing.

[@TomatoHouses]

Makes me curious how spraying on a rubber primer like plastidip onto grip tape would do.

[@johnmcduggle4032]

To the comments about if this grip is successful, it will kill shoe companies, consider this. I'm PRETTY confident that the guys putting this out are in fact SKATERS, wouldn't you like to see THEIR company flourish?!? SMH @ the notion that if Torrey put this stuff out, people would be buying it in DROVES!!

[@d1nkum340]

What?

[@nouh3053]

I’d rather see shoe companies stick around than some new grip that half the industry will take a decade to accept as an actual thing. It’s bad enough that Adio isn’t a thing anymore.

[@chrisclifford4109]

Noah Springer I loved Adio. Grew up skating those. Wish they were still around

[@johnmcduggle4032]

@@chrisclifford4109 what shoe was it for you??

[@DinNewsletter]

this griptape is good for longboards or cruising

[@ordoordo]

Best review I've seen on DKL. I already have a couple of rolls lying around, I'll have to make time to apply it (and try to sand it properly) :) Thanks!

[@swift84]

heck yeah homie, love your videos. glad you took 2 weeks to review this product. first impressions don't do it justice. Keep up the the good work!!!

[@3tenzo3]

Your videos are great man, keep it up!

[@keeganmurphy3359]

That 100 switch flips is dedication

[@nickuvarov1]

I skate such rubber tape. Its good until dust in streets. And until you start doung combos with bigspin outs. Or high ollies. Not enough grip makes skate tricks lower Shoes do not wear off at all. 2% damage in 60 days

[@wickedlee664]

This channel just gets better and better! One of the best things on the tube. Great!!!

[@datguy9408]

After getting shoes on Poshmark I believe the shoes would last me longer than the non-abrasive griptape after seeing how it gets ruined that fast.

[@seanfinucan2502]

When I tried the dkl grip I got a new deck and also tried a pair of ES skate shoes for the first time and honestly didn't have any transition issues at all with grip and shoes. Been skateing the DKL grip on my next 3 decks and based on the appearance of the same shoes you wouldnt think I skate at all. Only down side is if it gets a little moisture on it will get a little slick

[@samuelyeet6006]

Still skating it? Still liking it? Are you kind of a chill skater or do you do a lot of technical street skating, ledges, harder flip tricks things like that?

[@shadowskater1]

holy shit, congrats on hitting 14k subs! I've been watching your videos when you had 2k subs and I'm happy your getting more subs. ~

[@RadRatVideo]

Thanks bro

[@shadowskater1]

Rad Rat Video I'm looking forward to seeing your new video's and keep up the great content!

[@pixelbath2131]

great review! i really really want to try this grip because I'm about to start riding some fresh Lakais. They are selling it online at one store in australia for $30. which is pretty ridiculous BUT given my shoes cost $90 and decks last about a month its fairly worth it if I'm adding a month to the life of my shoes. its such a shame seeing a great pair get brutalised and lose their tread after a month or two so when i heard this grip had legs i was super stoked! thanks agian mate!

[@alvinshelltrack7875]

I was not ready for the impossible lol honestly from judging a book by its cover, I was expecting a few no comply variations and nothing else lol u just don't look like the type to bust out a kickflip and impossible. But great test better than the others on KZbin! keep it up bro! love the channel. Just subbed

[@o-k9267]

Wow thanks for this actual review, so in depth! As a starting skateboarder I will gladly invest in a new deck every few months, it's not so pricey, but the shoe decay seems so fast to me that it literally stops me from skating much more often. It seems to me that if I was to skate every day for few hours, the shoe won't last a month. And only ONE shoe cost almost as much as a new deck. Any advices how do deal with this would be great. But I guess trying this rubber grip could be a way.

[@722racing3]

Darkslides?

[@qpMONKEYMIKEqp]

They did a dark slide on Brail, it slides better than regular grip

[@gxexrxmxaxnx]

Hey awesome review man I wonder if it behaves better in the rain? I mean of course it's going to get slippery but will it dry well and not get ruined?

[@daisyshinyweather]

X88X I tried it last weekend and I sweat a lot! So much that I ended up getting the nose of my board wet just from picking it up between attempts. So I was jumping over an stack of pizza boxes with this condition, my nose was half wet but I did not noticed any problem with it. Also, it dries really easy.

[@Joe_Stewart]

Need to update this review as they've updated their formula to keep it from peeling as much

[@twindr4kes]

I used this stuff. The first time it was great. Then I got a new board. I put it on there and then where I flick for Heelflips in about 3-4 days, that spot turned completely flat.

[@upscalingvids]

thanks for that review man. mad props!

[@combowitrice3486]

vids r getting better everyday yo😊

[@jacobmaul5751]

Could watch youre channel aaaalll day!!! Keep it up

[@blake8675]

Great video Aron! I was wondering if you could do a video on all of the ridiculous "new" flip tricks Johnny Giger is "inventing"

[@thesodathief]

I have been skating this grip for the past half a year with one pair of lakai newports. They still look brand new. This grip has helped me to progress FAST because i would have to stop skating due to holes in my shoes, i even have a scar on my foot from heelflipping all the way through my shoe and ripping my skin. This grip doesnt allow that to happen. I will never buy regular grip tape again. Give DKL a try. Atleast for one setup.

[@KT-Buf69]

Love your videos dude! Thanks for the review

[@mouija1450]

I guess this grip is really dependent on how fast you go through boards vs shoes. When I was at my peak in skating, I'd buy a new board every 2-3 weeks. I'd guess my shoes would last a month or two, and I'd say 90% of my shoes were Es Accels. They just feel great and last a pretty long time. Nowadays, I might go for a grip that would save my shoes since my boards last a lot longer primarily skating transition, but when I was breaking myself off on stairs, ledges and rails, I'd rather just keep a bargain roll of the cheapest grip on hand since I'd be setting up new decks frequently. At one point I used to spend an evening gripping all my boards (I bought blanks by the box) and just keep them in the trunk of my shitty car with a cordless drill for a quick change.

[@alexcorona]

Should have done 100 Switch Flip Switch Mannies.

[@Lord-Harry]

what is skating without ripped shoes and griptape-thumb.... but maybe ill try that.

[@JustTooManyPuppies]

saving your shoes if your on a budget?

[@Josh_Thompson]

My soles wear down way before the suede does, hopefully it means I can use the same shoes for bmxing.

[@MottaOW]

there's something about your kickflips that just make me smile :)

[@trickswithjp]

I skated this in a sort of dusty/sandy skate-park and it became dirty which is not an issue but it also made it kinda slippery, i mean the tricks still grip the same but when you set up up for tricks its kinda slippery which can make transition skating a little sketch. Just wondering if anyone else had this issue. I am gonna try different shoes and see if that makes a difference. But overall its been really great. Kickflips feel incredible for some reason and its also easier to do those really fun boned ollies.

[@ariekanibalie]

I think DKL has a special instruction video on how to sand down the grip to prevent it from peeling. I'm definitely wanting to try this, even if just to have as one of several setups. I hope some European distributor starts selling this, because I don't feel like paying up to 60 bucks, including shipping, import tax, etc. for a sheet of grip.

[@davidarreguin6339]

So basically buy 3 grip tapes set and let it last you the year rather then 3 sets of shoes. Sounds good to me

[@xWORLDxCHAMPIONx]

Dude your impossibles look so clean 3:23

[@AndSoGoes]

4 years later, be real with us. You still using the DKL grip tape at all? Thanks for this video 💖

[@MickyThunderV]

Like to know that too

[@cadenarant1529]

I haven't used a sheet on my board but I did put it a little piece on a tech deck and it works extremely well

[@AW-xv7dq]

Thanks for the review brother! I'm 46 and just got my self a new board . Have not skated in 2 decades LOL! This is what I needed to know moving fwd.

[@RikRiorik]

For me the draw backs are. (1) The slight peeling. It’s not much but it does happen. Just looks a little less good. (2) Harder to cut and cut well. (3) Too much dust or sweat and if you’ve not brought something to wipe it down with you’ve lost a fair amount of grip and if it gets too wet it gets to be slippery instead. But the benefits are so clear. (1) Shoes don’t die which means you save money and you can look good while riding that much longer. Just get the shoes you want instead of what is cheap. (2) Easier to move your feet around to reposition. I swear normal grip feels like glue by comparison.

[@Raw799]

so glad I found your channel. loads of in depth information. can you please talk about style versus the kinds of tricks one lands. should one focus on clean effort looking tricks or the amount of tricks regardless of how it looks...

[@Noah-sn8zm]

I feel so lucky that it doesn't take me a long time to get used to a new setup. I have pretty loose trucks and my friend likes really tight trucks. Whenever I use his board it only takes me a few minutes to get used to it

[@dylanfuller8146]

I just buy some tough toe for my shoe, endless kick flips for days, one of my favorite products ever. Wish I had it when I was younger.

[@BillyHanning]

I don't care about not being able to spray paint my board, but I don't like how it's wearing the sides of the grip. Maybe I'll test it out sometime, thanks for the video!

[@demhana11]

In their instructions they mention to leave the tape on overnight before using. Maybe that's why it started peeling off quick?

[@luciusfucius]

You may not have noticed, cause you wear chunky shoes, but DKL Griptape is a little cushiony/shock absorbent. I wear slim vulcanised shoes and skating with this grip provides for a softer landing (as supposed to regular grip).

[@stillonvhs5798]

of course you wear canvas boat shoes, you're a modern skater and i bet you do boneless 180s

[@luciusfucius]

StillOnVHS I wear Globe shoes. Mostly David Gonzalez's pro models

[@pietromineo898]

It would have been cool to see the shoes at the two week point. The wear at the bottom of the sole could potentially have been from pushing, that seems to me to be a credible hypothesis given that the upper sole/toe cap area was as near as makes no difference untouched

[@kaleen757]

Thanks for the video it really helps out. My mom just bought me new shoes for skating yesterday and they already have a hole in them so you making this video lets me know that I can still skate lol thanks man!

[@pigwheel15]

Honestly I always thought people were total suckers for buying $70+ pro model shoes to skate in. Just pissing your money away. For average skaters without a ton of disposal income to replace shoes they might be more apt to get those nice shoes if they use this grip.

[@DorianDavisddd]

I skate this and you have to file it off to get the best results. No razor

[@toastcfh]

idk, I've seen a few others try this grip tape too. the thing is I generally wear out my shoes all around as apposed to having mint shoes except where I rub them on grip tape. the soles, support and cushion usually are just as worn out by the time I need shoes over a hole in the side. it definitely does save the grip touching areas a bit. but in general idk it'd save all that much money for me. we are still sweating in, pushing, sliding, running, jumping, and bending the shoes all to shit. you are likely still going to need new shoes pretty often if u skate often.

[@walliegrab9746]

I agree.

[@ninjacuberdk1466]

The instructions on the sanding of the edge of the non abrasive is to do a pretty thorough job. Like, until you get to the clear level. Is there a chance you tried too hard to save your edge and didn’t sand it as recommended? Is that possibly why it peeled? Not implying anything…genuinely curious.

[@Ethan_Mcfly]

Finally a honest review!

[@davidleeashkenazi8992]

Good review, definitely worth it. I usually ride Jessup, but the one problem with it is that it's too thin and therefore chips on the first sesh. So I've tried Mob but it's too grippy for my like (I wanna try the less grippy m-80) so I have to sand it down a little, but then it's perfect. Next grip I'm gonna try is Grizzly, it's a bit less grippy than Mob but lasts more/or so I've been told. No skate shop (maybe only a couple, maybe) is gonna support any non aggressive griptape, because about %75-85 money at the skateboarding industry is coming off skate shoes... Anyone remembers NoRip griptape about a decade ago? probably not, this is gonna be exactly the same - you'll have to specially order it from the company or off eBay 'till it disappear, sucks.

[@saulorocha3755]

I presume the grip also saves the shoelaces in freestyle tricks, right? I mean caspers and truckstands.

[@MatMorRaw]

Wow, nice video. Thanks for using my music here :D What a coincidence I'm riding a skateboard too :D

[@wouterdekabouter9738]

Great video , you earned yourself another subscriber

[@burger1113]

man this is exactly what i needed lol thanks

[@daecongaming2005]

Great vid!

[@Hobby_ADD]

I have been using it for Boneless tricks to protect my hands and it totally works. I had the same issue as you with it peeling up, but mine is way worse. Probably because I keep my skateboard in the truck of my car and it gets really hot here in Florida. What is your opinion of the DKL grip performance for the Boneless tricks you do?

[@RadRatVideo]

It helps a lot for handed stuff like fingerflips and bonelesses because it doesn't rip up your fingers. They told me that the adhesive reacts to heat, so it might have some trouble in the trunk. I leave my board in the house, so I haven't had as much trouble.

[@Hobby_ADD]

Thanks for the info. I was not aware DKL grip's sensitivity to heat. I might have to leave my board in my house from now on. Other than that, I am loving DKL grip. It might very well be the best technology to come to skateboarding in a long time.

[@K31R616]

Krux trucks! My man! Legend with the Krux trucks! I've been loyal to that brand since my first pair over 15 years ago.. Not there smaller, cheaper trucks mind you, just the 8.25 raws. I've had to seriously hunt them down online before to get hold of a new pair but now they seem to be coming back..

[@lightOUTlouisville]

Try putting that stuff on a tech deck

[@lukesmith2854]

But than my fingers will never get filed😂

[@eastcoastingskateboardbran1947]

Hey just subbed due to the amount of detail in the testing. Heard about this griptape recently and wanted to check it out. A lot of other reviews on it arnt using new shoes or doing as much skating on it as u did here. Great work...not sure if I want to get it or not thu due to it peeling and being super grippy at first. I did hear they are suppose to be coming out with a new version of it soon.

[@shaolinotter]

what qualifies as "extremely grippy"? I've always used black magic

[@retro_jojo3159]

this video was great, I wanted more info about the non abrasive grip tape

[@Thoracius]

I appreciate you put a 2-week update in there. It's hard to find a long-term review like that. Are you still riding this grip tape? I'm curious how long it lasts. What happens when you wear the grip tape totally smooth and how long does that take? I like the idea that I might be able to skate with canvas shoes. But even with regular skate shoes tricks like caspers and no comply impossibles are ripping up my shoes and laces like crazy.

[@masonlasco4092]

How does grip tape effect your pop shoves.. I could do a perf pop shove without griptape on the board😂 I rode this stuff... It works the exact same as normal grip.. The only things I found were that is peels up in the heat, harder to grip, and the grip became less grippy the more you skate it..

[@jaketheps2punk]

Awesome vid

[@trw45q]

having it applied on my dinghy, which is a mini cruiser, hope it's good! Since I use mostly on day to day stuff and I want to be able to use normal shoes too and not have to worry much about if what I'm using to work on get destroyed because I played a bit on the dinghy, I think it'll be a nice fit, and then I'll see if it's worth getting it on the regular board

[@not2old2sk86]

Wonder how it would work for a freestyle setup? No-handed 50/50s tear my shoes apart.

[@jewelscoop3570]

That griptape is probably for parks, those basketball courts have really weird textures and mess up regular grip as well.

[@bryaneditiontv600]

This was very informative, thx

[@playy4110]

Great review thank you!

[@twistedneedles4326]

I always wondered what if you could just use the same material as the shoes your wearing

[@danterodriguez6269]

Your support to make an indention for rubber griptape so the edges don’t come offf

[@elusivelogic6704]

I like the idea behind this and it will definitely take off. Shoes will wear out like walking shoes which means they'll last much longer!

[@aidanbaldwin4335]

if they figure this out then rip shoe profits

[@owelofminerva]

I wouldn't get this stuff unless it actually stopped shoes from getting torn up. Here it seems like it just takes a longer time for the shoes to get torn up which I can also achieve by buying durable shoes. Thanks for the review anyway.

[@anhiirr]

so then does suede really matter as an upper if youre skating non-abrasive grip? I like grippy grip but the newer tech synthetic suede uppers are pretty dope and its specifically made for that purpose at a bit of a premium price.

[@braydenowsley121]

Honestly I'm just gonna try it out because I've been trying to land kickflips (I'm soooooo close) and my BRAND NEW shoes are getting so messed up.

[@Yuboimataeo]

Prob peeled off cause it already had griptape on thendeck before not a good mating surface

[@JBZofficial812]

I bet this grip is really good for darkslides

[@jacksamunster4407]

Seriously one thing being a skater taught me was not to give two shits about my shoes lol. Part of the reason I buy cheap skate shoes. I stick to my Jessup or mob and nothing else.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

Did you try how it goes when the griptape is wet?

[@crusheen]

E&J Brandy vase. Classy! LOL. Used to drink that shit like crazy when I still drank.

[@runswimplayball]

Do you still use the shoe saving griptape?

[@purplegill10]

Hey radrat, their site got recently updated where they said they fixed the peeling issue