Jim Newman & Patrick Kicken: Simply This, Fresh and New!

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[@NewNow4u]

I Love this Statement on Jim's Website: THERE IS NOTHING TO FIND BECAUSE NOTHING IS LOST, THE ULTIMATE EMBRACE IS ALL THERE IS

[@pedestrian_0]

A Jim Newman video with comments!

[@waloacme]

Jim is always very entertaining.

[@sooparticular]

hes the best!!!

[@DavePollard]

Thanks for this. I think the best one-on-one interviews (of which this is one) illuminate this message much more coherently and succinctly than the Q&A meetings.

[@KARIS1961]

I’ve been binge watching Jim’s videos. So much hopelessness and grasping and anxiety show up. This is a good thing. ❤

[@Jesse-fk3xc]

There is no good or bad jim claims

[@angelmoon8114]

Just awesome 🤩 resonate with the apparent Jim Newman more than any other speaker…….. apparently ❤

[@caseyanderson2345]

Checkout Emmerson, Anna Brown too.

[@borislanger7194]

Loved the personal bits, a real suprise was that he moved to the US again. Glad to have met him in Essen Germany, thought he triggered me on the personal level.

[@paulsagerman5111]

The personal bits are appreciated. They seem like possible ways to see how this 'way of being' might manifest in the world. The simplicity of the responses seems to point to an answer.

[@ArtOfHealth]

If “The search is over” as I said three years ago, prior to the shutdown, why am I here today? Because of simply “THIS.” Thank you two gentlemen for volunteering for “THIS.”

[@ArtOfHealth]

Haha, I corrected a letter. That removed your heart like💖. Crazy algorithims.

[@kevinevans2080]

More and more clarity. Thanks. Namaste.🙏🙏🙏🙏👍

[@jasonnathaniel6273]

great interview! love the light hearted atitude! thank you!

[@barbaraangele8615]

A great interview!!! Without the personal questions the message gets lost IMO. He avoided your question about how he fell in love with the love of his life. Clearly he wants to stay on his topic. Thank you for this Great interview

[@michaelmay766]

Interesting to see Jim being a bit more cautious, reserved, in parts almost intimidated, but absolutely natural and entertaining, in this interview, obviously due to the more nonchalant nature of the interview with lots of questions tapping into Jim's private life, or also maybe because Laura was present? For all these reasons I found it to be one of the most pleasurable and insightful interviews ever with him. A bit sad though (for me!) (but glad for him!) to hear he's going to leave Europe for the States. I'll miss him being around close-by among 'us here in Europe'. Met him last year in St. Gallen. Turning point in my life! I wish him all the best always! I rate the interview 10/10. The interaction between interviewer and interviewee was brilliant. Many great thanks!

[@MrDjmirk]

Laura? I thought his wife was Rita. Have things changed?

[@michaelmay766]

@@MrDjmirk Yes apparently things have changed. I was as suprised as you.

[@MrDjmirk]

I can’t wrap my head around the idea of him going through a divorce or starting a new relationship. What would be the point?

[@michaelmay766]

@@MrDjmirk Well, anything can happen. Car accidents, or a divorce. Why not. 🙃😁. There is effectively no point to it. That's maybe precisely why he can do it. 😄

[@kiwikim5163]

@@MrDjmirkwho can know?

[@gabymalembe]

in other words, you can’t get rid of the “me’, the ego, or the “you” because there never were any.

[@caseyanderson2345]

"The idea that there's no you, is... unacceptable." ~ Jim Absolutely. Yet, when seen, is pure freedom. From everything.

[@angelmoon8114]

Awesome 🤩

[@nozulani]

there is nothing you need to see in order to be free. everyone's already free.

[@sooparticular]

OMG I love Jim !! Comedy genius! I have him and Parsons up there with Eddie Murphy George Carlin etc! Thanks for the great interview...Jim always makes my day

[@franciscolopezherrera948]

I've never have seen Jim in this way. Thanks!

[@ckelley623]

Next you need to interview his wife and find out if he is human ❤

[@SpidermanInLondon]

Exactly! Although I can answer that for you… 😉

[@jorgefelino]

There is no he

[@gavinkombucha8179]

And I'm puzzled.....thought he has been with an Austrian wife for a decade ? Suddenly with an American one ?!

[@birdwatching_u_back]

@@gavinkombucha8179 yeah I’m also interested to know what’s up, if anyone is in the loop haha

[@gavinkombucha8179]

@@birdwatching_u_back nothing like non duality gossip !! I spent a few days on retreat with Rupert Spira ...his sister and mother were in the audience.....later heard they were seen in the same location on a Tony Parsons retreat ! After Jim i wonder if Rupert is the most deluded apparent I ever !

[@gajaiagnesmagnes2224]

Great. Thanks for noone. Jims appearently the favorite New. Always unknown. Thanks.

[@WildSatsang]

Beautiful transmission. This is the level of speak my "I Am" cherishes (lol)

[@zanna660]

its hilarious, so straight forward simple and no person can hear it ! lol

[@gorankarlberg4012]

Jim i a good guy! Nice and kind.

[@pedrosanchezdelmonton9995]

This should be called The ping pong interview

[@davinderrehal6151]

I know nothing is happening here but when does the table tennis start ?

[@hackman8909]

😂

[@santim2341]

The tennis court table is soon cute! Lol 😂🤾‍♂️

[@ravenwild5184]

Dear Interviewer, I am curious if you have done internal inquiry? A lot of your questions seem as if you haven't done any inquiry into seeing there is no you. It seems like you aren't hearing that there is no one here. Once you realize there is no person inside your questions are meaningless. I did watch it because I enjoy hearing Jim's message. All your personal questions made it seem like you didn't listen to Jim at all.

[@zanna660]

well yes but the me cant hear this so.......

[@FoxDaCosta]

Who Is judging the interviewer, you or yourself?

[@ravenwild5184]

@@FoxDaCosta there is a place called observation that holds no judgement here. A simple pointing to inquiry. Blessings 💞

[@pedestrian_0]

The same can be said about your comment, by your logic you wouldn't be questioning anything about this interview because all of it is part of what is, and what is isn't confusing because there's no one to be confused.

[@ravenwildspirit]

@@pedestrian_0 I am simply pointing to inquiry. Until it is experienced that there is no personal self then one needs to inquire within. This isn't about logic. This is experiencing and seeing through illusion of a personal self. Most of the questions were asked of a person which Jim kept trying to point out wasn't his experience. 🙏

[@Anorectic.Bumblebee]

I love how a tiny bit of the right corner tooth sticks out when his mouth is closed. :-)`

[@petrasciencetutors9003]

"Pple wanting to take a selfie, with someone who says there's no self"... Haha..that cracked me up

[@Krod4321]

It's obvious you don't understand what's being said, but there's no need to be rude by laughing in his face or trying to belittle him.

[@DonTrump-sv1si]

Laughing in his face or trying to belittle him is whats happening to no one.

[@-a-l-t-]

❤️❤️❤️

[@birdwatching_u_back]

So yeah, depersonalization/derealization disorder is definitely something that (apparently lol) happens, it’s just very different from what this message is talking about. If anything, I think it has to do with a very, very strong “me” experience, just like psychotic breaks are. Everything is mediated through the ego-something psychoanalysts call “secondary narcissism”, which is integral to a psychological break from conventional reality. (That’s just a whole other can of worms, though. This message can fuel a psychotic or dissociated state, but then again, many, many things can.) If anyone reading this is going through psychological issues, don’t let this message impact your decision to get help. Jim himself explicitly says that he *doesn’t advise against therapy.* Psychological stuff has nothing to do with the message-no more or less than anything else does, that is. Anyway, lovely interview, thanks!

[@user-nh8zt9wl3c]

Poor Jim needs more knowledge about the physical universe. All of this silliness can be explained scientifically, but these folks seem to like metaphysics, not physics. Spiritual psychosis.

[@birdwatching_u_back]

Idk, what he’s talking about has nothing to do with physics, really. It’s only spiritual people that want to turn physics into metaphysics. Otherwise, physics is just physics lol..there’s no mystical truth hidden in it. And Jim’s talking about neither physics nor metaphysics. And yeah, Jim’s gotten more spacey recently. Another nonduality speaker, Dawn Garland, sometimes mentions how talking about “liberation” can get trickier the more time passes, because you can sort of forget what seeking was like. Also, I think Jim’s gone through lots of changes “in the story” recently (sorry for the frustrating nondual jargon haha), and we can’t really say what’s going on psychologically. Doesn’t matter, really. A lot of his older stuff is crystal clear, though. I think he does better when he’s just left to talk freely, and his personal matters aren’t intruded upon. I was just watching this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqWui6eufq2Jf5Ysi=4nvxbtLTL-lC276n

[@authenticprague]

"..people switch it off. " Jim: "Yes!!"

[@graceoline]

13:29 a sip of coffee- such a serene but natural moment

[@scottscottlewis11]

People say " I want to see what cannot be seen!!! Show it to me!!" Not understanding but there is no understanding and that's the proof 🤣🤣🤣

[@curiosity_saved_the_cat]

Great! Just this, without this beating around the bush.

[@whowonthatballgame4298]

Did many high priced seminars and like Newman and Parsons have said ,,,,,they help for a little while The message that Newman and Parsons have shared cost nothing. Nothing is for free but not for me .

[@premganga8822]

🌷

[@alexpirro]

Awesome!!! What is the movie that Patrick names in minute 49:08?

[@NonDualiteit]

It's called CAFE, with Jennifer Love Hewitt. Here's the trailer and synopsis: www.imdb.com/title/tt1436572/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3

[@ANANDSINDHU10]

Response vs teaching? A response could be a transmission.. A transmission could be a response Like switching a light inside the other person.

[@noukrudi6384]

Finally the main subject is "why are Jim and Rita no more together ?" 😀 "Only this" but in love with another woman and happy to be back in America ... I feel something sad in it, probably because I'm living in Europe and still in the mess of "me, the others in an apparent world" 😉😅

[@howtowinthegameoflife2714]

👍🏻

[@DonTrump-sv1si]

Interviewer: Is Laura the love of YOUR life? Jim: Yes Interviewer: Do you like teaching this message? Jim: There is no me. Me: 🤷‍♀

[@the_absolute_light]

First question is obviously speaking within a context of relativity. There’s an ‘apparent’ individual living a life (a body) that responds to a name, or “you”. The second question is referring to a message that is blatantly pointing beyond any contextual reference. In that regard, the individual speaking it is one with the wholeness of what’s being pointed to. One is the apparent duality that the non-dual appears as. The other isn’t pretending to be anything else. There’s some clarity, maybe.

[@DonTrump-sv1si]

@@the_absolute_light But its true that he could answer those two questions in the exact opposite manner.

[@WeLoveMusicStudio]

........................ ♡

[@theoell2049]

He looks younger

[@TheKarnall]

My separate sense of self is Mexican, we're open to any kind of real surrealism ;)

[@a234633]

U.g. krishnumodi

[@jesuisravi]

Good interview. I guess you either get it or you don't. I don't know that I do.

[@cindyweir9645]

For me, he isn’t much different than the atheist, it all falls off in the end, the cliff that is

[@rosa-boom-nonduality]

💗

[@gregoryswanepoel6328]

his silly questions are not so silly actually..actually

[@markbusch5907]

Haha what a great joke! Didnt see that coming

[@ami156]

How much do I need to pay jim Newman to say this is it for an hour??

[@MajorCulturalDivide]

The way he laughs at the depersonalization comment seems kind of...uh...depersonalized. I mean at least he should address it seriously as it is a common accusation against his message.

[@tchaffan9998]

Is this Plan B interviewing Jim? This voice is familiar

[@user-su6yl2sb1h]

Hahahaha😅

[@joanl.9702]

Really sounds like him! Who knew, bitcoin and non duality!

[@dilanthaperera2865]

Jim"s Massage is absolutely right and to the point, However his massage is one of the Buddist Versions, unfortunately he doesnt mention about it orgin there are 3 Sutras in buddist call ( Annata Lakkana, Diamond and Wimalakeerthi sutras which tell the same massage ).

[@Syssn3ck]

Wait, Jim is giving massage now?😂

[@bhaktima108]

Buddhist massage?… not for this

[@ccr7712]

I am not surprised that Jim left Europe, been there last year, and it seems more divided then the US, lots of people I talked to want their country to leave the Union, the western countries became too liberal, lots of bureaucracy and red tape. Corruption became rampant, especially in the former eastern block. And with the uncertainty with Russia, it’s not a desirable place to live.

[@namenaim1560]

Maybe best to point microphone towards rather than away. Thanks anyway.

[@Qworld00]

33:15 If me is no longer there then whatever is there how would it know if anything is happening? Exactly that’s the point but things still seems to be happening and no one knows them hence nothing is happening. Does not it confirms that there still exist a no one who still knows even though it knows nothing? Does anybody gets it? Or…No one gets not.

[@FoxDaCosta]

😬😬😬

[@ccr7712]

I wouldn’t say that it’s not happening because no one knows it, it’s not happening, because it’s nothing appearing as everything that there is ( objects, sounds, sensational, thoughts ), but yes there is no one who knows that, the knower is the sense of ME, but that’s not why it’s “not happening “. Nothing being everything is a good description of this, or unknowing ISness.

[@othernewsid2]

The "one" in "no one", refers to the ego self. I believe🤭 What knows that theres nothing happening and theres no one? THAT...is The Self ( capital S) = The absolute = Bruhmmun = Shiva = Yahweh..etc

[@jimrich4192]

🤣

[@Joyabulthuis]

Great interview..to make it personel, I thought Jim’s wife is called Rita.. now he changed to Laura?

[@evedotcom]

Yeah, I wondered that 👀 Apparent juicy gossip haha

[@markbusch5907]

Non duality gossip hah

[@zanna660]

well if there is no one or any control in life its just what happend

[@evedotcom]

@@zanna660 have fun saying that to a partner/ex partner 😂

[@zanna660]

@@evedotcom lol no ! 😄 the first rule of nonduality , dont talk about nonduality 🤐

[@ANANDSINDHU10]

There is nothing Right and wrong with mind game..! As everything is new Each response in new.. 🤔 nonduality police

[@AdrianaHernandez108]

WellAdvaita means No Two😅

[@aquietsky]

A lot of yous in the comments 😂

[@AdrianaHernandez108]

So for the apparent Jime life goes on as usual, as usual for all of us I guess, there is not a gym live in his life and it’s not his life neither…. so there is only life apparently happening for an apartment Someone

[@WallySoto-yi8fz]

25 thousand viewers all clueless of what is being shared including the interviewer. He is the most clueless! & that is unconditionally what is happening!

[@billyjames9861]

Colossians 3:3 ► For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. Seeing that you were dead [al-Baqarah 2:28] He who is forgetful of the Self, mistaking the physical body for it. Ramana Maharshi ----- Is the world real? So a genius can work out the dead? Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. Albert Einstein. ------ However: (Which see) (Matthew 2:18) "Nothing is as it seems. Nor is it otherwise." Lankavatara Sutra - Mahāyāna Buddhism There is no greater mystery than this; that being the reality we seek to gain reality. Sri Ramana Maharshi Plato’s cave analogy. Inprisoned inside the cave (Us), prisoners see the shadows on the wall and mistakenly view the shadows as reality. Greek word "cosmos" Meaning "In The World" functioning apart from God And according to Christian gnostic understanding (Greek Gnosis or Hindu Jnana) - "Seraphims" Keter - Crown Divine Plan ~ The Angel of Death. (Read John 7:7) Satan is the ruler of this "cosmos" (John 12:31; 16:11; 1 John 5:19) Islam. The Surah takes its title from the sentence, Wa anzalna' l-hadida, of verse 25 The iron Hinduism. (Caught up in Samsara - Maya ~ The Malevolant illusion) ( Sanskrit: “magic”) In which this universe like a snake on a rope imagined appears. The Self looks like the world. But this is just an illusion. The Self is everywhere. One. Still. Free. Perfect. The witness of all things, Awareness Without action, clinging or desire. (1.12) yogananda.com.au/upa/Ashtavakra_gita/Ashtavakra_Gita00quotes.html I very clearly see that which has been born and I also know that I am not that which is born, and that is why I am totally fearless. Nisargadatta Maharaj The knowledge ‘I am’ or beingness is an illusion The beingness is a superimposition - A cloak of illusion Over the absolute. Nisargadatta Maharaj 15. He who sees the universe may try to deny it. What has the desireless to do? He sees not even though he sees. ASTAVAKRA SAMHITA - Chapter XVIII

[@doramaso]

So he doesn't lable anything with his mind!

[@maryberry6067]

How can there be a her , when there is know one ?

[@user-nh8zt9wl3c]

Spiritual psychosis. Of xourse, enlightened people are just too smart to suffer from that.

[@FeeFoo1]

@19.35 when he gives the “look” after being told to move closer to the mic. He is raging :-]

[@ccr7712]

It’s the unconditional love 😂😂😂

[@warricksoto3766]

No wonder interviewer hides! He is just ignorance looking for explanations about the unexplainable! Actually, hubris!

[@miket1591]

15:00, 25:40, 47:50

[@the.trollgubbe2642]

Nah have listened to many of these non duality people.. In my mind...this is not the solution for everybody, it's too simple and this talk about what is... is not for everybody. Yep worked for them , great...but for everyone else it doesn't

[@hermansohier7643]

If there's no one how could it worked for them ?You still think this is personal but it's not .And what do you mean by ; My mind ?;

[@angelmoon8114]

Who cares about apparent Advaita Police 😂

[@vioricahafsi5808]

His message is incompleet ...The person, the " I " do not exists , only the Absolute existence exists and you (everybody ) are That. Everything exists only mental, not phisical and is made , concieved by consciousness but the "One" who see all that is you like The Absolute not like a person ...The Absolute is awarness . The person do not see, the Absolute see through the person ...The body and the mind are only tools to experience "life" , are your tools , you beeing the Absolute.Sorry for my English is not my native language...Everything can be understood reading the books from the author Terence Gray ,he signs his books with the pseudonim Wei Wu Wei...Books : The Open Secret, The 10 th man and 3--4 more. I found them in Amazon...

[@pedestrian_0]

His message is not incomplete, he's simply saying your comment is part of what is, and that's it. Only what is is what's real and that's it.

[@mattk6343]

He was specifically asked this exact question multiple times (about consciousness). His message is not about any of what you are talking about.

[@ccr7712]

His message is misleading at least, I would say, presenting this as liberation, or unconditional love is very misleading.

[@riccardololo3494]

You can say all this things whatever you want, but when you receive a punch believe me that you are real

[@wavesfromthedarksea3629]

Oh no. I can't believe that he hasn't answered this, it must be because it is a question that could only come from such a lofty position no one has had the wisdom to bring it up previously.

[@riccardololo3494]

@@wavesfromthedarksea3629 i dont understand your point

[@FoxDaCosta]

Not necessary because there's no one to revive a punch. The punch appears, the sensation/pain appears and life moves on.

[@riccardololo3494]

@@FoxDaCosta there's mistake, cause the "pain appears" is a dual action. If there's only pain, there is no pain, cause he cannot perceive himself. When you say pain is appearing, you are unconciously intended the feeling of pain. Its dual. A distort sense of self can lead to think there's only pain. It can be an initial stadium of dissociative disorder. Be careful with non duality

[@wavesfromthedarksea3629]

@@riccardololo3494 I don't know if it's the language barrier or a logic problem (i suspect both) but your reply made very little sense. 'cause the "pain appears" is a dual action. ' Pain arises (as what is happening) is not dual unless there is a one is thinking in time. The memory 'of when pain wasn't ' and the present of 'when pain is' would be dual. 'if there is only pain there is no pain cause he cannot perceive himself' Non sequitur. If there is only black there is no black - certainly, but not because you cannot perceive yourself. Non duality implies there is no self TO perceive the self, not that there is a person who cannot perceive himself. Jim makes this very clear in many videos. 'A distort of self can lead to think there is only pain' - begging the question and a non sequitur , I would not know where to begin to decipher this. 'It can be an initial stadium of dissociative disorder. Be careful with non duality.' Dissasociative disorder - I suspect you mean this (from the wiki) -' Depersonalization-derealization disorder: periods of detachment from self or surrounding which may be experienced as "unreal" (lacking in control of or "outside" self) while retaining awareness that this is only a feeling and not a reality.' Yes. I agree that one needs to be careful with THIS. Feeling things are unreal however is *not* the same as 'real and unreal' which is a statement one cannot pin down whatsoever unlike the former. The last line ' while retaining awareness that this is only a feeling and not a reality.' would mark the distinction between a self feeling there is no self and the reality of there being no self.

[@VL-ne1nx]

Meh

[@davidstrevens9170]

Is it just me or is my intuition correct in noticing a distinct defensiveness in Newmans disposition? He is making a conscious effort to speak softly. Why? Are we supposed to believe that he isn't feeling tension? The more he invests in calmness the more obvious are the undercurrents of his self-concern. I have been in the presence of people who don't need to argue their point of view. They have genuinely surrendered to what is. They exude peace and inspire confidence without saying a word. This fad of radical non-duality is likely to be short-lived. The advocates are simply unconvincing energetically. They are bitter and resentful that divine revelation has been denied them. So they take this "apparent" short cut. It reeks of ego. No wonder they've been suspended.

[@the_absolute_light]

I think the point is unconditionality. So it seems like you’re imposing conditions of ‘what it has to look like’ or else it’s not authentic, which is perpetuating the overlooking of the main point. Ok, so those judgements about Jim are there, and that’s what is hahaha. It’s the Absolute just as equally appearing as that. There’s no exclusivity to what he’s talking about. If you’re excluding ‘this’ from ‘that’ as something divine or not divine, it seems like you’re talking about something entirely different than this. And funnily, that’s the Absolute appearing as THAT too haha. So there’s no real difference to grab hold of.

[@davidstrevens9170]

@@the_absolute_light Intellectual masturbation.

[@davidstrevens9170]

@@the_absolute_light Jim is excluding himself. Divinity isn't a new fad. If Jim wants to short circuit reality then maybe he should short circuit himself as an authentic demonstration of his unwillingness to participate.

[@the_absolute_light]

@@davidstrevens9170I don’t see it that way. That body named Jim is also the wholeness of what is. It’s just that there already isn’t an exclusively existing agent that possesses and controls that body. There’s no one ‘behind’ it to exclude in the first place. And it’s actually already like that over there too. I’m not sure what you mean by divinity really. To me, either everything is divine or nothing is. Any distinction of ‘this but not that’ or ‘that but not this’ is a delusion. Which is fine, that’s just the Absolute appearing as another delusion. Your response seems like it might be refusing to accept that this revelation is truly unconditional, meaning it doesn’t necessarily have to look like someone is glowing gold and happy-go-lucky 24/7. Sorry but the Absolute is appearing as literally everything, not just all the positive stuff you want to cling onto. Recognizing it does not instantly erase any past psychological conditioning which might unfold as being more stern or apathetic. And people that may have recognized it, yet naturally present that way, recognize that it’s that too! So there’s no ‘need’ to force themselves to present as the stereotype of a Buddha. It’s only someone’s conditioned projection that it ‘must’ look that way. Have you asked yourself how attached to your conditioned preferences and preconceived notions you are?

[@davidstrevens9170]

@@the_absolute_light Yes. I agree with the theory of radical non-duality. I don't agree that Jim is presenting as an example of the unconditioned. He is presenting as having had an intellectual realisation of the unconditioned. He is yet to embody that realisation through his heart. Limitations are an aspect of human experience in order for graduation. We gradually accept the nature of reality Just because I am willing to acknowledge those limitations doesn't mean I am the architect of them. The mind may want to bypass the heart. There's a difference between the minds desire to know and the knowing itself. Jim is a victim of wanting to know. If there is any confusion regarding this then pay attention to his behaviour before he had the intellectual realisation. He was possessed by self-pity. Radical non-duality is his pacifier.

[@transcendingdimensions8412]

Rude interviewer..

[@onelove1968]

Nobody wants to say or hear the words ... "I Don't Know." These 3 simple, boring words have no 'true' value within the existential marketplace. The seeker and speaker seem to place high value on good storytelling and providing radical answers to simple questions. But of course, that's still (and always) just a guess. I don't know SHIT!

[@jimrich4192]

Jim looks so BORED, TIRED, TURNED OFF & even a little ANGRY with this silly, pathetic, irritating & JUVENILLE "interview" that is more like a mindless speech & opinion fest from Patric, than anything meaningful, yet Jim still manages to slip in a few nondual GEMS next to or under Patrick's CHILDISH PRATTLE! For me, it's an interesting example of a liberated person (Jim) struggling to make SMALL TALK with a LOST person (Patric), so there's still some value in this silly, personal mind game that Patrick loves to play. I learned a LOT from Jim, but nothing at all from poor Patric! So be it....😂😅🎉

[@BLCKSQR]

you REALLY like using CAPS to emphasize a POINT don't you

[@ordinaryguy815]

I never resonated with Jim. Somethings off with his energy. It's like he's just 'studied' Tony Parsons enough to recite him clearly. There's an authenticity about Tony that Jim doesn't have.

[@jaysilverstone7221]

Really? It's circituitous tosh from both of them. I find both Matt Garrett and Occult Theo (in different ways) fresher . "This is happening" - I could have told you that

[@ordinaryguy815]

@@jaysilverstone7221 Haven't heard of the ones you mentioned. My main teacher is Francis Lucille

[@jaysilverstone7221]

@@ordinaryguy815 thank you for that, will have a look. I would suggest checking out bentinho Massarro and Aaron Abke as they both offer models that provide for horizontal integration which I find absent in the non-duality brigade. Also Frank Yang - his videos are just mad. Be well

[@zanna660]

@@jaysilverstone7221 Matt and Theo are both teachers speaking to the me, Jim is not

[@zanna660]

@@ordinaryguy815 Jim is not a teacher and this is not a teacheing

[@richardprice9730]

🖖🥴 a fraud? Yes unfortunately he is and very imperfect too I'm afraid he doesn't walk his talk allmost a touch of narcissus as the real motives bleed through his motives I suspect are actually quite selfish ,he doesn't see anything wrong with game play the very antithesis of being genuine he tweaks the same message of TP his mentor more magician than mystic intellectually correct but in person he is preaching what he does NOT live and that is dangerous for others ie misleads them 😉

[@hermansohier7643]

What do you mean by imperfection ?The fact that he doesn't see anything wrong doesn't mean he doesn't have preferences .And what is he preaching that he does not live ?

[@richardprice9730]

@@hermansohier7643 It is very subtle But his message isn't like Nisagadattas in fact he is allmost blaze ,so when he started out I tried to email him ,then out of the blue he rang ,I was so excited and so full of joy ,love surprise . What followed was a rather hostile rigid defensive at times allmost offensive monologue from Jim ,as if he had to belittle me prove me somehow ,later I xhecked whag he was saying against ancient texts and my own experience ,they or it doesn't tally there is something not right ,if was to try to put my finger on it I'd say a kind of narcissistic personality with a kind of I'm right etc atitude, he is not being honest etc in the same way I think TP is playing a kind of game ,intellectually it sounds OK but the person and what they are saying somehow don't tally .

[@hermansohier7643]

@@richardprice9730 Oh but i agree but you have to listen to them until you see thru them ,then they're finished but you keep them alive .That's the test he is talking about i quess .He and TP have a triggerpoint ,the moment i saw this they vanished .When i hear people talking about this i know exactly if they listend to Jim or Tony because there's no authenticity ,just parrots repeating empty words .The teacher or non-teacher has to disappear ,when they disappear you will disappear

[@richardprice9730]

@@hermansohier7643 no you still haven't seen it ,he or a child like in control part of himself believes he is enlightened or sees it, knows etc ,it's a self denial - delusion, a form of narcissistic specialness ,to cover up a whole host of other probably self critical, inferior inner voices etc if you watch his videos ,his laugh his small world stuff you'll see ,like yet he claims to be free, TP has made a name and lot of money and a cult following from intellectual cleverness, like a priest who pretends he's a Saint or a Saint who declares I'm one etc its all the same sham or game 🎮

[@richardprice9730]

@@hermansohier7643 we live in the age of narcissistic cleverness it is in the air like neurosis such people demand attention love to be central to everything ,convince others etc look at me the message is often the presentation may even be the ultimate there isnt a me ,or I'm not just when it's conscious and in awareness and owned up to then it can be dealt with its a cultish age

[@bjames692]

This is atheist BS

[@MrDjmirk]

Actually no.

[@ccr7712]

He is atheist for sure, he denies the existence of god.

[@sooparticular]

nope

[@hermansohier7643]

That's just another believe .

[@axutgautam1187]

Yeah, Jim should totally watch True detective season 1 haha.🫂 49:23