The Next Generation ÖBB RAILJET is not actually that good...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

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[@thejourneyplanner9037]

100% agree on business class, what a disaster! The old business class was the best seat in Europe and overall these new seats are all boxed in and resemble a school bus. How in the world would the best rail company in Europe come up with this horrible design on their flagship train! This is a huge mistake in my opinion

[@NonstopEurotrip]

100% agree 💯😂

[@mancubwwa]

second best seat in Europe after Freciarossa executive, but otherwise i agree.

[@keahnig164]

Best rail company?

[@jarnklonsfiskeochannatgott4377]

​@@mancubwwa no SJ:s seats are the best, especially the seats on the X2000.

[@Gallygoy]

@@NonstopEurotrip Hi , i have traveled alot of OBB old railjet alooot ...,and i loved it alot too. Now, the new railjets do have a different approach when it comes to design ,baare in mind that OBB always look to improve -uninprove - even so -you said -if it aint broke ,dont mess with it , right - but i like it ,the new railjet ,its just different ,the old was good too , it just takes some time to get used to this new design ,thats all. Did you know that OBB has taken over basiclly all night trains (different places in europe , i heard) and they actually manange to keep it running, pretty good huh? You can do a google seach and see what you find out about it , i just heard it. In the end of the line - i love all OBB trains and wagons , passenger and cargo , i love austria and deuchland - DB and all of that aswell , even though they arent as productive as OBB apparently...i heard too -(inside infomation) Good luck in the future with OBB

[@natewp]

Travelled recently with these in 2nd class on the nearly 7h journey from Bologna to Munich. While the seats were rather hard, the padding was enough and the recline also decent enough to make the journey quite comfortable. What I liked the most was the high level of privacy of the seats and the large tables. The ambience was rather nice too, with nice warm colours throughout. I have not been on the older Railjets, but I honestly don't mind these at all. Gendered toilets are a rather weird choice and I wished the headrest and seat was not too hard, but bearable enough even for a longer journey.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

If you'd tried the old ones, you see their endlessly better trains, all around

[@domin727]

Gendered Toilets make sense if you mount a urinal in the men's room. Otherwise it is really whithout any use.

[@CalinFR]

Ah, it makes sense then. You had no term of comparison

[@thiemafe]

In my opinion the 2nd class seats in the old railjets are some of the worst seats out there.

[@christianzotter4224]

For me, this New RJ is a kind of "failed construction"! F.e. the "dining car" is again a downgrade, and the "Business Class" is just a joke!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly this ☝🏻

[@stefanv9660]

So many problems?🤣Rich ppl problems :)) Come to Romania if you want to see problems.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😆😆😆

[@vasek2261]

I absolutely agree with you and you will like new ČD Comfortjet, it will be an upgrade of 1. gen Railjet. I'm really looking forward to it

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I can't wait to try it 😀

[@domin727]

I can understand the critic in all but one point. The steps are just a necessary tradeoff. Yes you could pretend the old railjet was technically accessible via lifts but this "solution" is less than a good one for people requiring it. Someone always has to operate it and it takes time and personnel to do so and the lifts were even often broken. The goal is that people with disabilities can use public transport without help and the old mesures did not provide this. If the lift could be used by the person autonomously this would be at least a slightly different case. This way however its better for the train to be low floor and that means either steps like here or ramps like Stadler uses. The rest of the critic I find verry understandable. Businessclass is useless now and compartment I did never really find usefull in general. Shrinking the dining car to next to nothing is definitely a big step back as well although I understand why they did it, ÖBB is literally being overrun by passengers as of late, because the government introduced new cheap season tickets, so they are under a lot of pressure to squeeze as much seeting into the allready ordered trainsets as they can. I still think the new railjet, although modern, feels like a downgrade to safe money and ressources.

[@Fan652w]

I agree with you. However, your point about the consequences of the 1095-Euros-a-year Klima Ticket is by far=and-away the most important.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Good points well made 🙏🏻

[@jgcondron]

The platform heights are just too low in Austria, Germany and Italy etc. Very poor historical decision-making.

[@Fan652w]

@@jgcondron The standard height in Germany is quite high, 76 cms. The modern stations in both Austria and Switzerland are 55 cms. One of the reasons for the success of the Swiss train manufacturer Stadler is that it builds trains with wide doors allowing fast level boarding from 55 cm platforms. Austrian Railways (OBB) has just placed a large order for Stadler double-deck trains, desperately needed because of the increase in traffic caused by the 1095 Euros a year Klima ticket. The lower deck of individual carriages is fully accessible.

[@marktownend8065]

Fully level boarding benefits all travellers and the operator with quicker boarding and fewer trip and fall incidents that can cause delays. Just wheel luggage, baby buggies, cycles straight on and off. Less heavy lifting of luggage and people struggling with steps.

[@hypernewlapse]

if you think this is bad get ready for the 3rd generation which will be the Stadler KISS, btw with no cafeteria only machines, in theory because it will be used in shorter routes with high demand. at the end of the day in the new open market paradign operators must compete and if westbahn is able to lower prices by adding density obb must to, because at the end of the day regardless of what they say people only want cheap travel. it is like with airplanes where everyon is indignant about ryanair yet theyre still number one in passangers

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Oh I'm not ready for that 😂

[@quaxlrenault4gtl913]

Ich fliege grundsätzlich nicht mit Ryanair ,allein schon wegen der unmöglichen Arbeitsbedingungen !!

[@ex101jc]

you miss the part where they are not going to operate on the longer distance trains but more on the Line Wien - Salzburg on the slower service where people for relations like Wien - Linz or Wien - Salzburg would rather take the faster RJX service anyways. The question is, will you need a dining car for a relation such as Wien - Amstetten?

[@alanfarquharhill]

Well I had ppl standing in my face in the old Business Class carriage after another train was cancelled, presumably I would have avoided this on the new Railjet

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I guess so 😂

[@Fan652w]

Thank you for a very informative video. I love the old Railjet trains. The only problem with them is the steep steps at all DOORS. On these new trains MOST of the doors are level boarding, but there is now only one door per carrriage. So stop dwell times (now a big problem in Austria because of the huge increase in long-distance passengers caused by 1095 Euros-a-year Klima Ticket) are going to be very long. The paper rubbish bags idea seems to have been (half) borrowed from Scandinavia. However, in Scandinavia, each seat bay usually has a large supply of bags. The passengers put their rubbish in a bag and then LEAVE THE BAGS IN THE BINS BY THE DOORWAYS.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Fair comments, but the old one is still better 😉

[@drdewott9154]

Yeah as a Scandinavian I also prefer this solution. Having a tiny dirty trash bin next to you the whole ride, which likely smells of filth and rot the whole time is not very attractive, not to mention very unsanitary. Though the bags aren't my cup of tea either and DSB have now discontinued the plastic bags too. Even when they were in place, I still usually got out of my seat and walked to the nearest set of trash bins at the doors for throwing out anything like a doggy bag of food.

[@bobmoneyman]

The rail jet had a glow down

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😆😆😆

[@antoniodemunari3335]

Idk if its better to have a higher floor with the door steps or having low floor entrance with many inernal steps

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I think what they had before worked just fine!

[@SilentdragonDe]

@@NonstopEurotrip You also aren't in a wheelchair though, so maybe our opinion doesn't really matter that much here. Though to be honest, I don't think I mind steps on the train that much - how often do you really walk around the train if you're not making a video of it?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

@@SilentdragonDe fair point, and of course all passengers matter. That why I cover accessibility as much as I do. This isn't just about wheelchair users tho, people with reduced mobility would struggle to move through the train now, whereas before they could. And I'm not just talking about boarding. Going to the dining car, toilets, etc

[@jurcekp]

@@SilentdragonDe There is no minibar service because of the internal steps compared to the old RJ.

[@digitaleswerken]

The new ÖBB business class is actually even worse. The foldable tables in bussiness class are so wobbly that it's pretty much impossible to work on them with a laptop.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yep!! Better off at a first class table seat

[@TheBTG88]

I recently took an older Railjet business class from Vienna to Budapest. The seats were sculpted and very comfortable as they not only reclined but also had a footrest that raised the legs. Well worth the extra 15 euro. The train left a couple of minutes late, but ended up arriving about 25 minutes late as we had to stop/slow down along the way to, according to the announcement, ‘ensure proper spacing on the railway.’ 🤔

[@Hadubrand1965]

You are talking about the "old" RJ business class experience....

[@TheBTG88]

@@Hadubrand1965 That’s why I mentioned it was the older Railjet business class.

[@marcogeurts9881]

@Nonstop Eurotrip the 1216 locomotive number 1216 025/E 190 025 is a world record locomotive due to that it reached during trials a top speed of 357 km/h(222 mph) on the highspeed line near Nürnberg on 2 September 2006 before it was delivered to the ÖBB

[@NonstopEurotrip]

If you watched the video, you'd have seen that I mentioned that near the start.

[@marcogeurts9881]

@@NonstopEurotrip oh sorry 😅

[@samtrak1204]

I like the single seats in open compartments in old Business Class. New seats "look" stiff and uncomfortable.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I agree, the old business class is excellent! Yeah I don't know what they were thinking tbh Sam 🤔

[@marktownend8065]

We're in a transition towards level boarding currently. This is an imperfect solution having so many steps internally but necessary with the Siemens design approach, retaining conventional bogies with high floor sections over them at the vehicle ends and providing a low floor 'well' section in the middle containing the external doors. By contrast, the new ICE-L design in Germany will have a fully level floor internally at the same height as German platforms (majority 760mm). The trains are from Talgo and their unique running gear design allows the intercar passageway to pass between the tops of the wheels and remain completely level throughout the length of the train. The ride quality of Talgos with fewer wheels tends to be poor relative to a traditional bogie arrangement however. While the main driver for level boarding is disabled accessibility, other operational benefits are easier, faster, more confident boarding for all and fewer minor trip and fall incidents that can cause delay.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Most people, especially those with prams or reduced mobility agree with me, unfortunately

[@theexcaliburone5933]

Of course the real solution is high platforms but for some reason only Asia sees that

[@european6380]

This still wouldn't work for most of Europe, especially not Austria and Italy, which use 550mm platforms.

[@Xavieralex83]

I agree the new business class don t have individual seats!!!etc nice video btw 😁

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks very much 👍🏻

[@Hahlen]

Maybe they can convert all of these coaches into night jets lol

[@Fan652w]

Sounds like a good idea. Given the enormous pressures on capacity caused by the 1095 Euros a year Klima Ticket Austria desperately needs for its daytime longer distance trains double-deck trains with WIDE level boarding doors to ensure that stop dwell times are not excessive.

[@martinc.720]

Or trash. And order proper ones.

[@sakura2646]

Nice! I l personally loved the old model!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Me too, could you tell? 😂

[@sakura2646]

@@NonstopEurotrip Ya 😂

[@marcinmarket8709]

Business class can be described as a bad joke. The seats in first class are average, and in second class they are a total mess. The first generation railjet is much better

[@b34m270]

Some of those new features are clearly copied from Westbahn even if in some cases (as with the gendered toilets) they shouldn't

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Absolutely!!

[@Michael64425]

I always loved travelling on the Railjet trains compared to my home in the UK,I hope they are not letting their standards drop which your video seems to show.Hope someone is listening.❤

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I hope so too but idk what they could do tbh

[@joe1999_1]

I was in Innsbruck 14 or 15 years ago and wow. I don't remember that much of the main station

[@dernichtberliner7977]

The ÖBB used the replace old stuff with new worse stuff a lot. Just look at the Wiener Schnellbahn... every day at least 5 broken doors in the new trains. They are just unreliable as hell and have less standing capacity as well as beeing horribly ventilated because of the AC.

[@maxart3392]

Unlike the other reviewers you made a honest report: the train is actually a downgrade from previous version and it's starting to look like a regional train (just like the new double-decker Intercity in Germany). One low floor car per set would be quite enough. Business class is a joke and even the seats in 1st class became somehow bench-like. It looks like the whole layout is being ryanaired. I'd suspect that they are silently planning to introduce a more stylish and comfortable train in the future, introducing a new brand like "Super Rail Jet" to charge more for it. Just my 2 cents. And I agree 100% with "why fix if it ain't broken".

[@NonstopEurotrip]

100 per cent agree 💯👍🏻

[@SilentdragonDe]

The most comfortable train seats I've ever experienced were the old bench style seats, so if they are anywhere near that good I don't mind it. I have my doubts though, sadly.

[@bengtbeier]

Fun fact: original business class on Eurocity trains was in compartments. When ÖBB introduced the first generation of Railjets, they were heavily criticised for changing business class seating to open plan. Now they changed it back to compartments... And its the one thing people seem to hate most about the train. I guess whichever way they would do it, itd be the wrong way. 😅

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I quite liked them tbh 😀

[@uncipaws7643]

Innsbruck Hbf doesn't just have a lounge (restricted access) but also a decent waiting room (with comfortable seating and electric plugs) as I didn't find it in any other ÖBB station where you usually just have some seats in the middle of the hall with much more disturbances. As for the new railjet, I still have to try it. It's not operating on my main routes (which would be Wien to Graz/Villach/Venezia).

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Interesting!

[@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo]

I love the new Railjet, but the first class is awful

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Amen 🙌🏻

[@Nadia1989]

I still don't get the gendered toilets, is double cleaning for the employees. Stadler trains have them too.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly!!!

[@speedstar1983]

The business class and the restaurant are the only reasons why I currently choose the train when I travel from Bregenz to Vienna. If that doesn't happen, I change planes. It's about the same price but doesn't take half as long.

[@ex101jc]

tell me, how many planes are going from Bregenz to Vienna? Ahh right, you first have to get over to Altenrhein in Switzerland and find one of the few planes. I just came from a NIghtJet train from Bregenz to Vienna. Only 25€ surcharge with a Klimaticket :)

[@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo]

Lovely video, subscribed. Sorry for disturbing saying the same, Nonstop

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks for the sub!

[@ignaciotorovillacura6342]

My country to make trains more accessible decided to raise up all platforms so now there's no steps except of few stations where there's ramps to enter the train. I'm kinda curious why Europe decided to lower down the trains floor instead.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Because there's like 20,000 stations

[@martinc.720]

Person who cannot do steps: "How do I get to the vending machines now?" OBB: "Simply ask your travel companion to get something for you." "No Wolfgang. Me being unable to do steps does not mean I travel with someone, or that I want people to do things for me."

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly my point 👍🏻

[@ex101jc]

well in the past with the old railjets if you could not do steps you required assistance either way.

[@regmount4734]

This new RailJet is good upgrade on this line, but cant compete with the old version on other lines. I have same opinion as you, pointless gender toilets, Bussiness class is just first class in compartment and stairs everywhere, they could use same technology like Stadler in Giruno on leveling. Btw I hope you will do review on the new ComfortJets in Czechia.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly my thoughts, yes. Of course I'll try the comfort jet even it launches 👍🏻😎

[@user-munm]

Pierce Brosnan (SPAR premium) would say: _There's only one, the original!_

[@2liakada]

I priortize car now after all the delayed train experiences with awful OBB. I now travel by train only if there's no connecting train I've to reach. First you pay for a seat reservation in your connecting train, then you'll miss it and all you've paid for is standing in an overbooked train. OBB doesn't deliver in everyday usage, it's more of an marketing company that doesn't care much of the people who use it.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Seems strange

[@wojwesoly]

8:48 gotta flex the amex platinum lol

[@NonstopEurotrip]

🙈🙈🙈

[@trainspotting42]

I remember when I when I travel with the same locomotive on the route ec 83 from Munich hbf to Verona and passed from all the stations that you include in this amazing video. Great job! 👍

[@NonstopEurotrip]

That's cool!

[@UnterwegsinOesterreichundEU]

Hello Nonstop Eurotrip You video was very good. I took the train often between Kufstein and Innsbruck and returning to Vienna. I really like the Seats in 1st class. In my opinion the Railjet 2 is good. Yes of course the toilets are the same, but in Austria it is desired that there are separate toilets, the ÖBB has caught up with what other companies ( like Westbahn- Private Operator) have already introduced 5-8 years ago. I have to say the new possibility with low floor and then the small stairs up ( you can us the help groove) is better than 1 Meter in a door up. You need stairs otherwise how should it work🤷🏽‍♂️ The low floor is now better for older people or disabled persons The Problems I ( or should I say WE understand, too) No Garbage box is bad The Business Class is on the train not worth. We as related to the ÖBB we also didn't like it. What should I we can't change These 2 things now, but we are not alone. Other ÖBB staff complaint, too.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks for your comments 🙏🏻😊

[@Xavieralex83]

Hello nice video!!! I agree with the business class it's very down , but for the step inside, in France its the same issue with ours double deck trains, plateform is full accessible but some steps for the rooms ,

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks for sharing!

[@_autom]

departing station may indeed be not as aesthetically pleasing but i would commend one aspect of it upon entry: the abundabce of natural light flooding the interior! but would also have to agree with you on the less desirable elements of this new train set, particularly the less accessible layout, claustrophobic seating and the time-warp induced gendered loos (what year are we??) look forward to your ICE marathon ; )

[@1258-Eckhart]

I shall be taking exactly this train tomorrow (in the opposite direction), so thanks for the tour. I have travelled business class in the old Railjet and found it extremely underwhelming - I even gave up on it, and reseated myself into the first class. I find the first class on the Railjet not nearly so comfortable as in an ICE. The seats are hard and boxy (not the case on an ICE) and the whole gives the impression of having been designed primarily for ease of cleaning. I dislike the plastic seat covering (the second class moquette is pleasanter) and the predominance of hard plastic surfaces. Compared with the excellent TGV first class (that's how to do it), the Railjet gives the impression of our old German "Silberlinge", the so-called "n-Wagen" or "Holzklasse" of the 1960's.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

How did you find it?

[@1258-Eckhart]

@@NonstopEurotrip It was the EC to Venice, which I stayed in until Innsbruck. The stock was the pre-Railjet Austrian IC-stock. I was in a 1st Class compartment which was very quiet, had softly sprung leather upholstery, good airconditioning and lots of space (four seats in the compartment). I can't tell you how much better this feels than a Railjet. My onward journey from Innsbruck took me by Railjet Mk. 1 to Buchs SG: There I lost my connection because the Railjet (RJX 162) was 25 minutes down. The 1st Class non-compartment carriage was very full, pretty uncomfortable in a Ryanair sort of way, and cramped. I ordered a meal to my seat, which was very good and recommendable (Faschierte Laibchen with a glass of Zweigelt). Conclusion: ÖBB, give us the IC carriages back!

[@zakelwe]

It might be me but I cannot see the link to the menu in the description ! Good video as always though. All the best.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Updated 🙂

[@Jako-wm7np]

Hey, nice video. As for the train itself, I generally think it's great and I even find the seats very comfortable. The business class thing was clearly a misstep, there's no denying that. Fortunately, you can exchange seats, said one of the ÖBB once. Accessibility is a difficult issue, I think they should have done it like with the new Nightjets, with all cars generally having steps at the doors and one car with barrier-free doors. Personally, it doesn't bother me the way it is now, as I rarely move through the entire train. The thing about the gender-segregated toilets is pretty unnecessary, but it doesn't bother you, does it? (Of course no one on the train pays attention to it anyway xd)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Fair points 😂

[@slavakaza]

I totally agree with your points (especially about the business class). However the comparison shouldn't be between the old and the new Railjet, but between the old EC trains and this new Railjet. After all it is replacing those trains and not the Railjets. In that case some points are still true, but the trains have Wifi now and finally some food (again) which was a big pain in the last years on the EC lines. Considering that the old 1st class only consisted of compartment coaches (however with 4 compartments of the ex businness class) it is a slight improvement that there's more choice for comfort oriented travellers. In fact the old EC trains were booked out completely in summer and I guess with the supplement for Business there will be more spontanously reserveable seats available for 1st class ticket holders. With the Business class: I hope the same will happen as with the Business class on ÖBB-IC/EC-trains.... it died... and became a normal first class. Maybe it's their plan and they are just trying out if people are okay to pay extra to sit in a compartment.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I prefer the old EC trains 😂

[@HolgerSeipelt]

Good luck with your plans to travel to 10 German cities within 24 hours. With the observed average delay of the ICE's during the last few days you can be happy if you achieve 5 or 7 cities. 😊

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Fingers crossed! 🤞🏻🍀

[@antoniodemunari3335]

I see them pass trough my city in italy. Hopefully this summer i am going to be able to try them

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Have fun!!

[@DavTec1]

I work with them and it's a crazy ride always with too much technology that's not working as wished. The Night train is another issue too... I got accidentally burned by hot water 85 degrees hot!!! Crazy 😢

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😢😢😢

[@paddybm3245]

Fun Fact: this was planned to be marketed as an InterCity initially. With 200 km/h maximum. Maybe that would have made more sense considering them not committing to a real business class here.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Never heard that before

[@ozsimflyer]

Yes, in the main, you’re being over critical. Only point I really agree with is the lack of value on Business Class.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Fair enough!

[@luke211286]

Like what I've seen on some other train channels, it's quite a disappointment. But when you come think that it is currently a replacement of the old EC trains serving Northern Italy to Bavaria via Innsbruck, then it is an upgrade. And I agree, the €15 business class addition should be avoided

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I prefer the old trains tbh, much better dining car and better seats imo 😁

[@Franjo5000]

​@@NonstopEurotripWell the old EuroCity trains on the Brennerbahn don't have a Restaurant car anymore because during COVID they weren't allowed to operate them in Italy. So ÖBB just not used them and let them sit on a track for 2 years and then were surprised that they are not working perfect anymore...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

@@Franjo5000 I knew it would be Italy's fault 😆

[@Franjo5000]

@@NonstopEurotrip Only that they weren't there during the Covid years. Other then that clearly ÖBBs fault.

[@denizleventyuruyen4774]

I am agree wi5h you 5he buisness Glas on the x2ndxRJ Generation is a absoluty downgrade in 5he oposite of the BC of 5he 1st RJ Generation. I 5hink 5h3 best train in Europe at the Moment isthe trainitalia freccarossa Exekution clans in the freccarossa 1000 series

[@DS.J]

I took this train from Munich to Verona a couple of weeks ago and was actually very impressed with it. So I would somewhat disagree that it's not great, because I think it really is. Certainly one of the best train services I've been onto, and I've been to most of the best train services in Europe and Asia. One thing that I was especially impressed with on this train was the food and reasonable prices, for a train at least. While I do agree with issues like steps in the interior of the train and gendered toilets (that one IS weird, I agree), those aren't really a big deal. The reality is that hardly any trains in Europe offer real step-free accessibility. From what I know, more or less the only country in the world that has that in all stations on its new HSR system, thanks to standardized ~1.1m high platforms. Also, perhaps Japan and Taiwan? Therefore pointing out steps inside the train as a limiting factor for accessibility in this, or any other European train, in my view, isn't completely fair in that regard. One thing that I really agree with and what really surprised me in a negative way was the rather poor seat ergonomics in 1st class. Seats are HUGE, well padded, legroom is massive, materials are very high quality and everything would be great, except the fact that those seats aren't designed with ergonomics in mind and after a longer journey my back started hurting a little bit, which was really something I did not expect! I really wonder what were the designers of those seats thinking? Did they just believe that ergonomics don't matter? As for Business class, I was also surprised, because I actually wanted to book it and couldn't find the Single seat in the seat map. Took me some time to realise that they were not available on the new trains. Still, all in all, I think this is a great train and it is "that good" since it is, after all, one of the best trains in Europe, only coming second or third after the likes of Frecciarossa Executive or Italo Salotto class which are rather extreme and perhaps even unnecessarily luxurious as far as train classes in Europe go.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I guess most of it is subjective 😉

I travelled with the new Railjet from München to Innsbruck in April in the Business Class and was disappointed about it.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I agree!

[@ceemichel]

I think that the new Nightjet sets were the main focus of the new design

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly, and unfortunately it's failed with the RJs

[@sqrtof81]

I agree with you on several points, but as an Austrian, I do still prefer the new Railjet over the old. I love the brighter, warmer atmosphere and the new privacy features. Business class is an obvious let-down, but I much prefer the first class on the new Railjet to the old one! I also hate the gendered toilets - but at least that's only rather minor (unless you're non-binary I suppose).

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Fair points

[@jf6395]

it does seem odd that if accessibility was the end goal....why the stairs ???? and the seats look kinda thin and firm...otherwise it seems on the surface... minor quibbles...and i question your assessment about the paper trash bags being environmentally unfriendly ....as the bins often are lined with plastic bags...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

The old bins weren't lined at all and why didn't they just make thing better?

[@heikozysk233]

@@NonstopEurotrip I find bags the cleaner and possible also cheaper option as no cleaning of hundreds of bins is required day after day. I assume that the environmental impact of paper bags is small compared to manufacturing bins and for using detergents etc. The Nordics have been using bags instead of bins for ages.

[@danielslovacek2101]

While Business class certainly is a disaster, I like the new First class seats more that the old ones - the old ones, although wide, are quite hard, and I therefore don't find them comfortable

[@rezaalan3991]

Great trip. I must say bring back Old Business Class Seat. And that plenty steps.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Oh yes! 😊

[@SilverWave64]

"Not that good" because of a few minor things. Yes, you ARE being overly critical. The main goal was to make it more accessible, and to have more capacity. Big doors and level entry also make it easier and faster to enter and leave the train, resulting in better punctuality.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I'm afraid most other people are on my point of view

[@SilverWave64]

@@NonstopEurotrip No, they're not.

[@heinerle456]

@@NonstopEurotrip No, not at all! Of course, I wouldn't choose the Business Class for an extra fee. However, this price category is generally underutilized. This was also the case with the older ÖBB first-class cars (Amz), some of which are still in service with RegioJet or other railway companies, and are highly commended for their comfort.

[@meantares]

Steps inside are a no-go.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly 💯

[@alecmortensen6252]

Yes I love this idea why haven't we in Denmark take note this goes for Germany too very nice for kids and they are distracted for a few minutes

[@Del-Lebo]

I agree on every point you made! Well done sir!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you kindly!

[@martinstilton1535]

Took this very train yesterday from Wörgl to Munich in first class! I agree with you about the business class, a very poor offering compared to the older ones and not worth it. Having tested the Railjet 1 many times in all classes I'd say the new first class seats are more comfortable than the originals in my opinion. I didn't walk through the train so I didn't really notice all the steps. The old EuroCity coaches, much as I love them, are now getting very dated so definitely an upgrade.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I just found them less padded and more claustrophobic with the encased headrests

[@gerd5604DE]

„Senk ju vor träwelling vis OEBB“😂

[@SilverWave64]

How did you add this many subtitles?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I have a guy that does it for me

[@AndreiTupolev]

I expect the 🚻 are 🚹 or 🚺 in an endeavour to cut down on the perennial complaints about splashing 🚿 and/or lifting or not lifting the seat. But what about the non-binary?! This is blatant segregation! 😂

[@NonstopEurotrip]

No one pays attention to the signs anyway

[@brentonpoole4741]

Being an Australian, when I travel to Europe I have a larger (heavy) suitcase, as we normally holiday for 2 to 4 weeks at a time. I hate the entry of trains up many steep steps. So I much prefer the level boarding. Steps inside are easier when you don’t have a suitcase. Also I love looking at the outside views, and think the headrest sides on the seat would obstruct that view?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Fair point. And her the headrest is intrusive

[@stuartparks8094]

Are the headrests as bad as they look? It looks like you need to lean forward to look out of the window

[@NonstopEurotrip]

They really are!

[@Hadubrand1965]

I travelled a few times in business class on the "old" RJ-sets. This was really a special experience. But the "new" BC is just a joke. I am not even sure the new 1st class is worth the price (ok, it is likely to be less crowded, but if 2 persons are travelling together (and reserve seats in advance), 2nd class will do. Biggest disappointment is the further dowinsizing of the "buffet-compartment" (you could not call this a dining car even on the old RJ). - On a full train "service to the table" never works, because the 2 members of staff cannot manage to serve all requests, but with hardly any seats in that thing, this is going to be a most unpleasant experience. The new RJ is, what in German language is known as a "Verschlimmbesserung" (roughtly translating to "improvement by making it worse...")

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Absolutely agree!!! 💯

[@khaktus]

I would not focus so much on the business and first classes - rather the second one where "the regular humans" travel and have to suffer most often. E.g. the seats in 2nd class in your video look much more stern and narrow than on the old railjets - which is another bad point. The old railjet trains were far from perfect as such ... - try traveling for 8 hours on an even half-empty train - and try to find different positions to sit - quite problematic, especially when you want to rest against the train wall or window - toilets look great on a new set, but I now see regularly just a decade-old railjets, where all the toilets are broken and closed, front-to-end of the whole train set! (Some inherent design issue?) Missing soaps, toilet papers ... as if this was a Balkan or Eastern European service. - the old railjets have chronically bad electricity sockets - after a few years of service, the plugs just don't hold in them and fall out. The only good design feature was that they were in between the seats - something so many wagon producers can't get decent. - omnipresent foot rests, which I used to adore, disappeared from the old railjets at certain moment. How soon will it be the case with these ones? Or is it now just the business class feat? - how is the train information system? I remember they were quite buggy recently - did OEBB work on this feet? + a good point in railjets was that the overhead luggage storage could hold quite a huge mountaineering luggage (with so many other companies' wagons misdesigned as pointlessly small). How does the new railjet rate in this regard? + old railjets had quite huge luggage storage spaces at the end and particularly in the middle of the wagon. How is it in this one? I don't care about the high-tech locking mechanism for the business class, really. :D Decent luggage space makes the travel on notoriously overcrowded trans-Austrian routes a bit more pleasant. - the Austrian and German old intercity wagons had a chronic problem with almost no mobile signal reception inside, Railjets used to be just a tiny bit better. I wonder how good/bad are these ones really. - the food in OEBB diners (DoN company) is notoriously basic, but significantly overpriced - even for the on-board category. What's the least comprehensible for me, why OEBB purchases new train sets of such a dubious quality, if they have one of the most aggressive price policies in Europe (that does not match the provided service or the improvements). The wondrous cheap tickets are actually rarely available, if you don't plan your super-short trip (that could be covered by regional services indeed) half a year ahead. Shortly before the departure date, the OEBB tickets go over the roof, even beyond the "market price". It's more a matter of "just because they can". They have been already heavily criticized for this. One can buy the tickets for the same international route, for the same train, from other rail companies (DB in this case, but could be also CD, ZSSK and others) for half or even thrid of the OEBB price. OEBB policy seems to be a form of robbery - but the resulting service does not correspond to it. Let's not go into the topic of their regular extensive delays ;)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

So you're staying I'm not a regular human?

[@homobohemicus]

Sorry, I've missed the Amex card number on the front side... and can you show us the design of the rear side as well? 😁💸 Great videos by the way.. See you in CZ soon... the new ČD ComfortJet are officially running from This week...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😅😅😅

[@ReyOfLight]

It's a case of choose your pain, you'll either have level boarding with a lot of steps inside the train (has to be done due to the boggies of the train), or you won't have level boarding which means a lift is always required to get wheelchairs on and off the train, but you won't have steps inside. I honestly don't know which is better or worse, and I'm an ambulatory wheelchair user... As for the gendered toilets, I personally appreciate it, especially if people adhere to it and don't use the "wrong" one out of convenience. Men do have a tendency to spray like a punctured garden hose when they stand up to pee, and many men insist on standing to pee even in a public restroom, even on a moving train. As a woman, I prefer the restroom to not have pools of piss on the toilet seat and floor, and having piss all over the place is less likely to happen in the ladies restroom than in a non gendered restroom. If people would just sit down to pee, and actually leave the restroom in the same condition as they'd like to see it themselves when taking a call from nature, I wouldn't have any issues with non gendered restrooms anywhere. But as it is, I do not generally like public restrooms that aren't gender divided. The seats on this train look absolutely awful, I've seen pews in old churches with better ergonomics... My butt and spine was crying in agony as I was watching the video from the comfort of my own bed with a heating pad under my lower back. The seats could have been good had they only been less boxy and actually had some positioning support for the passengers. The business class compartment looked like a scam with that little leg space! The only reason anyone should ever use Business class on this train would be if 2 people are traveling together and have a whole compartment to themselves to have a more private space so they can discuss business stuff or whatever in private, without disturbing other passengers around them.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I agree. Shame they couldn't have made the interior as accessible as the exterior. Moving around the train in the move was hard enough for me, let alone people who are less mobile, and impossible for wheelchair users

[@stephanweinberger]

I agree with the problems with the layout. Personally I'd have only done 2 or at most 3 low-floor cars, so there would be less stairs throughout the train. Especially putting the dining car in a low floor section is completely pointless, as it's not reachable from the rest of the train without climbing stairs anyways. Also putting the bicycle/ski space upstairs (and around a tight corner from the entrance) is just weird (here I would have designed a proper luggage compartment in place of the accessible toilet, basically using the same wall parts). I also expect that the lack of waste bins will backfire, especially as these trainsets are intended for long distance routes and the staff is most certainly not going to remove full waste bags during the journey and/or stock up at the final destination (if they even have stock there, which I also highly doubt). So passengers will probably put them on the floor where some will inevitably spill their contents at the first tight curve. Granted the tiny "waste drawers" in the old generation Railjets are becoming increasingly gross (because they are quite cumbersome and labor-intensive to clean), but adding proper, easily accessible (and therefore easily maintainable) bins at least every couple of rows (eg. between the seatbacks of two 4-seat bays and/or integrated in the luggage racks) would have solved that elegantly.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Great points, well made 🙏🏻

[@joachimkrone9533]

How did you like the fact that once you pass the border to Germany the carriages do not have floor level access? I noticed that at a new train arriving in Munich main station. Billions in Euros for new trains in Germany and Austria but no aligned height of the platforms.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

They do...?

[@brentschmogbert]

The trick to the new business class is to buying all four seats. I went from Vienna to Munich for just 260 euros having the compartment for myself

[@NonstopEurotrip]

@@brentschmogbert funny, these trains don't run on that route.

[@trainsandmodelshungary]

Totally agree with u! I’d also add that a lot of people can’t stand the inshell “recline”, and even Cathay Pacific had to get rid of them after all the complaints. I honestly dunno what were ÖBB n Siemens thinking with these “premium” cabins. Did I see an EVA sticker?? 😍😍 go Taiwan!!!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I've been to Taiwan 😉

[@CoraVanLincolnius]

About the business class, I get overstimulated quickly for me these compartments are a lifesaver

[@RJX88]

Best review about the new railjet.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@Thatclimbingirl]

I hate how the new trains have steps inside it’s a real step back in terms of accessibility.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Absolutely 💯

[@b.k.4954]

My wife was adamant that gendered toilets are *not* pointless. She reports that many men have poor aim - which means that far too often she finds urine not only on the floor but splashed onto the seat, which she has to clean up before using the toilet. Hardly a pleasant experience!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

They're mainly pointless because people don't realise and/or no one pays attention to the signs anyway!

[@newcastleh]

Dear male fellow travellers. As for TOILETS, I want to believe that separate toilets for men and for women were designed intentionally separate. Unfortunately men tend to forget that a seat toilet is not a urinal, so men like to do the "job" standing, neglectfully, even if it is not a urinal. They tend to think like "why should I sit if I can do it standing?" And if by accident the seat is splashed, well, it is splashed. Who cares? However, women always have to sit, no question. So a big thumb up to the designer for being thoughtful enough and reserve a toilet for women. Someone in a comment says people ignore the sign anyway. That's a problem and huge disrespect. Likewise they ignore the fact that a seat toilet is not a unrinal.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

The gendered toilets are not adhered too

[@elitemoderntvman]

What the heck is that goofy ahh vectron cab car 😭💀

[@NonstopEurotrip]

If you watched the video, you'd know.

[@brooks9661]

If I were part of Obb I would make it easy for passengers to give their complaints and order changes to the new trains design

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Absolutely!

[@szymex22]

How the mighty has fallen. lol. It has nice new features but many downgrades.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly 💯

[@nachbarslumpi7093]

I’ve done all the way from Munich to Bologna and I ve been disappointed about the short space between the seats, in first class. I really asked myself why I’ve I chosen the first class when I don’t get the space for my 1,90 m body. Next time I’ll leave the train at the first possible stop in Italy to change to a frecciarossa service. It’s much better and more comfortable.

[@superbear9569]

🎤Oh, Babyyy 🎶🎶

[@alexnefi]

Not too bothered about business class, never used it anyway. I honestly despised the second class seating in the old railjet, the fact that these come with a recline function is already an upgrade to me. Also, I ran into the pointy armrests of the first railjet multiple times and it is very painful.

[@KL53986]

Railjet 2.0. seems ot be a bit of a letdown. It will be tough to beat Original Railjet.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Completely agree 💯

[@KL53986]

@@NonstopEurotrip Also the original Railjet looks much better with Taurus front, The Vectron design isnt bad at all but isnt as stylish and smooth as good ol Taurus or OBB 1216 is.

[@andydeakin7914]

Why do you think that providing everyone with a paper rubbish bag to take away with them is environmentally unfriendly?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Because there were none before. Just small at seat bins and a main one in the vestibules

[@ex101jc]

@@NonstopEurotrip well and they were not exactly hygienic. Personally as I did on WESTbahn trains doing the same I just would put the trash in the next wastebin that is put somewhere on the train. Maybe a way to nudge passengers to create less waste?

[@petemiller8289]

A suggestion for you - I was at Bratislava Hlavna Stanica a few days ago and I noticed a railjet train heading for Zurich along side our train. That looks like an interesting Journey! Great video by the way.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes! If I do it I'll probably do the full Zurich to Budapest trip 🙂

[@petemiller8289]

@@NonstopEurotrip The one I mentioned appears to be Bratislava, Vienna, Zurich

[@budapestkeletistationvoices]

Your German pronounciation isn't so great

[@NonstopEurotrip]

You should hear my Hungarian 😂

[@budapestkeletistationvoices]

@@NonstopEurotrip put a link here and I will analyse it 😂

[@TravelbyRails]

The train is a big downgrade to the old Railjets

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly this ☝🏻

[@sharonpapkin8574]

The most beautiful city in Austria no doubt, and I really like the train station it's small and you have all you need

[@AndreiTupolev]

A compartment (as long as you have it to yourself) is great for quietness and privacy, but I'm not sure whether that's worth €15 extra. That awkward arrangement with the internal steps is rather like the ICNG in the Netherlands which reviewers seem to rave about, only there you also have the additional fun of lots of internal doors to fight your way through as well

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Well, obviously. I had the whole coach to myself anyway 😂

[@colinriley123]

so if you are a woman with a male baby, which toilet do you choose?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Either, because no one pays any attention to the genders

[@micashen]

Hi there! Halfway through the video, seeing the seats - no no for me. Looks hard, and the "Quiet Zone" sign is a put-off. Refurbishments won't happen anytime soon though.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly! The quite zone is just one carriage btw

[@hubertstaller7901]

Why the hell is there USB A??? This makes no sense….

[@NonstopEurotrip]

So people can charge their phones

[@eurocopter2fred]

In 2008 the first Railjets (Siemens Viaggio Taurus) arrived on the market, the next generation should essentially follow the same path and be based on the Nightjet 2 (Siemens Viaggio 2 Vectron?). But the Austrian Federal Railways ÖBB seems to be heading towards the same solution as the WestBahn with these KISS 3. for 2026. However, for the Easter holidays 2024, the first Railjet 2 units have arrived. The next generation Railjet was developed and built by Siemens Mobility Vienna and is based on the same platform used by the new Nightjet trains. ÖBB had initially ordered eight trains, but has now ordered an additional 19, for a total of 27 Next Generation Railjets without bringing in my opinion any real improvement in comfort, especially in business class for equipment that has been planned for the future Brenner tunnel of nearly 60 km... What about the 50 ÖBB 1216 TAURUS 3 locomotives manufactured in Munich which is a request of the ÖBB on the basis of the ES64F4 locomotive? Compatibility problems with the new pilot cars of the new Railjet and Nightjet designed to work with Vectron!!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Exactly, idk they've actually gone backwards in a lot of ways!

[@frenchhufflepuffie83]

I came to Innsbruck one day using the Nightjet service from Graz to Zürich! I arrived very early at the station and took a nap because I was in a full sitting compartment, so I hadn't slept much... I feel a bit frustrated that I couldn't see the incredible views from the train as it was still dark

[@NonstopEurotrip]

You'll have to come back 😜