THIS HIGHSPEED TRAIN WAS NEARLY SCRAPPED AFTER JUST 1 MONTH IN SERVICE / TRENITALIA ETR700 REVIEW

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Hello and welcome back to Italy, for an exciting video aboard a highspeed train that very nearly doesn't exist today!
Today we will be travelling in Business Class onboard one of Trenitalia's ill-fated ETR700 EMUs from Bologna to Pescara along the stunning Adriatic Coast. These trains used to be know as the Fyra V250 and were due to run highspeed services from Amsterdam to Brussels, but these ceased after just 39 days of operation due to many problems. I hope you enjoy the video!
Date of Filming: 9/9/21
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: Trenitalia
Departure: Bologna, Italy
Arrival: Pescara, Italy
Cost: Business Class - €41.90 (£36.26, $43.91)
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[@ce1834]

The legend of the Fyra is difficult to shake in the Netherlands haha, they tried to pin the blame on NS for running it at its *designed* speed and complained about the snow lol (that was without the corrosion and battery fires). Glad to see Hitachi are picking up the pieces from AnsaldoBreda!

[@willsen8908]

Those Ansaldo breda high speed trains are lucky to be running well, anothere high speed train that Ansaldo breda made was the DSB IC4 , which basically is hated by everyone in Denmark and has a nuts story that goes into goverment corruption. Anothere cazy thing about them is that ONE IS SITTING IN LYBIA which was suppose go to Denmark, its going to be fased out by 2024 or 2025

[@ce1834]

@@willsen8908 wow, guess the story everywhere is: 'buy cheap, buy twice' lol

[@NonstopEurotrip]

See my video 🤣

[@willsen8908]

@@NonstopEurotrip i have;)

[@jonathanj8303]

The final technical report on the Frya is amazing reading (I think it's linked on wikipedia). The trains were just SO bad, absolute junk, and dangerous too. And some of the issues are so basic, they even have steel welded directly to aluminium in the structure, which just means unavoidable corrosion problems. The IC4 is legendary too, the "best" thing about one in Libya is that Ansaldo-Breda actually claimed to have delivered it to Denmark when they knew it was in Libya all along (Gadhafi's birthday present) and tried to bill DSB for it, saying DSB must have somehow lost a whole train.

[@enricomonti156]

I was born in Bologna, and used the Adriatic railway many times. Basically now with the ETR 700s they have changed the Frecciabianca services into Frecciargento over there. Usually most services with ETR 700s run non stop between Bologna and Rimini, whilst I believe yours also called at Faenza Forlì and Cesena. And even in Riccione, which usually high speed trains skip during the off peak seasons (InterCity trains do stop there though)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

🙏🏻😁

[@Nathan-sc3pj]

As a Belgian I still get goosebumps whenever I hear Fyra or V250 hahaha

[@Maloenton-Agency]

Belgians and Dutch ... two peoples of incapable, drunkards and drug addicts. The only thing you can do is spend your days chewing drugs in the "cofee shops" 😂👍

[@gerric.5824]

A little note about the remark on trains punctuality at 18:42 - On average, about 90% of Trenitalia trains arrive at destination on time. In the last 30 days (June 11 to July 10) the average was 87.4%, possibly because of the increased summer traffic. Trenitalia "normal standards" is indeed pretty good...

[@alanwilliams2284]

"normal standards" is indeed pretty good... Take a look at punctuality redords for all trains in Japan. Many services 100% punctuality over very long periods of time.

[@mustangrt8866]

you mean the nicier frecciarossa and frecciaargento? the regionals almost never arrive on time and are a waste of money

[@wasmic5z]

@@alanwilliams2284 Japan also has much better infrastructure, because they have spent a ton of money on their railways. Trenitalia does not build the infrastructure. They only run the trains. Any place in the world could run services as punctual as in Japan, if the needed investments into infrastructure and rolling stock were made. But Italy doesn't have that sort of infrastructure, and therefore Trenitalia can't achieve that sort of punctuality. But most countries are not willing to spend so much money on ensuring punctuality.

[@luciliocogato9746]

​@@wasmic5z I't' not a matter of infrastructure. On the Tokaido high speed line between Tokyo and Osaka, built in 1964, japaneses are able to run one train every 4 minute with 100% punctuality. Torino-Milano-Roma-Napoli italian High speed line, built between 1977 and 2007 has the same technical characteristic as Tokaido line.

[@riccardopalladino6456]

@@mustangrt8866 actually the regional trains have far higher punctuality rates than high speed in Italy

[@michaelhall8586]

I’m so envious of such beautiful trains!

[@PerNonForza]

5:56 that Little shed between platform 11 and 10 is where I work 😁

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yay 🙌

[@TL98]

i just want to say some things: 1) the bologna centrale station is a monument in itself because of what happened here on august the 2nd, 1980 2) i hope that with the frecciarossa fleet getting bigger the ticket price on slower trainsets decreases even for the lowest class 3) seeing that you hopped off the train in pescara, i hope you had some time to have a sample of the abruzzi cuisine

[@NonstopEurotrip]

1) yes, absolutely! 2) me too! 3) of course 😊

[@rahill-95]

Great video as always and this train set exterior looks amazing and it does look comfortable too and I am quite happy too that this train sets found new home. 😎

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks mate 😃

[@charmed21may]

No refurbishment to the interior of this ETR700, the 3-class configuration will remail - Trenitalia is only rebranding all its high-speed trains under the Frecciarossa brand (the previous branding didn't make much sense anymore since all ETRs now operate both on dedicated high-speed and conventional lines) Also, I wanna add that a big problem of the ETR700 are the toilets: there are only 5 in this 8-coach train. The ETR700 was designed to run on shorter distances (Amsterdam-Brussels) so this would have been fine, but in Italy these trains mosly cover much longer distances - especially the Venice to Lecce service which covers almost 1000km in a little under 9 hours. Compare this with the ETR500s or the Frecciabianca services which have double the number of toilets.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you ☺️

[@scottyerkes1867]

Great video as always!! Comfy seats!! Nice amenities. Worth the business class fare. Lovely scenery too! Thanks Max.😀💚💚

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks Scott ☺️

[@scottyerkes1867]

@@NonstopEurotrip 💚💙

[@thetrainhunter]

Nice video man, super complete review!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@HumbertoMesa]

Riccione so nice neighbourhood around the station at least. Thanks for the trip 🇺🇾

[@kieranstravels]

I have to admit, these things look super unique. Great video.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Absolutely Kieran 🙂

[@antoniodimascio5340]

Thank you for sharing this video I enjoyed it and I Miss all the station I have been to in the past Bologna Centrale I been so many times Ancona and Cesena Rimini Pescara also and more south of Italy 🇮🇹 in Puglia

[@luisstransport]

Great trip report

[@NonstopEurotrip]

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[@manmeetsinghmahajan6183]

Amazing 👏

[@AkhmatProductions]

Great video bro!!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

🙏🏻

[@johnmehaffey9953]

I quite like the look of the train it reminds me of the Japanese bullet set, thank goodness companies are now looking out for the passengers comfort this is what you want and get from public ownership of the railways, take notice Britain, no railway system should be in private ownership

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Like italo in Italy 😂

[@FlexxenRandomPlaces]

The interior of this big dude looks so comfy!!! 😁

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Absolutely 🤗

[@ravenfeeder1892]

Great Adriatic views there!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Oh yes 😃

[@Topboy32]

Excellent journey, enjoyed travelling with you! I like the product, exteriors and interiors even though the bonnet looks odd. The front end of the train set reminds me of a SUV!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you Paul 😊

[@danielparrott8339]

These trains are designed by Pininfarina. The nose was a stylistic reference to the Hondekop electric units that used to run the Benelux services the ETR700 were intended for. Make no mistake- originally, they were terrible. This was partly because each train was custom built, with no clear standards for wiring etc. Also, there were numerous build quality problems. It is actually nice to see them sorted out and useful though. There is a UK saying "you can't polish a turd"- well unless it is an ETR700, in which case you can!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@louisebrislane6607]

The snout is shaped like that to go through tunnels. I listened to a designer from Japan talking about them & when a hi-speed train pops out of the tunnel it had issues but shaping the front like that stops the problem.

[@warplaneeditz2671]

Great vid, as always. You should also make a review on Greece's new ETR 470s. I know you just travelled there but it would be great to do a video.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Simply Railway has one coming up!

[@warplaneeditz2671]

Alright, thank you so much!

[@valentinoannunziata7210]

One of the most beautiful routes in italy is Genova - Roma, the train will show the italy’s west coast for a lot of time. Last time i went on that route was operated by frecciabianca

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Same for me, in 2019 🥰

[@valentinoannunziata7210]

@@NonstopEurotrip same year for me! October 2019.

[@sagardand3288]

Amazing video train journey volog

[@AndrewG1989]

The ETR700 high speed trains are the best trains that Italy has ever had. Beautiful trains they are.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

AGV for me 🙃

[@AndrewG1989]

@@NonstopEurotrip Nice

[@Techno-Universal]

It’s almost like a modern SUV mashed with a XPT like train in terms of the front end design! :)

[@emaildanielschmidt]

Great train! It shows what happens when (Dutch) politicians become train engineers and cancel the deal. It had it's fair share of problems but as we see in Italy it could definitely be solved. The succesor in the Netherlands of this train still has to go into service and it has lower specs. Great video and greetings from the Netherlands.

[@attenzioneallontanarsidall7940]

true!

[@patrickreuvekamp]

The problems certainly could have been resolved, but that would have taken a lot of time and money and we still have to wait and see how these trains perform in the long term. You also have to keep the issues with the DSB IC2 and IC4 in mind, which never have been resolved and never will be. All in all I think the NMBS and NS made the right decision at the time. (This was a combined Dutch/Belgian project.) It is also true that the train was not even the main issue with the whole project: they tried to replace a fully open and flexible intercity service with a high speed train with mandatory reservation, which would have been totally unsuitable for this line. (For people not acquainted with trains in the Netherlands and Belgium: mandatory reservation and airline style ticketing are not a thing on regular train services in both countries, with the exception of some high speed trains to other countries and maybe some night trains.)

[@SeverityOne]

It's not as simple as you make it out to be. Ansaldo and Breda may have made great trains in the past, but the V250 was just rubbish. Bits should not just fall off a train, not in the first month, not ever. No wonder everything was sold to Hitachi. Also note the six year gap between their being pulled from service in the Low Countries, and the start of services in Italy. It's not like they just changed the colour scheme and left it at that. The basic problem was that the Dutch railways, in their ambition to be more than a glorified tram system, put out a tender for a train that nobody wanted to build. A 300 km/h true high speed train was too expensive, and there was the Thalys already anyway. But 200 km/h was not fast enough, although nobody could really explain why not, given the small sizes of both the Netherlands and Belgium. There were no readily available platforms. This train would have to be designed and built from scratch. And AnsaldoBreda put in the lowest bid. The rest is history.

[@ce1834]

? these weren’t minor faults that could inspire confidence in the operator/passengers, the client is entitled to a train in service whose batteries don’t blow up/metal strips don’t come off/don’t corrode and doesn’t endanger passengers, this was a multi-million pound contract, that AnsaldoBreda could not fulfil

[@attenzioneallontanarsidall7940]

@@ce1834 reminds me of VW with cars!

[@kanchanananayakkara8959]

The long nose has given it an unique look and robust look! It reminds me about « Pato » from Renfe!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Worse, I think 😂

[@buzzukfiftythree]

Great video. As you say, not the most beautiful of trains. The 'bonnet' is definitely an acquired taste.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes 😂

[@vnse725]

I rode on the ETR700 last year (also in 1st class) and I found them of great comfort. Seats on Trenitalia's HSR are generally very good. I happened to travel on the route those Fyra originally intended to operate (AMS-Brussels) this year, and the coaches NS used are old and ill-maintained and needless to say, not comfortable at all.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Completely agree 😊

[@yasgamer]

Well yes, we should have gotten a good train on that route 10 years ago! Fortunately we are getting the ICNG (Coradia Stream) trains on the HSL-Zuid. Can't wait to ride in one

[@chakjhumrajunction]

Excelent 👍👍👍

[@giuseppealessandromariafin9434]

The ETR700 was just late, small structural problems were worsened because NS drivers did not follow the security instructions provided by AnsaldoBreda. When the easy-to-fix problems where actually fixed in Italy, ETR700s never gave trouble to Trenitalia and its customers. And I actually think it is quite a cute train.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

There's a different story whoever you speak to 🙃

[@Hastdupech8509]

Non parlerò dei dettagli tecnici e della vicenda perché ne so poco, ma carino quel treno? È osceno, ma d'altronde solo degli olandesi potevano concepire questo aborto estetico

[@demoniack81]

@@Hastdupech8509 THANK YOU, I was literally going insane reading all these comments calling this train beautiful. It is quite possibly THE ugliest train I've ever fucking seen. I can't believe that Pininfarina designed that abomination of a front end.

[@Hastdupech8509]

@@demoniack81 fr, I mean, I see them all the time when I commute together with Trenitalia's newer Rock's and I hated them with passion, but now I love the Rock but I still hate the ETR700. How long will it take me to at least accept it as a HS train, together with ETR500, ETR600 and ETR1000? An eternity? We'll see

[@StelyannIvan]

Beautiful video like

[@sagardand3288]

Nice looking

[@bobjennings6673]

Ignore the Bonnet? Never. I love it!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😂😂😂

[@playerscobongameplay]

I remember seen it when i went at venire or passing on railway near my old school

[@rezaalan3991]

Great trip. To be honest, it will be good if the couplers can be hiding when it isn't needed + cover on it. With the new livery in the future, I think they should rebranding Frecciaregento into Frecciarossa lite.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks! I think they just want the brand more cohesive. And I agree tbh.

[@bogdanfratini9858]

The seating places are 500; 546 were in Benelux service, before they enter in service with Trenitalia they were revised also in layout

[@UrbanTransportEtc]

There are actually 3 classes on Trenitalia's etr700: business, standard and premium, which is the one you identified as "dining car", with red headrests. The same 3 levels will be offered once the trains serve as Frecciarossa (starting in December)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

When I booked, it was only possible to book standard or business class

[@UrbanTransportEtc]

@@NonstopEurotrip that's weird. Premium was probably blocked out because of some issues (like a prospected change of rolling stock) or because it was fully booked. It is the class were railway staff and their families travel for a small fee as well as the class most commonly offered to groups

[@petrsovicka]

Great clip! The train also looks great but what the hell is that noise! It seems to me much more intense than in case of any other comparable train I can imagine. I'm afraid it could drive me mad on a longer journey...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😂 yeah

[@ye6207]

A parliamentary inquiry came to the conclusion that AnsaldoBreda was only partially the blame for the failed project. Mismanagement by the Dutch and Belgian railways are the main cause for the projects failure. The railway companies knew that these were new trains and needed proper testing but still they rushed them from the factory. The manufacturer is to blame for the high number of defects and should not have delivered them. As of today, the connection between Brussels and Amsterdam is only marginally improved.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It's a shame as they work well now!

[@ageoflove1980]

Oh they tested them, and they failed miserably. It was really painfull to see the trains just parked outside Amsterdam Central station, completely unusable. The excuse that the Dutch weather wasnt something they, as Italians, considered was quite ridiculous. It is true that the cooperation of the Dutch and Belgum railways could have been alot better, but that had more to do with the construction of the high speed track instead of the trains, since they had nothing to do with the manufacturing as customers obviously. The high speed line is fine in The Netherlands and the stretch between Amsterdam and the Belgium border near Antwerp. This is of course shown by the Thalys service that uses the same track as these trains would have, and run up to 300 km/h. The part from Antwerp to Brussels is just super slow. Great that Hitatchi stepped in to clean up the mess though.

[@pietrodicarlo4663]

When is the video taken? I live in Pescara therefore I usually take this train on the Adriatic cost. I really enjoy this kind of trains because they are fast and a bit confortable.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

The filming date is in the description 🙏🏻

[@grzegorzgrzegorz5588]

Everybody hands up :)

[@eviv19]

The manufacturer Ansaldo Breda had to pay a fine to NS/NMBS if they resold those vehicles with the same design. That was a clause in the take-back agreement.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

The endless saga of AnsaldoBreda 😂

[@travelineuropeoftrain8848]

It overreached my expectations!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 😊🙏🏻

[@FJJonker]

this was the train of the dutchrailway NS the v250 under the name FYRA but they are gone back to italy when there was many errors on this train so italy now have this trains toke over

[@NonstopEurotrip]

As stated in the video....

[@fecciargento5102]

Welcome to my hometown.😊 Here you can visit the house of the famous poet Gabriele D'Annunzio, enjoy the beach and the view of the mountains Majella e Gran Sasso to the west that form the so called skyline "Bella Addormentata" (Sleeping Beauty) because it looks like a woman lying on her back. What about these trains? Since Trenitalia payed very few money for them, they've been a bargain even if it took a lot of time to solve their numerous troubles. But I would've never payed them full price and i agree with Belgian and Dutch railways companies and their choice to cancel the contract. These trains and IC4 trainsets have been a national shame for Italian railway engineering that has always been one of the best and most innovative in the past.🤬

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Hello 👋🏻

[@deathtrvcker666pl2]

I am not surprised that they wanted to scrap when they saw this design inspired by Fiat Multipla.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes, too true 🤣

[@francescoboselli6033]

2:40 I know that someone call them "Multipla Trains" 😂

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Ikr 🤣

[@siem8254]

well who knows, the drivable Dumpster Fire Ansaldo-Breda called a train is operational again. It took them from 2013 till 2019 to make sure they didnt rust or catch fire again but he they did it. Hope the Italians are happy with them because we as the dutch surely dont want them back.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

🤣🤣🤣

[@tgveuroduplex4936]

How is it possibel to seat 546 passengers in a 200 meter train? - and its not a duplex/dosto train? The capacity is far greater than ETR 1000, ICE 3 and even bigger than TGV Euroduplex

[@NonstopEurotrip]

🤔🤔🤔

[@ilcavicchioli]

FYI Trenitalia is gradually phasing out the Frecciargento and Frecciabianca brands. As of now you can find the Fyra trains with both Frecciargento and new Frecciarossa liveries. The whole high-speed segment will become Frecciarossa, I guess because it's the most known out of the three when it comes to Italian high-speed rail

[@NonstopEurotrip]

As stated in the video 😉

[@alessandrof2421]

Yes, it's also a way to increase prives for the same service

[@barhat961]

All European countries best ,fast,modern trains in the world.

[@fgrion]

last month i took frecciarossa from florence to bologna. it was only a 45 mins journey, it was fast, smooth but you barely see anything because it's all tunnels. this high speed route looks far more scenic. you basically travel high speed next to the sea for hours and hours. how many countries have such great service?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

That's the most boring HSL in Italy 😂

[@luciliocogato9746]

You're right. Adriatic line is a very old infrastructure, built between 1850 and 1870 but is fast enough (180-200 Km/h) and a very scenic route. But you should tell it to some local politicians of Romagna, Marche and Abruzzo who are trying to convince italian government to spent many billions Euros to make a new line far from the shoreline and try in the thrash the existing infrastructure.. On the other end, betweeen Florence an Bologna it's all high mountains and there is no alternative: if you want a fast service you need long tunnels.

[@Rt747]

👍👍👍👍

[@dariodambrosio3042]

about the service levels, i don’t believe they will chance them with the rebranding, actually they're already closer to Frecciarossa ones than the Frecciargento classics (ETR 600 uses 1 st class and 2nd instead of Business and Premium, at the contrary used by Frecciarossa)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I don't think they need too tbh!

[@cicciopasticcio599]

Good video anyway Pescara has less then 130.000 inhnabitants

[@yasukiwi]

LOL I rode it recently Trieste to Milano Centrale in 1st class as a Frecciarossa service. It was ok but still not really up to standards of the real high speed trainsets ie 1000 and refurbed 500 series. Only got up to about 150-160 km/h max, hardly the definition of real high speed, and at that the vibration was noticeable. Even staff member I talked to admitted they're a sh*t trainset. Unfortunately for Trieste it seems they have the 700 series exclusively operating their Frecciarossa services. In three days in Trieste I didn't see any other high speed series trainset in at the platform. Disappointing as Mr Seat 61 had pointed out you can tell when booking on Trenitalia which trainset you'll get and mine had appeared when booking to be operated by a refurbed 500 series. I guess this comes under "subject to operational requirements".

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Ah sad, they never used to be used on that route! You should have had some 300kmh running between Milan and Brescia

[@yasukiwi]

​@@NonstopEurotrip Yeah having seen Simply Railway's more negative review of this train I got a sinking feeling when I saw the bonnet at the platform the evening I arrived in from Slovenia and Villa Opicina. Following couple of days took some local trains so was back at the station but never saw 500 or 1000 series there. Maybe it was just covering the route for sometime while the normal unit was out of service for maintenance etc. Also it ran quite late. And maybe because of that was even quite slow coming into Milano Cle. Maybe it did hit higher speeds but I was keeping an eye on it pretty regularly and I only saw 160km/h on the PID. We were almost an hour late arriving 😞 So sadly my experience on it was more similar to Simply Railway's. At least you had a positive experience 🙂

[@mr-anonym2225]

Hello, i wonder if you are going to make a Video about the TGV Train that Runs from Zurich-Paris

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Maybe one day!

[@k0k0m02008]

Great ride on a somewhat controversial trainset. Are they taking away the Frecciargento brand or just making a "class B" Frecciarossa 250km? Not clear. By the way, I stayed at that Mercure hotel depicted at the beginning of the video a couple of years ago, only because it was in front of the station and I could do trainspotting easily😂😂😂

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I've stayed there before too 😂

[@fecciargento5102]

They're taking away Frecciargento brand and reunite all high speed trainsets (250 and 300 kph) under Frecciarossa brand. However 250 kph trainsets don't have executive class, conference room and business private compartments.

[@k0k0m02008]

@@fecciargento5102 Thank you so much. I was not aware of that decision. Is Frecciabianca merging too?

[@francescoaiazzone]

@@k0k0m02008 Frecciabianca is basically turning into plain Intercity.

[@fecciargento5102]

@@k0k0m02008 no, they aren't

[@bonaz11]

that's what you get when you want high requirements for a low price and then try to put the blame on Ansaldo Breda. As you can see with more investments the train can operate without big problems. There's a proverb in italy that says: "who spend more, spend less"

[@NonstopEurotrip]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Maloenton-Agency]

ETR 700 New version "Frecciarossa" : kzbin.info/www/bejne/mampeo2CgbKcbKM

[@dazlebluefrogify]

nice trip to a beautiful part of italy not a fan of that "bonnet" ugly train great inside and i think the 10 euros extra for business worth the upgrade

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Absolutely 🤗

[@samtrak1204]

I see selfish passengers leave luggage in the aisle all over the world. That was one of our pet peeves at Amtrak.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

YES!!!! LOL

[@thomasfehlmann4680]

Wifi fast? No FAST is the name of the company providing this service. I was riding ETR 700 last year around the same time (August) but when I traveled to Ancona (May) and Parma (Sept) this year, all ETR 700 services were replaced by ordinary FrecciaRossa. I have no idea, why. I'll be back later in May 2023, going to Ancona with train 8807

[@NonstopEurotrip]

All frecciargento services are currently in the process of being rebranded as Frecciarossa

[@matteofinardi8987]

etr 600 will pass from 2 class to 3 class layout: business, premium and standard, etr 700 wil mantain 3 class layout: business, premium and standard.

[@PaulSmith-pl7fo]

Not a fan of the styling. I prefer the Red Arrow livery to that of the Silver Arrow (more Grey Arrow, really).

[@NonstopEurotrip]

They'll all be red soon 😂

[@Czechmate823]

Train Restaurants need to be reopened!

[@BarryBynum]

Hi from the USA! I appreciate the great content. I was curious if you are considering switching from captions to voice narration? Many have rail channels have made the leap. Almost all of the aviation channels have changed. I ask because you do some great photography and you have great information. I find myself annoyed that I miss all of the sights because I am concentrating on reading. If it was like the old silent movies where it was light reading, it would be okay. This video is a good example of a lot of "story" and the reading gets in the way of enjoying the video portion. Just a thought. :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks for the comment! I have toyed with the idea, however most of my predominantly non native English speaking audience prefer me to keep it as it is. Also as I'm away a lot it wouldn't be good quality audio, as I edit on the go, so unfortunately for the time being I'm gonna stick as is. Thanks for watching!

[@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt]

20:14 Here are some famous words said by Spaniards by centuries: "If you can't fight against the enemy (The sponsorships in this case), unite with them". So, I'm not gonna criticize sponsorships on this channel any more.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

You're the only one that has a problem with it Pedro 😂

[@agegroot5666]

Without that cold, very snowy winter that train would never be scrapped. There were problems with that train but other new trains had or have problems too,maby not as much as this train but that manufacturer never build high speed trains before. They were cheaper than high speed trains from other big experienced manufacturers...what could you expect from a newcomer?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

NS should have bought German or Swiss 😉

[@agegroot5666]

@@NonstopEurotrip _Don't know if Staedtler were an experienced high speed train manufacturer those days, decision by NS/NMBS was made so long ago. German and French trainbuilders are very experienced but their bid was too high so Anseldo Breda got the order. Now a high speed train is comming our way with a topspeed of 200km/h......

[@teocars9382]

Are you Italian?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

English 🙂

[@teocars9382]

@@NonstopEurotrip I thought you are italian, but I was wrong :)

[@samtrak1204]

The ride looks rather shaky. Was it? Yes, the big nose is alarming. Reminds me of Jimmy Durante.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

They're not the most comfortable, but still pretty good! Way better than the older Pendolino Frecciargentos.....

[@playerscobongameplay]

Pov: pensavi che era un frecciargento e che faceva servizio alta velocità Engl: pov: you thought was a frecciatgento and made service in high speed rail

[@Simgiov]

The Dutch failed big time on these trains. They bought the trains through a tender, realized they were not really what they needed for their network and then tried hard to cancel the contract stating the train was not safe, even if belgium and dutch railway safety agencies, NS, and third parties (even those contracted by the dutch) stated the train was fine. AnsaldoBreda even won in the courthouse.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I mean, it's not great to build each set uniquely though 😂

[@jonathanj8303]

No they didn't, almost none of that is even close to true. The trains were years late, plagued with faults from minor through to massively dangerous, and only ever ran in service under temporary exemptions. Ansaldo-Breda completely failed to meet the terms of the contract and tried to rip their customer off. And the court case they "won" in Italy was so blatantly corrupt it was ridiculous. FS bought up the trains dirt cheap, scrapped two already, and took years to make the rest workable. It might be a good deal for them, I don't know how intensively they schedule them or how many years service they expect, but NS and SNCB were 100% right to reject them and demand their money back.

[@MrCityfm]

Not true.It was the Belgian SNCB that pulled the plug first. These trains where in service for about a month. In this time: 3 trainsets had a fire, some lost parts, all had problems with loose doors, software, snow, water leaking, rusting axles. And no train was built the same. But the Belgians saw this coming, and have insurance for exactly this scenario. They even never accepted a trainset. The safety agencies revoke all permissions, and the third parties all concluded that these trainsets are unreliable, massively (possible lifethreatening) unsafe and that the electrical system has to be completely redone from scratch. And that would probably take 3-5 years. (it took Trenitalia even longer!) And even after that, the expected lifespan was no more than 20 years with skyrocketing maintenance costs.

[@grahamjarvie3461]

they look like a duckbill platypus

[@asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791]

Bad points for the robotic English voice. Please use voice actors with the local accent, Trenitalia.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Agree!

[@Maloenton-Agency]

They have changed the robotic voice of the announcements in the trains ..... Now the announcements in English, they have the voice of Benny Hills!

[@Alby_Torino]

...yeah, "structural problems"...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😆

[@intersezioni]

now the frustrated Dutch will come to tell the same old story about the former fyra trains. If there is anyone to blame, it is the incompetence of the Dutch railways The images speak for themselves!

[@partickdistel6580]

Funny. We Dutchies are waiting for proud Italians denying it's their fault for building incompetent trains.

[@intersezioni]

@@partickdistel6580 bla bla bla bla!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Now now 😆

[@StefanWithTrains3222]

@@intersezioni Have you ever seen what happend in the netherlands?

[@extremathule982]

@@partickdistel6580 .........The Dutchies luv Italians....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@linnapromise]

Regonale

[@NonstopEurotrip]

?

[@luciliocogato9746]

I don't find the frontal "hood" or other parts of this train "ugly". A part from the fact that first Shinkasen and TGV rolling stocks were "hooded" too, i think that Pininfarina with this train made, as always, a good job. In this case inspired himself to older dutch trains in order to "localize" the style, to harmonise it to urban and rural landscape, historical and aesthetic context of the Netherlands. To this remarkable attention payed to cultural context Pininfarina added the usual care and skill in combining planes and curved surface which were typical of this and other master italian coachbuilders. The result is that this train has personality and is more beautiful of most trains made by contemporary builders.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It's certainly unique 😅

[@lws7394]

A 2 years ago , in 2020, a dutch vlogger used the ETR700, 2 months in service. At several place he could see wiring not fuly tcked away behind panels. And there were sere speed problems at 130-160kmh. The train could nit use the high speed section between Milan and Bologna , but the regular line .... To be continued probably ... I must admit, that the interior and livery of ETR700 is a lot better than as Fyra , which was friggin' ugly !

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yeah, they didn't have the best start in life. But I'm happy they're all good now!

[@treinenliefde]

Honestly I think saying 'they had their problems in the past' is saying it very lightly, they were abysmal and had a lot of issues. Here are some of the issues encountered during test runs. All rides had software issues halting the trains mid journey, giving unknown error codes of telling the driver there were defects with parts THAT DIDN'T EXIST. In about a 1 in 5 of the rides the pcbs for the traction equipment burned out, limiting the available power to half. This actually was one of the issues that plagued the trains for two years during testing without any fix. Doors suddenly flying open due to the breaking of springs inside them, even at top speed (250kmh) Doors only being locked when driving around, so not when stationary (meaning that you can open the doors on the wrong side of the train and fall down on the tracks at stations) live 25 kilovolt cables lying lose on top of the cab ceiling and just falling down when removing the ceiling panels. Safety systems needing constant connections to the internet and forcing the train into an emergency stop when staying too long in a tunnel. Lights to indicate vacant toilets being too bright to read. Ooh and maintenance was an issue as well, the trains were a completely new design so all parts were custom made and wore down too quickly, lowering the life expecancy to only 15 years in service, and before they were in service it was decided that after those years they would be scrapped. Trenitalia has made this less of an issue by having two of the nineteen trains as parts donors. In the end the biggest problem was that the trains were custom made because that was what NS wanted, and Alsaldobreda was the only company that actually did this. Other companies adapted existing designs, but that wasnt allowed so NS was forced to choose these trains according to European tender rules. Im glad that these trains are now in service with trenitalia, but in all ways it made sense for NS to refuse delivery of these trains, the amount of issues with these trains were just too much to accept, even if they couldve been solved by extensive reworking of the trains. Nice video though! I hope to travel on them one day, only seen one of them driving in the Netherlands, but they did always look stunning.

[@intersezioni]

bla bla bla bla!

[@patrickreuvekamp]

Add to that that every trainset was built in a slightly different way, making maintenance very problematic.

[@treinenliefde]

@@patrickreuvekamp Oh yeh that as well! Its really bizarre how bad those trains were, also because AnsaldoBreda was once quite a good train builder.

[@demoniack81]

"Safety systems needing constant connections to the internet and forcing the train into an emergency stop when staying too long in a tunnel." I can't find any details on this but that just sounds like the ERTMS2 european standard... and it doesn't need "the internet", it needs a GSM-R signal. Of course it e-stops the train if it loses connection to the signalling system. Would you rather the train kept going without knowing what's in front and crashed into the next one? The rest of it just sounds like teething problems. The doors and power electronics were probably poorly designed and needed to be replaced... hardly a reason to scrap an entire train. "Lights to indicate vacant toilets being too bright to read." Seriously? We're listing _this_ as a major problem? lmao

[@yagi3925]

"Nearly scrapped after just one month in service": yes, and they should have scrapped it altogether, as it is just crap. I lived in Belgium when it was launched as Fyra between Brussels and Amsterdam. It was a complete disaster and a serious hazard for the safety of passengers. The Italians reintroduced it later on their own domestic network for reasons of national pride but passengers' safety is not about pride, it's about life and death. Never shall I take that rolling bullshit. Every single time I book with Trenitalia, I carefully make sure it's not going to be an ETR700. Anything but that rolling coffin.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Eeek. I've been on a few and have to say they're quite good 'Now' 😂

[@demoniack81]

lmao "reasons of national pride" Literally nobody in the general italian population knows what the fuck these trains are or cares about them in the slightest. I'd never even heard of them until I ended up on one and looked it up because I had never seen them and was flabbergasted by how ugly it was. But sure keep telling yourself we like to roll around in flying coffins if it makes you feel _national pride_ about rejecting these trains, I guess

[@aviano72]

That is such an ugly front 😄

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😂🙈

[@born1033]

It' s no true... Running without problem.. Only bla bla bla

[@shankewang5802]

Not bad but remember : their food maybe good, but... don't buy trains from Italy

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Amen 😂

[@giorgioframmenti5081]

yes but we have one of the fastest and quietest trains in the world, which operates in france and spain under iryo (Trenitalia company) and the first high speed train in the world. Maybe it is NS who has not been able to manage anything, of course it cannot be said that they had no problems but look now in Italy with a small investment how they go. It's easy to want a lot by paying little! 😀😁

[@judithbraun9760]

Well, most of the time this video is about vaccum cleaners ( i already got one) , cosmetic products (won't buy these) and insurances ( no, I don't need another one), interrupted by a nice train review wich is as well interrupted by another sponsor. This is a ridiculous overload of commercials which I won't be "enjoying" a second time.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

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