OG vs FALCONS - GROUP STAGE - EWC x RIYADH MASTERS 2024 DOTA 2

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OG vs FALCONS - GROUP STAGE - RIYADH MASTERS x Esports World Cup 2024 DOTA 2
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[@feyy-7991]

Every time I read comments, I don't know why how most of them are not playing in TI this year

[@shark_cyberblackman]

They are herald or guardian commentator

[@himking0]

Tbf for them, OG isn't going to play in TI as well 😂

[@azer66]

Love how the production even zoned out to player cams and thought the game was won when the backdoor kicked in 😂

[@Spongebob-tb7sr]

Im just here to read what all the experts have to say

[@Mac-ek8ug]

damn that game 1!! it's like seeing the old prime OG! 💪

[@PelawPenan]

Game 1 is likes as Old OG at Ti9 (snowball) Game 2 is likes as Old OG at Ti8(defense/comeback)

[@RosaSinens1s]

I remember how hype Falcon's fans was when Ammar picked Venge. Audience predictions 83% Falcon : 17% OG lul.

[@DirtyGoober-yp6vk]

i still don't know why core venge is meta, she literally doesn't scale she's way too soft and burstable especially for pos 3 of all things. there's so many better options i don't get it

[@R1ckyZer0]

What a stomp on game 1, never see them got stomps that hard. Fortunately we got fun game 2.

[@shadowsovereign4948]

OG obviously still knows how to throw down. If they could keep up this aggressive playstyle against other teams it would be just like the old OG, but I think they struggle to do it as consistently as the old team. Just for clarities sake I'm not trying to insult them, there's a lot of OG hate out there, I'm just trying to look at it objectively.

[@idl1228]

No no. You're making a good point. I think most people know OG still has it but they're so inconsistent with their draft it makes them look like total noobs sometimes. I guess that's why some of us fans get frustrated especially with Misha because we all know OG is better than that.

[@forte9910]

I feel like no one expects OG to win the tourney, but also no team wants to face them

[@himking0]

And now, they are in lower bracket lmao 😂

[@AboveHim]

That's right. No teams want to face them in airport XD

[@gabc.8846]

Reading the comments here is like seeing an average person teach a professional how things should be done 😂

[@tarfernan]

Timado's MK is a savage

[@banishedbr]

Malr1ne realised Primal is way better hero than SK

[@Desdex]

They should rework Morph like it used to where he can one shot a support... Now morph can't even do that to Crystal Maiden no more 😂

[@JetsNameoff]

no ty

[@bryanananda5162]

Bruh why timado Morp doens't kill falcon supp first instead hitting 2 big bois first xD

[@andreibig2]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="558">9:18</a> right side "what is going on ?!"

[@therealguy12378]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="422">7:02</a> that tree dance to mk ulti looks interesting It perfectly capture all Falcon heroes in the wukong circle. LOL, if it was me, i will just ulti on the spot

[@VinceHaroldLacambraBen2ng]

OG is slowly traumatizing anyone who faces them. Either they gonna get a normal DOTA game or getting beaten black and blue till they submit.

[@gravity00x]

that first game is in top 3 of my personal best games ever seen in terms of raw skill. and im not even an og fan. that timado monkeyking was out of this world.

[@AboveHim]

"Traumatizing" nice joke LMAO 😂

[@VinceHaroldLacambraBen2ng]

@@AboveHim I mean them traumatizing teams is kinda OG's main selling point right now. Last year in Dreamleague season 21, they traumatized EG, 9Pandas and Tundra. Resulting EG and Tundra got beaten in the first round and 9Pandas got swept at TI12. And cherry on top, EG disbanded their roster. If that ain't giving them trauma, I don't know what is.

[@AboveHim]

@@VinceHaroldLacambraBen2ng do you even know what trauma means? Lol

[@ngkokwei]

Game 2 so nice

[@redgamingbsehkstreamer2371]

No breaker item? Silver Edge?

[@zunnoorainrafi5985]

is this tournament helding in Saudi Arabia?

[@berrychai]

OG my man, timado has the biggest ball rn for real!

[@mjodyh]

Great series, reminder to never give Ammar and Malr1ne their comfort heroes again

[@hdrkstrdy9263]

Their comfort strats is picking double tanky hero tbh

[@leonegan2704]

​@@hdrkstrdy9263not every tanky heroes won the game my man. If only tanky heroes have higher chance to win the battle all pros will go for it. It is just experience and mastery of how they master at their own heroes.

[@sby0407]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="97">1:37</a> haven played for long. why monkey dissapear and suddenly appear again? i don t see he transformed to creep or tree

[@wandahofu]

mk use mischief, he transform into melee creep. u can see the radiant melee creep with red hp. that's mk

[@sby0407]

@@wandahofu damn not noticing that creep at the first time. thanks bro

[@bachhoangson]

Wtf, Venge pos 3, did Falcon sabotage game 1 on purpose ?

[@Arkaiss]

spoiler block

[@karikoskinen5983]

God bless you

[@Jerome_Yabut]

Its bo2 you dont need spoiler block

[@kramnave9401]

Spoiler block, your face

[@Arkaiss]

@@Jerome_Yabut dumbass

[@Arkaiss]

@@kramnave9401 dumbass

[@mijailmanuelfornarismorgun3316]

Alot of Sandking 's pick lately , i' d like dat👍👍

[@iv09shaikabdulkareem56]

That marline play was very noticeable

[@absolutevirtue]

Too much on Timado's shoulders in game 2, needed more carry potential across the team. Chen doesn't do anything against gyro after the early game, SK falls of hard late, especially with no aghs. Nyx has no burst potential on these heroes. Brew is an okay pickup but again Gyro just destroys these heroes.

[@Jigoku_No_Iru]

Agree, first good comment around here, maybe the only one.

[@owenfifield92]

if bzm goes aghs bkb that game is totally different, sooo much time spent by cores in his sandstorm

[@vasilias7987]

Wonder why on second game SK didnt go Aghs Isnt Aghs like a must have item on SK right now? Sure it is random spikes but if it connects it is still deadly

[@man6taztv964]

It wont hit now, chance is so low. 4.2k gold useless item

[@urekmazino5125]

ive only seen it work well if the sand storm area is small

[@vasilias7987]

@@man6taztv964 ah true, sandstorm is pretty huge now and facet is optional between left and right

[@vasilias7987]

@@urekmazino5125 so basically nerfed to ground or it is still work?

[@anginribut123]

@@vasilias7987 yes

[@fabrhel]

Timado + 4 supports

[@socrates1796]

good luck to any physical carry fighting timber and primal in late game, they just basically immortal

[@joezero23]

Nasty tanky buddies. OG could've won the game if they managed to hunt 2 supports of the falcon every clash. With BZMs initiation + Ari and Timado. But its Dota and Falcon know the play too. So still a good series matchup.

[@9one984]

@@joezero23 Feels like everytime bzm jump in he focused on the tanky core tho.

[@anjaymabar9725]

Bro i dont understand why would you dont buy aghs on sand king ?

[@Raicarus]

Era pipa o loto, pero así son las ratas infladas que le dan pantalla

[@natutv27]

too much nerfed

[@maunabesanika]

I heard that the aghs is no longer worth the cost because of the nerf, you would rather make anything else, many pro players would just get it for free from rosh or when it's super late like 70+ minutes

[@BHWBHW100]

Sure hope Falcon is holding up strategy for TI. Or else it's sad their prime only lasted half a year

[@zanjievinsmoke2694]

What is bloodstone giving to SK this patch?

[@cassandrafitydjx7462]

i think the spell lifesteal with his sandstorm

[@nashazzi8399]

Radius (spell range)

[@kanvaros4451]

throw rock for game !

[@Kirito_DualWielder]

Skitter getting carried as usual

[@justinebryanestrellado722]

casual hating on a prof player earning millions just by playing dota as usual

[@Kirito_DualWielder]

@@justinebryanestrellado722 casually glazing on a prof player earning millions just by playing dota as usual

[@lawrencelys1955]

Game 2 , last 3 clashes timado didn’t take the advantage of holding Ageis

[@Jinwoo-om8ek]

Im pretty sure falcons was ignoring him and went for the backlines, no?

[@lawrencelys1955]

@@Jinwoo-om8ek he should play around his team instead of looking into the target he couldn’t kill. Like cm.. no detection

[@barbasour]

errr... wrong channel upload bruh?

[@DMS707]

That faclons win though

[@lumpiaseller6874]

I love crit

[@Sphrix1]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="270">4:30</a> emenim

[@souderyabbas3732]

that Venge pick from Ammar is so weird

[@malasito90901amea]

Just like your mom

[@hardworkingjason]

Falcons literally got all their best heroes in the 2nd game, what the hell happened in the draft 😭

[@urekmazino5125]

OG did well, they were ahead early and mid but they didnt close the game early enough. SK falls off very hard late, and it doesnt help when ceb has higher net worth than wisper brew and just dies easily in the backlines

[@mochalatte5911]

At this rate Falcon are just pulling out the gaimin 2023 card in this year 2024, they are weirdly struggling

[@R1ckyZer0]

Same draft same hero pool, people starting to read their play style like a book. Atf starting to practice new hero but still not enough, skitter been spamming gyro nonstop. If you notice, they often picked couple of same heroes on multiple matches. Against weak team they can win with the similar draft, but strong teams seems to be ready to counter their drafts. Kinda shocking how they manage to make OG looks like top tier team on game 1. I know the draft was terrible but they got stomped so hard.

[@sabii8571]

and when you guys still writting an essay, they still on top of group while struggling

[@R1ckyZer0]

@@sabii8571 I don't think you get the point..?

[@singa-el9952]

This is group stage, its not even the official tournament. They will be on upper bracket​@@R1ckyZer0

[@mrsquadbot]

@R1ckyZer0 We do, your point is trash

[@selemenerise]

Is it just me or does anybody think that Timado really really greedy when OG opens war in game 2?

[@mungriyaw]

shouldn't these videos be uploaded on the ESL Dota 2 page?

[@eemili704]

Nope

[@ChubitzML]

If morp buy DR can ez burst 1 hero he literally no damage

[@Unkown0002]

Ammar carried the game for Falcon. I never consider Skitter as top tier carry. He can only play simple carry, he can’t play complicated carry like Morph. Timado, Pure, Watson, and Yatoro all better than him

[@Da_W1ck]

Skitter been spamming gyro.

[@enki5228]

Why would you even complicate your life if you can play your comfort heroes

[@enki5228]

And they won a lot of majors because of that

[@jisunski02]

@@enki5228 Major is nothing compare to TI dude, you need to be versatile in hero if you want to be TI champ carry, thats the point

[@devilbob]

Who tf is Yatoro? I only know Raddan

[@HarisKhan-qy3sy]

MarL1ne peak lasted 4 months only

[@RosaSinens1s]

8-39, nice feed. Never see Falcon got destroyed this bad. What happen?

[@jackthebeetle7981]

They did it on purpose. Hiding strats before TI.

[@mando8194]

@@jackthebeetle7981copium

[@MuhHanaki]

​@@jackthebeetle7981yes ,, for Ti 30

[@RosaSinens1s]

@@jackthebeetle7981 🤣

[@konanangel6965]

At least falcon qualified to ti. How bout og? Nvm, 1win qualified, so og was secured their spot on ti​ @@MuhHanaki

[@raihandiadi3290]

In game 2 timafo shouldve go for the supports, that will surely win it for og

[@gx1313131]

ye, and nullifer is better than bloodthrone. Morp wouldve instant kill one supp if he got nullifer

[@chardjoketv4790]

What tomadog and ceb can do? Hoping win fight timber and roar sign hero?

[@masteryoshi7870]

people in the comments is full of lowranks analysis

[@masteryoshi7870]

average mmr in comment section : 1k - 4k 🤡

[@Jigoku_No_Iru]

I totally get you bro, trust me

[@RosaSinens1s]

Typical hindsight herald questioning draft after game ended. I remember people got all hype when ammar last picked venge, then when it didn't work they starts blaming everyone, lmao.

[@reevus2558]

SANDKING - ❌ MISSKING - ✅

[@iconsofsin96]

Skadi?

[@Musicaloud208]

SK w/o agha its a joke on late game

[@man6taztv964]

Its useless tbh..

[@jpnnstrps]

i paused the vod at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1756">29:16</a> and sneyking looks like he has gills instead of eyes.

[@kimkim-cq6tg]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2262">37:42</a> 4 man stun

[@yudistiraadinugraha2420]

stop picking sk mid 😢

[@C_Vigy]

im not a fan of pos 1 pudge, but skitter? idk if they hiding strat or something but dang watching gyro again and again is boring

[@hoohsowner697]

Sandking mid meta...like never see a single won so far...or i miss something?? 🤔🤔

[@serraphimoon]

topson????

[@hoohsowner697]

@@serraphimoon perfect.

[@lucab574]

well maybe if malr1ne could hit a fuckin stun once in the game... that was such a freewin

[@sabii8571]

if you never see a single win from mid sk then you are not watching this tournament wtf lol

[@ILoveRamen444]

u miss a lot. see other pros

[@Salmon0999]

Bzm Dota )

[@dadelacruz2396]

Why they using this competition suggestive heroes so stupid. Ammar cant play with venge. Such a stupid picks

[@damsssoltani5126]

OG won

[@UmarRosyad]

OG spent to much time roshing One thing I noticed, aegis againts tanky heroes is not that usefull

[@jpw1308]

Looks like a dumb at game 2 .. Why keep chasing hard target 1st .. OG must Clear the support 1st..

[@user-ob6vc3rf2q]

Its nyx jobs tbh, but he just run in circle like headless chicken at last war

[@andrysiswanto3883]

Replace skitter.

[@misterx7811]

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[@bayumahendra1797]

Wth OG they just relic in the past now

[@Da_W1ck]

What happened to game 1? Did relic just stomp Falcon? Because that looks bad for Falcon.

[@DMS707]

@@Da_W1ckfalcons sabotaged that

[@stoicarchitect]

Ammar is just a god tier offlane

[@tommasopisapia7464]

just don't see game 1 lol

[@R1ckyZer0]

​@@tommasopisapia7464😭

[@devilbob]

@@tommasopisapia7464 Why teams are stil pocking Venge for core positions? In every single game I saw with her Venge was tottaly useless and lost without a chance

[@tommasopisapia7464]

@@devilbob pros can be wrong about some heroes, simple as that

[@fariszaini5340]

Falcon first win )))

[@loust1264]

is it just me or morph as a hero feels underwhelming these days

[@rovandi]

morph actually is a good hero but in this case u wont able to deal any damage if u have backliner enemy, like cm and hoodwink is the hero that able to hide and still having a huge impact. and morph is just 1 move hero, if he move wrong it wont be a good war, except like a pa who can easily throw dagger and dagger, but pa is too weak at mid game, unlike gyro and morph. i have play morphing a lot and having enemy like hoodwink is the worst nightmare for morphing. cause he can always hiding in a tree.

[@augustjrr]

morphling no skadi against two strength cores :))

[@Jigoku_No_Iru]

"Skadi against strenght cores", thats new?

[@user-tq6pr1vm3w]

@@Jigoku_No_Iru:D what’s your rank bro ? Of course skadi vs strenght cores. It lowers their regen and lifesteal.

[@Jigoku_No_Iru]

@@user-tq6pr1vm3w The explanation there is skadi vs timber and gyro satanic is very good, but not cuz there are "strenght cores", since when skadi is mandatory to reduce all strenght heroes regen, that is ridiculous, skadi is good against lifesteal, very high regen or against ranged heroes in general cuz the slows are higher against ranged, im 5k and im sure i have the reason in this, if you are lower, try harder and if u are higher, you are a joke

[@blablablabla261]

@@Jigoku_No_Iru stfu noob thats why you are only 5k

[@alnivcasts5019]

@@blablablabla261 he is right though

[@hendrobarlow4031]

what is this 240p?

[@MegaJackolope]

That's how youtube works when it's a fresh upload. Unless the creator specifically enables an option, youtube uploads the various qualities as they finish uploading.

[@DaveeeDavee]

@@MegaJackolope its 2024 and people still don't know how youtube work. freaking unreal

[@edgardoybanezjr.2857]

Lol timado relying on right click without silver edge or skadi. Your hero is morph not slark bro.

[@rohithchagara3269]

Are u stupid?

[@Janjan.Marquez.Acebedo]

A

[@HumanSagaVault]

Ammar left OG?🤔

[@darzhide7990]

y

[@shaolin012]

Falcon win

[@chefmike3794]

Wrong channel

[@barbasour]

guys. just wanna tell ya that I'm fecking rich with that 1st game bet. goddamn man. how can people be that blind? it's so obvious

[@leechaingpei934]

gg BZM mid sk no scepter.. OG shouldhave win easily if he build scepter..

[@ashlike270]

🤣

[@waaaaaaaa5804]

no one build agh in pro scene tho

[@yogic-xt6zn]

noob timado

[@HumanSagaVault]

Topson left OG?

[@leonegan2704]

u living in stone age?

[@erinztan7278]

topson now in lakers

[@Ronybarui]

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[@markermarque9843]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="983">16:23</a> 2x TI positioning... 😂😂

[@Da_W1ck]

8:52 ... 🥲🥲

[@kazaffmr4216]

that's how you play 0 dmg Morphling...

[@Jigoku_No_Iru]

0 dmg morph? Morph with daedalus is 0 dmg? He was doing all the dmg for his team almost entire game, you must be a random clown, I dont know why Im answering on your comment.

[@Da_W1ck]

Highest damage=0 damage. Nice logic

[@lahiruparanamana3442]

Timado such a joke - buying bloodthorn without buyback .... sold the game ....also no skaadi against Str cores... jokes

[@Jigoku_No_Iru]

Another herald talking about skadi against str heroes,imagine buying skadi in almost every game cuz there are str heroes, such stupid logic

[@lahiruparanamana3442]

@@Jigoku_No_Iru Why aren't you playing for a professional team with your professional knowledge mate :P

[@Da_W1ck]

​@@lahiruparanamana3442Why aren't you?

[@Jigoku_No_Iru]

@@lahiruparanamana3442 The irony doenst suit you given the fact that you the one who call pros a joke, you must be the pro not me, mate

[@lahiruparanamana3442]

@@Jigoku_No_Iru Irony is lost on you as well in that case. My saving grace is that the analysts confirm my rationale.

[@idkwhy3102]

Trash vs Garbage

[@johnjames832]

your mom vs deez nuts

[@bayumahendra1797]

Very accurate,well said buddy

[@najib146]

Thats why OG still no. 1

[@HellGatyr]

is this satire ?

[@markermarque9843]

OG lost??? no hype title so I assume they lost...

[@tommasopisapia7464]

won 1 game lost the other

[@kebab_o]

wrong

[@markermarque9843]

@@kebab_o They won game 2??? OG fanboy??

[@kebab_o]

@@markermarque9843 yes I am OG fan and Im boy. In our country 1-1 is tie

[@R1ckyZer0]

Stomp game 1 tho.

[@archonarchon6613]

ahahahaha...OG so trassshhh 🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@tommasopisapia7464]

they won 1 game you blind scrub?

[@a7xmetal200]

@@tommasopisapia7464 its truth , OG is traash LOL

[@tommasopisapia7464]

@@a7xmetal200 cope lil noob they are amongs the best teams in the world just see the standing

[@a7xmetal200]

@@tommasopisapia7464 OG trassh 🤣🤣🤣

[@tommasopisapia7464]

@@a7xmetal200 cope lil noob they are amongs the best teams in the world just see the standing

[@mhafizka1972]

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