Noodle Gate | Denmark's Ramen Noodle Ban and Selective Food Regulation

[@ConradMolden]

“These are banned because someone actually died… Now Conrad, here’s your portion…” 🍜🥵😂

[@RobeTrotting]

Yeah, that’s basically how it went 😂

[@roguebanshee]

The only reason to make food this spicy is if the dish itself tastes awful. It should be noted that the level 1 & 2 were unbanned after a couple of weeks. The level 3 version is still banned for the health risk reason.

[@vrenak]

The Skare meat scandal died out because the company went under, and the meat destroyed. So it's now just a lot of legal wrangling over the remnants of the company.

[@yarra352]

They issued a temporary ban on all of them pending tests of the capsaicin levels. After testing the ban was lifted on the 2 milder ones. I think the main worry was that there was a challenge going around amongst kids, and the supermarkets were quick to capitalise on it making these noodles easily available. So they pulled the handbreak the best way they could to protect kids from themself. I love spicy food also these noodles, but yeah, not everyone share my love for it. I usually set the spice level to mild when I have guests, and then set a bowl with "spice adjuster" on the table.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

Then why not ban (strong)peppers? Ooooh right...wrong signal to ban a vegetable 😛

[@yarra352]

@@dallesamllhals9161 let's see, maybe because it wasn't peppers kids were daring eachother to eat, perhaps...

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@yarra352 'cause DK kids don't do pepper-challenges? ER DU 100% sikker på den? Har du børn....i Danmark?

[@yarra352]

@@dallesamllhals9161 kids will never stop doing stupid stuff, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop them. And I know from experience that the extremely hot peppers are not as easy to find as the Buldak noodles were once they became a hype.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@yarra352 Oooh! An Expert. Does that mean YOU were a stupid kid....once?

[@MrFtoudalk]

Sweden would have to ban (and they should) surstroemming before they ban spicy noodles.

[@lailana3325]

As a Dane, i don't care that they banned that spicy shit, it doesnt taste good anyway. I think it's good that they protect children from harm.

[@Ash-V-Leal]

Harm, are you crazy?

[@TheRealBuicken]

I'm a Dane, but now living in Sweden. When I read that these Buldak noodles was poisonous, I was worried, because I had been eating those several times before, and had more in the cupboard, including the 3X. But when I found out the "poison" was Capsaicin, I concluded they were idiots. (I think they lifted ban again later). I do think the 3x is very hot, so I usually make it with mixed vegetables and some meat, as a full meal. The others are just a "snack" 😈

[@svendemadsen8275]

Koreans eat spicy food to de-stress too, which to some might sound weird, since eating very spicy food causes distress, but that stress is temporary, taking your mind off other things that might cause stress in your general life.

[@Gadeberg90]

Yes to give the body a little chok and something else to focus on.

[@sifrasmussen2315]

Great episode. An advise. Annie, never drink cola or anything sparkeling after chili as it opens up the taste buds and and makes it so much worse. Unless you want a longer burn of cause. I was sitting here sayibng " ooh nooooo" as you reached for the pepsi. About the peber. It comes from the old Danish word Pebermø and Pebersvend. Which is equivalent pebermaid/old maid... not sure what to the word is for an unwed man. But back in the day, the spice seller was usually an unwed man that would travel around. So being 30 and unwed pretty much means, that there is only one way to go from here. In to the spice trade, as a traveling merchant. That's why they get spices. I have never seen the thing with the pole, except on the internet. Instead it would be through the mail slot, if people could not get in. If they could get in, it would be in their bed and all over. Perhaps having some drizzeled over your head, but not to the extent, that I have seen in Clips, within the last couple of years. It is also why you will sometimes see barrels ontop of eachother, to look like a pebergrinder. People will make these and place in from of where the person who is turning 30 lives. It is often filled with concrete so you need machines to move it. Sometimes you will see one of these out side a house for years, cause it is impossible to move. I personally think it is a horrible tradition, with the peber grinder. Especially when you live out here in one of the smaller towns, where there is lot of room for those. It looks horrible, and I would hate to have one of those in my front yeard. Good thing I was married by the time i turned 30.

[@skinke280]

I love Derek tells the story that a person died just after they ate some. However, pretty sure it's a very rare case. Really like your podcast.

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

I knew someone who died right after eating potatoes.

[@RobeTrotting]

Thanks so much for listening/watching 😊

[@klausolekristiansen2960]

@@ane-louisestampe7939 I knew I was right not to eat them.

[@cl154-o3o]

Bought 40 of the 3x ones. I love the taste and also got 6 bottles of the sauce.

[@RobeTrotting]

They’re pretty good! May go to Sweden for some 3x soon 😆

[@oliverlanz781]

I genuinely like them for culinary reasons. Especially the stew type. I use it as a base, adding both, proteins and veggies. Yummie. I will miss them here in DK 🇩🇰

[@dorisw5558]

So the cinnamon stuff: the cheap cinnamon (Cassia) used in most commercial bakery can be very high in cumarin which can damage your liver if you eat large amounts. The expensive cinnamon (Ceylon) has only trace amounts. So in your ome baking/cooking just use the Ceylon stuff and avoid bought baked goods if you can.

[@exessen1684]

Thank god they rescinded it, I love Buldak noodles. Having a Korean gf this was one of the most embarrassing things to ever happen to me as a Dane lmao😅

[@Sigart]

It... does make sense to ban it if someone had been hospitalised, though? XD

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@Sigart ...and when kids starts to challenge each other with real peppers = BAN 'EM!!?

[@Sigart]

@@dallesamllhals9161 If consuming a normal amount sends you straight to hospital.. yes? O_o

[@GoforKrogh]

I never even heard of the brand before they made it illigal. Then I got the noodles and tried them. They're not that bad, at least not Spicy nor Spicy X 2 but can't get a hold of the Spicy X 3

[@veronicajensen7690]

the ban is not about you eating them, it was children daring children on the internet and cases of children in the hospitals after eating them, children don't know their own limits and are easy to pressure, what they could have done instead is asking those who sell it not to sell it to children

[@rljturbo]

I am a Dane and I litterally did not hear about this until right now. But then again I don’t like Spicy food at all, so that might be why it passed under my radar.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

6:49 Chili Klaus NOT a Dane?

[@silkeran]

Haha, the smoking was actualky the one of the first things I noticed. And yeah, it's pretty shocking.

[@crimzondragonz7270]

just for the the irony part, for the information, smoking is not the only thing in the world that makes a contry unhealthy, the thing is we have more healthy stuff then we have negative stuff

[@BenjaminVestergaard]

I bought the large cup/bowl of 3x, before it even became a trend, at my local Turkish grocery store. Have to agree, it's just hot if it has any other flavours, they're not strong enough. I like spicy food, but I prefer when there's also taste of the pepper fruit the seeds came out of, and other veggies. So my own conclusion is also that it's kinda bland or boring, if you can say so about a very spicy soup. Sure, could add various kinds of tofu, choy and perhaps crack an egg in there and add spring onions... but at that point, why not just buy a Sichuan hot pot base at the nearest Chinese grocer? That stock has so much more depth in taste than what you get with these instant noodles... it's just hot for hotness sake.

[@dallesamllhals9161]

6:49 So what about Chili Klaus, lady?

[@freja3187]

the regular hot chicken flavor was never banned (level 1). you should have gotten the hot chicken stew it actually have taste other than spicy and chicken

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

Why haven't you guys met Chilli Claus? That's a mistake!

[@RobeTrotting]

If you know him we'd love to meet him haha

[@Gadeberg90]

No one is claiming that Denmark is the healthiest country in the world cause it isn't. And smoking definetly do get criticized and it is slowly getting regulated and phased out, so in future generations it isn't as popular and spread out. But there is of course still a lot of people around from the older generations when everyone and their dog smoked. Alcohol is yeah.

[@davidpax]

I don't know where you got the impression that Denmark is a healthy country. Smoking and especially alkohol are the reasons that we Danes don't get to live as long as people in other Skandinavian countries.

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

Pebersvend (and later also Pebermø) dates back to The Hansa Trade Town. Those trading in peber - and other spices - were obliged to stay unmarried. Don't ask me why 🙄

[@Rimedur]

The company behind just made a return event in cph ^^

[@MaximusMeridiusDK]

I tried those noodles, and they are just way to spicy... even the black one, who is medium is to mich 🔥🔥

[@cagekind]

should I move to DK for love ? I love the country (and my gf) there but am I ready to leave my old life behind

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

Of course you should! Can you think of any better reason for moving? And if it doesn't work out, you're free to go back... But give give it two winters 🤣🤣Don't give up your first February

[@vrenak]

Maybe weigh the pros and cons, consider is it long term the best choice for you both? are you ready to face the challenges, depending on where you're from the level of cultureshock as a resident could be significant....

[@dallesamllhals9161]

If in doubt(seems a bit like it ) don't.

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

@@dallesamllhals9161 If in doubt, then go there and make up your mind.

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

Don't listen to the kill joys. Listen to me: I'm old and wise: When you get old, you'll not spend time regreting all the stupidities you made throught life. You will be regretting the chances you didn't take. I moved to the a-hole of the world for love and I hated it. But I have never regretted it. It was an experience, and we just moved somewhere else. What I do regret is that I didn't accept the offer of having coffee with a very handsome Italian guy one summerday in 2005. What could that coffee have led to? Fun? Wisdom? Friendship? A holiday in Italy? I'll never know!

[@NaveedKhan-bs1sc]

They are now unbanned 😂

[@veronicajensen7690]

it's not like you cant get lots of spices and spicy food in Denmark, and you can certainly get food from all over the world , so suggesting it could be "xenophobic" reasons is ridiculous, the correct reason is simply they got scared about the German cases it may have been over reaction, but we have to remember it was children daring each other on the internet

[@williammckinney4090]

Too spicy for the Danes, so spicy it hurts.

[@kennethhansen4240]

i skulle invatajue Chilli klaus om emnet og smage hans chillier :)

[@Weise1001]

banning spicy food out of xenophobic reasons would be so damn stupid that i have a hard time thinking any would, besides a lot of danes like chili claus, and i would hate to see him cry left to eat bland food

[@rorylol]

To even consider the banning of some spicy noodles as being xenophobic is laughable.

[@TheWeirdDinosaur]

sorry but as a smoke here, trust me, you get bombarded with no smoking zones, stop smoking programs and people talking shit if you smoke within 10 meters of them. i mean heck look at our cig packs, dying people and colored black so they don't look too good. so yeah the no criticism is bs

[@RobeTrotting]

meh, I dunno - as a non-smoker the default should be a non-smoking zone

[@vrenak]

@@RobeTrotting Frankly I'd be fine with going even stricter than NZ on tobacco sale, and also forbid smoking anywhere outside your own home. raising prices far higher too. 200 DKK for a pack would be fine.

[@TheWeirdDinosaur]

@@RobeTrotting it is the default most places tho, and i mean it as it's part of the many ways smokers get criticized here. it's more of a headache than Jehovah's witness ngl. also i was in the US this summer and i see more anti smoking here than i saw there, heck there was a 3$ discount if i bought 2 packs. it could be because it was Minnesota and i know it's different between states.

[@ConfusioNIntrusioN]

i'm danish and i can handle spice to some extent. but anyways banning something because it's too spicy is literally impeaching on freedom of choice. if it's an actual issue it should just be put in a category of it's own, so the stores can market them at the same level as other foods 🙂

[@PalleRasmussen]

People that are joking with the weak Danish taste buds; here, have some salt liquorice please.

[@RobeTrotting]

🤮

[@PalleRasmussen]

@@RobeTrotting weaklings. Salt liquorice is the best 😛