Ancient Greece in 18 minutes | The quickest history of Greece I've seen (Reaction)

Ancient Greece in 18 minutes, as explained by Arzamas. Thoughts & commentary on etymology, historical figures & authors + a literary recommendation. I could not find a correlation with the word cretin. Let me know if you do!
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[@NosirrathOfficial]

They mentioned Schleimann here and how he "excavated" the city of Troy but his story is much more tragic. He thought very highly of himself and when he went to the presumed site of Troy he excavated the site very violently with dynamite. He blasted through the first few layers of the site and actually got to the time period that contained the Trojan ruins, but he was naive and thought there should be much more there than he found and wanted to dig to the deeper layers. So he continued to use dynamite to dig deeper and, in the process, he destroyed most of the archeological evidence of the Trojan war. He also had a habit of finding artifacts and lacksidasically assigning them impressive names like "The Mask of Agamemnon" (the gold face shown in the video) even though there was no evidence to support it, he just wanted it to sound impressive so he could brag to others about his finds. He even found precious jewellery and stones that he gave to his wife so she could wear them to parties. It was a very selfish and smug display of opulence, with no real concerns to the science or repurcussions of his actions :(

[@Valandar2]

Yep. And he made one of the most braggardly statements on finding that gold mask - "I have looked upon the face of Agamemnon!" He was archetypical of the dilletante adventurer who sought treasure and glory, not wisdom and knowledge.

[@ub-4630]

Sounds like a huge loss of history and culture

[@JayM409]

in later times it would be called RCAing a site, after the similar practices of Roy Chapman Andrews.

[@boborappa]

He didn't actually find Troy. It was another amateur archaeologist called Frank Calvert; whose family bought the land. He was slowly excavating the site but lacked the finances to cunduct an actual dig. Schleimann had the money and they teamed up. Calvert wanted a slower more methodical dig; Schleimann didn't. If I remember right, he used the dynamite when Calvert was travelling away for a bit. His other find in Mycenea came from locals telling him where it was. Some of the structures was never fully covered and locals brought offerings in memory of the "kings of the past".

[@roerd]

The name is Schliemann, not Schleimann. The digraphs 'ei' and 'ie' are pronounced very differently in German.

[@demonicrebellion6903]

Brian Cox is such a phenomenal actor, I had to check and see if it was him, but it definitely was. He played in the movie Troy.

[@MrVvulf]

He's always great. Played Agamemnon in Troy, but one of his best performances was in Rob Roy.

[@demonicrebellion6903]

@@MrVvulf He was spectacular as the first Hannibal Lecter as well.

[@andrewc1205]

I knew it was him, I just couldn't remember his name. Great actor!

[@demonicrebellion6903]

@@andrewc1205 My friend, never let that limit you when you have google at your finger tips, simply search the cast of the film which you remember said actor in and viola, you're name ready :)

[@B355Y]

Knew it was him lol

[@deron2203]

What got me started with the Ancient Greeks were the mythology stories. Growing up i read a lot of mythology mainly Greek,Egyptian,Norse and some Native American. Greece will always have a soft spot for me, just because it helped me get into mythology and history as a kid haha.

[@NoProtocol]

It was my gateway into mythology as well!

[@t0n0k0]

​@@NoProtocol could you react to "Russian voyage that nobody talks about" by blue jay. It's seems funny but factual. How this is missed about naval warfare in general is beyond me.

[@georgekoul]

@@NoProtocol By the way Cleopatra was of Greek origin.

[@xenotypos]

Greek mythology is also the ancient mythology we have the most records about. So it's very rich/complex, even compared with Egyptian mythology for example, since we have more traces nowadays. In comparison, we sadly know very little of Norse and Mesopotamian mythologies.

[@deron2203]

@@xenotypos very true 👍

[@eleahjacobson5044]

My mum is Greek, from Corfu, my sister is currently living in Athens, I remember visiting Greece when I was 13, it has a rich history, and the food and family I have fond memories. Very informative video, very interesting, Brian Cox he narrates a few docos, very good

[@JimCrossan]

in my Primary school at age 7 my teacher opened this vertical crate full of books. Typical classroom furniture. Anyhoo by age 9, I'd red them all. The thing was, because it doesn't reflect on modern society, as it is today, (this is it) people regard history as a fairy story or even worse a legend. Who's giving them credit for being Human.. :)

[@brucenatelee]

That is why I get annoyed by modern politics in historical movies and shows.

[@thewhat6219]

Props to that messenger who finished his job before dying. That's some real work ethic right there. "Not rain, nor sleet, nor snow, nor eminent death via exhaustion shall keep the postmen from their appointed rounds."

[@bobbafetty797]

That’s how we got the name marathon for races that people run. 26.2 miles

[@Tinler1138]

I believe that is Brian Cox narrating. He played Agamemnon in the movie Troy. Keep it up girl! Cheers!

[@NoProtocol]

I haven’t seen the movie Troy but I just searched his name, I know him from the show Succession!

[@davimathias6721]

was just going to say that, pretty nice

[@Sotyx1]

@@NoProtocol 3 hour reaction video to Troy director's cut when??? lol

[@leonidasmalekakis7366]

About the word for voice you are correct. The Phoenicians only spoke with vowels, the consonants were added later. In Greek the word for ''vowel'' is ''Φωνήεντα'', and ''φωνή'' means voice. You are very perceptive and well educated and spoken. I admire and love your channel more and more

[@bugsby4663]

The post Alexander Hellenistic world always gets rushed through, but I think it is incredibly interesting with epic battles and a colourful cast of characters. I love the narrator. His voice reminds me of the actor Brian Cox, who played Agamemnon in the film Troy.

[@xenotypos]

I think the helenistic part is probably also the height of Greek science (even more so than the classical age). In Alexandria in particular, with Euclides, Eratosthenes, Hero etc...

[@thetalantonx]

It is Brian Cox. You have a good memory.

[@NosirrathOfficial]

Stephen Fry also wrote another book after "Mythos" and "Heroes" called "Troy", which goes over the epic of the Illiad and the Oddysey and its full story

[@innosanto]

Video creators forgot about Thebes which was very important and could have a note , since it was important to Philip as well, but overall great work, amazing work for 18 minutes.

[@TheRealMirCat]

Relative time distances, reminds me of how we are closer to the T-Rex than the T-Rex was to the Stegosaurus.

[@AndarilhoMarco]

For the few ones who don't know: greek culture remained so relevant that the beginning of the Medievel Age was marked by both the fall of Rome and the death of the last person to be fluent in ancient greek, and the end of Medieval Ages was marked by the reintroduction of greek texts into Europe from translations to arabic and a byzantine collection of ancient greek texts.

[@daviddios1619]

I agree, this was a very interesting subject, considering all the historic events of the Mediterranean for at least a millennium, the Greeks contributed so much, and much of it still holds up functionally to this day. Thank you dear, I am always looking forward to your insights and endless curiosity. ❤😂

[@eddiepierce7028]

In the 1980’s I went to Greece, serving in the military. Growing up loving the “Greek Mythology” I took many pictures! Modern history started there! Loved it!

[@NoProtocol]

Awesome that you have pictures of your time there Eddie!

[@Flastew]

It is wild how so much history is lost to natural and man made disasters. Enjoyed your thoughts on word origins. When I was young I enjoyed a show where words were broken down to show how they got there meaning, it was very cool.

[@NoProtocol]

That sounds like a show I’d seriously enjoy

[@Flastew]

@@NoProtocol It was called Wordsmith. It was really interesting the way the host broke down words to show where their meaning came from. I wish something like that was around today to help people have a better understanding of words and theri origin.

[@jdeamaral]

It was a boring day. No Protocol (wish I knew her first name,) uploads a video. Now it's a great day!

[@DemetriosKongas]

Phonetics is not linked etymologically to Phoenician. It derives from phone meaning voice in Greek (we use the same word in modern Greek). Other derivatives of phone in English include phonology and telephone. The Latin word was vox from which words like vociferous and vocal derive in modern English. Phoinician is said to be related to Phoinix meaning purple.

[@nagual1992]

The Minoans were an amazing civilization from Crete. I highly recommend Epimetheus’s video on them.

[@garyemagee7177]

I'm so glad I found your channel ! Everything you create is fantastic.

[@SWLinPHX]

My dad was Spartan. His boyhood home in Sparta was occupied by Nazis in the early 1940s when he was like 10-12 years old.

[@johnnysalter7072]

Thank you for making these. What you are doing has long been needed. A brief outline, with excellent references for people that want to a deeper understanding.

[@BBKing1977]

I was happy to see Brian Cox confirmed as the narrator in the closing credits. (Brian Cox the actor, not the physicist.)

[@bobbugwithoneeyeskingiskin8974]

Brian Cox played the first version of Hannibal Lector on film in the Micheal Mann’s movie Manhunter!

[@loudogg46290]

ok i just LOL super loud. she asks, "which one did you like more the iliad or the odyssey?" i audibly answered, "the odyssey obviously" and then she goes, "and why is it the odyssey?" i was like wtf lol

[@tripsixx5802]

I’m a big fan of your channel! Love your seeming insatiable crave for knowledge of all kinds and how quickly you seem to grasp anything! I’m a racecar driver and although I don’t drive top fuelers they are the pinnacle of what humanity can do in the realm of performance! I’d love to see you react to the video “how top fuel dragsters work” with your scientific mind you may find it interesting and more so that people strap in these beasts! Some of the fastest are females as well from the same family the Force family a dynasty of drag racing! Either way keep up the great work big fan

[@dawatcherz]

thanks for recommending Mythos and Heroes. i am now downloading them and saw there is also Troy that was released in '20

[@mina_en_suiza]

I'm not a huge fan of reaction videos, but I love yours, because you always point me to stuff I really like. And I also love your comments - nothing more boring than somebody just sitting there nodding, or worse: talking bullshit. Yours are just perfect as they are.

[@anthonyjames9150]

Did they ever do an Ancient Egypt one? That would be great. Complete the three very important ancient empires.

[@guyfrape687]

Bit late to the party on this one, but if anyone wants to know more about the Peloponnesian War a great source is Thucydides. Where Heredotus wrote down any old tat he was told & reported it as true, Thucydides was fairly contemporary & compiled multiple primary sources then critically assessed the most likely truth before writing it down. For a history of Alexander's campaigns IMHO you can't do better than Arrian's Anabasis of Alexander. Came a good while after Alexander, but generally regarded as well sourced. Or Plutarch's Life if you want something more condensed

[@mikeythehat6693]

Yeah Cleopatra was around at the same time as Julius Ceasar (obviously) just two thousand years ago. The Pyramids were built two and a half thousand years before that. I bring Cleopatra up (well, because you did) but also she was the last Ptolemaic ruler, who were the descendants of a Macedonian royal house and generals in Alexanders conquering army. So, therefore, deserving of a mention in any conversation about the ancient Greeks.

[@onliwankannoli]

I used to prefer the Odyssey, until I studied Attic Greek, and then the Iliad came alive, with its very cadence delivering its powerful emotions. Astounding how these beautiful works were preserved orally for centuries! These are not short works, hundreds of pages and thousands of lines each. Yet in pre-literate times there were bards who could recite one or both works from memory. They were composed in such a way to aid in memorization, with their structures, meter, and repetition. It seems like a skill all but lost, though some have endeavored in modern times to memorize Homer’s epics.

[@2apocalypsex]

The earliest references to the island of Crete come from texts from the Syrian city of Mari dating from the 18th century BC, where the island is referred to as Kaptara. It was known in ancient Egyptian as Keftiu or kftı͗w, strongly suggesting a similar Minoan name for the island. In Ancient Greek, the name Crete (Κρήτη) first appears in Homer's Odyssey. Its etymology is unknown. One proposal derives it from a hypothetical Luwian word *kursatta (compare kursawar 'island', kursattar 'cutting, sliver'). Another proposal suggests that it derives from the ancient Greek word "κραταιή" (krataie̅), meaning strong or powerful, the reasoning being that Crete was the strongest thalassocracy during ancient times.

[@nathanv.4397]

Dang your mental acuity is dapper. Your correlative abilities are fast ...like that phonics : Phoenician idea

[@conm87]

7:01 Good question. Phonics comes from the Greek word phone for "sound." It has no relation Phoenician, whose etymology comes from the Greek “phoinix”.

[@SBC581]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the history of the 26.2 mile marathon, that was your perfect setup.

[@ericclifford641]

So nice to find an American reviewer who is intelligent and can contribute to the subject instead of constantly asking viewers to give information that the reviewer should have researched themselves. Eric C 19 Apr 2024

[@BjornTurambar]

In the Balkans, many countries still dilute wine and it’s actually pretty good with sparkling water

[@kristinaF54]

'O Brother Where Art Thou?' is a retelling of Homer's Odyssey, with a cyclops in it (played by John Goodman).

[@NoProtocol]

I didn’t know that, thank you! The name sounds familiar

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

Phoenician comes from the Greek word Phoenix meaning Purplish Red Phonics comes from Phoni meaning Voice in Greek

[@user-tb4hm5dy2v]

in antiquity there were periods of great geological upheaval. The names of the islands also served the need to record these disturbances. CRETE IN GREEK IS 'ΚΡΗΤΗ' who comes from the word ΚΡΑΤΑΙΗ. Her name means strong, she who is a state. KRATAIH means strong, powerfull. Crete was the largest sea-kingdom in the world and its first guardians were the Kouretes from whom the Cretans got their name. . Peace

[@AtticusAmericanus]

I'd reccomend Epic History TV's video on the Battle of Salamis for more detail on the battle.

[@NoProtocol]

I haven’t seen that video yet, but I’m familiar with the channel. I’ll put it on the list! Thank you (:

[@fgialcgorge7392]

I love the little pause breaks of knowledge because you're almost always thinking exactly what I am. My mind doesn't have to wander.

[@Seeker6192]

Your thirst for knowledge is so attractive..

[@chimporila]

From what I've seen, the word "Phoenicia" comes from φοῖνιξ (phoînix) which was a dye that the phoenicians/canaanite traded

[@yorgosmouzakitis7052]

Τα γράμματα αυτά ήταν Ελληνικά .Ονομάστηκαν Φοινίκια γιατά μεσα σε αναγλυφες γραφφές βράθηκε το χρώμα που κατασκεύαζαν οι Φοίνικες οι οπολιοι β΄λεβαια ζούσαν σε δεκαδες μέρη του Ελληνικού κόσμου..

[@jensemde2123]

Thanks again for your channel. Fun and interesting as always. "Cretin" has its origins in Latin "christianus" as mentioned a few comments below. The reason for the change of the meaning is supposedly that imbeciles were seen as "innocent" as Christ. Just stumbled upon a video from Invicta: "How Did Carthage Raise its Mercenary Armies?" and remembered your comments on a video about the Punic Wars (different opinions about the Carthaginian mercenaries). Have not yet checked it, but usually it is a good history channel and they mention the sources they used.

[@talonkarrde9904]

Regarding Homer: The Iliad was written by the prieshood of the Oracle at Delphi, and Homer was their frontman representative to promote the work. The Dark Age never happened. The work was written about 680-660 BC, shortly after the final war between the Greeks and the Trojans. That was why the city of Byzantium was founded, to make a city at the location of Troy unprofitable. Regarding William Shakespeare: His name means 'we will wage war'. The Globe theatre was built in the center of London to display his plays. The language that was invented for the plays to be rendered into is now the international 'lingua Franca', in accordance with the motto: the Whole Wide World. Sir Francis Bacon was in charge of the team whose job it was to translate the plays into this new language that was being created. You'll notice that many of the plays are set in Italy, and this is because that is where most of them originated from before being sent to England for translation. Not exactly the work of one man. But, the 'one-man mythos' is necessary to create an heroic figure to give to people to idolize. This is done all the time: Newton, Einstein, Beethoven, Mozart, for example, are all fictional characters who never did but the tiniest fraction of what they are portrayed as doing.

[@T3leris]

Greetings from Crete love your channel keep going :)

[@NoProtocol]

Greetings! And thank you (:

[@yorgos19681]

the only mistake in this video is that at some point it was implied that the Macedonians are distant relatives of the Greeks, not categorically no. the Macedonians were part of Hellenism that was the reason that Alexander the Great wanted to take revenge against the Persians because they burned Athens. the Macedonians believed in the same gods as the Greeks they spoke the same language as the Greeks they had the same habits there was no difference with the rest of the Greeks I can not understand why the narrator says that they were distant relatives of the Greeks

[@eternal___official]

It was fun watching this and learning stuff i didnt know - greetings from Athens. As always, followed by ur nice and sophisticated reaction

[@jamesharden443]

Since you spoke about time at the start, you've got to watch Vsauce - Illusions of Time. Where he speaks about this particular skewed perspective

[@NoProtocol]

I’ll put that video on my list! Thank you

[@jimmybastas3559]

"Sailing the wine dark sea" by Thomas Cahill is a great book about ancient Greece. In fact its part of a whole series of books about different civilizations and why they matter.

[@NoProtocol]

Thank you for the suggestion Jimmy! I’m not familiar with this book, but I like the title

[@jimmybastas3559]

@No Protocol You're welcome. I enjoy your content. Keep up the good work.

[@xrhstoscbp0774]

3:30 the word crete was first stated at least 3000 years before the english language

[@ArtistJoshuaWeigand]

In Mythos by Stephen Fry (he tells the Greek version) he includes the story of Cupid and Psych, which he says is actually a Roman story, but changes the names to the original Greek characters the Roman incarnations were based on. Also there is a third installment in the series called Troy. It's been podcasts since the Malice book. Yeonmi Park was on Flagrant 2 recently. She was also recently on one with Michael Malice. If you haven't seen her on a podcast yet, I'd recommend that.

[@NoProtocol]

I’ve seen her as a guest on other podcasts, didn’t know she had one of her own. I’ll check it out!

[@ArtistJoshuaWeigand]

@@NoProtocol she doesn't have one of her own. She was just doing another round of guest spots. She has written a knew book.

[@robbie_]

I really enjoyed Victor Davis Hanson's book A War Like No Other (it's on Audible), about the Peloponnesian War (Athens v Sparta).

[@katsouranhs]

Oh!A few weeks ago I recommended this video thank you for watching!

[@NoProtocol]

Thanks for recommending!

[@chrisbovington9607]

Fact check and fun details. The Pyramids of Giza were built in the 26th century BCE, so they were all completed roughly 4,500 years ago. Cleopatra lived and reigned in the 1st century BCE, from 2,069 - 2,030 years ago. So yeah, comfortably she lived about 450 years closer to the modern day than than the construction of those pyramids. For simplicity, let's fix her point in time at 50 BCE and pretend we still live in 2020 CE (because that year felt like an eternity anyway and it makes the math easy). That puts us 2,070 years apart. We can also put a ballpark date on the completion of the three pyramids as being 2570 (Great Pyramid completed in 2569) which is a little off the average but it puts Cleopatra a nice round 2,520 years away from them. Deduct our 2,070 and we get the target 450 difference. Again, this is a convenient approximation. Add those dates together and you get 4,590 years. Pretty close. Why do all this? For context! 450 years before Cleopatra (500 BCE) Cleisthenes has just reformed Athens and Naxos is about the start the Ionian Revolt that led to the Greco-Persian Wars. Classical Greece has not quite begun! Rome is tiny and just overthrew the monarchy. They haven't yet fought the Sabines! Confucius has just been appointed governor of Chung-tu. 450 years after Cleopatra (400 CE) the Roman Empire has already permanently split into Eastern and Western divisions. Rome will soon pull all troops out of Britannia, paving the way for the Anglo-Saxon migration.

[@Hope...M]

Cleopatra was a descendant of Ptolemy, who was given control of Egypt after Alexander died. Okay so I love this kind of stuff. 💯✌️🙏❤️✅

[@RanRayu]

only thing i find more fascinating than ancient history is the mythology connected to it. i love to imagine the circumstances of how and why x part of y myth came to be. like hades and his wife persephone and how the myth of persephone predates the myth of hades, yet in greek mythology he is one of the big 3 because persephone came from a different region. and to think that what we now refer to as mere myths used to be full blown religions. the effects of time are fascinating.

[@NoProtocol]

Reading this just had me thinking about it as well!

[@thetalantonx]

7:02 - "Phonics" means two very, very different things - one is a new-ish way of teaching reading "hukt on foniks werkt fer me", the other is a now archaic term for the study of acoustics. Phonetics, the way words sound, is another modern word ( phōnētikos being the Greek origin of the modern Latin (1797 -> 1803) phoneticus) from phōnē "sound/voice." The Phoenicians gave us their alpha-bet (alpha beta, but aleph-bet as it was a Proto-Canaanite language). It's another one of those bizarre crossings of PIE and Proto-Sinaitic, of the Vedic and the Afro-Asiatic.

[@chrisandreadakis4217]

phoenix was an ancient king tied with our mythology and thats how the name came to be. (also phonogram comes from the greek words φωνή (phoni) and γράμμα (gramma hence the word grammar) which means voice letter. Also also. Im not simping or anyhting but honestly watching you calms me you are stunning.

[@EricJacobson1990]

Im pretty sure that thats Brian Cox narrating. Great actor! He did this 4 part documentary called Addicted to Pleasure (on Tabbaco, Sugar, Opium, and Whiskey) that was awesome.

[@rf4569]

Can I recommend what a call a "Summer book/saga"? It was written for younger audiences, but as I like mythology and adventure, I enjoyed the books. Check the Percy Jackson saga (Greek mythology) by Rick Riordan. I am currently reading his Magnus Chase saga (Norse Mythology). The author is a history teacher, I think. His last saga seems to use the poetic Edda as a reference. I think they are good books to chill and relax, but they still have some useful information to serve as an introduction to these subjects.

[@dimi3446]

As a Greek, after the Roman Empire there was the Byzantine empire for 1,000 years and it included modern Greece as well as other Balkan countries and the whole of Turkey until the Ottoman Empire which came from Central Asia and Mongolia. The most recent one was the Ottoman Empire which included modern Greece as well for 400 years and so Greeks got mixed with Turkish after that.

[@pontiusaquila4196]

Historia Civilis is one of best channels to check for history on youtube, you should give it a try :)

[@TheKrislaf]

Apparently the term "cretin" was originally used to refer to people that suffered from a mental and physical disorder called "Hypothyroidism", but eventually evolved into just another term for idiot.

[@williambranch4283]

Shakespear's Macbeth clearly had a ghost writer ;-) The Yale course is great. But have you read the Funeral Oration of Pericles? The Spartan's considered money and wealth to be effeminate and banned the use of money, not just Persian darics.

[@BennoWitter]

There is a KZbinr by the name of Adorian Deck, who has a series of videos and shorts that are titled "Facts that mess with your perception of time" featuring a whole collection of examples. It's a fascinating topic.

[@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling]

I enjoyed this. Thank you Looking at some of the ancient places being shown we know from history & legend that Odysseus came from Ithaca Spartacus came from Thebes The childhood home of Zeus was a cave located on Crete Alexender the Great was from Macedonia There is an annual running race from Athens to Sparta every September (252km in - I think - a 36 hour time limit). The guy with the German name did find Troy, however he pretty much destroyed the famous city - from the Iliad. There were actually 9 historical cities in the same location with the Iliad version being city number 5 or 6. The amateur achaeologist assumed that the famous version was also the first version - so he kind of destroyed and ransacked everything as he attempted to dig deeper and deeper. As for choosing The Odyssey or The Iliad - that is a really difficult choice to make because the odyssey is kind of like the ultimate adventure novel whereas the Iliad is kind of like a war and romance novel (well they are actually poems) You might enjoy reading another tale from the same time period - The Aeneid, by Virgil . It is the story of a Trojan warrior called Aeneas who escaped from Troy when the city fell and travelled to Italy and is pretty much set as one of the original ancestors of ancient Rome and was highly influential towards their later culture. Just realised that I have lost my copies of Theogony and The Georgics

[@docbp87]

Brian Cox makes for a fantastic narrator!

[@wrenloco]

I thought it him at first, and doubted that as the video went on.

[@shanenolan5625]

This voice actor. Is wonderful Brian Cox. He did a wonderful documentary series. ( the great commanders) about the greatest military commanders. From Alexander to zukov ( ww2 ) He was also the first person to play hannibal lecter ( manhunter ) and two Bourne movies , currently in succession on hbo.

[@NoProtocol]

I was wondering who this was! Thanks Shane

[@shanenolan5625]

@NoProtocol oh he played King agamemnon in Troy ( Brad Pitt) about the fall of Troy .

[@robbie_]

@@shanenolan5625 That was a terrible movie though wasn't it.

[@shanenolan5625]

@@robbie_ yes terrible. A few good fight scenes. The TV mini series versions are better. They took huge liberty's with the story and drastic changes and different ending.

[@Trendle222]

Love how you say HEY! Gonna start.... Halarious love it

[@kobuslab1]

Fri-YEAY chill and new video ! Yaaasss! Day made

[@papertoyss]

The Odyssey and the Iliad *were not* written during the Middle Ages. The were both "officially" edited (yes that's what they practically did) in ancient Athens the 6th century BC by order of Peisistratus, so that the rhapsodists of that time recited it at the Panathenaic festivals would not use their own interpretation or variations. It was later divided by the Alexandrian scholars into 24 rhapsodies. *The latters are responsible for the most systematic work* for the final restoration of the Homeric works, and was done by Zenodotus of Ephesus and Aristarchus of Samothrace in Alexandria the 3nd-2rd century BC. EDIT: to answer your question: the Iliad

[@DJSpaceDonutsv2]

i love the sound of spartan soldiers screaming in greek and fighting with bravery. makes me wanna get into history and play sword fighting games

[@rampantfantasy1181]

i love the point you brought up at the beginning about time feeling skewed. it probably never felt that way for most of humanity's existence because their concept of time was a lot more stable and unchanging whereas the world we live in today is very different from 50 years ago, even 10 years ago. for people like Alexander the Great, those who took part in the Trojan war and even the Vikings, they could look back hundreds of years into their history and find much familiarity. we cant do that

[@jduncanandroid]

hehe... your aside reminded me of a line from Mel Brooks' 'History of the World - Part 1' -- "I present ... the brave and noble Marcus Vindictus; who returns to Rome after winning a great victory over the Cretans at Sparta... (whisper) (OH) make that... the Spartans at Crete!"

[@YuryVVV]

I do indeed speak Russian but I had no idea this channel was Russian. And yes, Greek mythology was my go-to read when I was a kid. Wish I was more inclined to study actual history of those lands though. Really feel like I've missed out on a lot of cool stuff. But hey, that's why I'm here now. Thanks for sharing knowledge with us, No Protocol 🙃

[@NoProtocol]

I’m wishing they had more English videos, but I’m glad you can take advantage of that channel! It’s interesting that Greek mythology is such a go-to for kids. My 7 year old self was so into it too

[@mina_en_suiza]

@@NoProtocol I was also really into it and so was my daughter at this age: We bought her CDs with all the mythology (the books, too, but a bit later). The funny thing is: We found out, that always when she had learned a new story, the next day she would gather her friends in the school-yard and retell the stories for them. Apparently, she was quite good at this, because at least twice, I overheard some of the girls asking: "Will you have a new Greek story tomorrow?" when I picked her up from school.

[@sherabtod3728]

i used to idolise Odysseus when i grew up and my mom used to read me the Odyssee and other hellenic myths. nowadays i realy like the interpretation of odysseus being one of the sea-people, who are also credited by some sources to have destroyed troy

[@btraven7536]

Very informative, the beginnings of Western civilization. The book 1453 by Roger Crowley details the end of the Byzantine empire at Constantinople. Someone should make a Sparta type movie about this.

[@NoProtocol]

I’m not familiar with Roger Crowley, thank you for the recommendation (:

[@matthewrose6275]

Your love of learning is incredible 👌

[@miketaylor803]

"Persian Fire" by Tom Holland is interesting from the Persian perspective

[@KarmasAB123]

Brian Cox is the greatest of supporting actors.

[@hachman2660]

Awesome reaction as always. According to Wiktionary (an awesome source for unserious etymological research) "cretin" ultimately comes from Latin chrīstiānus (christian) through French, thought that might be interesting :). I had a great time in Athens last year, seeing the Parthenon was awesome.

[@bradleylawrence658]

It was narrated by Brian Cox - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cox_(actor)

[@CarlosRenfroe]

Congrats on 70k subs!

[@NoProtocol]

Thanks for supporting Carlos! I know you’ve been here for a while (: appreciate it

[@Xerrand]

You mentioned timeline perspective. Here is another weird one. Cleopatra, the Egyptian Pharoe, lived closer to our time now than she did to the time when the pyramids were built.

[@SimonJM]

Cretin and Cretan are not, to my knowledge linked - or pronounced in a similar way: Cret-in against Cree-tan. You made me pause at Phoenician and phonics though, so I had to have a look, but they do not seem to be linked (with Phoenician seeming to be, maybe, based on a Greek word for purple, a dye colour they got from Phoenicia or from the word for date trees/palms).

[@roerd]

Yes, Cretin is probably derived from the word Christ (in French). People were presumably exclaiming "Christ!" when seeing very sick people, and so the term was eventually used for the sick people themselves.

[@horatiodreamt]

The Odyssey is named for "Odysseus" aka Ulysses.

[@chrislc35]

its crazy to visit Greece, or many of these places. so idyllic and beautiful now , realising over thousands of years so many have died , through wars. But i guess you could say that for anywhere. Maybe just me who ponders this ... 🙂

[@boborappa]

This is a nice summary but it's a summary and quite out of date. Schliemann didn't actually find Troy. It was another amateur archaeologist called Frank Calvert; whose family owned the land. He was slowly excavating the site but lacked the finances to conduct an actual dig. Schleimann had the money; so they teamed up. Calvert wanted a slower more methodical dig; Schleimann didn't. If I remember right, he used the dynamite when Calvert was travelling away for a bit and destroyed the ACTUAL palace area of the site of Troy/Illion/Wilusa. His other find in Mycenea came from locals telling him where it was. Some of the structures was never fully covered and locals brought offerings in memory of the "kings of the past" Minoans aren't the peace loving hippies this depicts but it is a quick summary. The Minoans had an empire the encompessed the lower Aegean Sea and the first cities (Pylos, Athens, Mycenea, etc) where set up by them with fortifications. A find at Pylos, likely in the early transition from first landing to forts, showed a Minoan Warrior of some rank. He even had a piece of jewellery showing a Minoan killing non-minoan (likely proto-Greek) men; IT'S AMAZING in its detail, especially for its size. It's called the Pylos Combat Agate. Phonics and Phonetic are from Phoenician. Phoenician means purple also; due the purple dye from Tyre. Canaan (Bible) also means purple; Canaanites = Phoenicians/Carthaginians.

[@shotgundorothy]

Aristotle is probably the greatest mortal man that ever lived. He did everything. He was the real "jack of all trades".

[@darrellwaller6205]

"Cretin" was the first thing I thought of too. We are on the same page. I will do some research to see if there is a correlation. I'll get back to you if I find something.

[@NoProtocol]

I don’t believe there is a correlation that I could find (aside from the sound of the word). You’ll have to let me know if you find something Darrell!

[@EvieDoesYouTube]

@@NoProtocol Apparently it comes from an old Alpine word for Christian.

[@darrellwaller6205]

Apparently, cretin was first used in 1779 by the french to mean dwarf idiot. So no correlation to Crete the country.

[@stevereyyt]

I love that Yale course. Polis!

[@MellonVegan]

1:08 It's true. Cleopatra lived about 2k years ago and the pyramids were built roughly 2.5k years before that. The word cretin actually comes from the Alpine French version of the word Christian. For the origin of the Island's name, there seem to be a couple hypotheses. May be named after a mythical hero or be derived from the Luwian (an ancient Anatolian language) word for island or for "cutting, sliver" is what it says here. 🤷‍♂

[@lordofchaosinc.261]

Made a trip to the palace ruins of minos (Knossos) - sadly no minotaur - then took the boat to tourist-filled Santorin (Thera) where the volcano erupted. Can only recommend, great vacation spot. Also my neighbor made the same looking wooden trojan horse replica and put it in his garden lmao.

[@paganpoet3]

The power of the Hellenic language and it's Alphabet. 1957 I always wished to address this Assembly in Greek, but realized that it would have been indeed "Greek" to all present in this room. I found out, however, that I could make my address in Greek which would still be English to everybody. With your permission, Mr. Chairman, I shall do it now, using with the exception of articles and prepositions, only Greek words. Kyrie, I eulogize the archons of the Panethnic Numismatic Thesaurus and the Ecumenical Trapeza for the orthodoxy of their axioms, methods and policies, although there is an episode of cacophony of the Trapeza with Hellas. With enthusiasm we dialogue and synagonize at the synods of our didymous organizations in which polymorphous economic ideas and dogmas are analyzed and synthesized. Our critical problems such as the numismatic plethora generate some agony and melancholy. This phenomenon is characteristic of our epoch. But, to my thesis, we have the dynamism to program therapeutic practices as a prophylaxis from chaos and catastrophe. In parallel, a Panethnic unhypocritical economic synergy and harmonization in a democratic climate is basic. I apologize for my eccentric monologue. I emphasize my euharistia to you, Kyrie to the eugenic and generous American Ethnos and to the organizers and protagonists of his Amphictyony and the gastronomic symposia. 1959 Kyrie, it is Zeus' anathema on our epoch for the dynamism of our economies and the heresy of our economic methods and policies that we should agonize the Scylla of numismatic plethora and the Charybdis of economic anaemia. It is not my idiosyncrasy to be ironic or sarcastic, but my diagnosis would be that politicians are rather cryptoplethorists. Although they emphatically stigmatize numismatic plethora, they energize it through their tactics and practices. Our policies have to be based more on economic and less on political criteria. Our gnomon has to be a metron between political, strategic and philanthropic scopes. Political magic has always been anti-economic. In an epoch characterized by monopolies, oligopolies, monopsonies, monopolistic antagonism and polymorphous inelasticities, our policies have to be more orthological. But this should not be metamorphosed into plethorophobia, which is endemic among academic economists. Numismatic symmetry should not hyper-antagonize economic acme. A greater harmonization between the practices of the economic and numismatic archons is basic. Parallel to this, we have to synchronize and harmonize more and more our economic and numismatic policies panethnically. These scopes are more practicable now, when the prognostics of the political and economic barometer are halcyonic. The history of our didymus organizations in this sphere has been didactic and their gnostic practices will always be a tonic to the polyonymous and idiomorphous ethnical economies. The genesis of the programmed organization will dynamize these policies. Therefore, I sympathize, although not without criticism on one or two themes, with the apostles and the hierarchy of our organs in their zeal to program orthodox economic and numismatic policies, although I have some logomachy with them. I apologize for having tyrannized you with my Hellenic phraseology. In my epilogue, I emphasize my eulogy to the philoxenous autochthons of this cosmopolitan metropolis and my encomium to you, Kyrie, and the stenographers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophon_Zolotas

[@carlbernard7615]

Your videos are great, so refreshingly informative.

[@edigleico]

I very highly recommend historian Tom Holland's "Persian Fire". It's an amazing book on the Persian-Greek Wars!

[@fgialcgorge7392]

How does Brian Cox become a part of everything? I mean he has a great voice but dang, he shows up everywhere.