Why Did Ancient Greece Fall?

[@timlamiam]

Rome conquered Greece politically, but was conquered by Greece culturally. The Roman Empire survived as a Greek speaking empire for a millennium after the west fell.

[@Panagiotis05]

amen

[@ericcloud1023]

Yup, Latin was never able to overcome the lingua franca of Greek in the east, even Romans in the heights of their power taught themselves Greek, and wrote in Greek as much as Latin

[@TheMrgoodmanners]

Well said.

[@IliasPapastamatis-hg4ei]

best comment i've ever heard

[@obabas80]

One of the most powerful and great civilizations ever created. Everyone who lives in the west today lives the Greek cultural way of life.

[@djml5815]

Romans had a big impact of early European culture as well.

[@Panagiotis05]

@@djml5815 greeks had a huge impact of roman’s culture

[@redharrison894]

My god his so wrong! Ancient Greece was at it's peak between 1000 and 2500 BCE

[@ManlyServant]

gay,feminists,effeminates,literally everywhere,God help us,dont let us to fall just like what happen in ancient eastern world and ancient greece :(

[@hattorihaso2579]

No we dont

[@queldron]

Well, after the Greeks conquered the known world, returned to their old sport: Civil war.

[@vCLOWNSHOESv]

Greece was too divided to defeat Rome. Had they been unified they would have been powerful.

[@vangelisskia214]

"Not much needs to be said about the Greekness of ancient Macedonia: it is undeniable." Ian Worthington, "Philip II of Macedon", Yale University, 2008

[@hattorihaso2579]

Well he's wrong

[@nopipapadopoulou3633]

@@hattorihaso2579 Who are you to claim the opposite ?🤣🤣

[@vangelisskia214]

@@hattorihaso2579 You personal opinion is simply insignificant and meaningless, since the vast majority of expert scholars (historians, archeologists, linguists etc.) worldwide consider the ancient Macedonians as Greeks. "Macedon was an Ancient GREEK polity. THE MACEDONIANS WERE A GREEK TRIBE. HISTORIOGRAPHY AND SCHOLARSHIP AGREE that Alexander the Great WAS GREEK ." Hornblower 2008, pp. 55-58; Errington 1990, pp. 3-4; Fine 1983, pp. 607-08; Hall 2000, p. 64; Hammond 2001, p. 11; Jones 2001, p. 21; Osborne 2004, p. 127; Hammond 1989, pp. 12-13; Hammond 1993, p. 97; Starr 1991, pp. 260, 367; Toynbee 1981, p. 67; Worthington 2008, pp. 8, 219; Cawkwell 1978, p. 22; Perlman 1973, p. 78; Hamilton 1974, Chapter 2: The Macedonian Homeland, p. 23; Bryant 1996, p. 306; O'Brien 1994, p. 25. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great#cite_note-Macedonians-282

[@vangelisskia214]

@@hattorihaso2579 "The latest archaeological findings HAVE CONFIRMED that Macedonia took its name from a tribe of tall, GREEK-speaking people, the MAKEDNOI". Nigel Guy Wilson, Encyclopedia of Ancient Greece, Routledge, 2009, p.439: "The ANCIENT MACEDONIANS WERE GREEKS.THEIR LANGUAGE WAS GREEK to judge by their personal names, and by the names of the months of their calendar." - George Cawkwell, Emeritus Fellow,University College Oxford "The Macedonian people and their kings were of Greek stock, as their traditions and the scanty remains of their language combine to testify.” John Bagnell Bury, “A History of Greece to the Death of Alexander the Great”

[@hattorihaso2579]

@@vangelisskia214 hellenophilic propaganda the ancient greeks made sure we knew they where non greek barbarians but keep coping

[@vangelisskia214]

"Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit" - "Captured Greece has conquered its savage captor" Horace

[@mikemurphy9960]

Great content, been listening at work and home. Cheers from Canada.

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

Ancient Greece was perhaps the most beautiful Civilization that ever existed and now in 2022 I feel saddened that it never exists as in the modern era. Yet we still use some Greek symbols and the achievements of that era. Greece is and was the cradle of education and Civilization.

[@huncxo8566]

No it wasn’t😂 africa was better Greeks use to throw shit in their back yards

[@juandlugka]

You may not realize it but you are living in the peak of another great civilization just like the ones before us and it is slowly tumbling you will regret how ungrateful you are being hello ww3 hello the fall of America

[@juandlugka]

Greece was too divided to beat Rome just like we’re too divided to defeat China history repeats itself

[@MrPolandball]

Ancient Greece was nothing but a dystopian inhumane satanic run clown place.

[@massimosquecco8956]

This time I had to bookmark this video to watch it again & finally to grasp the meaning of all this convoluted history period. I've never understood much about it, except the beginnings ( the ridiculous absurd Peloponnesian wars) and the end ( the fall of Egypt and the Roman Empire origin). Once again thank you so much for the concise, still explanatory lecture. You are a real KZbin/History Treasure. If I 've found your site before I would be happier right now.

[@Jane-nc2fr]

The narrator is very articulate and has a great voice.

[@AntonioDimitriadis]

is not macedonia and greece but macedonian kingdom and city-states (thebes, athens, corinth, etc.) conflicts

[@vag_grig8105]

Macedonia was Greek, but it wasn't a member Greek city-states. However Macedon had all of the characteristics of a Greek city-state, for example the Language, Culture, Religion, People were Greek.

[@bigalsnow8199]

Mainland Greece never really accepted nor believed that Macedonians were truly Greeks. They were widely considered as backwards, uncivilized hillbillies or second class citizens who spoke a brand of Greek that was difficult to understand.

[@harris9375]

That was always the issue with greece civil war still now the country is divided in many ways. The True miracle is that this nation still exists...

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

C est u miracle que la Grece existe aujourdhui.

[@Evagelopoulos862]

Ancient Greece is immortal.

[@petersclafani4370]

The peloponesian war destroyed Greece. Never recovered.

[@bigalsnow8199]

The only times that Greece fought as one ...was against Persia and Ancient Troy...always clear victories. Rome should be thankful that Greece was divided when she came

[@PhillipMakropoulos]

you do know that that the Troyan war is a myth?

[@bigalsnow8199]

@@PhillipMakropoulos You are the ignorant one. If you read current articles on the matter you would know they actually Found the ruins of a city, exactly where Homer located it...and it had been burned to the ground. Furthermore ancient text ( Hittite I believe ) spoke of a powerful Greek king identified as Arggamemnon.

[@PhillipMakropoulos]

@@bigalsnow8199 well the ruins that were found had been burned more than once and there was none prove that the city was called Troy.You mean king Agamnemnon that lived 200-300 years before Homer* was born.Dude i am Greek we learn about true history from the day we born,now get ready for the next big suprise even Homer we dont know if he ever existed as an individual person probably they were some story tellers that had written poems-tales-myths and all that knownledge gathered into 2 large poems Iliada and Odyssey.Please if you need more info dont hesitate to ask me.

[@ΓιάννηςΧαρικαπολυς]

@@PhillipMakropoulos it’s remarkable how you tube commenters have superior intelligence that prove every world history university wrong. Well done 👏

[@PhillipMakropoulos]

@@ΓιάννηςΧαρικαπολυς i dont know what university you went pls sent me the links that prove me wrong

[@konstantinoskountousias3099]

I dont know if Rome invented the ''divide and conquer'' idea but they used it against Greece in the best way the could

[@obabas80]

Eh, that has always been the Achilles heel of Greece. We’re still fragmented and calling each other traitors and προδότες since ancient times. If all of the Ancient Greek world had united (southern Italy, Sicily, Ionia and other parts of Anatolia as well as mainland Greece and the islands), it would have crushed Rome, but it was not to be.

[@Michael_the_Drunkard]

@@obabas80 the Roman conquest was a good thing. There would have been no Greek speaking Roman Empire and no Constantinople without Roman rule. The Greeks liked Roman culture that much, that they would continue Roman legacy until 1453.

[@AntonioDimitriadis]

the territory north of ancient macedonia (macedonia prima) was named macedonia secunda or macedonia salutaris by the romans, presently is called north macedonia, only about half of this territory was conquered by phillip II, that leaves skopje in dardania's kingdom so stop falsifying greek history

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

The inhabitants of FYRO Vardarska banovina either Bulgarian or Albanian migrated to the Balkans centuries after Alexander the GReat was dead and they can't be related to the Macedonians or any other Greeks

[@AntonioDimitriadis]

the territory north of ancient macedonia (macedonia prima) was named macedonia secunda or macedonia salutaris by the romans, presently is called north macedonia, only about half of this territory was conquered by phillip II, that leaves skopje in dardania's kingdom so stop falsifying greek history

[@csabakis4214]

Arguably the single most influential culture for the whole history of mankind till today - are the Ancient Geeks ... eh ... I mean, Ancient Greeks! 😀

[@ΓιάννηςΧαρικαπολυς]

Lame

[@huncxo8566]

A ually the most influential culture is African culture

[@red_ashcroft]

What happened to Greece after the fall of the Roman Empire. How it transitioned through the middle ages and how it became, what it is today.

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

The Albanians and Bulgarians inhabiting FYRO Vardarska banovina are not related to the Macedonians or any other Greeks

[@electra1920]

In your dreams.... Always a gypsy you will be 😢

[@vegetabriefs2841]

Pyrrhus beat the Romans but lost a lot of money/ manpower doing so Thts where the term Pyrrhic victory originates

[@krunalpanchal6415]

Hinduism survives even after so much destruction we worship same gods and have same culture and rituals which were before

[@shakazulu6154]

You mean like drinking cow urine? 😂😂

[@maniacgr2617]

Greece never fell.

[@zunaidahmed3034]

Greece is the gold standard when it comes to Soft Power, Romans ironically became more like spiritual successors of Greeks by subduing Greeks.

[@Proud2bGreek1]

Because Rome knew how to play into the weaknesses of the Greeks, turning one against the other and it was a republic. Unlike Persia it was harder to realize the threat they posed. Also Rome had better military commanders than the Persians.

[@Sail-away]

According to history "ancient" Greece , wich wasn't a single country but a series of city states distributed all along the mediterranean and black sea between the balkans northern Africa, pontic steppe, southern italy and France, cyprus, Turkey etc etc, and again according to chronology of history it lasted at least 800 years not counting the arcaic period, if it failed or ended, well , it wasn't a bad run

[@ConstantieE]

The Hellenes themselves never called their country greece but Hellas. Also back in those team countries didnt exist. What was considered a ethnic group was their culture and common civilization

[@antoniopaveskovic1990]

Sorry, Sparta was never a part of The League of Corinth. Bad info there

[@jabronis33]

It was but not at first. You're partly right.

[@bigalsnow8199]

I don't believe that Sparta was ever actually a part of it. The league of Corinth was actually a front for Athenian expansion and while they originally asked Sparta to join Sparta while refusing to actually join the league offered support in spirit before rejecting even that.

[@ΑντώνηςΑντωνίου-ζ5χ]

Didn't fail. Evolved

[@bombasticbadassbrigade3552]

Greek disunity and in-fighting caused the fall of Greece to Rome. Similar to Carthage - had they backed Hannibal, there would not have been a 3rd Punic War...

[@ImSpun13]

Imaging a unified Greece with Athenian politics, a Spartan trained army, and a strong Macedonian leader. They would have been unstoppable. Hell, they might still be around today.

[@WarriorPoet01]

Saying “BCE” is like saying “orange colored juice” instead of just saying “orange juice”. BCE is still based on BC years, yes? So just say “BC”! 😂😂😂

[@SkywalkerPaul]

Americans say "horseback riding" instead of "horse riding"...

[@WarriorPoet01]

@@SkywalkerPaul The difference there is that the term “horseback riding” isn’t a modern, politically-correct contrivance.

[@soybi592]

Hi! I taught BCE and BC are different. I may be wrong but isn't BCE "Before Common Era" and BC "Before Christ" incorrect? Additionally, AD stands for "Anno Domini which means In the days of our Lord" right? I may be wrong, I just want clarifications on this. Thanks! :)

[@WarriorPoet01]

@@soybi592 You are correct concerning the meanings of the abbreviations. My point was that since the BCE date of an event is still based on BC, what (other than political correctness) is the point of it. 112 BCE = 112 BC 😀

[@jamesbedukodjograham5508]

Western Civilization owes a lot to Ancient Greece

[@mihail6446]

It's Hellenic not Grecian. Please use our correct name. Thanks

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

Do you get offended when people say Germany or Spain too?

[@HarryNaden-Caldwell]

Gun shots and background music is extremely distracting from the content.

[@optimus7prime480]

Hellas never fall only to glory go again

[@flameout12345]

It seems like history repeating itself

[@darkoanton5]

No cheese burgers or Pepsi.

[@nugsymalone1247]

The fact we are still constantly at war these days tells me just how primitive humans are, and have always been. Doesn't matter the things we have, build, or the culture. Humans are just fancy animals

[@nihil_hd1598]

ehm defendinf urself against invaders doesnt sounds ´´primitive´´ to me

[@RHR199X]

@@nihil_hd1598 yes it does

[@obi_Juan1]

Phillip II

[@stoikusu5084]

Because everyone was Jealous

[@riccardobater-james5396]

The general facts on this video can be wildly off

[@Wardner213]

As well as pronunciations...

[@viorelpiscanu9425]

In just two hundreds years Hellenic ( Aheeians) rose and fall... Why!? I think One of the main reason was they Never were united! That form of City states ( Polis) brought both positive aspects and negative ones too..Too many feuds among all these Polises... However remarcable is Over all Ancient Greece ( named by romans) is still today Cradle of Europe civilisation! ❤ A Gift from the Gods !

[@Dhmi0S]

A lot of pictures are out of context. Speaker says something while showing something completely different. Like searching for pictures in Google and throwing them. Would t be surprised to see a helicopter, a picture with napoleon, Hannibal, Charlemagne etc. in this video while talking about Athenian democracy.

[@hermanoguimaraes6343]

Bsically all their videos are like that

[@dinovass9822]

The ruins and what met Rome and Greece Hence the word philotimo

[@iloveganen]

so many names, got me all confused...

[@mishkosimonovski23]

Macedon was able to conquer Greece because it had mora fertile land, metal ore and were slightly brutish....in turn Romans conquered both of them for the same reasons, just on grander scale.

[@TheBizziniss]

Rome conquered Greece, but then Greece became Rome and remained Rome far longer than Rome controlled Greece.

[@TayoDrougas]

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[@ΒαγγεληςΝοτης]

If Greek world was united meaby the future of Europe was different....

[@mrsm5481]

Politics.

[@TheRichie213]

Too many rules and too much spending.

[@neo7811]

No , It was 100% the Greek priesthood that destroyed Ancient Greece

[@jeanbalie8204]

They had too many debts,it's classical Greek problem.

[@electra1920]

Look at your debts 😂

[@AMBBrr]

Troy

[@vanhattfield8292]

Mant people do not realize that Greece was very closely related to Humpty Dumpty and these kinds of things ran in the family. Although Greece did not have the "great" fall as experienced by Mr. Dumpty, the Greek "pretty good" fall was bound to happen from the start.

[@elef951]

Macedonia was also a greek state. What is this false history video?

[@stevenicholson7488]

Macedonia was not Greek, they were a mountainous warfare tribe that adopted and spread Greek culture. They had a dynastic ruler and never participated in Democracy. It's was a different culture all together.

[@elef951]

@@stevenicholson7488 sparta didnt have democracy also. Macedonians participated in olympic games so THEY ARE GREEK. Wake up

[@stevenicholson7488]

@@elef951 Macedon was a dynastic northern tribe, they spoke Macedonian, not Greek LOL. It's an entirely different culture LOL...

[@elef951]

@@stevenicholson7488 macedonia was a greek tribe. From their names to their culture and their language. Herodote was alexander teacher who was greek and considered non greeks barbarians,so how alexander anderstood greek; all macedonians participated in olympic games where only greeks could participated. Learn real history with real facts

[@stevenicholson7488]

@@elef951 Alexander was a Macedonian LOL... You are deeply confused. Macedon was a different culture group. They may have adopted and spread Greek culture, but they are no more Greek than the Romans. I advise you to stop reading modern propaganda. Is Macedon a Greek language? No it's not... Macedon annexed Athens... For centuries, the Mackednoi had little to do with southern Greece and the Greeks considered them barbarians. You have no read your history. This claim is further complicated in Herodotus by the fact that Alexander was known as the Philhellene (“friend of the Greeks”), an epithet applied to non-Greeks.

[@williamdodge4762]

Great video. That said, the phrase "Greece boasts the most significant architecture of the ancient world..." that you start your video with is most definitely untrue and a highly biased western view of things. The Egyptians and Arab states (among others) had equally significant (if not more important) far older architecture long before Greece ever rose to the height of its power.

[@nihil_hd1598]

arab states???arabs where nothing before islam and yes ägyptian was highly significant,no doubt

[@minihooperprod.8332]

Jesus Christ is lord and king 👑 and savior amen 🙏 😊

[@AB-gn5yl]

the greeks took most of that from the canaanites

[@stucco76]

Hellenic nation existed long before them..and we were never had contacts with them to take things..read history better

[@vreyesreyes6101]

Did ancient anything really exist, or did they make it look like it did?

[@obabas80]

Go to Athens one day and see with your own eyes if it existed.

[@panosxgrx5117]

stop seeing conspiracy everywhere. open your eyes

[@NikosReegas]

I guess the earth is flat,right?

[@AS_888_]

Greece did NOT grow in size under Alexander, Macedonia did. Alexander's conquest was Macedonian not Greek.

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

Macedonians were/are Greeks just like the Aetolians or the Acheans

[@stevenicholson7488]

@@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123 No. Completely different culture. That's why it's called Macedon and not Athens.

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

@@stevenicholson7488 🤦

[@electra1920]

Macedonia is Greece, illiterate

[@kenmasters2034]

Sure...what makes you sleep better, you brainwashed ιdιοτ.

[@sokollloshi9989]

What a nonsense! Name Greek or Greeks and Hallens naver existed on any old maps before 1821s!

[@stucco76]

Are you serious??Hellenic refers officially in Iliad and since you watched video ,Horace calls usGreece!!

[@kenmasters2034]

Sure...😂what makes you sleep better...

[@sokollloshi9989]

I sleep well, because i know the history!

[@kenmasters2034]

@@sokollloshi9989 sure you know🤣

[@Kennykosova]

This is all BS , Alexander the Great whipped out completely city states Athens and Thebs , he United his own people Dardanians Macedonians and Epirotes , his uncles and cousins Illyrians ,and concurred the world , Helenizem was spread long after his death from east Persia India Egypt even reached Balkans , DNA shows that south Balkans matches DNA in Egypt , and hellenizem in antiquity was a culture which many people and tribes belonged like Jews Egyptians Assyrians Persians and many other tribes , this guy has no idea what his talking about , at the end says Ancient Greek was not a unified country , there was no country’s then BS fairytale !

[@anxhelibegalli5529]

Phyrus and alexander were not greek. They were illyrias influenced by greek culture wich was years aheas of its time.

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

Yes we wuz

[@kenmasters2034]

Sure😂what makes you sleep better...

[@paulycoleman98]

One simple word: ROME

[@obabas80]

Rome and its culture were merely an unoriginal, cheap imitation of the Greeks.

[@gaoth88]

@@obabas80 but somehow succesful...

[@Kunumbah1]

@@gaoth88 Rome was the China of the ancient Mediterranean

[@gaoth88]

@@Kunumbah1 pretty much, Though long divided the empire will unite, long united, the empire will fall apart (about chinese dynasties)

[@nastenastevski8565]

The title should be,Why did ancient macedonia fall?

[@panosxgrx5117]

you are slav not makedonian. read you surname

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

Sasha alexandrovski makedonski vukefalovic

[@AntonioDimitriadis]

the territory north of ancient macedonia (macedonia prima) was named macedonia secunda or macedonia salutaris by the romans, presently is called north macedonia, only about half of this territory was conquered by phillip II, that leaves skopje in dardania's kingdom so stop falsifying greek history

[@kenmasters2034]

Sure😂what makes you sleep better... Isn't it funny that in every video that had to do with Greek history you spawn yourself only to get another nail in your propaganda coffin? Try harder next time...

[@generalconsensus2518]

Democracy is African. And the greatest architecture of the ancient world is in Africa.

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

😵

[@IrishCinnsealach]

😂😂 name the oldest democratic parliament in Africa

[@AS_888_]

Because Macedonia conquered it 🤣🤣🤣

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

*MACEDONIA® IS GREECE*

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

@@AS_888_ ok Sasha but *MACEDONIA® IS GREECE ONLY*

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

@@AS_888_ whatever my Bulgarian friend *MACEDONIA® IS GREECE ONLY*

[@AS_888_]

@@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123 whatever my Turkish friend

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

@@AS_888_ ...said a guy who posts the turkish flag lol *MACEDONIA® IS GREECE ONLY*

[@gornichevo]

Macedonia was not greek not democratic. The fall of ancient Greek city states happened when the Macedonian Kingdom conquered the Greek city states before conquering Persian Empire, Egypt etc. The Macedonians embraced and attempted to fuse all of the cultures they governed through intermarriage and respect for the those cultures. Just because the Greeks were the first to be subjugated does not make them Macedonians. Simple Stop the fake news history written in the western narrative of colonialism

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

...and then Alexander replied to Stanislav: Sasha alexandrovski makedonski vukefalovic *MACEDONIA® IS GREECE ONLY*

[@gornichevo]

@@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123 denial is a disease...your fake news is obvious.

[@gornichevo]

@@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123 MACEDONIA is GREECE only... Only 51%... Only since 1913... Never before that ever.

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

@@gornichevo denial is a disease. I agree with you on that one my Bulgarian- in -denial friend

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

@@gornichevo Also, you may not know it but I can inform you that *Macedonia® is Greece* centuries before your people migrated to the Balkans

[@TayoDrougas]

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