Norfolk Southern Old Fort Loops Hurricane Damage - PART 1

Norfolk Southern Old Fort Loops Hurricane Damage - PART 1 - Old Fort to Andrews Geyser

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@springguntunes 5 күн бұрын

I went back home a few weeks ago, about 100 miles east, and ran into a few friends. They asked how it was up here. I didn't have words. There is no way to verbalize it. I told them they had to see it for themselves. Very nice work. I thought the music was fitting. I'll go from here and search your other work. Thanks.

@tomt9543 Ай бұрын

Great job of filming a very challenging section of railroad to access! I hope you can continue on up the line on another video! Lots of damage already, but I’m really interested to see what’s left of the part beside Andrews Geyser that they heavily reworked a number of years ago. Thanks for all the work posting this!

@georgelodge6258 Ай бұрын

Soundtrack was Excellent. Most fitting. TY. I was really effected by the whole presentation!!

@railroadman32257 Ай бұрын

I worked for Southern, 6/65-8/78 and monthly I measured R&R on the unit trains. I've been over this line (and Saluda) at least 90 times and it hurts to see some of the best 19th century engineering laid to waste. I got to wonder if it is worthwhile for NS to rebuild this mess. There is no business between RidgeCrest and Old Fort. As a shareholder I hope they don't, seems like a waste of money, but as a railfan since the age of 2, I hope it is rebuilt, better than ever. Now 85, I'm retired 23 years from CSX.

@davidhurt6115 Ай бұрын

That's sad to see.

@tux_the_astronaut Ай бұрын

@@railroadman32257 my hope is that the state or NC railroad company provides funding since people have been wanting Amtrak service to ashville and latly NC has been getting pretty serious with passenger rail projects

@mshum538 25 күн бұрын

I measured R & R on the unit trains ?????

@railroadman32257 25 күн бұрын

@@mshum538 The as-delivered SilverSides gondolas were famous (or infamous) for their rocking back and forth tendency and starting around 1965 there were derailments of trains that had them. I hired on at the Test Department and after it was determined that a derailment of the YellowLead unit train was not caused by bridge deflection, i.e. sagging, and my boss had observed wheels lifting off the rails as a train passed, we knew something had to be done. So my assignment was to determine the cause and then our mechanical folks had to find a solution. The cause was the roughly 39 ft. spacing between the truck centers of the car, and the 39 ft. length of jointed rail. Around 15mph, this caused a resonance affect in which the car rocked further and further until sometimes it just tipped over taking more with it. The solution in the short run was snubbers (big shock absorbers, same function as those on your car) and center plate extension pads at a cost of about $1500 a car in 1965 dollars. But until welded rail was installed, we tested the coal trains on critical routes every 30 days by putting a gov't surplus gyroscope on the end of a car and with that measuring the rocking angle. Anything greater than 4 degrees off vertical was bad. So for some time, we tested the Belmont Train, Andover, VA to near Charlotte, NC by way of Ashevile & Saluda, and the Catawba train, Andover to near Statesville by way of Asheville & the Loops.

@mshum538 25 күн бұрын

@@railroadman32257 Having 40 years in the industry I remember having the same “ harmonic rocking “ with the 100 ton high cube covered hoppers on jointed rail on certain curvatures, which they were granted the name “ swinging sways “ …

@davestrains6816 Ай бұрын

Great shots. Gonna take years to recover. Thanks for sharing. Dave

@ronaldrondeau7870 21 күн бұрын

thanks very impressive with the msic mke more dramatic, hope it will be repaird

@MrSteelman335 14 күн бұрын

at the 4:10 mark, you can see a washout where a concrete wall is. The drone doesn't see it, but near the conccrete wall is a set of original western north carolina railroad stone stays that had been buried under the row a long time ago. they came from a quarry that was close to the loops.

@aarongrooms8881 18 күн бұрын

As the son of a Southern railway Daddy (rip C.R.Grooms) my eyes can't believe the destruction to the place my Dad and myself grew up. There on old hwy. 70 just between town and the geyser area,me and my cousins played on the banks of Mill Creek. And the last house on the right headed up the loops by that tressle,my Papaw built that house back in 1922 so I'm highly disturbed to see the places so close to my heart........destroyed. My uncle still lives on my Nana's place and I haven't seen him in years but glad to see my grandmother's place is still there. But the loops we were so proud of are now a memory.

@railroadvelocipedeproducti2020 Ай бұрын

😔😔 hope they’ll be able to fix it. I think they said it be a 3 month rebuild but will see.

@lucmarchand617 Ай бұрын

This huge job rebuilt take at least 24 weeks need lots upgrade.the washout was very serious.Thanks update.😮

@25vrd48 Ай бұрын

Very good video . Lots of work to get the railroad running again .

@tux_the_astronaut Ай бұрын

I know NS doesn’t use this section of track much anymore but hope that it gets rebuilt it be a shame to see ashville get cuts off from the rest of the state in terms of rail service and from ever being apart of the piedmont commuter rail

@Carolb66 Ай бұрын

Thank you, very intersting & beautiful made video. So sad i hope the railroad gets rebuilt.

@2025trainfanmanproductions Ай бұрын

Good job on the drone footage. Interestingly, repair work hasn’t started yet. Might be because the road is closed near Ridgecrest because of a washout. I don’t know what happened to the gravel road. If there is no repairs for a bit, then we can call the loops abandoned

@oldskoold22 Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@darlene4232 Ай бұрын

Thanks for doing this

@billloffler8637 Ай бұрын

It’s hard to believe 611 ran up there and all of those Belmont coal trains too. Sad to see, nice filming it.

@benschlechter Ай бұрын

Yes. Wonderful memories. Btw, there was a small washout on the BL line (which has since been closed) in TN near Bull's Gap.

@southernrrman Ай бұрын

Nice work. Looking forward to more.

@lukeharwell7392 Ай бұрын

Great video!

@tacticalllama67 Ай бұрын

Have you looked at the condition of the tracks from the trestle on the upper side to Paris Creek? (.Pisgah Springs on the NS marker).

@bryanmarshall8124 Ай бұрын

I am working on that next.

@NimrodScott Ай бұрын

A heartbreaking and memorable video of an area I know so well. We were trapped at a Bed & Breakfast between Old Fort and Ridgecrest due to road washouts and landslides. Five days after Helene hit we hiked out toward Ridgecrest leaving our cars behind. A month later we returned to retrieve our car after the road to Old Fort was repaired. We’ve hiked beside these rails for years and love the area. Thanks for shooting this unique look at this region. It will be sad if the rails are not repaired, but from a cost benefit analysis, they might just abandon it.

@benschlechter Ай бұрын

It is a heard breaking situation. However if I am not mistaken, there is a military contract with the railroad to keep the line open.

@daverussell1357 Ай бұрын

A very cool video. My only complaint is the soundtrack. Listening to what appears to be someone un-tuning and retuning a guitar is a little much. But I did enjoy your vid. 🙂🙂

@douglasashleigh4989 Ай бұрын

That's why there's a volume button. If someone decides to be a creator and take the time to make a video, then give them a pass on the audio. Would you rather hear Milli Vanilli? Obscene rap? Frosty the Snowman? Just turn it down

@bryanmarshall8124 Ай бұрын

Thank you for being honest. The music sucks on purpose.

@happyhome41 Ай бұрын

Would be good to know where this is, for those of us who are unfamiliar with the area.

@bryanmarshall8124 Ай бұрын

Ok I will add that in the description.

@happyhome41 Ай бұрын

@@bryanmarshall8124 And great video.

@railroadman32257 Ай бұрын

You can find it easily on Google Earth. Just search for Old Fort, NC and it will zoom in on the community. The railroad comes in from the east and exits toward the northwest. You can easily follow it all the way to Asheville. On the thought that it might not be rebuilt, I digitized the route off G.E. yesterday and plan to add it to my revised Clinchfield route in ORTS, i.e. from just east of ClinchCross to Asheville. It will surprise me if it is rebuilt, but if NC is serious about adding a state train to Asheville, then maybe the state will assist in some way. They did this when some revisions were made where the CSX "A" line crosses the old SAL line to the coast because they plan to add a passenger train from the coast to at least Selma & Raleigh. I worked on the signals for that route when I was employed by a signal contractor, before I retired the 2nd time.

@Greatdome99 Ай бұрын

Old Fort NC on Interstate 40 due east of Asheville.

@happyhome41 Ай бұрын

@@Greatdome99 Thank you

@davidconner1726 Ай бұрын

The peak water at the six minute mark must’ve been horrifying

@bigB6flyer Ай бұрын

Hoping that it gets repaired and reused as it once was again.

@anb7408 25 күн бұрын

I'm guessing they're not even going to bother rebuilding this? Doesn't look like they've even begun to yet. First Saluda grade, and now the Loops. Sad.

@deepspire 16 күн бұрын

This probably also ripped out the plumbing for Andrew’s Geyser.

@WBDE Ай бұрын

I didn't see any work at all going on on the railroad. Is the plan to abandon the railroad from Old Fort to Asheville?

@johnuhelski8613 Ай бұрын

I wonder , why bother with a rebuild ? No thru trains , only locals . Somebody please explain why NS would even consider this task ?? Great drone work BTW !!

@tux_the_astronaut Ай бұрын

@@johnuhelski8613 the only reason id see is to have as alternative route in the case another line gets blocked. And also the fact that its on one of Amtraks future routes to go to ashville but this damage kinda makes Amtraks future route here uncertain would probably require state/government support