Fixing A Lawnboy Mower That Won't Change Engine Speeds

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Thanks for watching. I needed to adjust the engine speed, on this engine but turns out
the design makes it quite difficult.
This video is meant as entertainment, always practice safety.

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@ramadinsookhoo6141
@ramadinsookhoo6141 Жыл бұрын
Hey bro what's up? I'll pass on owning a 2 stroke mower. It appears to be more troublesome once working on it yourself.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I understand the feeling.
@MikeJones-jr5hb
@MikeJones-jr5hb Жыл бұрын
Yep they’re a pain to work on. I have a tc 300 series that uses an air vein governor. If you can order a new spring, I suggest that you order one or lock down the throttle in rabbit speed & do away with the throttle cable
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
great advice
@bleach_drink_me
@bleach_drink_me Жыл бұрын
I'm a mechanic and the first step is always verify the complaint. It has nothing to do with if I trust the person or not.
@rickthelian2215
@rickthelian2215 Жыл бұрын
Totally different to the Victa 2 Strokes we have in Australia
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
that's what I've heard.
@2019FiveLiter
@2019FiveLiter Жыл бұрын
That knob on the air vane adjust the rpms by about 50 or so for each click. Clockwise to increase, counter clockwise to slow it down. Duraforces spec about 3000 rpms but that is too slow in my opinion. I own 2 of them and run them both about 3400 rpms.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you I appreciate the information
@64brew
@64brew Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@jonlambshead5115
@jonlambshead5115 Жыл бұрын
That Round Dial Is Able To Move To Adjust The Speed , You Should Be Able To Pull Up Or Push Down & Turn ( Not 100% Sure )The Round Bit & Turn It To Adjust The Speed . Either Left Or Right. It Allows More Air & Acceleration. It Adjusts The Governor Vain
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Jon Lambshead.
@jonlambshead5115
@jonlambshead5115 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel Let Us Know If U Fixed It By What I Said PLS
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I absolutely will.
@therandomman6647
@therandomman6647 Жыл бұрын
I've had some carb issues with my Duraforce too, by the way that ribbed wheel under the air vain can be spun independently of it to adjust the tension on the spring. This video couldn't have come out at a better time! I'm working on my Duraforce too lol Edit: I really should have watched a few seconds longer before commenting. I will post a link to a video in a separate comment that has some helpful info on the dial.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the help.
@christophermarshall5765
@christophermarshall5765 Жыл бұрын
Strange governor set up. Turning the adjuster either way should fix the problem.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
so for that's what I've heard.
@lukeWiz44
@lukeWiz44 Жыл бұрын
really unique mower. solid condition too.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Sure is!
@GuysPlayingWithTools
@GuysPlayingWithTools Жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how much hp I could tweak out of a 2 stroke that big
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
me too, some porting would wonders
@bleach_drink_me
@bleach_drink_me Жыл бұрын
I would like so see that.
@GuysPlayingWithTools
@GuysPlayingWithTools Жыл бұрын
@bleach_drink_me If i get my hands on one, I will, just for fun. 42cc 2 stroke chainsaws make over 3+ hp right out of the box. Bump the compression a bit, clean up the flows, free up the exhaust, bigger carb... now I need to think about something to put it on, maybe a go cart. 😁
@GuysPlayingWithTools
@GuysPlayingWithTools Жыл бұрын
@Home Garage I am going to shop around Dallas for a donor motor. This is a bad idea, that's my favorite kind of idea. 🤣
@bleach_drink_me
@bleach_drink_me Жыл бұрын
@@GuysPlayingWithTools hope you find one for reasonable price.
@ethanmiller3935
@ethanmiller3935 Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt mind haveing a 2 stroke mower, it would have to be older than that one to avoid all those plastic parts.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
very true
@999thenewman
@999thenewman Жыл бұрын
Your childhood trauma shows you still like these old mowers. It's ok.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Trauma build character, up to a point of course. But it does make us, what we are today.
@Jim-ie6uf
@Jim-ie6uf Жыл бұрын
As I recall, there is a procedure to “clock” the spring. I have a 1991 model, and have yet to figure it out satisfactorily.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Jim.
@vacmaster-uf5vk
@vacmaster-uf5vk Жыл бұрын
This job that u do is my dream and I watch you every day keep up these amazing videos
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
excellent, this type of work, can be very rewarding
@briangibson402
@briangibson402 Жыл бұрын
I just bought on e of these and way better than my POS Troy bilt that threw a rod.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
these definitely have their good points
@pattayperformance
@pattayperformance Жыл бұрын
I freakin hate these machines with a passion but I also can't deny the money that they bring all fixed up. I had one with a similar issue and I reached out to @KensSmallEngines here on youtube and he walked through about the adjusting carb via the knob. he sent me this video and look at the 2:48 mark kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6jMlKOwhtaBa68
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you I appreciate it!
@therandomman6647
@therandomman6647 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/faTagoyoeqt2jLs This is the video for the dial! Hope it helps!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@itsCopello
@itsCopello 5 ай бұрын
You can adjust the governor with the carb on by spinning the wheel at the bottom of the air vein arm. It's a good design.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 5 ай бұрын
thank you
@mr1pearl
@mr1pearl Жыл бұрын
As much of a pain as a Honda ! Nice save sir 👍
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it
@TecumsehRulesbcserk
@TecumsehRulesbcserk Жыл бұрын
Tecumseh and Suzuki definitely had much better designed 2 stroke engines compared to this, those engines do have governors on them like a 4 stroke and they aren’t any more difficult to adjust than one.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you for the information
@electroddxful
@electroddxful Жыл бұрын
I will pass on one of these🤣😂🤣
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
completely understand why.
@hotcakes5622
@hotcakes5622 20 сағат бұрын
HELP I WAS TOLD YOUR THE BEST! OLD lawnboy 2 cycle m series model 10591. Okay the mower will start on choke but choke must stay fully closed if not stalls. But even with choke on idles low stalls anyway any help ty
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 6 сағат бұрын
thanks for the compliment, if you don't want to service the carb, I would replace the carb.
@davidcoudriet8439
@davidcoudriet8439 Жыл бұрын
Wow. So many afraid of the unfamiliar...
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it's only natural
@WillsSmallEngines
@WillsSmallEngines Жыл бұрын
yes, I would want one especially after using my friend's old one this past summer, I thought it was way cooler than my 90s 4 cycle lawn boy.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
me too!
@louislandi938
@louislandi938 Жыл бұрын
No thank you. I’ll stick with Brigs.
@burntflowerzfallen
@burntflowerzfallen Жыл бұрын
Or Kohler or Honda or Kawasaki...anything but 2 stroke.
@hunter7476
@hunter7476 Жыл бұрын
@@burntflowerzfallen I would rather have a two stroke but the old flathead Briggs run forever two strokes no valves no camshafts no valve adjustments lighter weight simpler design
@burntflowerzfallen
@burntflowerzfallen Жыл бұрын
@@hunter7476 I don't see the appeal and having to mix gas and oil every time I need to cut my grass. Two strokes are loud and unnecessary in a lawn mowing application. Chainsaws on the other hand.....
@hunter7476
@hunter7476 Жыл бұрын
@@burntflowerzfallen alright I see your point sir honestly the two strokes and four stroke lawn mowers are fiskry quiet and if your wearing hearing protection what’s it matter the chainsaws scream and are loud besides with a two stroke there ain’t any oil changes either and really you can by two stroke fuel with out any ethanol for your equipment 2 stroke push mowers are obsolete not common and have been replaced by better engines but the simplicity of design and reliability is still very good I just think it’s a cool thing to see and they sound cool I wouldn’t want to use one all day though lol
@jay7264
@jay7264 Жыл бұрын
The splined wheel under the air vane turns and can be adjusted
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@getyourkicksagain
@getyourkicksagain Жыл бұрын
If it were mine, I'd do away with that overcomplicated vane setup and implement a simple friction lever for speed setting and separate homemade choke linkage, pressure washer style.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
ah nice idea.
@romper4444
@romper4444 4 ай бұрын
More trouble than it's worth, the air vane governor is super reliable, if you gotta change the spring once every few decades, so be it.
@brianking1138
@brianking1138 Жыл бұрын
In my 15 years of fixing and flipping mowers I still have not run across one of these.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
interesting, you mean you don't even see them for sale used?
@brianking1138
@brianking1138 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I have seen a couple for sale and they were expensive. I have never found one while out picking and no one has ever brought me one. I have never seen one in person.
@robertbaysinger1309
@robertbaysinger1309 Жыл бұрын
Picked up my first one this fall and had the same issue. For me it was that the spring had slipped out of the slot in the top of the governor blade. Worth checking while your in there.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Robert Baysinger.
@davidbrennan5
@davidbrennan5 Жыл бұрын
Dad had an old 2 stroke one, it lasted 30 years with minimal repairs, It didn't rev real high so the engine lasted on it.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nice!
@jonnysnipes3123
@jonnysnipes3123 Жыл бұрын
Older ones didn’t have high rpm’s
@jlillieify
@jlillieify 2 ай бұрын
For those who came here for carb spring adj: From manual: Note: Each “click” of the governor collar represents approximately 50-75 RPMs. 1. Turn the collar clockwise to increase spring tension (and engine RPMs) or counterclockwise to decrease spring tension and RPMs. (See Figure 39.) Preset the governor collar 3 or 4 clicks clockwise.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 ай бұрын
thank you for the information
@tjclarke4604
@tjclarke4604 Жыл бұрын
This is why I went to trade school and have been a certified OPE tech and master service technician for 30 years. OK, so no need whatsoever to remove the carb or mess with the governor spring. The dial on the throttle shaft is how you adjust engine speed. Use 2 fingers to turn it counter-clockwise to increase engine speed to 3300 RPM, turn it clockwise if speed is too high. 15 second fix, on the spot, boom just like that. I love your videos and all, but this one had me doing a real face palm.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nice, your career path is very envied!
@tjclarke4604
@tjclarke4604 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel Hardly, it's a crap job that busts your body and offers almost no reward. That reply was either sarcasm, or simply misplaced envy. I am glad I am nearly retired, although it'd be nice if I could still walk properly and still had feeling in my hands and wasn't hacking up phlegm from all the chemicals and grinder dust inhaled...
@MidnightPolaris800
@MidnightPolaris800 6 ай бұрын
@tjclarke4604 do you mean to loosen the bolt holding the throttle up on the handle then turn it and snug it up?
@tjclarke4604
@tjclarke4604 6 ай бұрын
@@MidnightPolaris800 No on top of the carb there is a little dial you can adjust with your fingers, it clicks, and you can tighten the governor pring (or lossen it) whichever you need to do.
@jazzfreek54
@jazzfreek54 5 ай бұрын
I believe it's CW to increase speed. 50 RPM per click. You want 2900 RPM +/- 300 RPM.
@tempusveritas8901
@tempusveritas8901 2 ай бұрын
I have same model only with Aluminum deck. I fabricated a larger pully to slow down the drive. That led to needing a longer belt. Legit complaint !!! To Fast in stock form.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 ай бұрын
I guess you didn't want to sacrifice engine speed? I would have lowered the running RPM.
@scrambler69-xk3kv
@scrambler69-xk3kv 5 ай бұрын
Wish I was tech. savvy so I could advertise My Silver Series self propelled two cycle Lawnboy mower in excellent condition. Just needs carb work. Have no use for it Just sits in my storage unit.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 5 ай бұрын
you could always try "word of mouth" to advertise it.
@Marty1959
@Marty1959 Жыл бұрын
No I don't think so I'll pass
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with that.
@jdtv...9134
@jdtv...9134 Жыл бұрын
Oh s*** this is a two-stroke? That would explain why I can't get the thing started I have one put gas in it and I'm like it wants to start but won't 🤣 I picked it up for $10 bag is in decent shape
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
oh man, glad you figured it out.
@kennethcolbert2921
@kennethcolbert2921 2 ай бұрын
You can buy wire for making spring by using a jig. Most model shops have this kind of wire in stock. Lots of way to bend wire.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 ай бұрын
thank you for the tip
@Pfdisme
@Pfdisme 4 ай бұрын
Turn the round dial below the air vain. One direction will increase idle speed, the other direction will decrease idle speed, you will feel the wheel clicking to different position, takes a bit of force. This can be done with engine running. Note: turning wheel while running moves vain . I.E when turning wheel and vain makes engine rev up, and you feel the wheel click to new positon, your actually turning idle speed down. The opposite is also true
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 4 ай бұрын
thank you very much for the information
@apatterson8128
@apatterson8128 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of this mower in particular. I just don’t like the way it sounds. That’s probably a dumb reason, I know. 🤷‍♀️ Thanks for your time, HG.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
not a problem, it's like comparing the sound of an RX8 to a comparable V8 car. Some just prefer one over the other. thank you A Patterson.
@ceejay6882
@ceejay6882 Жыл бұрын
Can anyone help me on this? I compression tested a warm briggs flathead mower with hand pull starts and it yeilds a lousy 60psi. However.. Using a drill to spin the flywheel, the compression gauge outputs 105psi. The mower seems to run fine but I like to take photos of the gauge for proof of it's condition when I sell it. Any help would be appreciated.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
your numbers are spot on, when comparing pull rope readings to drill readings. It shows the engine has some wear but is still enough to run.
@powertoolexpert6999
@powertoolexpert6999 Жыл бұрын
Good morning
@MrRom079
@MrRom079 Жыл бұрын
Good Afternoon
@andrewv4491
@andrewv4491 Жыл бұрын
Good afternoin
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
morning!
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 Жыл бұрын
I'd take what I could get and be glad to get it! Briggs made those 6+ horse I/C 2-cycles that had to be the toughest rig anywhere. Thanks and you'll get it! BLESSINGS!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@keithbeckner1853
@keithbeckner1853 Ай бұрын
You don't have to take. Carb off and bend spring. The round wheel can turn 1 click at a time to increase idle speed or turn other way to decrease idle
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Ай бұрын
thank you for that information
@patrickhughes7384
@patrickhughes7384 Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a 10324 and im in need of the speed adjustment lever you called slide and im having trouble locating one, do you know where i can get one and would you happen to know the part number? Thanks in advance
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
here's link and it looks like you have to buy the whole thing. amzn.to/44x0YZa
@paulburns3788
@paulburns3788 Жыл бұрын
Hello Home garage Happy New Year how was your Christmas I think you should get a new spring to put on the carb
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul Burns, as far as the spring, that would be a great idea, the problem is, I'm not sure, if they sell it individually
@xirisAB
@xirisAB 7 ай бұрын
You're playing on hard mode. Apparently, you can turn the plastic gear to adjust the position of the air vein.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 6 ай бұрын
yes, that's what some of mentioned already. At least I'll know next time. thanks again!
@lindaosborne1107
@lindaosborne1107 Жыл бұрын
Sadly Lawn Boy missed the mark. I do like good two strokes. Toro and Jacobson made good along with some other brands.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@bradbarefoot2986
@bradbarefoot2986 Жыл бұрын
Never owned a Lawn Boy, But had a #16785 Toro Two Cycle that used the Suzuki two-cycle, bullet proof engine. Was a bad day when the fed/gov mandate to cycle mowers out of business. Had I been thinking I'd bought up a couple when they were available so I'd have one today to use.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I understand how you feel.
@mikemorgan5015
@mikemorgan5015 Жыл бұрын
The federal government never mandated 2 strokes go away. They mandated emission standards that were only going to get more stringent over time. Toro and other manufacturers didn't want to spend millions in R&D to tackle just how to make burning your engine lubricant a clean process. Which is not a simple problem to solve. It's a lawn mower, not the space shuttle after all and the mower market is very competitive. But now, I see folks spending $1000 on battery powered walk behinds. Never would have believed that. I have several of these LB 2 strokes that go back to the mid 1960s. They still run great.
@sticustom
@sticustom Жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen a 3 wheeled mower that looks like it’s been in a car crash. No I wouldn’t want that mower.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
lol.. It's got 4 wheels the 4th is offset for better grass discharge.
@sticustom
@sticustom Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel I’m going blind 😂😂😂😂😂
@tyroneclarke1666
@tyroneclarke1666 Жыл бұрын
Worst mower I’ve seen. Crappy carb and off set wheels. 🇦🇺
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
it does make things kind of strange to work on.
@qwertykeyboard5901
@qwertykeyboard5901 Жыл бұрын
Ngl, I would've expected a fan based governor (the spinning dual flag thing in music boxes) on the engine shaft.
@ignaciovillagomez4645
@ignaciovillagomez4645 4 ай бұрын
Adjust speed at the wheel on top of spring 3 or for clicks at the time
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 4 ай бұрын
thank you !
@brettmastrangelo5371
@brettmastrangelo5371 Жыл бұрын
I would adjust the drive cable to slow it down and keep the engine rpm the same.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
hmm.. interesting idea!
@GGaievski
@GGaievski Жыл бұрын
mr garage, can you help me find out what's wrong with my mower? i have a ride on mower with a briggs model 28 engine, 12.5hp, it simply does not want to start 100% of the times, most of the times it just spins and shoot flames through the carb, but does not start, the flywheel key is intact, i checked like 40 times and i can't find what's the problem, i also honed the cylinder and put new rings but the issue persists
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
sure, please check the valve lash
@GGaievski
@GGaievski Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel yeah so it's about 0.80mm for the 2 valves, the piston rings are about the same gap, is that ok for a lawnmower engine?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
sounds like it's too much. have you looked up the specs for the valve lash for that engine?
@GGaievski
@GGaievski Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel actually i couldn't find a manual anywhere
@mikehrdlicka8635
@mikehrdlicka8635 11 ай бұрын
The dial adjust the spring tension turn it to increase/decrease speed
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 11 ай бұрын
thank you!
@ognjensavic2867
@ognjensavic2867 Жыл бұрын
Dude i seen the supra is it yours?
@24space310
@24space310 6 ай бұрын
Lawnboy. Never seen one that looks like that.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 6 ай бұрын
these are special in my book
@adammosher1115
@adammosher1115 Жыл бұрын
Nope I hate lawn boy 2 cycle mowers had a old one and did everything that I had to do it exploded the head in pieces and it was just a the shop 2 days prior for low rpm
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
hmm.. never heard of that happening before, sorry to hear about that.
@adammosher1115
@adammosher1115 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel had to be defective or a bad casting and what they turned up the rpm it blew apart
@rickthelian2215
@rickthelian2215 Жыл бұрын
Two stroke engines have more torque, great I. High or wet grass😊
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Great point!
@gregmoore8475
@gregmoore8475 3 ай бұрын
Does the filter need to be dry or soaked in oil?
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 3 ай бұрын
all foam air filters need to have oil in them.
@jakecrib9971
@jakecrib9971 3 ай бұрын
I love Lawn Boy 2 stroke mowers. I've been using them for about 40 years. The one I have now I bought new in 2003 for $350. It is wonderful. It starts easily after sitting over the winter months, 1-2 pulls. It's 6.5 hp engine is very powerful and easily plows throught the highest, toughest grass, i.e., Bahaia. Also, no oil changing. Just mix oil with gas and that's all the lubrication the engine needs. Besides all that, mine is one of those with an aluminum deck, light weight and no rusting out. I love my Lawn Boy and am sad that they were bought out by Toro, who ruined them. The 4 stroke versions with the stamped out steel decks were garbage.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 2 ай бұрын
yes the new ones are a different animal compared to the 2 strokes from 25 years ago. Keep it going and you'll enjoy it for another dozen years!
@copperheaddesigns672
@copperheaddesigns672 Жыл бұрын
hey i need some help i have a 2stroke lawn boy im fixing right now and i put a new carburator on it and when you change the speed from choke to any other speed it stalls and you can only move the throttle lever a couple centimeters before it stalls (the throttle valve on the carb works like it should when you change speed)
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I see, more thank likely you'll need to adjust the knarled ring on top of the carb, either that you'll need to confirm the the throttle and the slide on the back side of the air box is moving at its should. This part is the worst thing about the 2 stroke lawn boys.
@copperheaddesigns672
@copperheaddesigns672 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel i messed with it and now it starts on choke and runs fast but when you move it to slow it stays on slow and sometimes when you move it to fast it revs up for a second then comes back to idle
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
not good, I feel for you, this is the trickiest part of working on these machines.
@noidle22
@noidle22 Жыл бұрын
Looks about as painful as working on Victa 2 strokes that we have in Australia, so much plastic and o-rings used in them, they have air leaks and revving issues all the time. I think they only good 2 stroke that was ever used on lawn mowers is the Suzuki 120cc, we have them on Rover mowers here but they were used on Toro mowers in the USA as well.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
ah man I miss a good Suzuki 2 stroke.
@patrickpoulard24
@patrickpoulard24 Жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that a little spring would cause so much trouble. 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️ #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I know right.
@GrowingLittleCountryhomestead
@GrowingLittleCountryhomestead Жыл бұрын
I don’t know anything about this problem but still enjoyed watch this video.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your time either way. thank you Growing Little Country homestead.
@josephmeadows8521
@josephmeadows8521 Жыл бұрын
Love it, keep up the great work😇
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will do!
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 Жыл бұрын
No 😁 No reply needed just a statement.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Curiosity
@doug2700
@doug2700 Жыл бұрын
I can see why those mowers are no longer made.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
makes sense doesn't it.
@loopylucas
@loopylucas Жыл бұрын
I have a very similar issue mine won’t crank high on hot idle but the idle goes in and out on cold start and the stop won’t even,work I have to turn off the fuel to turn it off
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
interesting issue. Have you tried looking into it yet?
@loopylucas
@loopylucas Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel tried adjusting the idle multiple times and tried adjusting the lever spot and try doing a full service and nothing yet and I’m getting flustered cause I got 2 other projects to do aswell(my blowers)
@jazzfreek54
@jazzfreek54 5 ай бұрын
2 problems. Follow line fron safety start bracket. It grounds spark to shut off mower. Clean jets and check governor spring.
@romper4444
@romper4444 4 ай бұрын
Had that mower since new early 90's, worked in a landscaping business for 20yrs, never had a single problem except a front wheel, and one of gears in tranny finally went. Bought a temporary 1 speed trans off eBay until i can find the proper one. Which is what I'm looking for now. Point is, best mower you will ever own. If ya get a chance to buy one and it's in decent shape, don't hesitate. Working on it once or twice over a 25yr span is well worth the trade off.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 4 ай бұрын
yes these are fantastic mowers to use commercially just so long as you have some spare parts. Thank you!
@Patrick4959
@Patrick4959 Жыл бұрын
yep i would not mind using one if i lived over there or working on them and if i needed to replace the carburetor aka carby i would simply do it as it,s easier after doing a good thoro cleaning and carefully re-assembling etc.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
these are getting hard to find but they're definitely worth a shot. thank you Patrick Stapleton!
@CJ-rj9tg
@CJ-rj9tg Жыл бұрын
Well, here coming to the 2023 end of season. Neighbor gave up on his 10323 and handed off to me. Problem was that famous hunting and surging. Solution after 2 yrs in storage. Ever so lightly drilled the carb main jet more just like a honing. Perfect now 👍🏼 Many out there said they did everthing to no success. Free it's good.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nice work!
@vincentpruyn
@vincentpruyn Жыл бұрын
I have a few mower can you fix them for me
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
unfortunately not right now.
@sui135
@sui135 Жыл бұрын
The plastic gear knob below the air vane sail can be turn either direction to adjust the throttle spring. Thus control the engine speed. I heard the lawnboy engine can run at 4000rpm. The two stroke engine always runs faster. I did rebuilt one that they have a steel sleeve cylinder while the Briggs and Stratton four stroke flat head is aluminum cylinder. The old lawnboy have needle bearing on the crankshaft . That's why the old lawnboy two stroke run faster yet last .
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you for letting me know, I appreciate it
@Navalbird_48
@Navalbird_48 Жыл бұрын
I know that this is a lawn mower video, but would you do a spark plug wire replacement on a generac XT8000EFI
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
if I can find one, I most certainly will.
@RussellBooth1977
@RussellBooth1977 Жыл бұрын
I have an Australian built Victa 2 stroke lawnmower which l.foumd on the side of the road a few years ago & it over revs because the governor relies on crankcase vacuum & the crankcase O rings & seals leak air so it Only runs at full speed & stop speed !
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
wow nice diagnosis
@mattwickert736
@mattwickert736 Жыл бұрын
I'd have left it alone and listed that only runs on high speed. I've had a couple of those come through, 1 sold for parts and 1 went right to the scrap yard. Around here, they don't sell, so aren't worth the time and parts to fix them. Good luck!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
makes sense
@bradleyphillips204
@bradleyphillips204 Жыл бұрын
I had a 10323. Good mower. Needed cables and i also had a couple other duraforce gold series mowers so I ended up selling it rather than throw more money at it.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with that, thank you for sharing
@danielgilstrap
@danielgilstrap Жыл бұрын
Hey got a question for you and the people in the comments. I'm about done with my small engine class and going to start a small business. What tools should I need to acquire first to start off successful
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Danial Gilstrap for the question. For me, I would get a large tool set. Something in the 200 piece set. Also the brand, doesn't matter. After that, a good variety of power tools, impacts, grinders, and it doesn't matter if you go air or battery powered. Then focus on all diagnostic tools like compression tester, leak down testers, spark, and for good measure an ultrasonic cleaner.
@jasonhilliker492
@jasonhilliker492 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the 2-stroke engine when I was younger, but we didn't do any of the repairs to it. So I have no idea how to fix this one.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
makes sense
@therandomman6647
@therandomman6647 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing some brainstorming on how to get aftermarket lawn boy duraforce carburetors to work because I'm having issues with mine, I think I finally cracked it! My old carb dumped gas into the engine and on the deck, and the new one isn't jetting right. The plan is to take the jets from the old one and swap it on the new one. Maybe this is me being stubborn though, haha
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
let me know how it works out
@therandomman6647
@therandomman6647 Жыл бұрын
@Home Garage it didn't work, I just put the old carburetor on with the needle from the new one and it works great!
@bertbuchanan4198
@bertbuchanan4198 Жыл бұрын
You can buy a replacement spring. They are still available. I replaced one a few years ago.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you Bert Buchanan
@richardLettow
@richardLettow 6 ай бұрын
Where is air filter
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 6 ай бұрын
the air filter is the foam piece
@stevep5681
@stevep5681 Жыл бұрын
make some long studs and thread them into the side and then stack the gsk, plate, and carb on. take out one at a time and replace with the bolts
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
unfortunately with the design of the governor flap, and clearances, studs won't work but it's a good idea.
@williamsnow1531
@williamsnow1531 Жыл бұрын
The Lawnboy mowers are built like tanks. They just keep on going.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
you're right about that.
@ENGINERESCUE86
@ENGINERESCUE86 Жыл бұрын
I love my 2 stroke lawn boys. I have a 7268 I'm planning to rebuild. i was able to get it running, but it started slowing down and died. Would not restart. Did a compression test and only got maybe 60. I have a NOS piston, rings, and seals for it, The carb kit was done already.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Very nice, hopefully the cylinder wall is still good.
@ENGINERESCUE86
@ENGINERESCUE86 Жыл бұрын
@HomeGaragechannel if not I do have another f series!
@richardLettow
@richardLettow 6 ай бұрын
Air filter
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel 6 ай бұрын
what about it?
@hillonwheels8838
@hillonwheels8838 Жыл бұрын
I love 2 smokes and this system seems a bit complex but when it works life is great and when it doesn't you get this pain. If this was mine and I was trying to fix it I think I would just put a manual throttle control on the handle.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
that's a good idea.
@mikemorgan5015
@mikemorgan5015 Жыл бұрын
The throttle won't work that way. All engines that encounter varying loads MUST have a governor of some kind to maintain rpm at varying loads. The governor on these is the air vane. Higher RPM sends more airflow over the vane closing the throttle, slower speed means less air over the vane and the spring closes the throttle. If you hard connected the throttle cable to the throttle plate, everything would seem fine until you encounter even the slightest load on the engine and it would bog down until the load goes away and it would eventually go back to the previous no load rpm.
@wildefox1478
@wildefox1478 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I do like the old 2 stroke Lawn Boys but they can be a pain to work on because of the carb and governor design.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Great point! thank you WildeFox.
@jonnysnipes3123
@jonnysnipes3123 Жыл бұрын
Easiest things to work on
@erocker78
@erocker78 Жыл бұрын
I would love to have an old lawn boy if it was self propelled and had an aluminum deck and came with a chute and a bag. Just for the nostalgia really. I used to used these from time to time when I was a kid working for my neighbor. I always found lawn boys to be cool mainly because of the 2 stroke engine. I never really cared for the right front wheel being off set or the bag set up on the side. It made the mower bulky and hard to maneuver and cut in tight spaces. While I love 2 strokes these lawn boys seemed to lack a little bit power compared to the 4 strokes when it came to cutting the really thick tall grass. Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I remember.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes that reminds me I need to get mine going
@erocker78
@erocker78 Жыл бұрын
@HomeGaragechannel I also remember that they were not that easy to start when cold. I had two neighbors, who both owned a couple of lawn boys actually. They always took at least a few pulls to get started when cold.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Ай бұрын
The offset front wheel was an anti-scallop design for when going over bumps.
@jonnysnipes3123
@jonnysnipes3123 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these and 4 other older models. They were so easy to repair but mine have never broken yet. The carbs are literally so easy to rebuild and the parts for them are still available and cheap
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
yes these are very good engines indeed. too bad there's so few left.
@jonnysnipes3123
@jonnysnipes3123 Жыл бұрын
@@HomeGaragechannel not for me, there’s a place that I go to that has a whole variety of selections who strictly only sell 2 cycle lawnboys. They take junk ones and restore them back to show room condition. I can restore certain things but the machines that they use and the space they have to powder coat the frames is the only reason I’ll buy from them because you want automotive type paint on those fiberglass or aluminum decks. Regular krylon paint peels after a while
@captainboost
@captainboost Жыл бұрын
Great video my friend!
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visit
@LawnmowerMaster
@LawnmowerMaster Жыл бұрын
I have the same machine only has a fuel tank leak any ideas? All ready tried Soldering but runs well.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
is it a "visible" leak, or does the just disappear from the tank? if so the carb's needle and seat are the problem.
@LawnmowerMaster
@LawnmowerMaster Жыл бұрын
It is visible from the tank. checked carb
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
sure, a crack, bad fuel line, or there's a break in the tank, along a seem.
@LawnboyR7070
@LawnboyR7070 Жыл бұрын
Love these mowers.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
me too
@LawnboyR7070
@LawnboyR7070 Жыл бұрын
Jon3800’s favorite
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
if I recall they are, he seem so enjoy it.
@kkc3009
@kkc3009 Жыл бұрын
Why do people think this brand is so great? I'm no expert with them but from most of the models I've seen they seem to be pieces of 💩. I was given a no spark silver series with bag. It was a decent mower but I didn't need it so I sold it. Different doesn't necessarily mean better and these things are just funky.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you K Kc.
@nicklutz61
@nicklutz61 Жыл бұрын
Honda 4 stroke OHC fanboy here. Two stroke engines are very finicky when it comes to adjustments and keeping constant RPM. Having to deal with mixed oil/gas is also an additional chore. Honda 4 stroke engine mowers seem to fall apart all around the engine, generally wheels, drive belts/mechanisms, cables which IMHO seem easier to deal with. Love these videos and the thought process used to repair the equipment. Keep up the excellent work.
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
thank you for the information
@SevenSixTwo2012
@SevenSixTwo2012 Жыл бұрын
Eliminator Performance has a great video on how to adjust these, it's called "How to Adjust RPM on a Lawnboy". As they get older, they also need the idle jet drilled out a little larger with a micro drill bit #78 (0.016") for a smoother idle.
@donaldandersen8043
@donaldandersen8043 3 ай бұрын
My Lawnboy started hunting (loping) all of a sudden, not over time. At all speeds, not just idle. I thought maybe the gaskets were leaking air but maybe I should try the drill.
@petenikolic5244
@petenikolic5244 Жыл бұрын
First thing i would do is scrap all the govenor stuff and make the carb 100% manual choke lever and throttle lever .
@HomeGaragechannel
@HomeGaragechannel Жыл бұрын
that's a good idea.
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