Norma MHP 9mm | Not the best stuff…

This stuff has been out for awhile and I found some on clearance. Not the most consistent stuff. I recommend something better for EDC uses.

[@2amichaelj]

These were on clearance again, $6.99 a box at PSA. To me, these are like the non nickel plated Sig Sauer V-Crowns JHPs. I found those for around $0.35 a round and they perform relatively well but not as good a Speer 124 +P JHP Gold Dots or even 115-135 grain Critical Defense/Dutys at $1+ a round. The difference is you can actually practice with this JHP like the Sig V-Crowns I also use. It may not perform the absolute best compared to others on the market BUT you can actually buy a lot and see how reliable they are.

[@kevinclark8736]

Not sure why everyone thinks 12 to 11 inches of penetration is not acceptable. MHP test exceeds Speer Gold dot specs.

[@jlam3927]

That's when it fails to expand. Which is frequently when shot through clothing. You'll be OK as long as your attacker has no clothes on.

[@noirsuit1427]

@@jlam3927haven’t watched the video yet, but I have watched many others. I can say clothing doesn’t seem to dictate performance. Drywall, and windshields however make the bullet tumble with no expansion.

[@jlam3927]

@@noirsuit1427 Clothing is known to clog hollow points. That's why Hornady puts polymer in there's Etc.

[@-JohnnyRingo-]

Lol mine says out of a 4" test barrel and says assembled in the US with US and foreign components.

[@jodygage]

100% false, most tests through denim have shown at minimum partial expansion and in most cases no difference in full expansion. even a partial expansion will dump enough energy to put down a target and is ideal whenever in a CCW because it'll dump that energy in first few inches and not into to guy behind the assailant. @@jlam3927

[@ericbergfield6451]

I've seen these preform just fine in gel out of a 3" barrel, so these rounds still function at 1,100fps. As regards to the depth of penetration, I'd say 10.5" is decent considering how large it expands. This is a load that doesn't fill every role, just know what you're looking for out of your defensive ammo.

[@jamesb3092]

Agreed 100%. My recommendation for penetration is, do not buy light rounds and expect 16+” of penetration. Of course there’s some exceptions to this, like the Liberty Civil Defense 50 Gr ammo but that ammo is >2000 fps. As he said, there’s no single ammo that checks all the boxes, any self defense round is better than carrying fmj though. 👍

[@nunzionapoli6325]

KZbin is full of Karens. This is one of them. This stuff is on sale because people are buying the cheapest and whatever they can afford. This is actually cheaper than most fmj. Price gouging is extreme these days.

[@k3vinyAng]

Just ordered a few box from psa. I think for the price, it really is not bad at all. Its better than carrying fmj’s given fmjs now days are more expensive than this brand. They expand pretty consistently in the other videos. So im sold.

[@Hebrews10_26]

I just got some from psa yesterday. They sent that email and I jumped on it

[@PaEMT_FF9]

$.40 a round ($7.99/box 20) right now on Palmetto. Rough to pass up on.

[@k3vinyAng]

@@PaEMT_FF9 seriously, not a bad idea just to stock up on at all.

[@Bedbassandbeyond]

​@@PaEMT_FF9plus freee shipping. Wow.

[@IR8GRANDSRT8]

@@PaEMT_FF9I just grabbed 15 boxes. Just in case ammo at a good price

[@meatballs2849]

So.. did you try them out? Did I miss the part where you did?

[@jimib12]

Nah, he just “thinks” stuff.

[@erik_the_meh]

Exactly. Speculation at its finest....

[@sixfteightinguy]

PSA is selling this for 7.99 & free shipping when buying 10 & more. Since you paid 9.99, is it worth it at this price?

[@morganyates6598]

$7.99- $8.99 A BOX AT PALMETTO RIGHT NOW! seriously by them cheap and stack them deep!! These are decent rounds and unbeatable at $8 a box! Considering the times, inflation and the current administration..I would buy them if you can..yeah there's better..certainly not at .40 cents a round. 100% recommend!

[@Bigshoots723]

6.99 a box today !

[@a.j.s.8049]

As of 30 April 2024 $6.99 a box from PSA.

[@jaredhighlands4604]

Ordered 15 boxes at 7.99 with free shipping from psa a few mins ago. Figure 8 buck cant lose that much

[@unholydudetx]

How do you like it?

[@jaredhighlands4604]

@@unholydudetx lol haven't tried them yet are sitting in the safe for a time when I may need them.

[@jaredhighlands4604]

Think I ordered 16 not 15 also. May take a box out next time I go to see how it goes

[@jaredhighlands4604]

@unholydudetx shot half a box me and another guy at the range no jam up out of the 10 shot may go again for the rest of the box 5o see if any jams. Recoil is pretty get compared to other hollow points out there for sure. For 8$ with free shipping from psa is defly worth a buy may buy another 15 boxes just to have more stockpiles while they are on clearance.

[@jaredhighlands4604]

Actually just ordered another 10 boxes since they just showed up again on sale for 8 to stockpile a lil more. Have smaller boxes now prolly done with 30-40 some boxes

[@Rww930]

I have shot just over 1000 rounds with no issues whatsoever. No scientific tests but it put a hole in everything I shot with it. Used a glock and a smith 380 ez performance. Zero issues.

[@aandyherr817]

I just need some fucking hollowpoints lol! All I can find locally is shit discounts or none at all, or worse FMJ which isn't what I need for work. We're all hurting asap for ammunition, I think this will do fine. I dont plan on shooting 40 people this week, the likelyhood it fails is so small... better chance of getting struck by a rock falling from the sky, and I dont wear a hard-hat because that's a possibility. All in all, mixed reviews, probably could be better.

[@PaEMT_FF9]

@@aandyherr817 If still looking, $.40/round at Palmetto presently.

[@chriscorbett9105]

My issue with these rounds are that they jam in ALL of my double stack magazines. Both brand name Glock magazines, as well as my stock SCCY magazines both have issues with the extra length of these rounds. I did, however, have success with my single stack 10 round Glock magazines. No issues there. I ran several magazines this morning to verify that the single stack mags functioned correctly, and they did so flawlessly.

[@marcusgoodwin2772]

They function well In my Springfield xdm elite 22rd mag as well as my 35rd mag

[@marcusgoodwin2772]

But I wouldn't use these for a edc defense rounds from the reviews I've seen

[@chriscorbett9105]

As an update, I did finally try shooting these through the double stack mags mentioned in my previous comment and as Marcus says they did function well. I imagine the jolt from discharging the weapon was enough to get the rounds unstuck. I had zero failures to fire in both a stock 17 round Glock mag as well as the same performance from an additional 21 round Magpul magazine that I had just got right before shoot.

[@NortheastSurvival911]

I have these in a full-size Beretta 92fs double stack. I do not have that problem at all I never have with this ammo. I have fired I don't know if I had to guess accurately I would say right around 130 rounds of this out of my Beretta. Not one jam not one failure to feed no failure to eject absolutely nothing. Perfect expansion every single time unless it's hitting a hard barrier and then it doesn't expand but it definitely mushrooms.

[@chriscorbett9105]

@@NortheastSurvival911 Too bad I dont have a Beretta! As I mentioned the round cycle just fine, but none the less they still have issues while loading the double stack magazines. It does not inspire confidence at all.

[@gdmofo]

Norma is owned by ruag of Germany so they produce ammunition in multiple countries including Sweden

[@Anthony-sd9yz]

Great ammo great price! Enough said!!

[@MA-lq6eb]

Thnx 4 sharing!👍 Did u get these local or OL & where please? At 45cents/rnd for MHP..that's a good deal. I've seen valid impressive reviews of it expanding fully in BG at 10"-12" from a 4" barrel. I usually don't care where ammo is made (for crying out loud people were stocking up on Russian steel case ammo) as long as it works. So decent rnds from Hungary instead of Sweden does not bother me in the least. Also most speeds listed on the box are at optimal barrel lengths...Alot use Rifle length projection speeds & not 6" pistol barrel lengths..so that's not a prob.

[@DaClosetGoblin]

Palmetto State Armory has them on clearance at the moment

[@Drknow-mx1fj]

This ammo does work even out of a 3” barrel expands well but to each his own just like anything in life we’re adults so how with what your feel best with and always be safe

[@jimmybeasley6008]

This is a great inexpensive round. I don’t know what this is about?

[@michaelm233]

Agree. You have to look at the small print on all boxes of ammo, not just Norma. FPS rates are almost always out of longer barrels than SD guns. Nothing special about that.

[@IMABEAST191]

$6 on PSA today cheap defensive ammo

[@Hebrews10_26]

Just got them for 7$

[@jaredhighlands4604]

7.99 for 15 boxes

[@salvadortejeda2502]

I bet you still wouldn't want to get shot by it out of a 3 inch barrel.

[@Swampytheroot]

I'm seeing it on clearance 20% less and thinking of buying a chunk of it. However, if I can only reliably use it in carbines (5), then it still doesn't make sense to get it. That's with 8% of what I pay for Ranger SXT 124gr +P. Guess I'll go buy more SXT +P. Thanks for the heads up!

[@NortheastSurvival911]

It works better than this guy is saying. I'm using this ammo out of a full-size Beretta 92fs what I've done my own testing. Ballistics gelatin barrier testing and yeah it doesn't expand when it goes through fucking barriers.. but when it hit something soft and fleshy you know like a person... This opens up unlike any hollow-point I've ever seen. And it cuts very nicely as it goes through. It doesn't over-penetrate and because they are 180 grain... You have reduced recoil and whatever it is you're firing it out of. I missed the part where this guy actually backed up a single thing that he said. Oh yeah he didn't. That's right. You just decide to take a whole bunch of time to complain about something he didn't fucking test on his own. It's your money spend it however you want to. But I'm telling you right now this works great out of things other than carbines. You don't need a long-ass barrel to get decent performance. My buddy was firing these out of a small Glock. Still coming in at over 1,100 feet per second fully expanding every time maintaining ninety-nine per-cent of its weight one hundred percent of the time.

[@Judge102]

Ive seen too many test with this round, with 1 layer of clothing, as well as several layers also with a thick hoodie including a shirt under the hoodie then gel. Shot from 3inch gun and a 4.25 inch gun and every single round expanded. The only downside was penetration which was an inch or two less than the corrupt fbi's 12+ inches. Id use this in any of my 9mm firearms.

[@edrosa3485]

Saw in one video where it didn't expand going through denim. Sailed right through the gel block. Just nope.

[@drjd2real]

People still die when bullets go straight through. You guys act like the emergency room or ambulance is on standby.

[@Seedavis397]

Damn near the price of ball ammo. What’s not to like.

[@twocents5362]

For the price it's a great round to stock for SHTF scenario

[@TheShocktrauma]

Do you even know what you’re talking about?

[@gregc33487]

I’m glad I saw this. PSA has these for $9.99(edit: $7.99 a box not $9.99. That price is so good I just wish it was worth it. Like you said, there’s a reason it’s usually on clearance) right now with free shipping on orders of 10 or more. Glad I didn’t buy it before doing some research. Thanks

[@JamesJones-sh9md]

I did tests with and without fabric and the performed perfectly with full expansion. I shot them out of a Springfield Hellcat with 3" barrel

[@gregc33487]

@@JamesJones-sh9mdThat’s good to know. I’ll consistent them next time then

[@alexperkins8361]

Be careful with these because my only issue is that these aren't stamped with a +p or +p+ stamp... These rounds are very very VERY HOT even HOTTER THAN Buffalo Bore. So be careful cause I've ruined a lcp max using the 380 mhp

[@marknemeth539]

I picked up 10 boxes from palmetto...83 bucks.,I'm going to throw it through the AR9... Hopefully it cycles..... but 200 hollow points for the price I was drawn to it lol

[@adrianr.2603]

Bought a bunch of these. They’re my “war” ammo

[@daniellove5414]

Good deal for the money. Make theses your pcc defensive roads

[@KyleBronkington]

I just bought 13 boxes of this stuff and it gets stuck in my Taurus G2C's magazines. What a waste of money.

[@calvinking1663]

The G2C is a wast of money as well. That gun will have you on a fucking t-shirt with wings😂.

[@archaicsage4803]

You can make these open up perfectly every time if you hit the dimple with a Dremel. Nasty little buggers...

[@scottbryan803]

All ammo companies advertise FPS or if longer barrels. We all know this.

[@JohnEBurns]

I want my Maypoe!

[@snarflatful]

Yeah, thanks for showing us a picture of the box. 👎 #useless

[@derekhinger1343]

BOX is made in hungary, anmos supposedly made elsewhere but i forget where

[@DaClosetGoblin]

This isn't an informative video and you contradict yourself on multiple levels. I could type out a whole list, but instead I'll summarize it with a couple of points: 1. You tell people to beware of flashy ammunition then tell them to maybe buy Federal HST's. 2. You say in the video that the ammunition is consistent, then proceed to immediately say it isn't in your video's description. 3. You never provide evidence of your claims, such as watching testing videos made by an unnamed individual, or that the round functions like an FMJ round. 4. An item on clearance does NOT mean the item is flawed. This is especially the case for something such as specialized ammunition, when ammunition manufacturers spread out their catalog/production. 5. NORMA is a Swedish company, but a great deal of their ammunition production is outsourced to other European countries. For example, NORMA's brass, range 7.62x39mm FMJ is made in Germany. Saying that NORMA ammunition made in Hungary is worth questioning is paramount to me saying that Remington ammunition is worth questioning because it isn't actually Remington making it (since they were entirely bought out). It's just a brand. 6. The box says "Dedicated Home Defense". This round can be used for EDC and is valid for doing so in the proper magazine sizes/barrel lengths. HOWEVER, it is not advertised for EDC, so I don't know why you're expecting it to suit everyone's EDC needs.

[@larrnew]

You obviously didn’t listen very well… he didn’t say items on clearance are “flawed” he said it’s usually because it’s not moving or selling!

[@DaClosetGoblin]

@@larrnew Since you’re trying to be condescending to me, I’m going to return the favor. “Obviously” you aren’t using critical thinking skills, Larry. He makes a video criticizing something and the first thing he brings up is that it was on clearance. I understand he brings up that it isn’t because it’s moving or selling, but he brings it up in a way that’s implying something is wrong with it and *then* he goes on to talk about all the things he feels is wrong about it. I felt as though I had to state what I felt as though was “obvious”, because this video is not informative or backed up with proper evidence. To add on, how in the blue blazing hell are you going to zero in on one of my critiques and say I didn’t listen well? I have multiple other points I made which would have required active listening.

[@larrnew]

@@DaClosetGoblin So if someone corrects you then that is being condescending to you??? How arrogant of you!!! Then you make the idiotic comment “ I understand he brings up that it isn’t because it’s moving or selling” No dumb dumb it’s on clearance because it is NOT moving or selling!

[@DaClosetGoblin]

@@larrnew "Obviously" the correction isn't the condescending part. "Obviously" you understood very well what I was saying. "Obviously" you didn't understand why I put "obviously" in quotations. "Obviously" I said you were "trying" to be condescending, meaning that I don't care what you think. I was "obviously" returning the favor to show you how it was received. "Obviously" you didn't like it when I returned the favor, calling me an arrogant idiot, so you "obviously" just proved my point. Thank you for correcting my grammar, but you "obviously" knew what I was conveying and are "obviously" nitpicking because you don't have a valid argument.

[@larrnew]

@@DaClosetGoblin yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah…. Obviously you’re too proud to admit when you’re wrong but yet you falsely criticize and accuse other people. You show a high level of immaturity and ignorance….🤣

[@user-tv6bg3dh7y]

I tried it on my cz double stack magazine it feed and shot cherry

[@jeffclark8098]

Says the guy with zero testing. Shhhh sit down.

[@podsmpsg1]

Thanks. I wouldn't use those either. Federal, Hornady or Speer would be much better. I have Hornady and Federal Punch, I carry Federal Punch.

[@floridaswampmudders9939]

Absolutely nothing wrong with this ammo . Performs flawlessly, any 9mm round in your pistol is a good self defense round. They will kill you dead . If you listen to KZbin all ammo brands are crap

[@stephenaddair1337]

Psa sales it for $5.99 so i got 4 boxes

[@Loud_Pack_313]

I understand the whole thing about terminal loads, but millions of people have died from FMJ’s. Just because they don’t perform as well as other defensive rounds, I bet none of you nay sayers would stand in front of one. For $6.99 I think it’s a good buy. IMO

[@forestgiest1380]

This stuff is crazy. I’d buy so much of this crap if I could only get my grubby fingers on it.

[@stefanfful]

PSA is fire saleing it in all calibers . free shipping on 9 and 45 10mm cheap shipping. Just bought a pile.

[@SEPTEMBERMAN]

....better than a fist (s) or a knife if a defensive situation would arise. duh

[@-JohnnyRingo-]

😂😂 idk what hes talking about ive always ran MHPs and have never had any trouble. I can upload a video RN where it says assembled in the US with US and foreign components, and it says out of a 4" test barrel. 108 gr 1312 fps 413 ft-lb contains 150gr of smokless powder. So this is absolutely your fault. Ntm this guy is the ONLY one complaining about them. Every other video says otherwise and so do i.

[@hixnada8278]

This guy has no data backing anything. Clearly these perform well enough for personal protection. No round is perfect. Nothing is 100% consistent. These are 90% as good as anything on the market - margin of error erases any true differences.

[@capulinamix2]

Switzerland not Sweden 😉

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Thanks

[@bongreaper519]

Wrong it's not dependent on velocity to do what he needs to do most ammunition has box readings from a 6 in barrel according to your logic not 1 .45 acp hp would have any flowering what so ever thumbs down 👎 from me inadequate knowledge to be making informational videos good companies shouldn't have to pay the negative consequences for your ignorance

[@NortheastSurvival911]

You don't need a carbine length barrel. I'm using a full-size Beretta 92fs and I'm maintaining an average of around 1,000 265 ft per second. Perfect expansion every time they blow through barriers like it's nothing. Yeah they don't open up like a flower going through windshield wood or anyting else.. but when they hit anything flashy they open up perfectly every time and they maintain almost one hundred percent of the weight one hundred percent of the time. I'm still waiting for the part in this video where you did any kind of testing. It's like you're taking the worst you can possibly find about any others reviews where people didn't care for it then probably didn't do any testing on their own either... And that's all you're talkin about. You seem to not have mentioned quite a few things about this cartridge that work damn good in anything that you fire them out of. And given your heavy opinion which you're more than entitled to have but based on your also lack of testing... I think I'm good with anything else on this channel

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

I stick to Hornady speer and federal for carry Barnes makes good copper ammo too the other stuff I test it extensively first

[@Newyorkgunguy]

so range ammo