Normal Landing

The Normal Approach and Landing can be one of the most challenging maneuvers to master, and is one that you will spend the rest of your career perfecting. In this video, we introduce you to the procedures and fundamentals that will help you make a great landing (almost) every time.
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[@wrex1377]

This is way harder than it looks.

[@thetattedpilot]

Absolutely

[@heeberman]

Dude, spot on. I have a new-found respect for commercial airline pilot landings 😆

[@jeancarlosperdomo5592]

Yep

[@wix118]

Its like neurosurgery. Once you learn how to do it it's a no brainer!

[@PyroBear1776]

I bet, my brother’s a PP.

[@aidanaccardo4584]

The best landing instruction I have ever seen! Thank You!!

[@josipvrandecic2472]

Normal clear voice, cold approach and without dramatization it is sought ... thanks Sir!

[@ismailhosny4580]

I’m here preparing for MS Flight Sim 2020

[@mgrecord9814]

Im here for the same, my email is [e-mail] Let's chat

[@OscarHines]

ismail hosny were u prepared?

[@ismailhosny4580]

​@@OscarHines Not quite lol. This is my first time in a flight sim in 5yrs and boy is there a lot to learn (or re-learn lol).

[@OscarHines]

ismail hosny fair enough. Good luck with your journey reexploring flight simulation!

[@DoCuOrange]

100 kts on downwind and 85 on final?? I always aim for 80 kts and 60/65, as I was taught. Also, pitch for speed and power for altitude is what we're taught, not 'increase/decrease power AND adjust pitch' - the latter will result from changes in your power input.

[@JohnSmith-bc1pe]

Agree, undergoing training with same inputs you described.

[@filfortugno]

it depends on the aircraft. A C-172m/n will have different approach speeds than a C-152 for example

[@JoshuaTootell]

I'm doing 70 on downwind all the way until the round out in a 172.

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

Wow! Look at all that flat ground! No mountains, no hills, no ocean! That narrator has a very nice voice! I wish all of them at the ATCs sounded as clear as that, (and as slow!) I think in the comments below, you have a lot of CFI wannabees!

[@kycrio5356]

I tried the technique of holding the top of the compass on the horizon but I nose dived and crash landed in the trees. I guess it doesn't work when your plane has its compass mounted from the ceiling instead of the dashboard.

[@mchanterelle]

are you for real?

[@rapinncapin123]

😂😂😂

[@rapinncapin123]

​@mchanterelle 😂😂😂

[@TheFlyingZulu]

@@mchanterelle I'm sure he isn't being sarcastic. This sounds like a 100% a true story, I have no doubt about it.

[@nazaky4715]

You can alwaaaays go around pum pum pum ♫♬

[@madzen112]

The glideslope is just like an invisible playground slide 🙂

[@charted8015]

you need to let the plane sink to ground effect then pull the aileron and keep it up until the speed drains away and then you will feel the touch or grazing of the wheels on the ground.

[@landingviewtv]

Thank you Sir, always good to see, even as an already established private pilot.

[@Adrianlovesmusic]

5:12 sing the *Go Around song*

[@jacksonsalmans6759]

Anyone have tips to get my flare to be good?

[@vajnaistvan6035]

Great job! it is nice built up the whole story! Just one question: what kind of animation 2D/3D software are u using? thx (PPL pilot from Hungary)

[@rapinncapin123]

What a video 🎉

[@Dinno_-rk5fq]

Here getting ready for my first solo

[@sparkyr22]

Great vid great info!

[@StefBelgium]

The pilot looks like the guy from CSI Miami 😆

[@SatyaSanathani]

Really good video on Landing

[@olegalferov9679]

At first I wanted to call it inaccuracy, but on the second thought, the instructor just needs to be more specific. The last airspeed call was "below 85", which is way too fast for touchdown speed, and later you can see 60 kts on the PFD, while instructor never tries to attract viewer's attention to that fact. Nothing is wrong with 60 kts with full flaps, but it is kind of feature of short field technique. If I may suggest, let's start with reviewing POH for normal landings. It is C172SP, correct? For 172-s, the airspeed has to be 65-75 kts on final with no flaps. Doesn't say that aloud, but implies, speed 65-75 is good for any flaps 0 to 20 degrees. With flaps 30, speed shall be 60-70 kts. We also assume that we start on our 45 degree entry to the pattern with speed 110-90 kts. At 110 or slower, it is safe to open 10 degrees of flaps. Below 85, it is safe to open any flaps settings. Pilot is not *required* to open flaps at any specific speed, just observe the speed(s) when it is safe to do so. Stall speed is below 55, add safety margin. That's pretty much it. The 172 is a great plane that forgives bad errors. I must add, however, it is not foolproof, so don't do wrong stuff intentionally. On my personal 5 cents. My primary instructor taught me shortened/simplified procedure. On downwind, reduce power, speed 90, flaps 10, start descent, turn base, speed 80, flaps 20, turn final, speed 70, flaps 30, and keep this speed until flare. It works just fine on runways 2000 feet or longer under normal conditions.

[@danielveliciu3445]

That's exactly how I use my flaps in the pattern.. Do you flare out with 70kts full flaps? I usually come in at 60-65kts and always have a difficult time timing the flare for some reason..

[@PeteFPV]

OLEG ALFEROV At Riddle, we’re taught by speeds, considering it is a part 141 school, everything is more structured. were taught 100 kts on downwind, abeam the numbers 90, base 80, final 65-70

[@olegalferov9679]

@@danielveliciu3445 1. I keep short final speed until passing the threshold, then reduce power. To zero or not to zero, depends on circumstances. I am pretty sure, speed is much slower in the flare itself. My best (softest, shortest) landings were at conditions when the wing is balancing on brink of stall, heard by stall horn sounding. I shouldn't go any deeper because I am not an instructor. 2. I believe it is a great idea to fly with different instructors from time to time, and learn from multiple people. Chances are, you will pick up something new.

[@danielveliciu3445]

@@olegalferov9679 Interesting.. My issue is I don't pull back far on the controls to hear that stall warning buzzer come on.. I always feel like my speed is too fast upon flaring and that i'll slam on the runway.. I'll keep working on them!

[@skippingguy]

This is quite brilliant. This speed/flaps checklist for a 172 always equals 100. Downwind 100/0, then 90/10, Base 80/20, Final 70/30. Fool proof. Flare will bring the plane to 60-65kts on landing. Makes it sound so do-able.

[@lorenzodunn3226]

Well developed presentation.

[@tobycarr9171]

Landing is really difficult ,

[@trainrider]

Nice video. On final at 3:40, mixture is full rich. A little later, at 4:16, the mixture has been leaned. :)

[@WorldKris]

I see. But I thought the mixture can only be leaned at 3,000ft AGL for a C172S?

[@MinerMends]

@@WorldKris It should always be rich on take off and landing tbh.

[@SgfGustafsson]

@@MinerMends Depends on density altitude.

[@SgfGustafsson]

@@WorldKris The mixture can be leaned at any altitude so long as it results in the correct air fuel ratio. The performance charts expect you to have leaned the mixture at 3,000' MSL for best performance. AGL is kind of irrelevant, what really matters is density altitude. Also it is common practice to have a full rich mixture for takeoff and landing, but it should be leaned anyways if operating at a significantly high density altitude.

[@WorldKris]

Thank you for the comment guys! By the time of this comment. I'm already done with my flight training a year ago. And your inputs are spot on

[@DocDavidErickson]

Some of your call outs I've never heard anyone do on the radio.

[@Willgtl]

You don't call them out on frequency. They're just things you say to yourself or to your co-pilot. it serves the dual purpose of verifying the configuration and forming habits so you never forget.

[@DanMcGrathDotNet]

I was confused by that, too.

[@Violinist_PL]

Why they set flaps to 10 while being waaay above white arc (VFE)?

[@barbaracresse5760]

This is a great video!

[@Neptune8]

Crosswind landings are difficult

[@thecomedypilot5894]

Thank you so much! Really helped!

[@Uncommon_Sense01]

Such a great video!! Thanks

[@Jasshands1]

that 172 is beautiful, better than the 1978 clapped out shit that I am learning in.

[@slycooper5455]

I'm learning in a 1967 C172, I know your feel.

[@bubbleserispe7626]

Just subscribed. Excellent Video - Thank you.

[@eduardotinelli4251]

Pretty good, thank you!!

[@bobhebbard5688]

172 pitches up with flap extension? I'm used to the cherokee 140, which pitches down. Please explain the difference. Tks. Bob.

[@danharrodian]

High wing, low wing.

[@1PickJesus]

Do u recall that lift is nearly perpendicular to the cord line? when you add flaps the lift acts rearward. More so with initial then w/full flaps. More drag with full flaps.

[@olegalferov9679]

At least it starts to climb up sharply while losing airspeed, also very sharply. Compensate for it by adding power and/or pitching down. In some circumstances, you have to stay away from using flaps if you are not sure about consequences.

[@in2flight]

The "high wing. low wing" reply is the most accurate. The high wing combined with a low tail is the primary reason for the pitch up, and here is why: The downwash off the flapped wing is really angled downward, and that down wash becomes the relative wind for the tail, coming down from above and producing a stronger downforce on the tail. That creates the nose up tendency. On the low wing, the down wash from the flapped wing passes way under the comparatively higher tail. So the relative wind on the tail is unaffected. The reason why it pitches down is because the wing section has a pitching moment that becomes more nose down with flaps. The height of the tail compared to the wing determines if the whole airplane pitches up or down. I learned that at ERAU in the early 80s... Thanks for reading.

[@estherelijahn]

Very helpful thank you

[@owenjc9132]

This doesn't feel like flying, it feels like a maths equation.

[@TrevorG]

Which is what flying basically is😂

[@jacobmould5941]

Great video

[@ethanblue1609]

Landing is so difficult especially with a crosswind 😭😭😭😭

[@rathwije1579]

Well explained.Thanks

[@thedahlins]

Good information, videos of the pilot not necessary and distracting, calling out airspeed and runway verification is taking up a lot of radio time, could be annoying to others in the pattern.

[@user-yo6yr1uc2o]

thanks for videos but i couldnt see the information about your pilot training on your web page, there are only degrees

[@ERAUSpecialVFR]

Embry-Riddle only offers flight training to degree seeking students enrolled at our Daytona Beach or Prescott campuses.

[@user-yo6yr1uc2o]

Thanks for the reply, lets say If I want to take Business Administration in Aviation, will i be able to take flight training and are you offering all the training for atpl

[@ERAUSpecialVFR]

As long as you are registered as a degree seeking student at one of our residential campuses, you can enroll in a Flight minor and complete your flight training. We offer the new ATP/CTP program which allows students enrolled in an aviation degree program to receive the R-ATP with just 1000 flight hours, or for non-aviation degree students, the ATP with 1500 hours.

[@abiyyupanggalih854]

watching this just for reference as a Vfx artist

[@harrywatters6898]

You can always go around...

[@betancur20071]

the best!!!!!

[@mariebcfhs9491]

singing the go around song

[@TopAliGi]

Them shoes though 😂

[@ChuckMahon]

Why do Flaps 30 in a 172? Blah. The nest normal landing configuration on a 172 is Flaps 20 and 70 KIAS on final

[@zipper978]

Chuck Mahon no

[@jeremy499]

Gentleman, There is more than one model of "172". They're flying a 172sp (180hp) which can pull more flap. I fly a 172n (160hp) and flaps 20 @ 65 is what I land at (barring the need for more flaps such as a steep approach. Could I slip it in in? Sure, but flaps are easier). It's a matter of lift vs drag. On the 172n flaps 20 is optimal. Anything beyond that the added drag increases at a greater percentage than the added lift.

[@muhammadsteinberg]

Really a moot point! Amount of flaps is really a judgement call isn't it?

[@in2flight]

Each to his own. I love the old 172s that had 40 degrees of flaps. You could put it down anywhere, with a rollout of a few hundred feet. It drives me crazy to see people using 3000 feet to get a C-172 stopped because they are afraid of hearing a stall warning horn. You need to develop a good feel for the margin over a stall on any airplane, so you have only the necessary energy left upon touchdown.... It may save your life on an engine failure someday!

[@tillerperry6200]

Imagine flying at a towered airport bruh. This was made by untowered gang

[@ashwinlasrado7114]

U r a pewdiepie fan I can say

[@misterrogers7045]

Mixture should be rich for best performance...FYI

[@ACitizenOfOurWorld]

The narrator sounds almost like he’s singing instead of speaking. It’s very distracting, his exaggerated up and down intonation.

[@moses777exodus]

🌍🌎🌏Very informative. Much Blessings to you. ✝Thanks for sharing, Lord-Jesus-Christ dot 🙏c🙏o🙏m

[@robolson9924]

Kind of unrelated. But, what headset is the pilot using? I'm tired of my heavy Davis Clark's.

[@ERAUSpecialVFR]

That's my Clarity Aloft, and I LOVE it! I will never go back to an over ear headset. Soooo comfortable, and they sound great! And I don't have to pull the buttons off the top of my hats anymore. :-)

[@robolson9924]

And they work well in a noisy Cessna?

[@ERAUSpecialVFR]

Rob Olson I’ve used them in everything from light sport to the Cessna to an E175, and they work equally as well in all of them.

[@theflyingguineapigfpv5812]

What the hell did he gust say

[@thecomedypilot5894]

T

[@charlesgathuma7063]

I have been studying hear day and night soon iam stealing a plane

[@nigerianprince4017]

Did you do it

[@charlesgathuma7063]

@@nigerianprince4017 not yet but very soon we are hitting the record

[@larryehrlich8702]

Why would anyone choose to land on the very end of the runway during training? If you land short you are in & on the yellow Chevrons...which is not allowed for landing or taxi! Picking the thousand foot marker makes alot more sense and no harm or foul if they land short. I think landing on the end of the runway with a student is ill advised.

[@skippingguy]

This is a very cool suggestion. The field I am training at has a 4500 foot runway. Each landing so far leaves about 3000 feet in front of the plane when the roll-out is complete. A bunch of forgiving runway in the "land short" range is so smart. Kind of a "why didn't I think of that" thing.

[@aaronwcary]

UND>ERAU

[@ERAUSpecialVFR]

Enjoy the videos!

[@aaronwcary]

Wasn't expecting a reply! I will!

[@ERAUSpecialVFR]

Haha! You happened to catch me as I was in between editing our next video series. Have fun with your flight training! Hope our videos help. :-)

[@aaronwcary]

Thanks! They do. Hope UND starts making new Aerocast videos soon too!

[@charlesnichols6908]

1990 UND grad, got my commercial, instrument and CFI there. M20J, Piper Arrow and 172 RG. Good times!

[@edmoore3910]

sounds to me like a guy reading a textbook who never flew. alot of variables come into play at times. wasted my time on this video.

[@tandemwings4733]

Awww.... shucks..!!!

[@skippingguy]

Uhh, I think that's the point -- a Textbook, "Normal landing" like the title says. Try searching "Landing instruction that includes all possible variables" and the video you are after will bubble right to the top. (Teeheehee)

[@wagnergitirana]

Perfect!