Normal Shift in Nursing Informatics

[@lilalj07]

So this sounds like a nursing research and implementation type of position, in which MSN RN's have a say/influence on how hospital software programs function for clinical staff basically. For those wondering, there's probably no coding or software engineering aspect that the nurse is responsible for. Thanks for this video!

[@jenjam5441]

Finally a video that's sums up what they do. I've been browsing videos and by the ends im still wondering what the jobs entails.

[@DabidRobinson]

Right???? Lol that was 100% me.

[@OkNikaOK]

I love your reason for doing Informatics. Bedside is not my thing but I would love to help the nurses out

[@DabidRobinson]

Yassss since this video I have learned so much more about the role, I’ll have to make a video on my updated information

[@SimpleFitNurse]

Thanks for clarifying about what the job entails for an informatics nurse. Personally, I knew they work on the efficiency of charting for bedside nurses but could not really picture what they do on a day to day basis

[@DrAndreaDinardo]

I love ‘a day in the life” videos! You nailed it David, great content, once again! 🏥 💖

[@SimplyShaiRN]

This is awesome !! When I first started my journey to deciding what I wanted to do with my masters i could not find anyone on here talking about informatics !! You are really giving great info !!! excited to follow your journey !

[@kerifaison9029]

Hi David, great video and spot on! I too have my MSN inn Healthcare Informatics and yes there are so many different revenues for this profession! My organization EHR is Epic and when I graduated last year there were no Informaticist jobs available within. I however accepted a position as a Clinical Documentation Improvement Specialist which has given me a great deal of experience! I do work remotely 3 days a week and at the office for 2. It’s definitely a evolving profession and I’m excited to experience what’s to come! Thank you for your videos 😊

[@carmiexo1127]

Do you think getting a CDI certificate/training is preferable over a masters in informatics? I’m undecided

[@kerifaison9029]

@@carmiexo1127 Hi Camie, I can’t say that it’s more beneficial over getting your MSN Informatics, but I do know you have more opportunities with the informatics degree. It’s really what you’re more interested in. The CDI cert is specifically for that are of profession. I want to eventually work more within the EHR, just as what David has described, but it is hard to find a job without experience. This is why I’m doing CDI, but I actually enjoy it as well. I hope this helps

[@TheArmedNurse]

Nursing Informatics is my backup plan if I get tired of patient care later on lol

[@bryand3991]

Hey Lil D!! Thanks For the Video!! Your a nice person my friend!! Congrats on reaching 700 Subscribers!! :)

[@DabidRobinson]

Bryan D thanks for being so supportive ☺️☺️

[@LALAE6]

Starting my masters in Nursing Informatics! Very excited thanks for the information.

[@DabidRobinson]

Hey congrats!! The program is really not all that hard. The first classes are not really related but the more you get into the program the more related it becomes

[@leslieprieto7807]

What program are you in?

[@MannieKu]

I hate our charting system!! I am always submitting ideas to IT to change this to make it easier! I am definitely getting this degree!!!

[@LyfeByMiMi]

hahaha thank u for explaining what we do as Nurse Informatics...Next time someone ask what i do, i can share your video

[@DabidRobinson]

Please do!

[@familienb1442]

Great video! What you described is basically what I do in my job :) (I work as a informatics nurse in Norway, edit: RN + MSc in Health Informatics)

[@DabidRobinson]

Yay! I was accurate at least haha

[@nursebondemcanada]

Thanks for the information. I have always thought of doing health informatics in future. I guess nursing informatics is more nursing focused

[@DabidRobinson]

Yes, and it's about the route of obtaining the degree too. In order to go for nursing informatics, you must do the RN route. Health informatics is similar but just a different route of education.

[@guardians76]

Thanks for providing clarity on this field!

[@DabidRobinson]

Glad it was helpful!

[@abby6713]

Perfect! Just the info I was looking for

[@vanitymarks8798]

Thanks for your personal response to what informatics is! I am so tired of bedside and want to *maybe* apply to an informatics program next year. Do you feel there is any kind of upward mobility in this kind of position, or is it more of a terminal degree and that's it?

[@SamSueSmith2696]

Hi David, I am just starting to apply for programs for nursing informatics. And your video makes me feel more at ease with choosing this area of nursing. My goals are similar to yours. I was worried if I wouldn’t be able to find a job in this field once I graduate. Thank you so much for this video :)

[@DabidRobinson]

Thanks for supporting the channel! How long have you been a nurse?

[@SamSueSmith2696]

I’ve been a nurse for 2 years

[@Ilonasworld]

That is something new , I dnt think we have such in my country.... We only have, matrons , unit managers, senior nurse and nurses case managers and secretaries.....

[@DabidRobinson]

Oh okay, this is definitely a more behind the scenes type of work for the nursing staff and physicians

[@ds_the_rn]

Thanks for this video. I’m going to start my MSN in Informatics classes.

[@DabidRobinson]

Very nice!! For sure! Make sure you hit the like button!

[@effiab4093]

I’m really thinking about doing this lately.

[@DabidRobinson]

Careful if you do though, job market is competitive

[@michellejean8903]

Hi what do you need to do to get into informatics? I’m thinking about this a lot after I’m done with my 3 year contract as a Med Surg Nurse

[@browns-all-around9577]

I have a question. I work in a small hospital , rural setting. Recently bought out by a large system. I work ICU. Right now we have to manually type in VS q15mins. We are newly on EPIC and I'm not sure I'd EPIC has capability but on Cerner our ICU monitors were associated and would matriculate with a double click to the EHR. We have one Nurse Informaticist on staff. We heard that the larger sister hospital has this capability. Would that be a job for me to go to my director about and should she then refer to him? Q15min VS on 2 to 3 patients is quite tedious and time consuming. Thanks!?

[@DabidRobinson]

Wow, documenting your vitals that often on 2-3 patients is a lot of work. I am not that knowledgable on EPIC but this is a feature that we have in Cerner. You say you have an Informatics team, I would definitely get your coworkers opinions but yes I would talk to your director about making this change. Your director can then reach out to the informatics people and if EPIC allows this type of association then it would be really beneficial. Thanks for reach out friend :)

[@elizabethoshodi5300]

THANK YOU. 😊

[@carolinabycarolina8451]

thank you for sharing. Its great how many opportunities nursing can have and how you can further your career.

[@DabidRobinson]

Absolutely!!

[@jessicachaliff382]

What’s the Facebook group you are in that discusses the different jobs

[@lisafilms1670]

I recently got my BSN after doing a ABSN program. I am interested in nursing informatics. Do I need to further my education or do I just need to find positions or get experience working and then apply to a nursing informatics position?

[@DabidRobinson]

Do you have bedside experience. Technically you can get a job in informatics with a BSN. It would help if you got some informafics experience and start network for sure.

[@lisafilms1670]

@@DabidRobinson I don't have bedside experience, still in school. It was a field I was interested in, maybe once I get experience. ty!!

[@Ilonasworld]

To us IT deals with tech

[@uzbekistansiberia8546]

can you work from home for RN informatics? is it i gain that education through the MSN not through experience of BSN? how do i get into the game earlier on ?

[@ladyna6891]

Thanks for the info. Apart from hospitals, where else can I work as a nurse in informatics? I am considering msn in informatics.

[@DabidRobinson]

The EHR companies is a good area to look into. Such as EPIC, Cerner, Meditech, TeleHealth

[@zina757]

So is it sort of just researching if new changes are needed, educating others how to use the system ? If you determine a change is definitely needed, do you help with coding to make the system change ? Or does an engineer do that part ?

[@lilalj07]

I don't think coding or software engineering is involved for the nurse.

[@Ghanaba23]

David, what is the educational requirment to become nurse informaticist? I'm almost done with my ADN, what will be my next step?

[@DabidRobinson]

Minimally a BSN but you can get your MSN

[@eluz8856]

Thank you for this video! Super helpful!

[@DabidRobinson]

Your welcome!

[@ChilangoDios333]

What do you mean that the bedside had been pushing you away?

[@DabidRobinson]

Just over it, all the angry patients and family members. That’s probably the main reason for leaving.

[@siegehub6009]

Hi David I’m a nurse manager, interested in nurse informatics :)

[@evanigolden]

do you have to have a BSN? i have my ASN and BS in Biomedical Sciences which is a pre med degree?

[@mirandaalexis]

I know several nurses who do this

[@Michael81801]

What FB group?

[@DabidRobinson]

Michael81801 the name is not exactly specific. I’ll post it on my Facebook and that link is in the bio!

[@salvadormarino7854]

What degree do you need at the minimum? If someone has an associates RN would you need a masters or?

[@DabidRobinson]

Minimum a bachelors, and I do know plenty of people who have gotten positions with just a bachelors.

[@mariazacarias6762]

How can I prepare myself for a NI interview?

[@DabidRobinson]

I should make a video on this, keep an eye out. Here is a video I did that could be incorporated into preparing for an interview! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJOXpIaLrJloo8k

[@smartin5888]

I'm in a graduate informatics class and had no idea what it was actually about. I had to watch this video before writing a paper lmao

[@DabidRobinson]

Glad it helped!! Haha 😄

[@cassiright1493]

do you need hospital experience working with those charting systems in ordee to get into informatics?

[@DabidRobinson]

It definitely helps, that way you know how the changes actually impact those who use them.

[@cassiright1493]

i know theres no straight forward answer but how long would you say? Did it for one year but i know thats not enough experience.

[@kimberlylusby3365]

Just found your channel. Very informative!

[@DabidRobinson]

Hello, thanks :) and welcome!

[@ramontabios4772]

This is a very helpful! Have you finished your MSN? And have you find a job as a nurse informaticist? I'm very interested in taking this too! Thanks!

[@puroresubones6781]

Thanks for this. I've seen master's degree and cerficate programs, should one go for the master's from the start or do you think it isn't necessary? Thanks in advance.

[@DabidRobinson]

I know people who have gotten jobs with only a BSN, some only have a certificate and others only have their MSN... You could apply for a position with a BSN and if you like it, then you could advance your education.

[@emmerodriguez5973]

Do you know if a computer science minor and a BSN would work for nursing informatics? Or is it better to minor in health informatics?

[@DabidRobinson]

Minimally you generally only need a BSN. For nursing informatics, they are really interested in seeing if you have bedside experience. Health informatics is different than nursing informatics.

[@cokedupcat]

@@DabidRobinson what can someone do with a Information technology Associates and a nursing associates?

[@cokedupcat]

@@DabidRobinson thank you for this video btw it was very informative I couldn't find any info on Informatics Nursing

[@ADELANDMOIRASSPACE]

Hi there, I am an RPN doing community nursing .For so long I have been thinking of furthering my education in nursing but not necessarily direct contact with patients but something I could help and do from home. How do I go about it if I want to do nurse informatics and is it very hard to do.😬

[@DabidRobinson]

To get into informatics you do not need a masters but it helps. You can get a job in the field with a BSN, if you are going into with a BSN it helps to have some background in informatics, such as projects in the field.

[@noreenbassett1343]

Thanks so much for the info! I’m debating my RN to BSN or RN to MSN in nursing informatics. Do you have any insight on going for the BSN first or if I already know that’s where I want to go should I just shoot for my MSN?

[@DabidRobinson]

Might as well go straight for the MSN then! I didn’t know what I wanted, that’s why I went from ADN to BSN then to MSN

[@ranman531]

What is salary range for LPNS and RN's who go into nursing informatics? I understand it varies depending on situation and location but could you provide me an approximation? Thanks :)

[@DabidRobinson]

Not 100% sure... 60-80k? This is just what I have seen online though

[@ryanscott6600]

Are you still responsing to comments?

[@DabidRobinson]

Yes I am lol, do you have a question?

[@ryanscott6600]

@@DabidRobinson is there any way I am able to get a hold of you and talk to you? I have lots of questions and am not finding many answers.

[@DabidRobinson]

You could DM me on IG and we can talk @Dabidrobinson

[@ryanscott6600]

@@DabidRobinson okay sounds good thank you

[@DabidRobinson]

Still here if you have any questions friend

[@jenrn120]

Thank You!🙏🏽

[@zckgmz8986]

Great video bro!

[@browns-all-around9577]

I agree. Good info, short and sweet

[@jesusjustiniano9712]

Hello there, I have my BSN, and I was wondering if I should go for my MSN in Health informatics due to the amount of Jobs available in Arizona. I’m thinking about GCU, what do you think? Do you have any advice?

[@DabidRobinson]

I have not ventured out, when looking for jobs too much... are there quite a bit of them in Arizona? You could get a job in informatics with just a BSN. The program is not hard, it’s pretty easy, just a lot of busy work. I have been making a series talking about each class in the program if you want to check it out! kzbin.info/aero/PLCbZtVBNgiJw32wIY_cf1ZQa95qd4MvLd

[@UFCReno]

Are you currently working in an Informatics department?

[@DabidRobinson]

No, but I am going to school for informatics

[@JepoyIgana]

@@DabidRobinson hows the schooling for informatics? im thinking about taking up nursing informatics.

[@cynthiamckenzie3749]

thank you

[@DabidRobinson]

For sure!!

[@beverlymiranda3044]

what kind of coding or IT background do you have to have before applying for nursing informatics positions?

[@DabidRobinson]

From the information I have gathered about nursing informatics. It is not about coding or an IT background, it is more about having a nursing background and understand the charting systems from that perspective. Honestly I have zero IT and coding experience but from what I heard, I don't really need it. It's best for your to get as involved as you can with your nursing informatics team, if you have one. Thanks for reaching out

[@corineyohmba4963]

@@DabidRobinson I love your video

[@ar.catswords]

Hi! I have computer science degree and 3y software engineer career. To change to this industry is there any way?

[@DabidRobinson]

Not exactly in nursing informatics, but you could look for positions in health informatics that don’t require a clinical background.

[@bmpatel1281]

Are you interested working on development of an RN app for operating room nurse ,

[@DabidRobinson]

Sounds interesting haha are you offering me a job?

[@pedroarzeno3768]

This does sound interesting. Want to talk more?

[@feyikemijegede144]

Hey, what is the Facebook page for informatics that you joined? thanks

[@DabidRobinson]

The group is just called Nursing Informatics and it has 2.1k members. Hope that helps

[@poincareconjecture5651]

Hey which program are enrolled in sir been looking at different ones, thanks for the Video:)

[@DabidRobinson]

For my masters I am going to Grand Canyon University mostly because my work is partnered with them and they are helping pay hahah

[@terrikamuhammad4871]

I have a BS in Information Technology. I am thinking of getting a MSN so that I can advance in the informatics field. Do you think this is possible without having that clinical experience? I already work for a Heath Informatics company, I just would like to advance in my career.

[@DabidRobinson]

It is definitely possible to skip the clinical experience. A lot of people go straight for informatics and work already work in the field so school should be easy, in regards to knowledge.

[@terrikamuhammad4871]

@@DabidRobinson Thank you for responding! That gives me some hope!

[@moxiejae321]

Thanks!

[@DabidRobinson]

No problem!

[@mckayla882]

Well you are quite cute 🥰 I’m totally digging the nursing stuff though!

[@DabidRobinson]

Thank you haha. I do bake every once in a while too hahah

[@mckayla882]

David Robinson wow you’re basically the whole package 😉 You single? 😬🔥

[@yyb7027]

Was thinking the same thing lol

[@jewel4396]

Hi I have some questions about the nursing informatics field… is there any way I can communicate with you besides KZbin

[@DabidRobinson]

No i am sorry but feel free to leave questions in a comment! I have many videos on the topic!

[@jewel4396]

@@DabidRobinson Ok do you know what would be the fundamentals in nursing informatics ?

[@teletsg]

Hi there found your channel and this topic really interesting new friend here☺️

[@DabidRobinson]

Hello and welcome :)

[@AC-fp7ns]

Hey man, could you work a nursing informatics job remotely internationally?

[@DabidRobinson]

Definitely remotely. As for the international part of it? I am not sure, especially with time differences… because even remote informatics people work 8-4 or 9-5.

[@AC-fp7ns]

@@DabidRobinson I have a BSN but am considering a move to Colombia for family stuff. The time difference is only an hour ahead of central time, which makes that easier. I'd like to be able to work remotely and make US dollars and Informatics struck me as maybe making that possible.

[@alohaazzie8462]

@@AC-fp7ns it’s not the time difference that you have to worry about. It’s the visa and the tax issue, as well as confidentiality. It’s not likely many companies will allow you to work out of country with all of the restrictions

[@KindredGh0st]

I have 20 years of i.t. eevee doing desktop support and am in an accelerated nursing program. I'm a little disappointed to hear that there doesn't seem to be many 3 x 12 shifts.

[@DabidRobinson]

Yeah, still I have not heard of any 12 hour shift positions

[@KindredGh0st]

@@DabidRobinson damn. I had my heart set nursing informatics... We'll see! I might just go for my dnp in mental health.

[@DabidRobinson]

12 hours makes sense for bedside nursing but, the role of informatics for 12 hours sounds like a long day lol

[@blaq2handle]

I don’t have any experience in bedside nursing due to physical medical restrictions. Can I get into informatics with no bedside/hospital care? I do have home health care experience.

[@DabidRobinson]

Yeah you still could, it might be a little more of a challenge to get a position but all you need is to get a foot in the door.

[@blaq2handle]

@@DabidRobinson Would it be better if I get my master's?

[@DabidRobinson]

It could help... the largest downfall is no bedside experience. You could always look into Health Informatics, it’s a bit different than nursing informatics.

[@LilTaco777]

Is there a lot of demands for informatics?

[@DabidRobinson]

Not exactly… 😂 I’m quickly finding that out

[@LilTaco777]

@@DabidRobinson I’m wondering what to do. I got my bsn but not really interested in bedside for that much longer.

[@DabidRobinson]

You could go into teaching or management or even look at nursing facilities

[@ds_the_rn]

@@DabidRobinson oh geez. There’s not much need for Informatics? And here I am just starting! I’m in Southern California, so maybe I’m at an advantage with hospitals. I really like forensic nursing. Should I just stick with that? I was a 911 operator for 20 yrs and have a BS in Criminal Justice. I’d love to work in a morgue, but that’s super niche! Thanks for your opinion, Nurse David!

[@pedroarzeno3768]

There are. You have to network. I just started an informatics job. I am loving it so far. 😁

[@steyf4]

How would one get started in informatics without experience in it? I have an MSN in education but was interested in applications improvement.

[@DabidRobinson]

Having a MSN is helpful, I would just start looking for positions in the field and start applying. If you work in a hospital, I would say reach out to you informatics team and ask them if you could shadow them for a day. Also a good way to get your name out there. Working on the unit, you have the opportunity to be a super user when they roll out new changes, but it does not sound like you work on the unit right now.

[@SeanWestacott]

What's the typical salary for this job?

[@DabidRobinson]

The typical starting salary, from what I have heard from others and online is 70-80k. I do not yet work in this field, so from self experience, I don't know yet.

[@SeanWestacott]

@@DabidRobinson Thanks. I'm burnt out of bedside nursing so I am considering getting the graduate certificate in informatics. It doesn't seem as fast-paced or stressful as bedside nursing.

[@DabidRobinson]

I start my clinical next month so I will finally get a real glimpse of the position, so keep in touch because I’ll make a video about how their day actually goes. I hear you though, bedside is rough

[@cuzuvmcvoy]

Is it departmentalized! I mean, for example, i have a background in OR NURSING. Would i be assigned mostly on OR CHARTINGS?

[@DabidRobinson]

It is departmentalized! You could be assigned to that if that position opened up! Otherwise you could get assigned to a different field.

[@timelapse3828]

I am not a nurse but I am studying Health Informatics. What kind of role are available for me?

[@DabidRobinson]

I did make a video on job opportunities in informatics, check it out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZWygYeXrKaZhNE

[@kyleedraper4578]

Hello, I'm going to be finiahing up my nursing program in May and I am considering nurse informatics. Do you think that this is a good career for an introvert? As a student in the informatics field, what does schooling look like, and what does it take to get where you are? I've decided that bedside nursing is not for me, so I'm looking for options away from the bedside.

[@DabidRobinson]

I am also an introvert but that's not why I am getting into it. There are so many different things that someone can do in this role and one includes holding classes in front of staff, which actually makes me really nervous because the informatics team at my hospital does do this. I am in my fifth class, and overall it's pretty basic. There is zero patient interaction, so it will for sure get you away from the bedside. When you graduate will you have your RN or BSN?

[@kyleedraper4578]

@@DabidRobinson Thank you for responding. I will have my RN.

[@DabidRobinson]

You can get a job in informatics with a BSN, to see if you like it before going for your masters.

[@blackl1steddrums]

"Lil D" lol

[@DabidRobinson]

It’s your boy Lil D

[@blackl1steddrums]

@@DabidRobinson Change it to “Big D” man! Haha

[@DabidRobinson]

Wow haha

[@beautyunknown8062]

Hi what Facebook group are you in? Thanks

[@DabidRobinson]

The name of the group Im in is very generic. It’s just called Nursing Informatics but if you follow my Facebook page I can share it there!

[@neilmodino9284]

You can not even say it clearly what it is. It's not clear what it is. It's already difficult in the Healthcare field. It's totally deviating from nursing.