Normal Subgroups and Quotient Groups -- Abstract Algebra Examples 11

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@schweinmachtbree1013
@schweinmachtbree1013 Жыл бұрын
In the second problem it should be noted that it makes sense to consider the quotient by any subgroup H of G rather than by a normal subgroup, because all subgroups of G are normal since G is cyclic and hence abelian.
@Happy_Abe
@Happy_Abe Жыл бұрын
Isn’t r^n=e? So =={e} the trivial subgroup and Dn/{e} should just be isomorphic to Dn itself not Z_2
@spegee5332
@spegee5332 Жыл бұрын
probably meant , but you are correct
@Happy_Abe
@Happy_Abe Жыл бұрын
@@spegee5332 thanks
@schweinmachtbree1013
@schweinmachtbree1013 Жыл бұрын
@@spegee5332 yes, justin meant .
@GlenMacDonald
@GlenMacDonald Жыл бұрын
At [12:00], he says "So taking this element gN to the m-th power gives us the identity element, which means BY DEFINITION that |gN| must divide m". While it's a true statement, it's not true "by definition". The definition of the order of an element is that it is the smallest natural number n such that raising the element to the n-th power gives the identity. The divisibility claim is actually a theorem which requires proof.
@M.athematech
@M.athematech Жыл бұрын
at 9:38 you can't call the cosets gH as g is already being used for a specific element of the group
@GlenMacDonald
@GlenMacDonald Жыл бұрын
That's a valid point; however, at [9:57], he corrects this mistake by choosing a different letter, namely, x, and shows that the arbitrary coset xH can be written as some power of gH.
@MathEnthusiast-od8yu
@MathEnthusiast-od8yu Жыл бұрын
why you conclude that g^{-1} ng \in N ? isn't it known that gng^-1 in N? and we dont have any information about g^{-1} ng \in N ?
@GlenMacDonald
@GlenMacDonald Жыл бұрын
gng^{-1} is in N if and only if N is a normal subgroup. This is equivalent to gN = Ng.
@richardschreier3866
@richardschreier3866 Жыл бұрын
For n in N and g in G, we know gng⁻¹ is in N. Since g⁻¹ is in G, g⁻¹n(g⁻¹) ⁻¹ = g⁻¹ng is in N.
@dalitlegreenfuzzyman
@dalitlegreenfuzzyman Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin!
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