Norse Mythology Pronunciation differences! Thor was not his REAL NAME!

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@beorlingo
@beorlingo 10 ай бұрын
In Sweden we say "Oden", not "Odin".
@m8pwa_
@m8pwa_ 10 ай бұрын
Pretty much yes.
@martinfranzen9151
@martinfranzen9151 10 ай бұрын
As a Swede it was this i was searching for. I'm a shamed that she don't know better...
@antoniocasias5545
@antoniocasias5545 10 ай бұрын
She didn’t spell it that way. Blame the editors.
@tisse90
@tisse90 10 ай бұрын
Both Oden and Odin are acceptable ways of spelling in the Swedish language
@johanholm2109
@johanholm2109 10 ай бұрын
She forgot to translate
@gonun13
@gonun13 10 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious that Iceland being an island far from European mainland really helped in keeping that old norse feeling alive. It sounds great.
@davidbergfors6820
@davidbergfors6820 9 ай бұрын
From what I've heard, Iceland does actively combat the modernisation of their language. they never adapt words from outside like other nordic languages have a tendency to do, but whenever a new thing is introduced, it gets a Icelandic word.
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 9 ай бұрын
@@davidbergfors6820 In theory, yes, but there is a bit of a difference between official language and what actual Icelanders speak. And they do adapt words, so the word for a cell phone is (or was?) gemsi which is an adaptation of the acronym GSM. There's also the word kósý from English cosy. So the "never" is not quite true. As for gonun: well, kept alive I guess but Icelandic has changed a lot these past 1,000+ years.
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 9 ай бұрын
@larsliamvilhelm While you are correct, that's also semantics. For all intents and purposes, when people say "Old Norse" what they mean is normalised Old West Norse as written by the likes of Snorri Sturluson. So yes, technically "Old Norse" is only the pre-West-East-split stage, but in practice it's the 12th century West speak. As for the Old Icelandic moniker, it's a bit misleading as many of the things that separate Old Icelandic, Old Faroese, and Old Norwegian hadn't really happened yet, so the whole æ vs ø vs œ sound change hadn't gone through yet. Post Black Death however, is a whole different story; language changes happened fast after that. So yeah, you are correct but with an asterisk.
@Magni87
@Magni87 9 ай бұрын
@@weepingscorpion8739 You are absolutely correct, but I'm going to nitpick your example. When naming new things in Icelandic we either make up new words or repurpose old words. Then culturally words often end up adapted as per your "kósý" example. Gemsi for cell phone is an inspired use from the acronym, but it is a repurposed older Icelandic word that used to refer to a young lamb (and more). Similar to how the word for telephone, sími, is an older word that meant line, or a thread.
@Henoik
@Henoik 9 ай бұрын
One of very few languages that rarely import words. They just make new words from existing ones.
@DeusExHonda
@DeusExHonda 10 ай бұрын
English also had þ and ð, but the printing press killed them. The thorn (þ) was represented with y so English speakers mistakenly thought old printing would say things like "ye olde taverne" when it was actually saying "þe olde taverne" (the old tavern)
@SebHaarfagre
@SebHaarfagre 8 ай бұрын
That's cool I actually learnt something new. Thanks! Brain is satiated.
@pervysagemkd
@pervysagemkd 7 ай бұрын
Wasn't "the old tavern" example actually with ð? "ðe old tavern" as when you write cursive, ð looks like the belly of the D is just the handle of the Y woven into eachother? I am not sure if I am making sense and I could be wrong, but tthere is that british youtube guy who talks about old english and I feel like I remember him talking about this with ð and Y, and þ is more into "tha" pronounciation.
@RanmaruRei
@RanmaruRei 7 ай бұрын
​@@pervysagemkdin fact English at some point had only Þþ, not Ðð. The difference between [θ] and [ð] was positional, so the sounds did not need separate letters. But in Modern English the positional nature of th-sounds is lost.
@heather.0476
@heather.0476 7 ай бұрын
@@pervysagemkd When people wrote þ in cursive it started to look more like a fancy Y (with the tail going in the opposite direction) as the curve at the top became gapped rather than connected - so it roughly went from þ, to a fancy P, to a fancy Y (if that makes sense).
@dcbbot
@dcbbot 7 ай бұрын
@@RanmaruRei Are you sure this is correct? They're basically the same mouth position but one is voiced and the other vocieless. This still exists just pronounce the words 'THis' and 'THing'. The first is vocieless (put your hand on your throat you'll feel nothing) and the second is voiced (put your hand on your throat feel vibration). Perhaps your use of the word positional is throwing me off.
@dropkickandy
@dropkickandy 25 күн бұрын
They chose a really good voice for Denmark. super clear speaking voice.
@TheIfifi
@TheIfifi 10 күн бұрын
Yea, clear speaking is not usually our strong suit.,.. So long as you get the first 2 letters right and then the length... Yea that'll do.
@dropkickandy
@dropkickandy 10 күн бұрын
@@TheIfifi true, almost works the same way as when we read. Only the first few letters and the length of the word is enough for us to read it 😅
@bobmaster698
@bobmaster698 8 күн бұрын
Pissed me off she said "tyr" not "tor"
@Zeghola
@Zeghola 8 күн бұрын
​@@bobmaster698She said Tyr because that was the word. And she said Tor when that was the word. They are two different gods in Norse mythology.
@bobmaster698
@bobmaster698 8 күн бұрын
@@Zeghola ohh lmao my bad the title misled me
@Marzin86
@Marzin86 10 ай бұрын
love that the subtitles butcher everything
@rolandkarlsson7072
@rolandkarlsson7072 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. The subtitles were strange. Some kind of simplified phonetics?
@miyamotomusashi6450
@miyamotomusashi6450 4 ай бұрын
I don't love that.
@Sirvalian
@Sirvalian 3 ай бұрын
​@@rolandkarlsson7072Americanized phonetics, definitely not standard.
@j7ndominica051
@j7ndominica051 3 ай бұрын
Better like this than on other videos where they write the same word but talk about big differences between accents.
@Patralgan
@Patralgan 10 ай бұрын
It's indeed a bit awkward for Finns since many of those usually aren't discussed because we have our own mythology and characters
@drill_don684
@drill_don684 10 ай бұрын
Finland is the best nordic country even though they are not nordic
@Patralgan
@Patralgan 10 ай бұрын
@@drill_don684 yes we are. We're not Scandinavian like some other Nordic countries
@drill_don684
@drill_don684 10 ай бұрын
@@Patralgan yeah I ment that but my brain went thrrrrrrppp and I confused the word Nordic with the word Scandinavian either way Finland is my favourite scandinavian country
@BeautifulFear
@BeautifulFear 10 ай бұрын
Swede here, I had no idea about Finnish mythology! I will have to look that up 🤗
@Hadewijch_
@Hadewijch_ 10 ай бұрын
In the Netherlands we say Donar instead of Thor, and Wodan instead of Odin.
@Wombatmetal
@Wombatmetal 10 ай бұрын
This was really fun. Surprised it wasn't mentioned that many days of the week in English are named after Norse gods. Tuesday - Tiu/Tyr; Wednesday - Odin/Woden; Thursday _ Thur/Thor; Friday - Frigg
@thevannmann
@thevannmann 10 ай бұрын
It's not just English though, pretty much all the Nordic languages use the same except Saturday, so it would be kind of obvious to them all.
@pemanilnoob
@pemanilnoob 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never once heard that in my life. I would NEVER have guessed the days of the week come from Norse gods. They look and sound nothing alike
@rexx23ify79
@rexx23ify79 10 ай бұрын
@@pemanilnoob Not Norse gods, actually. Germanic gods. It's just that the Norse mythology and Germanic mythology are 2 mythologies split off of the same one originally. The English used to have this religion with their own name for the gods from the Germanic side, but the religion was pushed out by Christianity, which is why English also uses these names for their days.
@pemanilnoob
@pemanilnoob 10 ай бұрын
@@rexx23ify79 …okay? Honestly the fact that “Norse god” was not really the part I was trying to convey in my own comment, but thanks anyways I guess
@GeoffCB
@GeoffCB 10 ай бұрын
​@@rexx23ify79 And we strangely have a Moon day, a Saturn day and a Sun day. 😄
@JazuNeon
@JazuNeon 10 ай бұрын
Our Finnish girly was a bit left out in the video. We obviously are aware of the Norse mythology and have been influenced by it somewhat but we are not taught about it in school or anything (maybe briefly mentioned? I don't remember being taught about Odin etc). And we don't have Finnish variations for the names of the Norse gods. In a way fun to have her there nonetheless but she is definitely approaching the subject from a certain distance. Would be fun to hear about Finnish mythology sometime cuz it is also very interesting and quite different from the Norse stuff in many ways.
@CrisSelene
@CrisSelene 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don’t know why they brought her there since Finns are a completely different culture than the Norse. Someone in the production team didn't do their homework
@alfrredd
@alfrredd 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, Finland has never followed norse mythology, and their language is not related to them at all. It's Nordic because of the location and flag but that's about it.
@torbjornkallstrom2316
@torbjornkallstrom2316 10 ай бұрын
Would actually have made more sense having a German on. You'd have germanic cognates with the norse gods like Wutan (Odin) and Donner (Thor).
@Eddie-pu2ij
@Eddie-pu2ij 10 ай бұрын
Yeah definitely, I've only heard those names only in Marvel movies😅
@Torsteen-p3d
@Torsteen-p3d 10 ай бұрын
@@CrisSelene Well, adjacent culture, and heavily influenced by Norse culture, and also somewhat influenced Norse culture. For example Odin being a shamanic character is Finnic influence. There's been a lot of mixing, including cultural mixing between Finns and Scandinavians since the stone age, as both groups developed right next to each other, and in fact, both groups kind of developed from the same exact stone age culture that was in the area back in the day.
@pwbmd
@pwbmd 2 ай бұрын
Worth noting for anyone watching this that the Finnish language is *completely* different from English and the other Nordic languages. Swedish, Norwegian, and Danish are mutually intelligible with some effort. Icelandic is a more preserved form of the common ancestral language (not surprising since they developed on an island). English has a lot more French and Latin influence. And Finnish is not related at all to any of the languages in Europe. Finland is culturally part of the Nordic countries, but their language is virtually no more related to the European languages than Arabic is. (I learned this the hard way, the first time I visited Finland thinking my Swedish skills would help me. Nope.)
@tonikaihola5408
@tonikaihola5408 Ай бұрын
Estonian is very much related to Finnish, don’t forget about our dear neighbor 🇪🇪
@overkongen34
@overkongen34 Ай бұрын
@@tonikaihola5408 There's the Hungarian language too, but it's nowhere near as closely related to Finnish as Estonian is. Uralic, but a more distant branch of it.
@tigerman1978
@tigerman1978 23 күн бұрын
​@@tonikaihola5408 Finnish and Estonian are both on the finnic branch of uralic languages. Norwegian, danish and swedish as well as icelandic are germanic languages, so they are indeed different language families.
@tonikaihola5408
@tonikaihola5408 23 күн бұрын
@@tigerman1978 I was responding to the claim that "Finnish is not related to any European language"
@tigerman1978
@tigerman1978 22 күн бұрын
@@tonikaihola5408 yeah, finnish very much are related to other european languages.. not just the nordic ones
@jonasholmqvist5231
@jonasholmqvist5231 8 ай бұрын
As people *always* get this confused: Modern Icelandic doesn’t sound like Old Norse. Not even a little. Both Icelandic grammar and words are very close to Old Norse, but the pronunciation has changed tremendously. (While pretty much all linguists know this very well, people in general seem unaware of it.)
@anton7354
@anton7354 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, we have only indirect knowledge of how actually Old Norse sounded. 🙂
@Lindormber
@Lindormber 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Their double LL's pronounced as TL etc. And all the aspiration everywhere (breathiness).
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 6 ай бұрын
@@anton7354 Well sort of. We have the spelling, as Icelandic was at the very least still written as Old Norse up until the 1400s. Exact pronunciation will always just be an educated guess.
@vampyricon7026
@vampyricon7026 6 ай бұрын
Well, we have indirect knowledge of everything, so everything is just an "educated guess". It makes no sense to single out the pronunciation of ancient languages as something particularly unknown when we have mountains of evidence from how sounds change, to what words Old Norse speakers never spell wrong, to comparative evidence with all the other Indo-European languages that to claim that "we didn't KNOW how Old Norse sounded" is either simple ignorance or selective skepticism.
@anton7354
@anton7354 6 ай бұрын
@@vampyricon7026 > is either simple ignorance or selective skepticism. Potentially both 😁
@PetterVessel
@PetterVessel 10 ай бұрын
As a norwegian, I am so happy over icelandic language. I don't understand icelandic, but I respect that language very much.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
However you can understand icelandic cos old icelandic and old norwegian were the same idiom and have the same roots just compare old Norwegian with old Icelandic it's the same dialect separated by geographical isolation 💡💡💡🥂🥂🥂🥂 go ahead and find your happiness 😊
@Bubajumba
@Bubajumba 10 ай бұрын
@@TuaTeMauAkauAtea No he wont, I have plenty of Icelandic friends and I can't understand nothing when they are speaking. Maybe a simple word here and there, but understand the language no and I speak one of the closest dialects to old Norwegian.
@Ugleseth
@Ugleseth 10 ай бұрын
​@@TuaTeMauAkauAteaMost Norwegian people don't understand Icelandic or old Norwegian for that sake. Very different from how we speak now
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
​@@UglesethYou distorted what I said above so that a Norwegian who speaks modern Norwegian would understand modern Icelandic, and better study and speak old Icelandic because from it, modern Icelandic becomes easier to understand. I said this because I know well that modern Icelandic is quite separate from Norwegian and other Viking Norse languages today. Unfortunately, the separation was so profound that there is no current intelligibility between Icelandic and the Scandinavian languages of the European continent. There is only random exchange of words between them. The same thing for a current Icelander, he needs to study Old Norwegian and speak this language well and from then on, modern Norwegian becomes much easier and more accessible for him because there is no direct intelligibility between Icelandic and Norwegian. But as the 2 languages share a strong history together with Old Norse, they can both have a linguistic exchange and reach a deep natural understanding because they are sister languages, even though they are heavily changed as they are now.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
​@@Bubajumba You distorted what I said above so that a Norwegian who speaks modern Norwegian would understand modern Icelandic, and better study and speak old Icelandic because from it, modern Icelandic becomes easier to understand. I said this because I know well that modern Icelandic is quite separate from Norwegian and other Viking Norse languages ​​today. Unfortunately, the separation was so profound that there is no current intelligibility between Icelandic and the Scandinavian languages ​​of the European continent. There is only random exchange of words between them. The same thing for a current Icelander, he needs to study Old Norwegian and speak this language well and from then on, modern Norwegian becomes much easier and more accessible for him because there is no direct intelligibility between Icelandic and Norwegian. But as the 2 languages ​​share a strong history together with Old Norse, they can both have a linguistic exchange and reach a deep natural understanding because they are sister languages, even though they are heavily changed as they are now.
@Pahis1
@Pahis1 10 ай бұрын
This is a bit difficult for the Finn because you can pronounce them like they are written there (as she did) or more like Swedes would pronounce. Minor correction is finns would have Mjölnir and Asgård. I think she said Mjolnir and Asgard. Again Å isn't a finnish letter so we would have to pronounce it the swedish way. As she mentioned we have our own mythology, so we don't really have our own words for these. Interested to hear that they study this a lot in other nordic countries. We just quickly mention them in Finland. At least when and where I went to school.
@vicolin6126
@vicolin6126 10 ай бұрын
Good point! Also, for the record, "Mjolnir" is spelled "Mjölner", in Swedish. "Mjöl" is the Swedish word for "Flour", so in a modern setting the name of the hammer could be literally interpreted and "The flour maker". The name is however meant to mean something along the lines of "The Crusher" or "The Pulverizer". So, not too far off I guess.
@alexj9603
@alexj9603 10 ай бұрын
​@@vicolin6126Interesting. So it's related to the English word "mill", which is also a device that pulverizes grain into flour. Similarly, in German we have "mahlen" (to grind), "Mühle" (mill) and "Mehl" (flour).
@vicolin6126
@vicolin6126 10 ай бұрын
@@alexj9603 Not exactly, but all of our languages are related. "Mjöl" is flour, while "kvarn" is mill. "Mala" means " to grind". So, I was only taking the name "mjölner" and interpreting it in modern Swedish. "Mjölnare" = "person who makes flour". My point was that the name can still be somewhat understood if you interpret it this way.
@alexj9603
@alexj9603 10 ай бұрын
@@vicolin6126 Sure. If you go into scientific details, things get more complicated. But along the broad lines it doesn't seem completely wrong to "translate" Mjölnir as "Müller" (mill owner or person who makes flour ). I guess I'll call that hammer by this name from now 😝.
@ulricaandrae4381
@ulricaandrae4381 10 ай бұрын
Finland has great and interesting mythology of their own, I hope she has a chance to tell the others about it some day.
@AngeloTelesforo
@AngeloTelesforo 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting how the girl from Iceland had so much background on the subject. I love the way Icelanders keep their language alive. I heard it’s the language that has changed the least in the past 500 years.
@bgt-zephyr
@bgt-zephyr 10 ай бұрын
1000 years *
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
Icelandic was changed a bit, but it still looks similar to Norse, as the dude that created Icelandic (by slightly modifying West Norse) didn’t modify it too much, just enough for it to be another language, but it is still very similar in spelling, and most words are cognates, and most conjugated forms for most of the cognates are the same, and, other Norse languages like Faroese and Old Norwegian / Old Danish / Old Swedish are also very similar to Norse, but they are like simplified Norse with spelling that’s a bit more different than Icelandic spelling, and there’s also East Norse which is similar to West Norse, but kinda different at the same time! However, each language was created by one dude, and languages do not belong to the groups of ppl that were made to learn them, and it’s incorrect to say ‘their’ language etc, and, the pretty languages, including all the Norse / Germanic / Nordic languages and the modern Celtic languages and a few others, were inspired by beautiful nature, and Norse was created by a warrior / raider dude with a lot of natural artistic talent, and the other Norse languages were created by modifying Norse, so they all come directly from Norse - technically, the creation of new languages doesn’t depend of how many thousands of years have passed etc, it all depends on whether a new dude decides to modify a language or multiple languages (and create a new language by using them as a base and by creating new words) and it also depends on how much he decides to modify them, so, there are many languages that are the same as they were one thousand years ago, because no new dudes decided to created a Middle and a Modern version etc, but there are also many languages that were modified at least twice or even more than twice, which have at least an Old version and a Middle version and a Modern version that are different languages basically, but, Icelandic wasn’t modified that much, so there isn’t much difference between Modern Icelandic and Middle Icelandic and Old Icelandic, as they look like the same language, from what I have seen so far, but languages such as English and Norwegian and Dutch etc were changed more, so the Modern versions look quite different, and English comes mostly from Norse, anyway, and Dutch was also influenced a lot by both English and Norse! Anyways, superiority terms and possessives like Angel and love and oro and girl and their only reflect me, and cannot be misused by ppl in any way!
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
I highly recommend learning the prettiest languages ever Norse / Icelandic / Dutch / Norwegian / Gothic / Faroese / Danish, which are as pretty / refined / poetic / magical / perfect / heavenly / amazing / elvish / logical / cool / unique / special / epic as English, as these heavenly languages are way too pretty not to know and the most fun to see and hear and speak and learn etc, and also Welsh and the other modern Celtic languages, which are also super gorgeous and elvish, and, I highly recommend listening to all the Skáld songs and memorizing all the lyrics, including the songs Óðínn and Flúga and Rún and NorðrLjós and Gleipnir and LjósÁlfr and Grótti and SólarLjóð and Hross and Troll Kalla Mik and SæKonungar and Ríðum Ríðum and ElverHøy and Níu and ValFreyjuDrápa and Rauðr Loginn Brann and Fimbulvetr and Villeman Og Magnhild and Hinn Mikli Dreki and Då Månen Sken / Yggdrasill etc, as they are the best introduction to Norse / Germanic / Nordic languages, and they all have super epic and beautiful melodies as well as pretty vocals, and they perfectly fit these heavenly languages, and are very áddìctive like the Norse languages - today’s topic was real fun, as my protector Chip is the real-life Odin / Thor / Loki etc, and I am The Freya, and we are the beings who reflect all the interesting characters from Norse mythology and from Greek mythology etc and from Disney and stories and lyrics and poems etc and The Gods etc!
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
I am upper intermediate level in both Old Norse and Icelandic, and I have the right Norse pronunciation, which is the most logical, and by the way, I will use DH for the TH sound in the English words this and that, which is the approximant of D and not the approximant of T like the TH in the English word think, and I will use AO for the ‘closed’ A sound that is like an A and O sound said 2gether in one sound (similar to the A sound in Hungarian) that melts into a soft O sound! For example... - hvat sounds like hvat or vat or kvat - mæra sounds like mera - ávast sounds like avast - nágrindr sounds like naogrind:r - líkligr sounds like liklig:r or likliguhr - frænda sounds like freinda or freoynda or frenda - þat sounds like that - ræðir sounds like reidhir - hárr sounds like haruhr or har:r (could have also been har / harr) - gæfr sounds like gev:r or gevuhr - hverfa sounds like hverva or verva or kverva (any of them or all 3 could’ve been used) Also... - hæll sounds like heyl - saltr sounds like solt:r - mæla sounds like mala - drápa sounds like drapa or dropa - kæra sounds like kaera or kaira - ferr sounds like fer:r - jafna sounds like yavna - hœgri sounds like heoyri - girðing sounds like girdhing - hádegi sounds like haodegi - ørendislaust sounds like eorendislaust The word... - verr sounds like ver - ekki sounds like eki or ehki - þverra sounds like thverra - gegna sounds like gekna - vefja sounds like vevya - yfir sounds like ɪvɪr as in Icelandic - ætla sounds like etla - ofn sounds like ovn - náliga sounds like naoliga - sauma could have been pronounced either saima or seoyma like in Icelandic or both or even sauma as it is written - ofleti sounds like ofleti The emphasis of stress in Norse languages such as Norse and Icelandic etc is always at the beginning of the word - for compound words made of multiple smaller words, one should add a bit of stress at the beginning of each word that the compound word is made of and the most stress always at the beginning of the compound word... I don’t think there was any fixed way of pronouncing the diphthongs, and it’s most likely that the pronunciation of diphthongs such as AU would differ depending on the word, including pronunciations such as ai / au / ao / eoy / oy / ey etc, and it may have also differed depending on the region and accent, and the Æ in Norse can have many pronunciations, depending on the word, so it can sound like e / ei / a / eoy / oey / uey / ai / ea / ae etc, depending on what sound sounds best and the most natural and easiest to say in each word, so one should use one’s intuition a lot in Norse... The Rs are always different depending on the region and depending of the speaker in every language, but in Germanic languages, a soft normal R is usually used by most speakers and by younger speakers, and I highly recommend using a soft normal R in Norse and in all other languages that aren’t English as soft Rs have the best and most refined sound, soft Rs that are pronounced as fast as possible being the types of Rs that truly suit such refined languages as Norse and the other Germanic languages, whereas hard or prolonged or thrilled Rs sound very harsh and unrefined... By the way, it’s also important to know that in Norse and Icelandic the G is usually pronounced like a K sound, especially at the end of the word, and in many words the G is pronounced K even in the middle of the word, and there are also some words where the G is pronounced as a K even when it is at the beginning of the word, so it is normal to hear a lot of K sounds when there is a G in spelling - for example, lots of speakers of Icelandic will pronounce even the G in góðan (góðan daginn) as a soft K sound, without even realizing, and this pronunciation rule comes from Norse!
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
Here are some of the most important sounds + pronunciation rules in Icelandic, as Icelandic has one of the easiest / prettiest / coolest pronunciations ever, having a category 1 pronunciation with super cool modern sounds! - the eth letter ð is an approximant of the letter D (a less obvious D similar to the D in the Spanish word nada and like the TH in the English words this and that) and the thorn letter þ is an approximant of T (a less obvious T that’s sort of lisped, and it is the same sound as the TH in the English words think and thing, though it sounds closer to a normal T sound in Icelandic) More pronunciation rules and sounds in Icelandic... - the HV is pronounced KV - the NN is pronounced as a TN if it comes after Æ and after EI / EY and after a long vowel such as Á / É / Í / Ó / Ú (but it is a normal N sound if it comes after the short vowels A / E / I / O / U and in inn word combinations, and I recommend adding a very soft breathy H sound to the ‘inn’ word ending in masculine words to make it a bit different from the word ending ‘in’ which is the feminine word ending, like I do, as I pronounce the inn more like ihn in masculine nouns and masculine adjectives that have the inn word ending, which represents the definite article in nouns, tho there are also three articles that aren’t added to the noun, namely hinn and hin and hið, so, one can say hinn stormur or stormurinn and hinn storm or storminn as both mean the storm in nominative and accusative) - the LL is usually pronounced TL in most words and if the LL is at the end of the word it sounds more like a weak T sound - the RN is pronounced with an extra soft ‘nasal’ T sound between the R and the N (so a word like þarna sounds like thartna) - the FL / FN letter combinations are pronounced PL / PN (so F becomes a P sound if it’s before an L or an N) - the G is ultra soft in short words like ég and mig etc, so it is pronounced more like an H sound (so ég sounds like yeh) and the G in the middle of the words is kinda soft (in words like segja / saga / segir etc it is a soft G that is still a G sound and not an H) and the Gs and GGs can also sound like Ks in many of the words if they are at the end of the word or even in the middle of the word and sometimes even at the beginning of the word (same as in Old Norse) tho Gs are usually pronounced like a normal G sound if they are at the beginning of the word (except for a few words) - the KK / TT etc is pronounced more like HK / HT as a soft breathy H sound is included before the K / T sound when there is a double consonant and even when there are two different consonants (for example, ekki sounds like ehki and óútreiknanlegt sounds like outreihnanleht etc) - the letter F is usually pronounced like a V if it’s in the middle of the word or at the end of the word (so leyfa sounds like leyva) and it is pronounced like a normal F sound if it’s at the beginning of the word or very close to the beginning of the word (for example, if a words starts with af, the af is pronounced af, not av) The diphthongs and umlauts and vowels in Icelandic... - AU is pronounced EOI (normal e sound + normal o sound + normal i sound said 2gether fast in one sound) - EI / EY are pronounced EI / EY (same as they are spellt) - the Æ / æ is usually pronounced ai in most Icelandic words (but hvenær seems to be pronounced kvenar and not really kvenair, so it depends on the word) - Ö is an EO sound (normal e sound + normal o sound said 2gether in one sound, like the œ in the French word cœur) - Ó is usually pronounced OU - O is usually pronounced UO and sometimes as an O sound (depending on the word) - Ú is a normal u sound - U is a more rounded YU sound (like the u in the French word mur and it is also the same sound as the Ü in Hungarian and German and the same sound as the UU in Dutch in words like muur and duur) tho in some words it is pronounced like a normal U sound (especially at the beginning of the word in words like ungur, and when there are multiple Us in the same word it’s usually the last U that is pronounced like YU and most other Us are pronounced like a normal U sound in that kind of words) - Á is an AU sound in almost every word (there are only a few exceptions) - A is a normal a sound and the A before NG / NK is pronounced like an AU sound just like the Á (so að ganga sounds like ath gaunga and it means to walk) - É is an YE sound (normal i sound + normal e sound) - E is a normal e sound (full e sound) - Í / Ý is a normal i sound - I / Y is a half i sound (this sound is very similar to how the i is pronounced in most English words like fit and chips and this, so it’s sort of like a weak i that goes more towards an e sound, but it isn’t a full e sound, and it isn’t a full i sound either, so it’s right between an i sound and an e sound)
@sinebachrenleff847
@sinebachrenleff847 10 ай бұрын
As a dane, who’s obsessed with norse mythology, is was dying to bug in and explain EVERYTHING. It was however also interesting to hear how the other nordic countries pronounce the names and things from norse mythology
@Villstyringen
@Villstyringen 8 ай бұрын
The girl representing Norway does not pronounce properly in Norwegian. Does she know Norse mytholgy and names at all? Åsgård.
@Niobesnuppa
@Niobesnuppa 4 ай бұрын
It's pronounced properly for her dialect. Åsgard can be pronounced with a long Å, or as "Åssgår" depending on your dialect. My parents say "Åssgår", while I say "Åååsgar".
@Villstyringen
@Villstyringen 4 ай бұрын
@@Niobesnuppa Her dialect? What dialect is that? She pronounces Mjølner wrong f.ex. first time, correct second time,
@rickardt1222
@rickardt1222 4 ай бұрын
In her language it would be آسگارد 😂
@huldu
@huldu 3 ай бұрын
I got the same feeling from the swedish lady, I felt like they were reading the word shown(in english). Pretty certain we in Sweden say AsgÅrd, the swedish lady did not say it like that but more like Asgard which sounded odd. There were some other nitpicks but it could be dialects and all of that depending on where in Sweden you grew up.
@elmsigreen
@elmsigreen 22 күн бұрын
The Icelandic girl was also wrong about a few things. She said that Frigg and Ásgarður were spelt Frig and Ásagarður which completely changes the pronunciation.
@oh2mp
@oh2mp 10 ай бұрын
The Finnish girl was a little outsider in this because Finnish is totally different language group and Norse mythology is foreign mythology from Finns' point of view.
@kristena9285
@kristena9285 10 ай бұрын
Yes, all these names/concepts have Germanic origins. :-)
@Onnarashi
@Onnarashi 10 ай бұрын
Yes, altough there were Norse people interacting with Finns and vice versa and Finland spent centuries as a Swedish colony, so it's not crazy to think that the Finns learned about the Norse pantheon through cultueral exchanges and trade with their Norse neighbours.
@GOAT-rl2uq
@GOAT-rl2uq 10 ай бұрын
I would not say totally foreign. There has been a major overcorrection regarding the relationship between Finnish and Norse mythology. Several key concepts came to Finnish mythology from Germanic speaking peoples.
@vaenii5056
@vaenii5056 10 ай бұрын
@@GOAT-rl2uq You really like spamming this, do you.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
The opening of topic is full correct Finns aren't weren't and never will be nordics and germanics they're Asians Uralics finnics altaics til today, they have your own religion language and idioms separated from the moriec vikings germanics in History simple as that. Neighborhood doesn't means never means equality in culture, Langs and beliefs and ADN too...
@grandmakida6591
@grandmakida6591 10 ай бұрын
Hey, Magda from Sweden here! I know Oden is more proper, but Odin is also a way to say it. I should've mentioned both but forgot at that moment. (Fick ingen info innan vi filmade så kunde inte förbereda) Also, I'm not sure but perhaps dialects could be a reason? Thanks for correcting and watching~
@Vinterfrid
@Vinterfrid 10 ай бұрын
I do understand that were little time for you to prepare since you did not get to know the words beforehand. You did a good job despite that! :)
@PSimonsen
@PSimonsen 10 ай бұрын
I believe that Oden is more of english version. Odin (DK/NO) is the correct way, and when a swede pronouns it, the I is more visible/hearable.
@MelinaJamiee
@MelinaJamiee 10 ай бұрын
@@PSimonsenactually as a swede we do say Oden, and in the English version they use Odin. Look it up.
@christiangudmundsson8390
@christiangudmundsson8390 10 ай бұрын
It's fine, it was a long time since I learned of these in school and I would be unsure of some of them, like Heimdall. Also I'm reading on wikipedia that Tyr was called Ti in sweden (this is under Tyr though, quite confusing). Would've been helpful if you guys had had a few minutes to check up on these things before shooting.
@hellefur7861
@hellefur7861 10 ай бұрын
I think that Odin are a Common way og saying it, in Skåne (Halland and Blekinge), mayby because of the danish influence, from their occupation of the regions? I know that that is the variation that boys and PET's are named.
@philjones3824
@philjones3824 10 ай бұрын
As a lifelong fan of Norse folklore, I love to hear you folks to try fun words like Jormungandr, Yggdrasil, and Jotunheim.
@blue2mato312
@blue2mato312 8 ай бұрын
We have a range of mountains called Jotunheimen in Norway. I have never heard the word Jørmungandr in my life, but I see that’s another word for Midgardsormen.
@lostword23
@lostword23 7 ай бұрын
ДА!)
@niravelniflheim1858
@niravelniflheim1858 6 ай бұрын
@@blue2mato312 Huh. Jormangandr is one of Loki's kids. (He had 3 very weird kids).
@blue2mato312
@blue2mato312 6 ай бұрын
@@niravelniflheim1858 Yes he was one of Lokes children, but became Midgardsormen when the gods (æsene) threw him into to the see. In school they never mentioned his name before he was Midgardsormen. The names/words of the OP are not difficult to pronounce though as a Norwegian.
@TheOnlyToblin
@TheOnlyToblin 6 ай бұрын
Jormungandr would not be pronounced at all in Swedish. We use the "midgårdsormen" word for him, which is literally midgard serpent.
@sorenandrews1078
@sorenandrews1078 8 ай бұрын
One thing I notice about the differences in culture here is, the American Woman is VERY giggly and says "like" a lot, while the others are more calm & laid back. I'm an American Man living in Sweden, and it's always fun to see things you never notice before
@SuStel
@SuStel 6 ай бұрын
They chose an American airhead on purpose to make the distinctions more pronounced. Otherwise they have a video about slight differences in vowels and consonants.
@mramisuzuki6962
@mramisuzuki6962 6 ай бұрын
@@SuStelit’s pretty obvious how related the spoken language are with German, English, Dutch, and Scandinavian. So when you using extremely common old words there isn’t really a difference. Poor Finish girl.
@drakarra
@drakarra 2 ай бұрын
As an American woman, I found her pretty obnoxious. I'm someone who's passionate about mythology and language, and damn was it was frustrating that a person who still sounds like a high school student was representing our nationality in this conversation.
@andieslandies
@andieslandies 10 ай бұрын
The letter that is used in Icelandic at 04:38 was previously used in Old Norse, Old Swedish, and Old English. In English, it was called 'thorn'.
@steveparkes
@steveparkes 10 ай бұрын
It's also why you see 'Ye Olde' abused so much n things that pretend to be old. The early printing presses didn't have a thorn character (the typeset came from Germany which had already dropped the character) so Y was used. We never said 'Ye' we said 'Þe' which was changed to 'the' when printers finally noticed that 'th' was a much better swap than a Y :)
@JJJ111JJJ
@JJJ111JJJ 6 ай бұрын
I just want to point out that Old Norse doesn't equal Old Norwegian. Swedish, Norwegian, Danish and Icelandic are all derived from Old Norse. Old Swedish, which descended from Old Norse, also did have the thorn however. I just thought maybe you were equating Norse with Norwegian since you didn't mention any other languages than Norse, Swedish and English.
@einarmar7445
@einarmar7445 6 ай бұрын
It's not really just a letter, It's a rune which means it's supposed to have magical properties.
@Aetheraev
@Aetheraev 6 ай бұрын
In fact both thorn and eth (the letter she mentions earlier) existed in old English although they were used somewhat interchangeably there compared to Icelandic where they represent unvoiced and voiced "th" sounds respectively
@SvendleBerries
@SvendleBerries 4 ай бұрын
@@Aetheraev Its fun to see how often eth just turned into "d" in languages that used to use eth. Example: Icelandic - brauð; Norwegian - brød; English - bread. Its the same for Odin and many other words.
@tuuli4002
@tuuli4002 10 ай бұрын
Some of these names were a bit weird ones to pronounce as a Finn since Norse mythology is foreign mythology to us (I'm still really glad that Finland was part of this🥰🥰 Thanks!). I could sometimes get mixed up how to say these the "Finnish" way, because I would have heard how to pronounce them in English way... well that would mainly only be Thor😅 Or otherwise mix it up an accidentally pronounce it more tge Swedish way than the Finnish way😅 And I think it's also a good thing to acknowledge that Finnish is from different language group than the rest here.
@GOAT-rl2uq
@GOAT-rl2uq 10 ай бұрын
Finnish mythology is certainly distinct from Norse, but I wouldn't say totally foreign. Finnish mythology is really a mixture of Uralic, North Germanic and Baltic elements mixing together since the Bronze age.
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
I am upper intermediate level in both Old Norse and Icelandic, and I have the right Norse pronunciation, which is the most logical, and by the way, I will use DH for the TH sound in the English words this and that, which is the approximant of D and not the approximant of T like the TH in the English word think, and I will use AO for the ‘closed’ A sound that is like an A and O sound said 2gether in one sound (similar to the A sound in Hungarian) that melts into a soft O sound! For example... - hvat sounds like hvat or vat or kvat - mæra sounds like mera - ávast sounds like avast - nágrindr sounds like naogrind:r - líkligr sounds like liklig:r or likliguhr - frænda sounds like freinda or freoynda or frenda - þat sounds like that - ræðir sounds like reidhir - hárr sounds like haruhr or har:r (could have also been har / harr) - gæfr sounds like gev:r or gevuhr - hverfa sounds like hverva or verva or kverva (any of them or all 3 could’ve been used) Also... - hæll sounds like heyl - saltr sounds like solt:r - mæla sounds like mala - drápa sounds like drapa or dropa - kæra sounds like kaera or kaira - ferr sounds like fer:r - jafna sounds like yavna - hœgri sounds like heoyri - girðing sounds like girdhing - hádegi sounds like haodegi - ørendislaust sounds like eorendislaust The word... - verr sounds like ver - ekki sounds like eki or ehki - þverra sounds like thverra - gegna sounds like gekna - vefja sounds like vevya - yfir sounds like ɪvɪr as in Icelandic - ætla sounds like etla - ofn sounds like ovn - náliga sounds like naoliga - sauma could have been pronounced either saima or seoyma like in Icelandic or both or even sauma as it is written - ofleti sounds like ofleti The emphasis of stress in Norse languages such as Norse and Icelandic etc is always at the beginning of the word - for compound words made of multiple smaller words, one should add a bit of stress at the beginning of each word that the compound word is made of and the most stress always at the beginning of the compound word... I don’t think there was any fixed way of pronouncing the diphthongs, and it’s most likely that the pronunciation of diphthongs such as AU would differ depending on the word, including pronunciations such as ai / au / ao / eoy / oy / ey etc, and it may have also differed depending on the region and accent, and the Æ in Norse can have many pronunciations, depending on the word, so it can sound like e / ei / a / eoy / oey / uey / ai / ea / ae etc, depending on what sound sounds best and the most natural and easiest to say in each word, so one should use one’s intuition a lot in Norse... The Rs are always different depending on the region and depending of the speaker in every language, but in Germanic languages, a soft normal R is usually used by most speakers and by younger speakers, and I highly recommend using a soft normal R in Norse and in all other languages that aren’t English as soft Rs have the best and most refined sound, soft Rs that are pronounced as fast as possible being the types of Rs that truly suit such refined languages as Norse and the other Germanic languages, whereas hard or prolonged or thrilled Rs sound very harsh and unrefined... By the way, it’s also important to know that in Norse and Icelandic the G is usually pronounced like a K sound, especially at the end of the word, and in many words the G is pronounced K even in the middle of the word, and there are also some words where the G is pronounced as a K even when it is at the beginning of the word, so it is normal to hear a lot of K sounds when there is a G in spelling - for example, lots of speakers of Icelandic will pronounce even the G in góðan (góðan daginn) as a soft K sound, without even realizing, and this pronunciation rule comes from Norse!
@gavinrolls1054
@gavinrolls1054 6 ай бұрын
​@@GOAT-rl2uqUralic and Baltic are the same.. unless you mean slavic?
@KristianKumpula
@KristianKumpula 10 ай бұрын
I'm guessing whoever made the phonetic transcriptions isn't particularly familiar with phonetics. Like for example in the American pronunciation of "Loki", there's a quite obvious diphthong in the first vowel and yet it was written as a monophthong.
@kurean5808
@kurean5808 9 ай бұрын
Btw fun fact. Norway has like a billion dialects so I got genuinly confused for some of the pronounciations the norwegian girl had. Cause it's different from what I'm used to.
@charbelkhoury3986
@charbelkhoury3986 7 ай бұрын
Because I think the norwegian girl is not even norwegian like she's not native her name is Farida that's an arab name so I don't understand why they picked her
@annominous826
@annominous826 6 ай бұрын
@@charbelkhoury3986 She sounds native to me.
@corinas.harvik6404
@corinas.harvik6404 6 ай бұрын
@@charbelkhoury3986 She could be first generation born in Norway and therefore the name, but I agree that she doesn’t sound native to me, and I can hear it especially when she pronounces Mjølner. She might also have been born abroad but living in Norway since she was a kid, maybe.
@rustypenny
@rustypenny 4 ай бұрын
@@charbelkhoury3986Yeah she didn’t sound native
@damo06ab
@damo06ab 8 күн бұрын
I like how most of the participants smiled hard after all the danish pronounciations. Almost couldn't keep a good laugh in.
@GrasslandsG81
@GrasslandsG81 Күн бұрын
They're thinking of hot potatoes...
@Charl_es19
@Charl_es19 10 ай бұрын
As a mithology fan , i like to hear the names of characters from people of Nordic countries , even though i knew how theses words are pronounce ,the pronunciation of Mjolnir suprised me the most
@applemos6714
@applemos6714 10 ай бұрын
Mjölnir (is), Mjölner (fi, sv) and Mjølner (no, da). The ö/ø is pronounced similar to the i in bird. But the length varies. To my Swedish ear it sounded just as different accents of English. E.g. Australian vs Irish.
@elincarlsson6388
@elincarlsson6388 10 ай бұрын
I always cringe at the English way. It was always Mjölner for me and then I saw Marvels Thor 😂 aj aj aj... a god of myth on the big screen and what comes out of his mouth? Mjooolniiiiiir 😂. It sounds like how someone from "Gnällbältet" would say it, (a very whiny dialect of Swedish.) What is worse is there is an actual swede in those movies being forced to say it in English.
@moondaughter1004
@moondaughter1004 10 ай бұрын
@@elincarlsson6388it's also kind of funny that the supposed Nordic god is played by a hot Australian hunk
@inotoni6148
@inotoni6148 10 ай бұрын
Actually it's not "Norse mythology", but Germanic. After all, the Germanic tribes of the time also included the Nordic tribes. Over the centuries, different countries and languages developed from these tribes. In German, just like in Norwegian, some days of the week are named after old gods and the old gods are exactly the same. And some first names (Torsten, Wotan, Freya, Hildegard) also come from the old gods.The entire history has been distorted through films and comics.
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
The special letters ð and þ are the eth and the thorn sounds, which are approximants of D and T - these letters are the original letters that were used to spell the sounds, and both Norse and Icelandic have them both, and Old English also has them both, and Faroese and Elfdalian have the ð letter, and I think Gothic has them too, and, the UR ending from Icelandic is spelled R in Norse, for example, vindr vs vindur, which mean wind, and, the word dal means dale / valley! I highly recommend learning the prettiest languages ever Norse / Icelandic / Dutch / Norwegian / Gothic / Faroese / Danish, which are as pretty / refined / poetic / magical / perfect / heavenly / amazing / elvish / logical / cool / unique / special / epic as English, as these heavenly languages are way too pretty not to know and the most fun to see and hear and speak and learn etc, and also Welsh and the other modern Celtic languages, which are also super gorgeous and elvish! By the way, I highly recommend listening to all the Skáld songs and memorizing all the lyrics, including the songs Óðínn and Flúga and Rún and NorðrLjós and Gleipnir and LjósÁlfr and Grótti and SólarLjóð and Hross and Troll Kalla Mik and SæKonungar and Ríðum Ríðum and ElverHøy and Níu and ValFreyjuDrápa and Rauðr Loginn Brann and Fimbulvetr and Villeman Og Magnhild and Hinn Mikli Dreki and Då Månen Sken / Yggdrasill etc, as they are the best introduction to Norse / Germanic / Nordic languages, and they all have super epic and beautiful melodies as well as pretty vocals, and they perfectly fit these heavenly languages, and are very áddìctive like the Norse languages - today’s topic was real fun, as my protector Chip is the real-life Odin / Thor / Loki etc, and I am The Freya, and we are the beings who reflect all the interesting characters from Norse mythology and from Greek mythology etc and from Disney and stories and lyrics and poems etc and The Gods etc!
@Captainumerica
@Captainumerica 10 ай бұрын
The "gard" in Asgard can be also found in slavic languages as "gord", "gorod" or "grad". Because it means "enclosure", so applies to a garden or a fortified settlement.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 ай бұрын
Like how a royal guard protects the king. Or the verb guarding.
@Vinterfrid
@Vinterfrid 10 ай бұрын
But the correct pronounciation is "gård" (sounds like "goard"). The letters 'A' and 'Å' are pronounced quite differently.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 10 ай бұрын
​@@HappyBeezerStudios: Garden is in german a Garten, in my dialect spoken (german pronoucion!) Gaarda. Guard , guarding comes from french language, Royal ( body)guard would be in germanic something like Kinglic ( Life) Watch as unit or kinglic ( life) warden as person. Königliche Leibwache/ königlicher Leibwächter. Related words to warden are Wächter/ Wärter / Wart.
@KristianLyubenovYT
@KristianLyubenovYT 10 ай бұрын
Bulgarian has both gord (горд) and grad (град), but they have different meanings. Gord means proud and grad means city
@PennyAfNorberg
@PennyAfNorberg 9 ай бұрын
Vikings has some old-norse names for some cities/places in the east. Miklagård is one
@brian0902
@brian0902 10 ай бұрын
I wish we could still refer to all the Germanic/Norse gods in English as English speakers traditionally did. For example, Odin in Old English and, I believe, Middle English is Woden. Thor is Thunor, Freyr is Frea, Baldr is Bældæg, Loki is Lōc or Loptr, Njörðr is Neorð, Heimdallr is Hēimdǣl, Skadi is Scēaðe, and Tyr is Tiw. There are many more examples I haven't mentioned. Fun fact: many of our days are named after these gods. Tyr/Tiw is Tuesday or, as Old English called it, Tiwesdæg. Odin/Woden is Wednesday/Wōdnesdæg, Thor/Thunor is Thursday/þunresdæg, and Frīg/Frigg is Friday/frīġedæġ.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 10 ай бұрын
Compare english day names to french day names and compare what germanic/ Roman gods did: Tiu/Mars, Wodan/ Merkur, Thor/ Jupiter, Freia/ Venus. And moon- la lune.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
Theses gods are the same the Kurganian Indo Europeans gods, just change the dialects of Kurganian, french, english, greek , danish, ukranian, latvian they all have the same gods the rituals and feasts and clothes were changed by each group of each dialect bit the essence is the same. Mentally, Emotionally, today english in grammar, politics, linguistics, cultures follows the greek, french, welsh, latin views of mithology the germanics and backstages views normands curred of from all anglophony
@brian0902
@brian0902 10 ай бұрын
@@TuaTeMauAkauAtea I’m aware of the PIE ancestry to this but a lot of the old gods we say in English was changed to be a bit more nordic sounding when we have the names for the same Germanic gods already there but we don’t say them for some reason I think Viking and ether reason idk but confusing
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
​@@brian0902 Don't be intrigued by the Kurgan heritage in European culture, it is a fact, because it is precisely this that justifies the mixture of beliefs and mythologies between Celts, Germans, Latin Slavs and Hellenics in a profound way. Don't let distrust lead you into error and denial, the Kurganian scientifically is already a solid scientific reality from 4 centuries of intense hard-earned studies in the international community, it was not a gift from heaven or a miracle, they were scientific achievements that should never be ignored or disrespected , question yourself and evolve in a better direction. Goodbye, without more for now with you and I wish you good studies since today.
@brian0902
@brian0902 10 ай бұрын
@@TuaTeMauAkauAteaI know this, and I tell people down to it even when people's ideology changes, like the Iranian peoples accepting Islam or many Europeans accepting Christianity. When we look into DNA, we see characteristics with PIE culture and DNA. I don't know why; people are too shocked about it. Before civilization, people are nomads, and humanity has a common ancestor. So, even besides PIE, why do people try to separate themselves from other people? It makes zero sense to me when the only thing truly dividing us is culture and skin color and even then it truly shouldn’t divide us. So why don't people even want to try to see PIE evidence and straightaway try to say that's not true is beyond me. People say, "Oh, it's just justifying European colonialism." The exact same time I told them I don't believe this PIE theory justifies the colonial history of Europe. When I go into this, I'm trying to show people about the past and how people are connected in different ways, maybe culture or DNA. I tell people there were horrible things that Europeans and other people have done, and no amount of history of the past or future will justify it. But you can't deny things without looking at the evidence that we have found.
@ristusnotta1653
@ristusnotta1653 9 ай бұрын
Why is Finland here when talking about norse mythology? 😃
@autumnphillips151
@autumnphillips151 8 ай бұрын
Because they always have to make Finland be the odd one out, lol... I saw this hilarious post from a Finn a while back giving Swedish the same treatment that Finnish often gets by having a list of the word for “hand” in every Finnic language and then the Swedish word (which is “hand”) so that Swedish could be the odd one out for once.
@barrettdecutler8979
@barrettdecutler8979 8 ай бұрын
Well, they share a land border with Sweden and are kind of on the Scandinavian peninsula. Lots of Finns speak Swedish, and their flag has the northern cross. They are often included in discussions of Nordic / Norse / Scandinavian things.
@ristusnotta1653
@ristusnotta1653 8 ай бұрын
@@barrettdecutler8979 yeah but Finland got nothing to do with the mythology and we are not taught about it 😃
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 8 ай бұрын
@@ristusnotta1653 would be interesting to have a segment of Finnish mythology and have other Nordic countries (representatives) try to pronounce it!
@Quzinqa1122
@Quzinqa1122 8 ай бұрын
​@@barrettdecutler8979 Finland is not a Scandinavian country. It is a Nordic one, though.
@gordonwallin2368
@gordonwallin2368 6 ай бұрын
Another sweet episode from thischannel. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada
@jandraelune1
@jandraelune1 10 ай бұрын
To those that have studied the Norse mythos, pronouncing the words is yet different again, but actually closer to Icelandic which shares both the spelling and pronouncing closer to how it was done back in the 600-1200s. You guys forgot to mention the days of the week are named after the Norse mythos. Wednasday: Odinsdag, Friday: Frigadag, Thursdag: Thorsdag, Tuesday: Tyrsdag, Monday: Manadag, Sunday: Sundag
@se6369
@se6369 10 ай бұрын
I think Faroese and some western Norwegian dialects are more conservative when it comes to pronounciation. With exceptions of course, Icelandic kept the Th for example.
@SebHaarfagre
@SebHaarfagre 8 ай бұрын
Well Friday is both from Frigg and Freya. I always thought of it as Freya's day (which makes more sense considering what it represents as well) however I just recently had to go back and learn more since so many reference Frigg. "Frey's day" is also closer to the English (and Norwegian) sound.
@SebHaarfagre
@SebHaarfagre 8 ай бұрын
@@se6369 Yes the "th" (both the th and d) sounds went away, sadly. For Norwegians I mean. I believe R's also diverged a bit and got less enunciated. Although it's still somewhat present.
@anyrei
@anyrei 10 ай бұрын
It's interesting to see this as a German and hearing how similar it is to some scandinavian pronounciations
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon 10 ай бұрын
frisian and dutch are similar to german
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 6 ай бұрын
I heard a language professor claim that to learn a Scandinavian language it will be easier for 95% of people to learn fluent German first, and then to forget 80% of the grammar and just wing it from there. Funnily enough, the only ones I've heard get proper good at Danish, when learning from the adult stage, have been Germans. Britts who've lived here for 30 years still cock up worse than Germans who've lived here for 5.
@Gyneco-Phobia
@Gyneco-Phobia 6 ай бұрын
@@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon Frisian and Dutch is different and both completely different from German. They aren't similar in the slightest.
@darkspacie
@darkspacie 6 ай бұрын
which language had most similarity to german? danish?
@snakeintheshadow
@snakeintheshadow 6 ай бұрын
@@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon Frisian and Dutch are closely related to Low Saxon and English. The similarities they share with German are more likely influenced by Low Saxon, which was the main language for people in the Hanse.
@wanderingbufoon
@wanderingbufoon 10 ай бұрын
Tyr: "In Danish we say *demeaning spit towards your enemy*" That made me laugh
@Captainumerica
@Captainumerica 10 ай бұрын
"I futhark in your general direction!" 💂
@lilyssingingstar2729
@lilyssingingstar2729 5 ай бұрын
This was really fascinating. As an American who has very little knowledge of this region of the world, this was eye opening. I am learning how to speak Danish so this taught me some more words and their proper pronunciations. I have only known the American pronunciations of Norse Gods and items from their mythology. This makes me excited the book I am going to start reading about Norse Mythology. This made me feel like I am connecting more to acesteral roots since I recently got ancestry results and found that I have small traces of Danish, Norwegian and Swedish. My surname actually stems from the Old Norse word "bryggja."
@NinititisA
@NinititisA 4 ай бұрын
Velkommen til det det danske sprog :)
@Rolandais
@Rolandais 6 ай бұрын
The Icelandic letters are part of Western Germanic Rune Alphabet, and was part of Danish, Norweigan, Swedish dialects of Old Norse, and Old English as well, and as someone else mentioned, the reason for them dropping out are largely due to the Printing Press being a german Invention, and making letters for it being quite a specialized skillset in the early years of its spread.
@organicperoxide4619
@organicperoxide4619 10 ай бұрын
In Norway we say Mjølner not Mjølnir
@VampyrMygg
@VampyrMygg 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, probably depends on where you're from, dialects in Norway are so varied, that these type of comparisons never feel right, all these eastern Norwegians with their rolled R :P Here on the west coast we don't have that fancy rolled R, as ours is more like in German or French.
@BigmanDogs
@BigmanDogs 9 ай бұрын
​@@VampyrMyggThe Swedish girl even said she faked her accent to sound less regional
@croucha1r237
@croucha1r237 9 ай бұрын
Thats true. But as a norwegian her accemt is very wierd​@@BigmanDogs
@larsbangpedersen8985
@larsbangpedersen8985 9 ай бұрын
Det samme i Danmark
@Villkatta
@Villkatta 9 ай бұрын
Mjølner is the bokmål way and then the dialect is changing that. The Norwegian representant should do the same as the one from sweden and do it the written way. Isnt the nynorsk similar pronounced too?
@leopartanen8752
@leopartanen8752 10 ай бұрын
In Finland, I think they don't teach Norse mythology at school, maybe briefly mentioned like Finnish mythology, but I remember at least studing Roman and Greek mythologies.
@RabbitShirak
@RabbitShirak 10 ай бұрын
I studied all three of them during my spare time.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
Finland is ever another culture idiom and mithology the uralic mithology.
@NaeniaNightingale
@NaeniaNightingale 9 ай бұрын
@@TuaTeMauAkauAtea You keep spelling it wrong, it’s mythology. I have no clue where you got the i to begin with.
@Siegfried5846
@Siegfried5846 4 ай бұрын
That's very dumb to study Roman and Greek ones instead of your own.
@Morjensful
@Morjensful 3 ай бұрын
I have no idea how to pronounce loki in finnish
@kyrpa1625
@kyrpa1625 10 ай бұрын
why was the finnish person even there? finns have finnish mythology, not norse
@turkoositerapsidi
@turkoositerapsidi 10 ай бұрын
True.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
They are hardies ignorants they put Finns with all germanics and celtics countries as england US etc they're crazy, help them all.
@esaedvik
@esaedvik 9 ай бұрын
We're always lumped in the same bunch and way less known than our Nordic brethren. Not really anyone's fault per se, but they should've done some research. Now ask the other Nordics to pronounce names from Finnish mythology and they'll be utterly lost. 99.9% of them would be completely unknown to them plus the language is so different, it's mostly impossible for them to even guess. Even Finns don't know a ton about their own mythology, Kalevala being the obvious standout and maybe a few songs/colloquialisms/proverbs.
@johannalehtonen9590
@johannalehtonen9590 9 ай бұрын
@larsliamvilhelm No, you would sing them still.. for the same reason many Finns speak "rally English", it just goes the other way around. And please, do a favour and never ever try say out loud "perkele" ! (that goes for English speakers too)
@antcommander1367
@antcommander1367 9 ай бұрын
​@@esaedvikyeah, next time woman goes to pick lingonberries. sits on one and becomes pregnant from that "lingonberry"... really shouldn't believe her
@Benwut
@Benwut 5 ай бұрын
100% relateable with what the icelandic woman said about connecting to your roots. I'm half-arab half-mexican, and I love studying Myan mythology and learning Yucatec, as well as learning about bedouin culture and pre-islamic arab traditions.
@afrobrur2065
@afrobrur2065 13 күн бұрын
In norwegian, we would definitely not say Mjolnir like the norwegian suggested here. it would be similar to the Swedish Mjølner
@raimat66
@raimat66 10 ай бұрын
Why do you spell "Luke" for Swedish, Norwegian and Danish? It's spelled "Loke" (if not Loki). And the girls are saying it that way in their language. The subtitles are not good, more like guessing.
@Onnarashi
@Onnarashi 10 ай бұрын
Exactly. I'm Norwegian and we say it as "Loke". We also say "Heimdal", "Mjølner", "Odin", "Tor" and "Tyr".
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 10 ай бұрын
​@@Onnarashisame as in danish
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 10 ай бұрын
In Swedish and Norwegian, o becomes u but is still spelled o. I don't know why they did it for Danish though.
@Onnarashi
@Onnarashi 10 ай бұрын
@@weepingscorpion8739 No, "O" is just"O" in Norwegiam, not "U". Source: I'm Norwegian.
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 10 ай бұрын
@@OnnarashiWell, I am Faroese, and most of your o's sound nothing like our o's but more like our u's. Maybe you still keep the o in Loke but the o's "Med Tore på sporet" are definitely pronounced as [u], not [o].
@ijansk
@ijansk 10 ай бұрын
Those Icelandic letters she was referring to are found in the English phonetics system. They are taught to ESL learners in order to be able to pronounce any word in English. I can read whole texts written with phonemes.
@thevannmann
@thevannmann 10 ай бұрын
They're not officially used in English anymore but they are used by some dictionaries/institutions to help teach the pronunciations. They're also officially used as part of the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) and were used in Old English. Eth and thorn (ð þ); Old English also used Wynn and Yogh (ƿ ȝ), as well as Ash (æ).
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 ай бұрын
þ and ð were indeed the letters for the voiceless dental fricative and the voiced dental fricative. In english they were used almost interchangeably for both, with þ being more common at the beginning of words and ð more common in the middle and end.
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
Yes, they are the eth and the thorn sounds, which are approximants of D and T - these letters are the original letters that were used to spell the sounds, and both Norse and Icelandic have them both, and Old English also has them both, and Faroese and Elfdalian have the ð letter, and I think Gothic has them too, and, the UR ending from Icelandic is spelled R in Norse, for example, vindr vs vindur, which mean wind, and, the word dal means dale / valley!
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
By the way, I am upper intermediate level in both Old Norse and Icelandic, and I have the right Norse pronunciation, which is the most logical, and by the way, I will use DH for the TH sound in the English words this and that, which is the approximant of D and not the approximant of T like the TH in the English word think, and I will use AO for the ‘closed’ A sound that is like an A and O sound said 2gether in one sound (similar to the A sound in Hungarian) that melts into a soft O sound! For example... - hvat sounds like hvat or vat or kvat - mæra sounds like mera - ávast sounds like avast - nágrindr sounds like naogrind:r - líkligr sounds like liklig:r or likliguhr - frænda sounds like freinda or freoynda or frenda - þat sounds like that - ræðir sounds like reidhir - hárr sounds like haruhr or har:r (could have also been har / harr) - gæfr sounds like gev:r or gevuhr - hverfa sounds like hverva or verva or kverva (any of them or all 3 could’ve been used) Also... - hæll sounds like heyl - saltr sounds like solt:r - mæla sounds like mala - drápa sounds like drapa or dropa - kæra sounds like kaera or kaira - ferr sounds like fer:r - jafna sounds like yavna - hœgri sounds like heoyri - girðing sounds like girdhing - hádegi sounds like haodegi - ørendislaust sounds like eorendislaust The word... - verr sounds like ver - ekki sounds like eki or ehki - þverra sounds like thverra - gegna sounds like gekna - vefja sounds like vevya - yfir sounds like ɪvɪr as in Icelandic - ætla sounds like etla - ofn sounds like ovn - náliga sounds like naoliga - sauma could have been pronounced either saima or seoyma like in Icelandic or both or even sauma as it is written - ofleti sounds like ofleti The emphasis of stress in Norse languages such as Norse and Icelandic etc is always at the beginning of the word - for compound words made of multiple smaller words, one should add a bit of stress at the beginning of each word that the compound word is made of and the most stress always at the beginning of the compound word... I don’t think there was any fixed way of pronouncing the diphthongs, and it’s most likely that the pronunciation of diphthongs such as AU would differ depending on the word, including pronunciations such as ai / au / ao / eoy / oy / ey etc, and it may have also differed depending on the region and accent, and the Æ in Norse can have many pronunciations, depending on the word, so it can sound like e / ei / a / eoy / oey / uey / ai / ea / ae etc, depending on what sound sounds best and the most natural and easiest to say in each word, so one should use one’s intuition a lot in Norse... The Rs are always different depending on the region and depending of the speaker in every language, but in Germanic languages, a soft normal R is usually used by most speakers and by younger speakers, and I highly recommend using a soft normal R in Norse and in all other languages that aren’t English as soft Rs have the best and most refined sound, soft Rs that are pronounced as fast as possible being the types of Rs that truly suit such refined languages as Norse and the other Germanic languages, whereas hard or prolonged or thrilled Rs sound very harsh and unrefined... By the way, it’s also important to know that in Norse and Icelandic the G is usually pronounced like a K sound, especially at the end of the word, and in many words the G is pronounced K even in the middle of the word, and there are also some words where the G is pronounced as a K even when it is at the beginning of the word, so it is normal to hear a lot of K sounds when there is a G in spelling - for example, lots of speakers of Icelandic will pronounce even the G in góðan (góðan daginn) as a soft K sound, without even realizing, and this pronunciation rule comes from Norse!
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
Here are some of the most important sounds + pronunciation rules in Icelandic, as Icelandic has one of the easiest / prettiest / coolest pronunciations ever, having a category 1 pronunciation with super cool modern sounds! - the eth letter ð is an approximant of the letter D (a less obvious D similar to the D in the Spanish word nada and like the TH in the English words this and that) and the thorn letter þ is an approximant of T (a less obvious T that’s sort of lisped, and it is the same sound as the TH in the English words think and thing, though it sounds closer to a normal T sound in Icelandic) More pronunciation rules and sounds in Icelandic... - the HV is pronounced KV - the NN is pronounced as a TN if it comes after Æ and after EI / EY and after a long vowel such as Á / É / Í / Ó / Ú (but it is a normal N sound if it comes after the short vowels A / E / I / O / U and in inn word combinations, and I recommend adding a very soft breathy H sound to the ‘inn’ word ending in masculine words to make it a bit different from the word ending ‘in’ which is the feminine word ending, like I do, as I pronounce the inn more like ihn in masculine nouns and masculine adjectives that have the inn word ending, which represents the definite article in nouns, tho there are also three articles that aren’t added to the noun, namely hinn and hin and hið, so, one can say hinn stormur or stormurinn and hinn storm or storminn as both mean the storm in nominative and accusative) - the LL is usually pronounced TL in most words and if the LL is at the end of the word it sounds more like a weak T sound - the RN is pronounced with an extra soft ‘nasal’ T sound between the R and the N (so a word like þarna sounds like thartna) - the FL / FN letter combinations are pronounced PL / PN (so F becomes a P sound if it’s before an L or an N) - the G is ultra soft in short words like ég and mig etc, so it is pronounced more like an H sound (so ég sounds like yeh) and the G in the middle of the words is kinda soft (in words like segja / saga / segir etc it is a soft G that is still a G sound and not an H) and the Gs and GGs can also sound like Ks in many of the words if they are at the end of the word or even in the middle of the word and sometimes even at the beginning of the word (same as in Old Norse) tho Gs are usually pronounced like a normal G sound if they are at the beginning of the word (except for a few words) - the KK / TT etc is pronounced more like HK / HT as a soft breathy H sound is included before the K / T sound when there is a double consonant and even when there are two different consonants (for example, ekki sounds like ehki and óútreiknanlegt sounds like outreihnanleht etc) - the letter F is usually pronounced like a V if it’s in the middle of the word or at the end of the word (so leyfa sounds like leyva) and it is pronounced like a normal F sound if it’s at the beginning of the word or very close to the beginning of the word (for example, if a words starts with af, the af is pronounced af, not av) The diphthongs and umlauts and vowels in Icelandic... - AU is pronounced EOI (normal e sound + normal o sound + normal i sound said 2gether fast in one sound) - EI / EY are pronounced EI / EY (same as they are spellt) - the Æ / æ is usually pronounced ai in most Icelandic words (but hvenær seems to be pronounced kvenar and not really kvenair, so it depends on the word) - Ö is an EO sound (normal e sound + normal o sound said 2gether in one sound, like the œ in the French word cœur) - Ó is usually pronounced OU - O is usually pronounced UO and sometimes as an O sound (depending on the word) - Ú is a normal u sound - U is a more rounded YU sound (like the u in the French word mur and it is also the same sound as the Ü in Hungarian and German and the same sound as the UU in Dutch in words like muur and duur) tho in some words it is pronounced like a normal U sound (especially at the beginning of the word in words like ungur, and when there are multiple Us in the same word it’s usually the last U that is pronounced like YU and most other Us are pronounced like a normal U sound in that kind of words) - Á is an AU sound in almost every word (there are only a few exceptions) - A is a normal a sound and the A before NG / NK is pronounced like an AU sound just like the Á (so að ganga sounds like ath gaunga and it means to walk) - É is an YE sound (normal i sound + normal e sound) - E is a normal e sound (full e sound) - Í / Ý is a normal i sound - I / Y is a half i sound (this sound is very similar to how the i is pronounced in most English words like fit and chips and this, so it’s sort of like a weak i that goes more towards an e sound, but it isn’t a full e sound, and it isn’t a full i sound either, so it’s right between an i sound and an e sound)
@henri191
@henri191 10 ай бұрын
Marvel may have made these characters more popular , but that doesn't means that people may know the real history of them , i like Nordic Mithology of MCU , but also really interested in the mithology itself
@thoso1973
@thoso1973 10 ай бұрын
The only thing Marvels popularization of Norse mythology gets right, are probably the names and the family relation between Odin, Frigg and Thor. Loki is not Thor's brother in Norse mythology, which will probably blow the minds of fans of the Marvel films. 😄
@andrebrodbeck3883
@andrebrodbeck3883 10 ай бұрын
To be honest, i do even HATE marvel, for degrading these GODS into superheroes.
@Onnarashi
@Onnarashi 10 ай бұрын
Marvel is nothing but a poor imitation of Norse mytholgy.
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon 10 ай бұрын
Hollywood
@SwedishNationalist
@SwedishNationalist 6 ай бұрын
I hate what marvel did with my ancestors beliefs honestly. It seems very spiteful as well as they cast an african american to play Heimdall who is known to be the fairest of the Aesir having the whitest skin. Why not fearure african gods if they want diversity! That would showcase the diversity of culture in the world far better
@vandahlist5880
@vandahlist5880 6 ай бұрын
Faroe Islands should be representing in the panel too. It's the missing link between Icelandic and the other.
@pahtar7189
@pahtar7189 6 ай бұрын
I think most Americans don't realize that four of our days of the week are named after the Germanic version of Norse gods: Tyr - Tiw - Tuesday Odin - Woden - Wednesday Thor - Thorr - Thursday Freyr - Frea - Friday The others are: Saturn - Saturday (Roman god) Sun - Sunday Moon - Monday
@verttilehtonen9694
@verttilehtonen9694 10 ай бұрын
As finnish person, I feel really lost here
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
I understood you bro, you're missing samis,kommis,estonians, livonians,karelians,vepsians and Hungarians, chuvashes the big family finnic italic hunnic true in the world 🌎🌍🫂🍻🍻💎 Teach to the Koreans the real culture idioms and mithology of finnic italic hunnic cultures and idioms to Koreans bros and sis really they don't know nothing. 💙💙💙
@Nakkisesonki
@Nakkisesonki 8 ай бұрын
​@@TuaTeMauAkauAteaitalians are Indo-European bro
@gruu
@gruu 10 ай бұрын
LOVE the subject and the girls are great but the editors haven't done their job on this one. Too many misspellings in the subtitles to mention
@Starkardur
@Starkardur 10 ай бұрын
02:59 no Frigg is not pronounced as Frig in Icelandic - it's pronounced as Frigg with an emphasis on two G's. I have never heard anyone say Frigg as Frig
@arnigeir2308
@arnigeir2308 10 ай бұрын
True. She was way off. Quite embarrasing actually.
@Zetor1234
@Zetor1234 3 ай бұрын
Og hún segist hafa lært um Norræna goðafræði í þrjú ár
@jamesalexander6139
@jamesalexander6139 2 ай бұрын
@@Zetor1234she also said once a week in middle school
@elmsigreen
@elmsigreen 22 күн бұрын
She was also wrong about Ásagarður. There is no A between Ás and Garður.
@Braanish
@Braanish 6 ай бұрын
Bedankt
@oldmangaming9442
@oldmangaming9442 12 күн бұрын
So as a Danish kid (45 today), I was reading a lot of stories about Norse mythology. I have a book called "Nordiske Gude, og Helte sagn" and I was obsessed about it. A proper English translation of that title would probably be "Fables of Norse Gods and Heroes". Now... When I grew older and first encountered the word "Norse", my initial response was something similar to "....the heck is that?". Let me explain. In Denmark, we don't have a word like "Norse" to pinpoint what mythology we're talking about. What the English language call "Norse Mythology", we call "Nordisk Mytologi". "Nordisk" means that it comes from the north. "Nord" translates directly to "North". If you write "Nordiske", the first word of the book title, into Google translate, it spells "Nordic". I'm very ADHD, and autistic as well. My brain works in mysterious ways.... The word "Norse" just stuck with me.. ..and not in a good way. I felt my obsession as a kid was butchered. "Norse.... Gimme a break! It's called Nordic!" I concocted a theory. I think that the first English speaking person who had to explain this to another English speaking person, must have had a lisp or something... All excited, trying to explain this mythology from the north..... "Ahh, yes... Norse...." Writing it down... Cementing it. .. It's just a fun theory, but I still don't like that word...
@viktorhelgi
@viktorhelgi 10 ай бұрын
Nonono. Sesselja does not represent me as an Icelander. I have no idea where she gets some of this from. For example, she removed a g from Frigg and added an a to "Ásgarður" so she said "Ásagarður". She must be from Hafnarfjörður. The other stuff was how I would say it though. (Also, she made an error. I'll use the same example as in the video. Originally, "Heimdallur" was spelled "Heimdallr", so there was no "u" before the "r". But that was in Snorra-Edda, which was written in the 13th century)
@papasmjordeig
@papasmjordeig 10 ай бұрын
Sama hér 😅
@arnigeir2308
@arnigeir2308 10 ай бұрын
So true. It was quite embarrasing how she butchered the name Frigg. It is not written with one g and not pronounced the way she pronounced it. Also it is Ásgarður and not Ásagarður. I can't imagine where she could have heard this from.
@PSimonsen
@PSimonsen 10 ай бұрын
​@@arnigeir2308 She's probably got it from Ásatrúarfélagið, Which is a newer religion (based on an old one),
@Eyrenni
@Eyrenni 9 ай бұрын
I was interested in what sounded like a light t sound in the dallur/dallr part. At least compared to everyone else. I'm Swedish so that one surprised me. Do you pronounce it with that soft t in there as well?
@arnigeir2308
@arnigeir2308 9 ай бұрын
@@Eyrenni Yes. Double L is pronounced sort of like tl. There are few exceptions, particularly regarding peoples nicknames
@sashakasprzyk5683
@sashakasprzyk5683 10 ай бұрын
Thursday is Thors day.
@JJJ111JJJ
@JJJ111JJJ 6 ай бұрын
Tuesday = Tyr's day Wednesday = Wotan's/Odin's day Thursday = Thor's day Friday = Frigg's day
@prageruwu69
@prageruwu69 10 ай бұрын
jag trodde vi sa oden??? det lärde vi oss iallafall i min skola bruh the way they spelled the swedish words, especially asgård, is buckwild 💀 oh my god, when the american said "you guys don't like the letter a :)" i rolled my eyes to the bsck of my head. idk whether she's talking about the actual a or the å but if it's the latter: YOU are the ones who for some reason replaced the å with a letter that sounds nothing like it because you can't comprehend languages having different letters
@samanthaholmgren7699
@samanthaholmgren7699 10 ай бұрын
Både Oden och Odin används. I Göteborg finns t ex Odinsgatan och i Uppsala Odensgatan.
@andreasthemetalpunk9552
@andreasthemetalpunk9552 10 ай бұрын
​@@samanthaholmgren7699sSå är det. Odin med I är sedan gammalt.
@Vinterfrid
@Vinterfrid 10 ай бұрын
@@andreasthemetalpunk9552 Sedan gammalt är det 'Oden'.
@andreasthemetalpunk9552
@andreasthemetalpunk9552 10 ай бұрын
@@Vinterfrid Fast med ett 'i'.
@andreasthemetalpunk9552
@andreasthemetalpunk9552 10 ай бұрын
Modern svenska.
@Serenity_Dee
@Serenity_Dee 10 ай бұрын
In English, Ð ð and Þ þ are letters we used before the advent of movable type; they were called "eth" and "thorn," respectively, and had the same phonological value as they do in modern Icelandic and Faroese. Because printing sets made on the continent didn't include them, they would use letters that looked similar from those sets, for example replacing ð with Y in "ðe" (which is where Ye Olde Shoppe type things came from) or transcribing them as "th." That's in addition to two other casualties of movable type, yogh (Ȝ ȝ) and wynn (Ƿ ƿ).
@jimgorycki4013
@jimgorycki4013 10 ай бұрын
Awesome. I was listening to a video on how the languages evolved from German (Anglo and Saxon region) to Old English to English, and if English and German speakers can understand Old English.
@thevannmann
@thevannmann 10 ай бұрын
Ash, Eth, Thorn, Wynn and Yogh. RIP
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 10 ай бұрын
And the handwritten form of þ, especially in blackletter writing, looked very similar to y when printing came around.
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
Yes, they are the eth and the thorn sounds, which are approximants of D and T - these letters are the original letters that were used to spell the sounds, and both Norse and Icelandic have them both, and Old English also has them both, and Faroese and Elfdalian have the ð letter, and I think Gothic has them too, and, the UR ending from Icelandic is spelled R in Norse, for example, vindr vs vindur, which mean wind, and, the word dal means dale / valley!
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 10 ай бұрын
By the way, I am upper intermediate level in both Old Norse and Icelandic, and I have the right Norse pronunciation, which is the most logical, and by the way, I will use DH for the TH sound in the English words this and that, which is the approximant of D and not the approximant of T like the TH in the English word think, and I will use AO for the ‘closed’ A sound that is like an A and O sound said 2gether in one sound (similar to the A sound in Hungarian) that melts into a soft O sound! For example... - hvat sounds like hvat or vat or kvat - mæra sounds like mera - ávast sounds like avast - nágrindr sounds like naogrind:r - líkligr sounds like liklig:r or likliguhr - frænda sounds like freinda or freoynda or frenda - þat sounds like that - ræðir sounds like reidhir - hárr sounds like haruhr or har:r (could have also been har / harr) - gæfr sounds like gev:r or gevuhr - hverfa sounds like hverva or verva or kverva (any of them or all 3 could’ve been used) Also... - hæll sounds like heyl - saltr sounds like solt:r - mæla sounds like mala - drápa sounds like drapa or dropa - kæra sounds like kaera or kaira - ferr sounds like fer:r - jafna sounds like yavna - hœgri sounds like heoyri - girðing sounds like girdhing - hádegi sounds like haodegi - ørendislaust sounds like eorendislaust The word... - verr sounds like ver - ekki sounds like eki or ehki - þverra sounds like thverra - gegna sounds like gekna - vefja sounds like vevya - yfir sounds like ɪvɪr as in Icelandic - ætla sounds like etla - ofn sounds like ovn - náliga sounds like naoliga - sauma could have been pronounced either saima or seoyma like in Icelandic or both or even sauma as it is written - ofleti sounds like ofleti The emphasis of stress in Norse languages such as Norse and Icelandic etc is always at the beginning of the word - for compound words made of multiple smaller words, one should add a bit of stress at the beginning of each word that the compound word is made of and the most stress always at the beginning of the compound word... I don’t think there was any fixed way of pronouncing the diphthongs, and it’s most likely that the pronunciation of diphthongs such as AU would differ depending on the word, including pronunciations such as ai / au / ao / eoy / oy / ey etc, and it may have also differed depending on the region and accent, and the Æ in Norse can have many pronunciations, depending on the word, so it can sound like e / ei / a / eoy / oey / uey / ai / ea / ae etc, depending on what sound sounds best and the most natural and easiest to say in each word, so one should use one’s intuition a lot in Norse... The Rs are always different depending on the region and depending of the speaker in every language, but in Germanic languages, a soft normal R is usually used by most speakers and by younger speakers, and I highly recommend using a soft normal R in Norse and in all other languages that aren’t English as soft Rs have the best and most refined sound, soft Rs that are pronounced as fast as possible being the types of Rs that truly suit such refined languages as Norse and the other Germanic languages, whereas hard or prolonged or thrilled Rs sound very harsh and unrefined... By the way, it’s also important to know that in Norse and Icelandic the G is usually pronounced like a K sound, especially at the end of the word, and in many words the G is pronounced K even in the middle of the word, and there are also some words where the G is pronounced as a K even when it is at the beginning of the word, so it is normal to hear a lot of K sounds when there is a G in spelling - for example, lots of speakers of Icelandic will pronounce even the G in góðan (góðan daginn) as a soft K sound, without even realizing, and this pronunciation rule comes from Norse!
@HappyGnoux
@HappyGnoux 10 ай бұрын
That was very interesting. thank you =)
@stephenmaclean3422
@stephenmaclean3422 5 ай бұрын
It would have been nice to hear if the American (or the others) realizes that four days of the week are named after four of the gods mentioned - Tyr’s day - Tuesday, Odin’s day - Wednesday, Thor’s day - Thursday, and Frigg Day - Friday.
@2WarriorJay8
@2WarriorJay8 10 ай бұрын
Germanic names like Dustin, Thorsten/Thurston, and Thorin are all connected by Þor- and all mean things like "thor's stone, lightning bolt, thunder, brave, brave warrior, valiant fighter".
@cognomen9142
@cognomen9142 8 ай бұрын
Dustin is filtered through the French Norman language, though.
@renshiwu305
@renshiwu305 Ай бұрын
Tolkien got the name of his dwarf character Thorin Oakenshield from Þorínn in the edda poem _Völuspá._
@Akitlosz
@Akitlosz 10 ай бұрын
The ladies of the valkyrie army: Brynhildr Dvisna Eir Geirahöd Geiravör Geirdriful Geirskögul Glinsvard Goldr Göll Göndul Grimhildr Gudr Gunnr Heltring Herfjötur Herja Hervif Hervör Hilda Hildr Hjalmprimul Hjörprimul Hladgoudr Hljod Hlökk Hrist Hruma Hrund Kára Lemgalhildr Mist Nálgunk Novila Osdi Ölrún Pögn Prima Prúdr Randgrídr Reginleif Sigrún Sigurdrífa Skagarand Skalmöld Skeggjöld Skögul Svaneydan Svanngidr Svanvít Sváva Sveid Sveidana Svipul Tanngridr Vald Valrun Vus
@gautamprasadkrao
@gautamprasadkrao 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I've heard some of these names still being used in Germany (I live in Western Germany). I've heard of/seen ladies having names such as Gudr (Gudrun in German), Gunnr, Hilda, Sigrun, etc. Also, some other names like Björn, Erik (very common), Gunnar, Freja/Freya, Helge, and Thorsten (literally used to work with a guy with this name). Even though Germany was under the strong grip of Christianity, they still managed to maintain some old culture and rich traditions until this day. Some traditional German/Germanic names are still being given to newborn babies in modern-day Germany.
@jennyh4025
@jennyh4025 10 ай бұрын
@@gautamprasadkraoI’m also from western Germany and I know a Brunhilde and a Hilda! And Brunhilde can be quite impressive, she looks so kind, but when someone angers her… better hope you’re in a safe distance.
@gautamprasadkrao
@gautamprasadkrao 10 ай бұрын
@@jennyh4025 haha... duly noted!
@davidoregan_
@davidoregan_ 10 ай бұрын
Traditionally, the Anglo-Saxon (ancestors of the English) tribes that worshipped a variation of the Norse pantheon. Unfortunately many records from that time period have been lost. From what we know the equivalent names form this video were Woden (1:39), Frig (2:47), Thunor (4:01), there was no known Loki equivalent (5:25), the name of Thunor's hammer has been lost to time but we do know he had one (6:31), there was no known Heimdall equivalent (8:35), Tiw (11:09), it has been reconstructed as Esageard but it is not known if that were the equivalent (12:30). The original religion of the Anglo-Saxons is a really interesting topic, that unfortunately, has mostly been lost to the sands of time.
@tobiast5908
@tobiast5908 10 ай бұрын
Aa far as i know the german equivalents: Wodan (Odin) Donar (Thor) Freia (Frigg) I think the others were the same as in this video
@tobiast5908
@tobiast5908 10 ай бұрын
To add to this Donar of course survives in the word Donner (thunder) Donnerstags (thursday) is named after him. Freitag is freias day (Friday). Wodan should be wodansday probably wednesday in english but this got lost in german.
@davidoregan_
@davidoregan_ 10 ай бұрын
@@tobiast5908 That's cool that German also holds on to this heritage in some form! In English we have some derived words as well: Mona --> Monday, Tiw --> Tuesday, Wodan --> Wednesday, Thunor --> Thursday, Frig --> Friday, and Ēostre --> Easter.
@tobiast5908
@tobiast5908 10 ай бұрын
@@davidoregan_ Great to know, thx Looked up the roots for tuesday in german and it also refers to the Germanic god of war but it appears the name that we use is based on a latin translation of his name while the original saxon equivalent ziu (in english the first part of tuesday ) was lost. Eastern = Ostern . Moon = Mond. Mondtag = day of the moon. Monday Sonntag = day of the sun- sunday Interestingly and not related to the old mythology but to England an old name for saturday still in use in northern germany is Sonnabend which translates to "sunday eve". Original only the evening before sunday was meant by this, but later the term got extended to apply for the full day, same as Christmas eve. And apparently the reason why this name was coined were missionaries from the british isles, a direct translation from old english. Well back in those days imo there wasnt much linguistic difference between southern britain and northern germany anyway. The more romanized south of germany uses a different name for this day (which btw threatens to become dominant nationwide these days, though originally it wasnt used in the north). Sorry this got so long Keep it up
@tobiast5908
@tobiast5908 10 ай бұрын
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@maliabeattie-butler500
@maliabeattie-butler500 6 ай бұрын
This was so interesting! Loved it.
@yngvildrthevoracious
@yngvildrthevoracious 6 ай бұрын
So, I don't want to sound pedantic but as someone who studied Finnish for four years as a foreigner with native speakers who are top researchers in Finnish and Fenno Ugric linguistics, the O in Odin sounds long, not because of pronunciation, but because the tonic accent in Finnish is at the beginning of all words and it's extra accented in the beginning of sentences. The "Power" the American girl was talking about. To help the kind lady realise this, I encourage her to recite the first line of Kalevala several times ("Mieleni minun tekevi") and she'll say "ooooh" and it'll be a lightbulb moment. It's natural for her to not know, myself never realised why it was so hard to learn a certain rule in my language xD
@jhonyermo
@jhonyermo 10 ай бұрын
Those Icelandic letters are also Old English, LOTS if Nordic influence in Old English--; Beowulf etc."The story is set in pagan Scandinavia in the 6th century. Beowulf, a hero of the Geats, comes to the aid of Hrothgar, the king of the Danes, whose mead hall Heorot has been under attack by the monster Grendel for twelve years." -- Even though OE come from Angles and Saxons and Jutes. "The Jutes (/dʒuːts/ JOOTS) were one of the Germanic tribes who settled in Great Britain after the departure of the Romans. According to Bede, they were one of the three most powerful Germanic nations, along with the Angles and the Saxons: The Jutland Peninsula, possible homeland of the Jutes"
@bjokvi91
@bjokvi91 10 ай бұрын
I usually don'tlike these videos when someone from Norway is attending, because while most countries have multiple unique dialects, many of the Dialects in Norway are so distinct from each other that someone from a different country whould probably believe that they are from completely different countries, and there are even some norwegians who struggle to understand each other. The phrase "in norwegian we say such and such" makes very little sense considering the fact that that depending on the location in Norway, we say entirely things. And from a linguistic point of view, the norwegian dialects that are usually represented in these videos are often among the ones that could be considered watered down, "less norwegian" forms of the language.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 10 ай бұрын
We in Germany/ Austria/ Switzerland have the same problem, when speaking in dialects. This is the reason why in 1873 Standard German was invented and introduced.
@bjokvi91
@bjokvi91 10 ай бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 I can imagine, especially with all those smaller kingdoms and duchies that used to be there during the Holy Roman Empire. The problem in Norway is that while we have two separate standardised written forms of the language to chose from, there is no standardised form of the spoken language.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 10 ай бұрын
@@bjokvi91 : The HRE was at first divided only into tribal duchies ( Swabia, Frankonia, Bavaria, Saxony, Thuringia and some margraviates ( see austrian state Steiermark). So in the same tribal Region you are usually, but not allways able to understand your ,tribesmen' and their subdialects. But when you leave your ,tribal' Region and come to the Territory of annother tribe, who has annother dialect and subdialects, the problems start. IT IS not only a different pronoucion, sometimes letters or whole syllables are Cut or added, unknown different words for the same thing are used, Same Word means different things, evern sometimes slightly different grammar. In large Towns most people prefer Standard German, especially young people ( they are often No more able to speak dialect. Most people today speak a mix of Standard German and dialect, or a rather downwatered dialect. But you still can find elderly rural people, who still speak propper dialect.
@bjokvi91
@bjokvi91 10 ай бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 The language challenges seem somewhat similar to what they are here, with how letters or whole syllabels are cut or added, how the same words can mean different things, how the grammar can be slightly different, and how different places have unique words for things. Personally i've lived in the same town my whole life and speak a watered down version of the local dialect, which many people around the country struggle to understand, but the real version of the local dialect is mostly spoken by older and more rural people, and can be hard to understand even for other locals, with several words that to my knowledge only exists here in this town and the surrounding areas, and that cannot be found in any dictionary that i know of.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 10 ай бұрын
@@bjokvi91 : To some degree I can understand you. I am from South West Germany, my dialect is called Schwäbisch ( swabian), I also never moved. For the reason that i am a conservative rural man ( Britta is my girlfriend) and my parents stopped farming and cattle in 2001, I still prefer dialect over Standard German ( as a southener Standard German IS to prussian for me). But: In contrast to many people in my age I can still speak my dialect ( local variant) rather properly, I am everywhere revognized as Swabian, but my luckyly still allive parents are Last Generation, which learned Swabian dialect correctly
@mammatin7209
@mammatin7209 10 ай бұрын
Could you please bring a faroese person if you ever make another one of these??🙏🙏
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 10 ай бұрын
Ikr? I mean, I'd volunteer but... :)
@hmvollbanane1259
@hmvollbanane1259 10 ай бұрын
How big are the chances that they can find a Faroese person in Korea that is also willing to participate in this? There are only 54k of you within your own islands
@mammatin7209
@mammatin7209 9 ай бұрын
yeah thats a fair assumption to make, but i know of at least a few faroese people living in SK@@hmvollbanane1259 🤔
@JakupFr
@JakupFr 2 ай бұрын
@@hmvollbanane1259 just go to the shipyard in S. Korea, you will probably find one there overlooking the building of Mærsk containerships :)
@ingolfrvargr
@ingolfrvargr 10 ай бұрын
Icelander here, I have never heard Frigg pronounced that way with the soft (and single) 'g'. It's always way closer to the way the Finnish girl pronounces it. Same with Asgard, I've only ever heard Ásgarður, never heard Ásagarður (with that additional 'a'). I wonder where her pronounciations come from, if it's her own personal pronounciation or if she's heard it somewhere else.
@ingaeinars693
@ingaeinars693 Ай бұрын
Totally agree with you. Never heard ÁsAgarður... always Ásgarður... and Frigg is pronounced with 2 g's. (harder).
@theinteltube
@theinteltube 5 ай бұрын
Why is Norway the only country represented by a forigen immigrant that dont know the mythologi or the language? You can literally both see and hear it…
@jarlhenrik
@jarlhenrik 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was wondering about that. Pretty sure she's born and raised here, but Farida is definitely not a norwegian name, nor would I guess she has deep roots in the country. I can't speak for the others, but they all both sound and look like the typical nordic girl.
@andriandrason1318
@andriandrason1318 2 ай бұрын
​@@jarlhenrikBut she seems to have a latin accent 😅
@gnome-ski
@gnome-ski 2 ай бұрын
@@jarlhenrik dont even have to see the name, her nose is a dead give away. probably near eastern or north african background.
@heh9392
@heh9392 10 ай бұрын
The Finnish doesn't belong with Norse mythology though, we Finns have our own pagan stories and characters separate from Scandinavia
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
Yes bro Finns have uralic finnic Asian mithology this true should be respect by all nations Finns aren't germanic viking nordic etc they all are Asians Uralics finnics and altaics 💙💙
@sashakasprzyk5683
@sashakasprzyk5683 10 ай бұрын
Wednesday is Odin's day.
@fastertove
@fastertove 10 ай бұрын
Yes, why the day is called "onsdag" in Denmark.
@MrBulky992
@MrBulky992 6 ай бұрын
Woden's Day, in fact
@michael3088
@michael3088 6 ай бұрын
in English it's Woden
@yarrr275
@yarrr275 10 ай бұрын
It would've made so much more sense to have a Faroese person there instead of a Finnish person
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
Yes Faroese, alanders northern frisian are all Nordics germanics. Finns and Estonians and hungarians always even be asians not matter what they trying to do, they ever will be Asians Uralics finnics and altaics til eternity ✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️🌎👍💙🫂🥂. I say without hate .
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 9 ай бұрын
True bro faroese and northern frisian, alandic etc
@TheRealBaldwinIV
@TheRealBaldwinIV 3 ай бұрын
@@TuaTeMauAkauAtea Or German/Englishman
@psilorder86
@psilorder86 8 ай бұрын
Mjolnir/Mjölner is always so funny to me because if it wasn't for the "don't translate names" rule, it would be "grinder" (as in grinding to flour) or, to translate meaning, "crusher". Here comes Thor with his hammer Crusher! Only the worthy can lift Grinder!
@magnusnilsson9792
@magnusnilsson9792 Ай бұрын
Could be translated to Miller too: Here comes Thor with his hammer Miller.
@mathiassvendsen9788
@mathiassvendsen9788 7 ай бұрын
As a Dane it's so funny to have this line-up of an American, to create a "foreign" baseline followed by all the other Nordic Countries that all, at least to me, can be described as melodic in one way or another and then have the line-up end with just the harsh, punchy vocal of the Danish language. The Tyr one really highlighted that for me.
@dmytrodanilov9334
@dmytrodanilov9334 10 ай бұрын
I enjoy how Icelandic "R" sounds. So softly with smooth vibration.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
💙🫂♾️🍻
@petrpinc7695
@petrpinc7695 8 ай бұрын
Speaking of Icelandic "R". When she says Icelandic pronounciatiation of Thor, Baldur, Asgard and Garther, I can swear she says the last letter as Czech "Ř". This isn't the first time I have heard Icelander say it like that.
@chalphon4907
@chalphon4907 10 ай бұрын
I think they should have tried on some harder names. Like Yggdrasil, Särimner, Ratatosk or Utgårdaloke...
@reineh3477
@reineh3477 10 ай бұрын
Rikki-Tikki-Tavi is from the Jungle Book.
@chalphon4907
@chalphon4907 10 ай бұрын
Lol yeah, I meant Ratatosk :D @@reineh3477
@Kramplarv
@Kramplarv 10 ай бұрын
@@reineh3477 indeed it is. OP meant Ratatosk I suspect :p
@KimSve
@KimSve 10 ай бұрын
I think that you meant Ratatosk (Ratatǫskr), the squirrel. Not Rikki-Tikki-Tavi. 😉😃
@reineh3477
@reineh3477 10 ай бұрын
@@Kramplarv I think so too.
@jimgorycki4013
@jimgorycki4013 10 ай бұрын
This is an awesome video! I am comparing Norse gods with the Anglo-Saxons, where we get our Tuesday thru Friday. Tuesday is from Tiw, the god of war (similar to Roman Mars, Tyr in Norse); Wednesday is from Woden (Similr to Mercury in Roman, and Odin in Norse), Thursday is from Thunor (Similar to Jupiter in Roman, Thor in Norse); and Friday is from Frig (Venus in Roman, Frigga in Norse). I enjoy how they explain the Norse gods and the worlds! Now for the romance languages such as Spanish, Tuesday would be Martes (Mars), Wednesday would be Miercoles (Mercury), Thursday would be Jueves (Iovis or Jupiter), Friday would be Viernes (Venus). We need the the Romance language speakers and the Germanic language speakers together and go over the days of the week!
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
The gods of these cultures were all Indo-European gods, when they spoke Kurganian the cults were the same when they started to speak different languages like Proto-Hellenic, Proto-Armenian, Proto-Sanskrit, Protoraci, Protodacian, Proto-Celtic, Proto-Italic, Proto-Germanic, Polytheism changed the rites but the gods were the same with different names and cults and different languages and the Indo-European mythologies are very similar because they are Kurgan mythologies. And the English language heavily inherited almost all Indo-European traditions because in its formation it mixed deeply with almost all Indo-European languages and cultures in the European continent. Just these facts, or rather the entire summary of these facts.
@hmvollbanane1259
@hmvollbanane1259 10 ай бұрын
German: Monday - Montag - day of Mani Tuesday - Dienstag - day of Tiu/Tiz (Tyr) Wednesday - Mittwoch - middle of the week (used to be Wodensdag but the church managed to ban the word) Thursday - Donnerstag - day of Donar (Thor) Friday - Freitag - day of Frī(j)a (Frigg) Saturday - Samstag - day of sabbat (Judeo-Christian) Sunday - Sonntag - day of Sunna (Sól)
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 9 ай бұрын
Saturday its a pagan day means day of Saturn it's never related to sabbat is the day of Chronos.
@SceGno1
@SceGno1 10 ай бұрын
This was so interesting. Listening to the different pronunciation of vowel sounds from the various northern lands shows the changes over time and location really well. The biggest surprise for me was 'Asgard'! That was not what I was expecting! :) It seems to my ear that Icelandic pronounces words somewhat differently to the others, and as she said, Norse mythology was her passion, so she'd researched it more and had a better understanding of where the words originated.
@SwedishNationalist
@SwedishNationalist 6 ай бұрын
Its not a pronaunciation of the English word Asgard it is the Icelandic word for Asgard or Asgård in swedish
@m4rt_
@m4rt_ 8 күн бұрын
I really like the Icelandic Þ. It is called Þorn. (pronounced "thorn")
@omgwerockhard
@omgwerockhard 10 ай бұрын
As a Norwegian Icelandic is the most accurate to Norse Mythology, since they almost speak the same now as that time
@aIesssandra
@aIesssandra 10 ай бұрын
Icelandic is very much close to old norse, but stating that people nowadays speak norwegian like they did as that time is a huuuuuge stretch.
@omgwerockhard
@omgwerockhard 10 ай бұрын
@@aIesssandra Never said that, said Icelandic is close to old norse
@aIesssandra
@aIesssandra 10 ай бұрын
@@omgwerockhard My bad, I've dyslexia and read it wrong 😅
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
But icelandic are changing hardly the phonetics today by english, it's not the same idiom of 500 years before, scots dorics and english are changing Icelandic roots, and basque too
@dmytrodanilov9334
@dmytrodanilov9334 10 ай бұрын
Finnish Gods aren't similart to Scandinavian at all. They have quite different roots.
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Nordics gods are the same Indo-European gods. Finnish gods are Asian Uralics gods, wizards and witches gods another level another roots. Totally diferentes in actions and ideologies.
@TheRealBaldwinIV
@TheRealBaldwinIV 3 ай бұрын
@@TuaTeMauAkauAtea They are similar to other Uralic ppls and Tengrism/Siberian shamanism
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea
@TuaTeMauAkauAtea 3 ай бұрын
@@TheRealBaldwinIV Yes, Tengrism is Siberian shamanism and another approach, it is much more mystical and naturalistic than European religions. But okay, let's not delve into any field of belief, let's stay on the superficial. I already knew this information, I didn't want to and I don't want to discuss it.
@TheRealBaldwinIV
@TheRealBaldwinIV 3 ай бұрын
@@TuaTeMauAkauAtea Ealriht
@oestergaard141
@oestergaard141 10 ай бұрын
Heimdall does not OPEN the gate between the worlds, he watches the paths, as a guard, and his main job is actually to look out for the start of ragnarok, the end of the world, and signal everyone by blowing in his horn.
@barrettdecutler8979
@barrettdecutler8979 8 ай бұрын
But I thought he operated the bifrost, which acts as a bridge among the nine realms?
@oestergaard141
@oestergaard141 8 ай бұрын
No, it is a bridge, it is not a device. Nobody operates it, you watched too much marvel movies....@@barrettdecutler8979
@RootGroves-hl8kt
@RootGroves-hl8kt 6 ай бұрын
@@barrettdecutler8979 From Marvel?
@craigmurrayauthor
@craigmurrayauthor 29 күн бұрын
this was very interesting, thank you
@Lalilola1000
@Lalilola1000 9 ай бұрын
Its interesting how different I myself would pronounce each word compared to the pronounciations for the Norwegian girl in this video. Some of the time I thought to myself «really?» because I pronounce it in such a different way. It almost didn’t sound Norwegian to me. But of course, I get told by people that they sometimes have difficulty understanding me even though we speak the same language. (My dialect is difficult to place, its not uncommon, but its different from what you’d hear in the bigger cities). Norwegians could probably have their own video with pronounciations with different dialects. Also, I had more norse mythology in school than a few months in high school. I remember learning about it in both 4. grade and some years before high school. Some was taught during religion, language and social studies. But that might differ based on the school and when you grew up. Curriculums are changed all the time, not surprising at all.
@JMPERager
@JMPERager 10 ай бұрын
I think what could've made the video better is if they had a screen with the words and their spelling WITH SPECIAL CHARACTERS like Ö, ö, Ð, ð, Þ, þ in all different languages. That way the others can visualise how it's spelled, but also put like pronunciation underneath so they see how special characters are pronounced.
@rigelr5345
@rigelr5345 10 ай бұрын
Would have been interesting to see a representative from the Faeroe Islands as well!
@iamtics
@iamtics 10 ай бұрын
Hevði veri stuttligt
@teza2922
@teza2922 10 ай бұрын
In Sweden we say Oden or Odin
@Tenseiken_
@Tenseiken_ 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes I can totally see how you SAY THE WORD by you typing it.
@teza2922
@teza2922 10 ай бұрын
@@Tenseiken_ I don't know if I understand your comment, but the God Odin is called both Odin or Oden depending on where in Sweden you come from. The difference is the ending of the word with in or en at the end.
@aIesssandra
@aIesssandra 10 ай бұрын
@@Tenseiken_?
@cognomen9142
@cognomen9142 8 ай бұрын
Oden, never "Odin" (unless you're into Anglicisms).
@teza2922
@teza2922 8 ай бұрын
​@@cognomen9142 I'm from Sweden and I've heard both but yes mostly we say Oden, at least we do in the southern part of Sweden.
@jab3020
@jab3020 5 ай бұрын
in finland we would say PERKELE
@fleetskipper1810
@fleetskipper1810 6 ай бұрын
Love this! More please.
@marty8895
@marty8895 10 ай бұрын
Iceland is very famous for its sagas so I can see why the islandic girl seems to me more knowledgeable and very proud of the culture. Love her!
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 9 ай бұрын
Or she is more interested in the subject. I meet many Icelandic people that are pretty blank. I dont think they are much more into it than the the scandinavian countries tbh.
@joninarebekka2966
@joninarebekka2966 10 ай бұрын
(Icelandic person here) It's Ásgarður in Icleandic, but I understand the mistake. It was interesting how nobody asked about the windy "H"-y "R"'s we have haha
@sesseljafririksdottir5139
@sesseljafririksdottir5139 10 ай бұрын
Hahaha þau spurðu mig ekki um stafsetninguna 😆 Var sjálf bara ha? Þegar ég sá hvernig þau skrifuðu Ásgarður
@joninarebekka2966
@joninarebekka2966 10 ай бұрын
@@sesseljafririksdottir5139 Aaa já það hefði verið gaman að sjá hvernig allir stafa allt 😁 en geggjað að sjá íslending í þessum myndböndum, er þetta allt í Bandaríkjunum eða hvar er þetta?
@holmaringi-skolin253
@holmaringi-skolin253 9 ай бұрын
@@joninarebekka2966Þetta er í suður Kóreu held ég
@blue2mato312
@blue2mato312 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@holmaringi-skolin253 Jeg forstod det du sa på islandsk her, morsomt! Og litt av det de over deg skrev, men bare stykkvis.
@whoisthatmusic3938
@whoisthatmusic3938 6 ай бұрын
Not to offend the Norwegian girl, but she didn’t really look very Norwegian and pronounced a lot of the words completly wrong of how we would actually pronounce them and didn’t seem to know much about the topic they are talking about. Also we do have way more than 1 month of learning about norse mythology and the viking age in our schools.
@rickardt1222
@rickardt1222 6 ай бұрын
I believe she is Persian 🤡
@ToneyCrimson
@ToneyCrimson 4 ай бұрын
Im from Norway and can tell you she did completely fine. But i know why you think it sounds wrong, its because "she doesnt look very norwegian", its all in your head. And no we dont learn norse mythology more than 1 or 2 months, depending on the school district you are in.
@rickardt1222
@rickardt1222 4 ай бұрын
@@ToneyCrimson I dont really care how well she pronouced the words. The fact that they chose a non-norwegian to represent norwegians here is one step further to undermine the natives right to their own lands. trust me im swedish, so I know how this goes. Now, I dont believe this is super serious, it's not made by the goverment, paid for my taxpayers. But you need to be on the lookout for BS like this. Unless you want to wake up one day and be a minority in your ancestors homeland. Sweden is working hard on this but you guys are only like 20 years behind.
@marvin6936
@marvin6936 2 ай бұрын
@@rickardt1222 thats wild
@GigasoftProductions
@GigasoftProductions 5 күн бұрын
@@ToneyCrimson No, her pronunciation is completely off. If you can't tell the difference between her and a native speaker, then you need hearing aids. A notable mispronunciation is "Mjøllnir" with the incorrect rhythm and with an i, before she corrects herself when saying it the second time. Another is when she says "Balder" as if it's a plural of "Bald".
@kitcutting
@kitcutting 7 ай бұрын
Germanic language squad: (American) English: rhotic “r” pronunciation Icelandic: closest to Old Norse pronunciation Sweden: pitch accents Norwegian: middle-of-the-road Danish: closest to German pronunciation Finnish: happy to be here! 😊
@TheRealBaldwinIV
@TheRealBaldwinIV 3 ай бұрын
Finnish is Uralic like Estonian not Teutonic
@NeptuneAlpheccaChild
@NeptuneAlpheccaChild 6 ай бұрын
so much fun !!! thank you ladies
@KajiRider1997
@KajiRider1997 10 ай бұрын
in the netherlands Thor as called Donner. Literally Thunder. Its why we have the word Donder and Donderdag. to us he was not the god of thunder, he literally was the thunder
@autumnphillips151
@autumnphillips151 8 ай бұрын
Same thing in English. Thunor (written as Þunor, because Old and Middle English had the thorn just like Old Norse did) was the Old English word for Thor, and that’s where we got Thunder and Thursday from.
@sashakasprzyk5683
@sashakasprzyk5683 10 ай бұрын
Friday is Freija day.
@fastertove
@fastertove 10 ай бұрын
Fridag is the day of Odins wife "Frigg"
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon 10 ай бұрын
​@@fastertove i want to say that too
@sashakasprzyk5683
@sashakasprzyk5683 9 ай бұрын
@@fastertove Freja Beha Erichsen is a Danish model.
@sashakasprzyk5683
@sashakasprzyk5683 9 ай бұрын
@@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon Danish model Freja Beha Erichsen is arguably Denmark’s most celebrated fashion export.
@fastertove
@fastertove 9 ай бұрын
Don't know her, and I frankly don't care about fashion... Why is that relevant? @@sashakasprzyk5683
@oh515
@oh515 10 ай бұрын
In Norway we pronounce some of the names differently. Both Loke and Loki, or Mjølne, Mjølner, and Mjølnir. It depends on dialects, and in some cases written language (we have 3 official). The Norwegian girl said Mjølnir first time, and Mjølner the second time. Both is correct. Some will also pronounce the r’s more like the Danish girl.
@mariiris1403
@mariiris1403 7 ай бұрын
No, just two: bokmål and nynorsk.
@oh515
@oh515 7 ай бұрын
@@mariiris1403 Yes, it’s only two official Norwegian written languages, but some write ‘Riksmål.’ But it’s not official though.
@mariiris1403
@mariiris1403 7 ай бұрын
@@oh515 Exactly, and it is just a conservative form of bokmål.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 6 ай бұрын
@@oh515 Riksmål is the easiest for Danes to read. It's exactly like a dyslexic typing in Danish the way it's said.
@annominous826
@annominous826 6 ай бұрын
@@andersjjensen Well, if we're including Riksmål, then we should also include Landsmål.
@enothemeno
@enothemeno 10 ай бұрын
love this !
@janetmackinnon3411
@janetmackinnon3411 6 ай бұрын
How very interesting! Thank you all.
@ANJING_SITUMORANG
@ANJING_SITUMORANG 10 ай бұрын
Why translation for Finnish person have typos? Y is Y in Finnish not U. Maybe person who translate is English speaker. She say alphabets in Finnish way, A is A... but translation in text is wrong.
@sebastiangade
@sebastiangade 10 ай бұрын
The translation text is wrong 90% of the time, and they even mess up when they're just speaking English
@turkoositerapsidi
@turkoositerapsidi 10 ай бұрын
In Suomi (finnis) the Y is about the same sound that Ü is in Estonian or German.
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon
@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon 10 ай бұрын
nordic is for translate to hard. same as frisian translate
@turkoositerapsidi
@turkoositerapsidi 10 ай бұрын
@@FrisiiBattleBrotherRaymon :(
@PhilDancer
@PhilDancer 7 ай бұрын
The main thing I learned from this is that I prefer Scandinavian women over American women.
@bradallard1542
@bradallard1542 6 ай бұрын
Facts
@squidcaps4308
@squidcaps4308 10 ай бұрын
Huge parts of modern English comes from Danish and Norway, because of Vikings. So, not so much Germany but Danish.
@thevannmann
@thevannmann 10 ай бұрын
She's talking about the pronunciation. If an English speaker says "Heim" they will read it as "High-m".
@inotoni6148
@inotoni6148 10 ай бұрын
But the Anglo-Saxons from northern Germany completely occupied what is now England and brought the Anglo-Saxon language there. The Celtic language was completely suppressed. Frisian, which is still spoken by some people in northern Germany, is very similar to English.
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 10 ай бұрын
​@inotoni6148 the angles where fromt jutland which became danish about 1500 years ago, until the 1860s when germany took southern Jutland
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheBarser: But Niedersachsen is still named after the Saxons , and Niederdeutsch/ Low(land) German, spoken in german states Niedersachsen, Schleswig - Holstein, Hamburg, Bremen and mecklenburgish part of Mecklenburg - Vorpommern has still similarities to english. And : Schleswig and Holstein had been up to 1864 ruled by danish King, but only as a socalled Personal Union '. The duchy Holstein was settled only by german people, and in duchy Schleswig german people had been more than danish people.
@TheBarser
@TheBarser 10 ай бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 slesvig was not always filled with germans. They arrived later and when they where the majority is kinda the reason it was justified by bismarck to annex it. Holstein is different
@m4rt_
@m4rt_ 8 күн бұрын
Fun fact, spoken, Norwegian and Swedish are close, but written, Norwegian and Danish is closer. At least when using Bokmål, as that is based on Danish. While how it is spoken is separate from all that, and Norway shares a border with Sweden, so it's natural that we share some of how our languages are spoken. Norway has a weird system of having two written languages Bokmål and Nynorsk, where the latter is based on dialects, mostly from the western parts of Norway, while the former as I mentioned earlier is based on Danish. And then we have a bunch of dialects, and sometimes we even try to do written versions of those dialects, though this is more of an informal thing that people do for fun. (Sámi is also a language in Norway, but it is an entirely different thing. It is from the Uralic language family, while Norwegian is a North Germanic language.)
@Merlinious
@Merlinious 6 ай бұрын
As an American, we were taught about Norse mythology along with Greek mythology when I was in seventh, eighth and ninth grade. In the 1990's. We even had T.V. shows and movies about it. I don't know why she wasn't taught this or has never heard of it.
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