North-like drums made from Sewer pipe? (And other drum heresies)

I made a set of drums from sewer pipe and cannibalized Gretsch round-badge, Rogers, and classic Slingerland drums. What was I thinking??!!
00:00 Pre-introduction
00:40 Introduction
03:22 The original toms
04:35 The backstory of the homemade drums
08:49 The parts and tools you'll need
12:44 Measuring and drilling
27:46 Holes for the mounting bracket and lugs
42:16 Sanding the shells
48:43 Prepping for paint
57:51 Painting the shells
59:45 Mounting the hardware
1:01:05 Modification of the lugs
1:03:11 Attaching the chrome strip, head and rim
1:19:36 The finished product!
1:20:00 Fixing the crack
1:21:29 How to ruin a classic Gretsch round-badge bass drum
1:22:29 Description of the full kit
1:26:15 The sound from the audience's perspective
1:32:54 The sound from the drummer's perspective

[@kent-oveprestberg3578]

These three 6" toms would make a great compliment to any drumkit.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks for watching! I really like the high-pitch ones, too. Any drummer can add them, it just takes a lot of time, effort, and sewer pipe! :)

[@Greggyboyz60]

They sound incredible. Imagine if they were mic'd up. Very well done here.

[@samsvibes]

The drums sound great and so do you!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the kind words--I appreciate it!

[@dwaynedarockjohnson2023]

Yes. I know them as stage drums or theatre drums and I commend you on your perfect presentation of exactly how they are to be introduced. From start to finish that is how it is done people. This man is legend. He is fantastic wonderful great amazing and does deserve a trophy plus its sexy to have fun and cut loose a little enjoying your natural talent.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

:)

[@jpilot07]

This is pure love!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

:)

[@jeremywatanabe3994]

Not only can this man play! But also builds drums!! Hell yah!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

:) Thanks for the kind words! And thank you for watching, I appreciate it.

[@christiner1225]

Hey my old friend!! You are still a talented, and amazing human. 😃 it’s good to see your videos. 🎶🎶🎶💕

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you! I'm glad you're watching them--I appreciate it.

[@outlawz1975]

for those to be sewer pipes they sound great I've played drums for 30 years and trust me those sound really good GREAT JOB!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks for the kind words! Not everyone agrees, but I like them a lot, too. Thanks for watching!

[@theunitygainshowwithjeffan206]

Hey there Chris. Keddy Blumenthal here (Don’s brother). I remember playing your homemade drums back in the 80’s. You were giving my friend Steve lessons and you invited several of us drummers over to have a jam session. So much fun. Great memories. Love the channel. 👌

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you! There are so many great memories associated with the "pipe drums." I'm really glad to have them back. Thanks for watching and the positive comment, I appreciate it!

[@madturkproductions8968]

they sound awesome

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you! I appreciate it. They are pretty fun to build, too.

[@DarrenJohnMusic]

Awesome playing and awesome video. Completely enjoyed this! Thank ypu, Chris!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

That's very kind of you to say--I appreciate it! Thanks for watching.

[@someonesaidyes]

Amazing in so many ways. I loved every moment of this. Thank you for sharing.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the kind words! I appreciate it, and thanks for watching.

[@DavenWilliamson1]

I had a Rogers drum kit from there up early 80s. I inherited it from my uncle who played in a band in Los Angeles and then he died in a motorcycle accident and I inherited his drum set and then I added on to it so I had 6 8 10 12 13 14 15 in 16-inch tom-toms with 18 and 20 inch 4 X 24 inch bass drum that I got a double kick pedal Paiste cymbals but then my ex-wife stole it from me. It was fun I was in a band called jungle fish we played gigs all over California those days are gone

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Wow--what a rollercoaster ride; tragedy followed by something cool followed by another tragedy! That set sounds completely awesome; it must have been really tough to lose it due to a divorce. At least you have some great memories with it. Thank you for watching!

[@riffffraffff]

unexpectedly good and special sound of these toms. your whole product is a piece of love. thanks for sharing.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for watching! I appreciate it.

[@missm3168]

Mic piece! Yaaaay!!! I can hear you.👍

[@christhedrummerkimball]

:)

[@chromebull884]

This is easily one of the best DIY drum projects on youtube. I may have to make a set of 6",8",10",12",14",16",18" and 20".

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Just be warned, the pipe gets unbelievably expensive at the larger sizes! Thanks for watching!

[@desertexplorations]

Extraordinary! Very cool. What a fun project

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for watching! I did really enjoy making them, it was a much fun as it was back in the '70s.

[@edwardprzydzial]

sounds great. clean and tight. great for recording.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it. Thanks for watching!

[@Brassyvideos3]

Sounds great. Great job making them...

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the kind words, and for watching!

[@davesbasementband4564]

Great video. Great kit, they play a big role “Rockin’ the House” in Dave’s Basement Band.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

If they just weren't so darn loud...! :)

[@williambradfordbaldwin4386]

I didnt think the sewer toms sounded that great when you were testing them , but when you played them together it wasnt that bad! It seems they dont resonate great but maybe they project on stage? Im really glad to see someone do this, I use to play around with a lot of drum ideas but I dont have a suitable shop to work out of now and that hurts, because I would be very happy making stuff! Good job again ! I dont care what anybody says youre good!! :)

[@christhedrummerkimball]

thank you!

[@264roy]

Just f:::::ing awesome. I’m a guitarist and want to build these.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

If you do, let me know how they turn out! Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.

[@benmollitor3776]

That's awsome.. Nice work.. Those are cool.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks--they turned out pretty well!

[@mightyV444]

My big Brother had the same great idea of making drums out of pipe when I was 13 (in '83), however we soon abandoned the idea when we discovered the exact same thing of the diameter being measured *inside* the pipe. And thank you for the video, Chris! I didn't mind it being "long" and also thought your talking was quite entertaining at times. Greetings from NZ! 😀

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks for watching! When I was in general plastics class during my freshman year of high school (in 1974) I made several drum shells from fiberglass. Most of them worked well, although one was too thin and ended up morphing into a square shape after a year or so of use! :)

[@mightyV444]

@@christhedrummerkimball - Oops! 😄 I was only 4 years old in '74. But it wouldn't be long before I'd find out my dear Mother's big, capped Tupperware bowls worked quite well as drums, too! 😄

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@mightyV444 :)

[@mightyV444]

@@christhedrummerkimball - There must also be quite a few drummers who've at least attempted to make Octobans out of pipe, I reckon 😀

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@mightyV444 I'm sure you're right!

[@DavenWilliamson1]

You are rocking bro and very interested and impressed by your creativity I've built drum sets out of buckets and PVC did a good job of it actually quite a while but you are on spot

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the kind words--it's cool you made drums out of such diverse material! Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.

[@erritwilson9927]

Interesting build

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks! Necessity, as they say, is the mother of invention. Thanks for watching!

[@sticksbass]

awesome, the 6" sound like the twilight zone bongos.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

...they take you to another dimension. A dimension of sound...:)

[@sticksbass]

@@christhedrummerkimball indeed

[@michaelcanter3474]

sounds good buddy

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you, and thanks for watching!

[@williambradfordbaldwin4386]

Thats I always wanted to do this thinkin of the 1" thick black stuff, have some but havent made any yet, cool stuff man!!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

thank you!

[@AlejandroMartinez-fr6hj]

Pretty cool!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you very much--I really appreciate the positive comment! Thanks for watching.

[@122Music1]

Yer awesome dude! Thanx

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the kind words. Also, thanks for watching!

[@michaelfinan9836]

Love the rings. I use them to

[@christhedrummerkimball]

It is so funny how some people love them and others hate them... It reminds me of politics! :). Thanks for watching.

[@StevesRykerAdventures]

Have you thought of putting bottom heads on the sewer pipe drums? On that Roger North interview, he mentioned the kit he plays was one of his that he made with bottom heads. Just curious...

[@christhedrummerkimball]

I actually hadn't thought of that--I was just thinking of the North Drums when I built these. That would be a very interesting thing to do--I don't know what it would do to the sound, but it might make them sound better. Maybe I'll give that a try sometime. If you get to it before I do, let me know how it works out! :) Thanks for watching.

[@Circadianarrhythmia]

I’ve actually tried that with my pipe octobans and it really just doesn’t sound right to me at least. I’ll definitely try to get my hands on some of a buddy’s extra pipe ends to try these though! Small toms don’t really seem to sound that nice with a reso head unless they’re tuned down (I like to tune my toms pretty high and use larger sizes) and it doesn’t add resonance to such a high pitch, it just makes it sound a little funny

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@Circadianarrhythmia Cool! Let me know how it works out.

[@dwaynedarockjohnson2023]

@@Circadianarrhythmia you have pipe octobans. Pls provide link

[@edwardkoch7184]

First off, I need to commend you, you’re very methodical in your presentation. Thank you for sharing your passion. I need to do this... Maybe when I do decide to retire I’ll have enough patience to take on this endeavor, or find a set of North drums.😁 Excellent job!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the encouragement! If I didn't still have my business I would have more time to do this kind of thing, which I really enjoy. In a couple of years I should have more time, I just hope I don't run out of ideas!

[@edwardkoch7184]

@@christhedrummerkimball you are welcome Chris. My background is Mechanical/piping field engineer. I’ve always had this urge to tackle a project like this but unfortunately I do not have enough hours available in my week to attempt this, as I previously mentioned. Is the company you mentioned in your video still in business, I tried opening their website and got an error message, please advise. Thank you.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@edwardkoch7184 That is really weird, I just tried the website and I got the same thing! I called [phone] and got their answering machine (they're closed on the weekend) so I think they are OK, they must jut be having problems with their website. I'd try calling them on Monday to see what's up.

[@edwardkoch7184]

@@christhedrummerkimball ok, will do, thanks again. Have a great weekend!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@edwardkoch7184 You, too!

[@sticksbass]

i wish everybody were like u.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you--if only I could get my wife to think that way...:)

[@jimmyforest996]

They sound better than North, nice job.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you! It was a fun experiment. Took me back to my college days...:)

[@sammybulin]

Enjoyed the video. Did you do a bearing edge or do drums like that not have one? They look really good. I'm glad you have such a good attitude for the internet drummer trolls. I've never seen anyone in my life use pinstripe heads on the bottom of a drum. Is that a marching snare? You are very entertaining and genuine. Keep it up.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for the kind words! In answer to your questions: The pipe has a natural kind of bearing edge--it's sort of a sharp edge around the outside diameter sloping inward. I sanded the edge a little to get rid of any excess bumps at the seams, but other than that I didn't do too much about the edges. The trolls are to be expected, and I think the best way to deal with them is by being nice--kind of a little passive-aggressive on my part, I guess! The reason I used pinstripes on the bottom is because my original plan was to go pinstripe on all the batter heads and use a thinner head on the bottom sp I put the Pinstripes on the bottom as a temporary thing, but now I've tried the Fiberskyn Diplomats on my North kit I think I've going to replace all the heads with those; I really like the sound of them. I think the snare was originally a marching snare, or it could have even been a tom--it's been so long I can't remember! I just know I loved how it looked when I covered it with the copper-clad aluminum. I just put a Fiberskyn on it, and it made it sound pretty good. Thank you again for watching and your comments, I appreciate it.

[@ajmpatriot4899]

That is sweet, I’m going to do this! Thanks! 👍 Why the duplicate/ triplicate sized drums on one kit? Never seen that. Great job!

[@christhedrummerkimball]

As long as you tune them differently it works well to have duplicates, plus it means you can have more drums in one kit! Thanks for watching!

[@RUHDD4HVN]

You should contact the makers of "Superior Drums" and have them make an awesome version of your drums into a VST format........ just sayin. It would be a hit.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Great idea! Thanks for watching.

[@sticksbass]

np would b impressed.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you! One could only hope! :)

[@danielreily2701]

I have been thinking for a while about the possibility of a kit made from sewer pipe. I work near factories that make and store the pipes and so that fired my imagination, so thanks for saving me the effort and the surprising high cost. One tip I would like to pass on ,something I discovered when rebuilding a Mapex kit. Swap the bass drums metal hoops for wood hoops . The improvement in the sound is amazing. I am not a great fan of single headed drums as the sound possibilities with a resonant head are so much better but having said that , I like North drums and Phil Collins ! Also use resonant heads not pinstrips on the bottom. Just a suggestion . I don't understand why pairs of identical size toms ? If you have to transport and the real estate big kits take up ,then have a back up little kit.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks for watching, and for your thoughtful comments. If you live close to a factory, you might be able to get some pipe at dealer cost. That's what I was able to do in college and it made a big difference in the overall price of building the drums. I'm still experimenting with heads; I'm almost finished with a video I'm making after switching out all the North CS heads for Fiberskyn Diplomats. Watch for that to come out in a week or two. I will probably switch out the heads on the sewer pipe set with Fiberskyns as well. I like their sound quite a lot. Based on your suggestion, I am going to start looking for a couple of 20" wooden hoops, too. I just saw a couple for sale, and they were Gretsch which is the type of bass drum I use on the sewer pipe set, so they would be perfect. Problem is, they wanted some exorbitant price for them! When I was in college I got rid of the wooden hoops because I thought the chrome ones looked cooler...:/ Thanks again for watching, I appreciate it!

[@danielreily2701]

@@christhedrummerkimball Hey ,thanks for the reply. I really am not going to build a sewer pipe kit because you have and I just wanted to hear the sound. Years ago I put Fiberskyn heads on my Rodgers kit ,The result was interesting because they only sounded good when tuned high ,great for jazz but I like a versatile sound but I found the Buddy Rich sound by accident !. Point here is that you need to try a verity of heads ( hydraulics ?) to find the sweet spot that hits the tone you need. Why not take a 6" sewer drum to a helpful drum store and if possible try different heads ,when they realize how many you will be buying you will have no problem. I live in Melbourne Australia but lived 19 years in Texas. I got so much great gear ( the wood hoops) for incredible cheap prices . I like your Mini is it a Cooper ?

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@danielreily2701 I think the Fiberskyns sound better higher-pitched, too, but with the North drums' marginal bearing-edges they sound better lower, too, because they conform to the irregularities better than the thicker heads. Yes, that is a 1990 Rover Mini. It was made in England and exported to Japan, then back to the USA. It's right-hand drive, and pretty fun to drive!

[@danielreily2701]

@@christhedrummerkimball I had a Rover 2000 (Mum did ) then a v8 but the English built four cylinder was the better car. Reshape the irregularities in the fiberglass. Check out the sound of the Fibes kit played by the Polish drummer, has to be the best kit I've ever heard. Headphones of course.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@danielreily2701 Great ideas--thank you!

[@benjaminbenson3399]

Thanks for all the videos. Very inspiring. Quick question (though I realize I'm late asking so it's a bit of a hail mary hoping for a response )there must be options available in sewer pipe for a more traditional arrangement,though I suspect the bottom heads would make it a more time consuming task.ok,so dig, I've always wanted drums that have shells formed with hallowed tree trunks ( years ago I bought a used snare I found at a music go round, made by this Australian company I cant seem to recall the name of, who used shells seemlessly carved from a single logs for all their drums. I wish I knew how it had been accomplished. That drum sounded truly far out, but the one used snare cost me about as much as my entire five piece DW kit did new . I can't seem to recall the brands name but there was no way I could afford an entire kit from them. Anyway, over the years I've asked a bunch of drummers if they were aware of any method I could use to make similar drums DIY, but none were able to impart any useful information, so I'll ask here. Can you think of a pre-made product , similar to straight sewer pipes but using wood? Or are you aware of any method a brother can use to precisely hollow logs out hisself? For use as a substitute to the PVC in your super groovy project, Without, having access to a million dollar cnc machine ?thanks so much For your time.BTW your skills as a drummer are clear, it's seems to all but yourself . It seems obvious that you must have spent a large part of your life behind a drum set,because your name is the only thing you wouldn't have had in common with Neil pert IMO your drumming is solidly in his league (accually, properly reasoned, it's a safe bet you are considerably better as of the time of this writing, in fact it'd be most unlikely he could hold a stick without assistance.if you'll forgive my utterly inappropriate implication.lol? No its just too soon and always will be.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you for watching, and your kind words! As far as your question, the only thing I can think of would be to find someone with a large wood lathe to do it. The problem, of course, would be creating the floor toms and bass drum. Even the curved pvc pipe gets horrendously expensive once you get beyond 10" diameter. You might want to join a number of drum-related Facebook groups and ask them. Thanks again for watching!

[@fredjeannieschultz1251]

Chris, I enjoyed the video. I started this morning with a couple of political videos that put me in a bad frame of mind. Then, I watched your video in its entirety, and found that I was relaxed and thinking about drums instead of politics. I too am 61 years old and have played the drums since I was 9, so I grew up during the 70's when drum set first started to be massive. Back in the day I had a nine piece Slingerland set with a walnut finish. I also saw Alan White with Yes during their 1977 Going for the One tour when he used a couple of North toms. Do you remember seeing ads for North Drums as well as Staccato Drums in Modern Drummer magazines? I always thought that they looked cool, but would be a pain to transport. Your sewer pipe drums sound and look great. They remind me of the old days when Carl Palmer, Neal Peart and Barriemore Barlow were all using 6", 8" 10" & 12" concert toms. Times sure have changed. Anyhow, I'm glad to see that you still enjoy playing after all of these years, and still have some chops: )

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks for the kind words! Yes, politics is a depressing subject for sure these days. Drumming really is an escape. I do remember the ads for North drums, in fact I even have one of their original, glossy brochures! Thanks for watching and your thoughtful comments.

[@spercoco]

I think you should be able to get that snare sounding much better. It looks like it's at least 10 inches deep but I assume 14 inch diameter? Have your tried tightening both bottom and top head and maybe even tightening the snare wires? What is the shell material? I know the finish is copper but is it metal, brass, aluminum?

[@christhedrummerkimball]

I've been trying different things with the Fiberskyn head I put on it, and it sounds pretty good now. The shell is wood, but I'm not sure what kind. It's an old marching drum, I believe, I converted to a snare many years ago. The copper-clad aluminum is pretty thin, maybe 1/64" or less. For the kind of rock music the band plays a deeper sound fits in well, so that's how I have it tuned currently., it's very fat-sounding now.

[@dwaynedarockjohnson2023]

So okay. Here's the soup about ur video.( You seem like an industrious fellow...) I did skip to the end to hear the drums. Then I went back to hear about them. "So back in college"...(pause) "I was able to build 6 of these drums..(pause) And what happened was is I was ...(pause) a drummer. Sir. What was ur major? Forming formica...and sanded it? I am ... familiar with those lugs. Blue fake fur...... Um that's an interesting philosophy about ur friend. But okay. Wow. This video. Is a legacy. Okay I'm hooked I'll watch u make them. Vintage lugs at 43 8 out of 12 what 7 a piece ..approximate..not bad Yes autobody chrome, I have that on my vintage mercury sport baby yeah!! Jeez sticker shock but not bad actually comparatively...but then u defend the crappy sound u say.....actually ends up not bad. Oh no...this part....the instructions So basically the heads are canopied over the top? WHAT?! Wait ur 61. Not bad. So like u made the original set 40 years ago when u were 20 in c o l l e g e so basically you did actually make them in the 70s....which is the end of the precambrian dayum. Those drums DO LAST but you dont look THAT ancient. Shouldn't u look like a mummy? Oh yeah. Perfect. They look good. Yup correct. Good. . Okay drill time Pilot hole...hmmm...yes... Mm downsizing the pilot hole and the distance between the seam and the lug at 2 and 7/8 inches quantified is pretty solid as HALF the distance as u said. Boom power! Yay! What? When u were younger u used to gamble? Cool pops. And now ur older ....yeah u have more patience until u get older to the point where u become cranky and less patient and MORE irritable. So pls beware! 19 64th drill bit... Pilot hole... "Hot knife through butter" "It works as a drum" "Close but fear it is slightly off" "Primitive Pete method" "Round it off until it just slips in there" Heh hem.. OKAY Mr. .... Um...primitive Pete yeah. Spill the t. Screw driver for a hammer....? U dont say.... careful.... make SURE your hand is not INSIDE the pipe when drilling....because remember u can't feel the drill until it's in ur finger! Ur scaring me pls slow down.... Too risque' Careful what u say ..yeah A complete dweeb...yeah "Of course as you see me ream these things out" Um... No ur not making urself look like dweeb....I mean...not really. This is taking a long time. So u are going to be making two ?...of them. So 35 bucks is all on you if u mess it up you ARE a dweeb ...okay I get it But u wont mess it up cause u made them already 40 years ago so it's like ur basically able to manifest them from thought form to physical form with basically a felt marker and following the guidance of the inner mounting holes of the bracket. U bent the bracket? Oooh pro move. Nice. U know y u run into things because u are not practicing tai chi. If you would simply practice standing on one leg and then alternate, you would be less prone to accident and have less anxiety of getting ur arm stuck in that vice ... Louder: "One of the things I haven't gottent around to yet" Yes yes I'm paying attention, are we ready now? 13 64th bit for mounting of the tom bracket Aye aye Capt. "Nothing more dangerous than a dull tool as pete says" Okay I'll remember not to be a dummy.... Or have dummy friends. A dull pete or whatever. Thick plastic. Cool. How's it gonna work pops? Get longer bolts!! No. Use this device! A sideways drive with a grinding ball. But that's where the video goes bad off rail. Maybe. Cut. Wow cool attachment Yes loud Melted plastic. File. Damn only 1/2 through...why does time seem extended when filing... 19 64ths drill Dang this is tedious Yeah Why do we sand? Let's use formica compound and mold them!? Ugg cleaning them..... Whyyyyy Nevermind.... Sanding... Come on I want to play them!! Paint! Reconvene Sanding table Sanding machine What are we doing ? Uhhhhhh... Okay let's use compound clay.... And then paint or wait compound clay, paper machet' and paint....and the drill ! Let drill holes and poke christmas lights in them and make an electric light drumset and let's connect the lights passive to the amplifier and then we can......use the paper machet'and compound clay to make the drums look like king gidorah but instead of blue fur were using compound clay to make an outer skin like covering that we can carve with plastic ustinsels then use aacrylic metallic wash to look like authentic scales. We can glaze it to give that dewy finish so when ur playing them like a beast and ur headband fails and sweat is flinging from your head onto the gidorah drumset it looks natural and not dweeby. Yep rub the pipe all over and then.....dang its NIGHTTIME already? Jeez. Can we eat? ....Then come back and finish? Electric tape Omg come on. So when we make these need to set aside time.... 5 8ths In.... Take the tape and ..... What are we doing ? "Part of the joy of a hand made anything is the fact that its...not going to be totally perfect" I would argue that fallacy sir. Pls dont complain... What are we doing? Oh covering it because we are going to spray paint it? Hmmm. Okay. I think we should use uv paints on parts of the gidorah in kanji. What are u doing? Tape on tape. Hm. ._. Trim a paper plate making slits to form petals. What else can we make after this drumset? Can we turn a hatchback into a micro oscar weinermobile? And mount the drums on the roof, u stand in the sun roof, I'll drive. "Alright let's go, set it on the paint table and start spraying"....... ..

[@christhedrummerkimball]

I have never seen a longer comment in my life! Thanks for watching--whew!

[@soberhippie]

Cool kit, dude. Man, you look younger than you probably are

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you! Well, I'm 61, and sometimes I don't feel old, other times, for example when I try to put on my socks, I feel ancient...:) Thanks for watching!

[@sullyrl8420]

very cool video, i recently cracked my china and it has gotten to the point of no return, any suggestions for what cymbal pack to get as i also need a new crash and splash for my percussion. price range doesn’t matter too much as i would like to invest in some good cymbals

[@christhedrummerkimball]

I always recommend Zildjian, if price doesn't matter. The sewer pipe set is just a practice set, so the cymbals aren't anything special, but on my other sets I use almost exclusively A Zildjians. A couple of years ago I picked up a 18" A Zildjian China type and I really like the way it sounds. Recently I got a Wuhan 10" splash from Amazon just because it was only $26 but it sounds great. I noticed they just raised the price on it, though... Good luck!

[@sullyrl8420]

i appreciate the reply and thanks for the advice 👍

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@sullyrl8420 Anytime!

[@danielreily2701]

@@christhedrummerkimball Wuhan China type crack very easily and don't come near the beautiful sound that the Zildjian make. Cheap ? Yes ! Worth buying ? Absolutely not.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@danielreily2701 I've never tried a Wuhan China type. The only Wuhan I have is a 10" splash which I got when they were $29.00. It sounds great and hasn't cracked yet, but I only bought it as more of a novelty to see if it was any good. Thank you for watching and for your comment!

[@stevepate7516]

What about cutting bearing edges?

[@christhedrummerkimball]

The plastic pipe has a high outer edge sloping inward and that sharp outer edge seems to work fine as a bearing edge. Thanks for watching!

[@aboutthemetal8783]

They would sound even better with a 2b or 5b hitting them hard.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

I think you're right, but I've always used Regal Tip 7A sticks. The advantage to lighter sticks is more speed and less cymbal breakage, but I can't argue with your point; heavier sticks do tend to make drums sound better. Thanks for watching!

[@okgo8315]

North drums were NOT invented or designed by Roger North (to whom he sold the original moulds)as he has claimed for over 40 years (ask Alan White, Billy Cobham, Bill Bruford), they were invented and developed by Graham Davies (rip) , a life long friend and it's about time he got the credit. He had the idea whilst looking at the flair on a trumpet and (eurika) imagined the effect visually and audibly it would have on tom toms. Among other inventions of his like the Octobans (Tama name not the original) originally designed with different lengths to be tuned to an octave, so a lot of them...12! A genius, started as a motor mechanic and even worked for Downton Engineering UK (who did engine developmant for BMC , Mini Coopers etc), their race cars which Graham worked on were legendary, and now so are his drums.👍🇬🇧🎺

[@christhedrummerkimball]

That really is an amazing backstory and I appreciate you sharing it. It will be interesting to see how many people comment on it. Thanks again!

[@Riddim4]

How did he and Roger North connect? ROGER started marketing these in 1973 when he lived in Boston.

[@okgo8315]

@@Riddim4 ....not sure but Graham was living in Surrey UK at that time, and working with top drummers as drum tech touring all over the world. Some of his percussion inventions are standard equipment, and one I know of has still not been realised.... it's as exciting as the flare tomtoms, perhaps more so.✌🇬🇧 .

[@jamokeshake9961]

Wikipedia states that in 1968 Roger North first created his drums by hand, for personal use, then in 1971 was granted a U.S. patent on the design. In 1973 he built & sold them commercially to top musicians & the public. In 1976 he licensed the rights to MTI- Music Technology Inc. to build & distribute them hoping to grow the market. In the early 80's they were no longer sold. If Graham Davies originated the concept (in the U.K.) but sold the moulds, unfortunately it seems that the "intellectual property" was not properly retained by him. Ironically, the modern concept of intellectual property developed in England in the 17th and 18th centuries though it was not until the late 20th century that intellectual property became commonplace in the majority of the world's legal systems.

[@dwaynedarockjohnson2023]

Okay let's continue ... Krylon fusion So what else cool stuff did u make in college? "Risks of being a hobbiest" I was gonna say ur shirt That looks really good!! "Do not over tighten" So hand tight. 2 washers between the tom thing Bad science fiction movie..yeah So 3 shirts 3 days okay. If u say so. "Have to have that angle u talked about" Doesnt seat completely flush a little long File What? U filed it up? Okay. Tape to cover the hole Looks good!! Yay!! Angle the lug bolts When will we get to play them? Oh. Okay. So like ...... Chrome trim Primitive pete Dont angle ur cut If u mess up the chrome trim u become dweeb. "Dont make it too long" Angle it in slightly.... But 😳 You are taking a gamble but not the end of the world u said If there is a little tiny gap u said It kinda looks like a motorcycle helmet at this point Sony aio robot !! You said we were gonna make this a drum set. "Parallel at the bottom" Round like so Keep it even Push it hard I'm bored. How much longer until we can play them? Why u yelling? Blue protective layer Goo Come on let's do it! "Usually assume that's left over from the glue" Yay mount the head You're compulsive! Lug bolts Hope Angle ... Drum key Okay Other side The angle Drum key Dont cross thread That is looking EXACTLY like the Sony aio robot. Did u ever have an earring?...in college? "As u can see they are very crooked" "But it actually does work" Finished product Looks like a million bucks!! Quick insert Addressing a crack Jb weld Grinding for a 6 inch tom Noooo dont add a head they are wrong What's this? Dave's basement band? That's ur band? Is that Dave? That's ur old college drumset? So like.... Oh that's ur music room? Yeah wu han isn't bad What r we doing? Oh there are the new drums! Hi Dave! Copper clad aluminum nice So like u were kinda old when u were n ur garage but then when u went to Dave's basement you grew younger. Play some new town swing!! That is cool when u play the low drums and when u almost make the kicker sound like a double bass Why to choose the so small bass drum? I think you should try making them from hollowed out eggplant next. So. What is the next mountain to climb? Can u play mj beat it ? U playing the kicker really fast to make it sound like that or have the tension keyed up? 💯💯❤❤🔥🔥

[@christhedrummerkimball]

I added a lot of things to my car--12" subwoofers in a '70 Toyota, 15" subwoofers in the back of a '79 Subaru Brat--yes, that was waaaaaaay back in the good old days!

[@zeusapollo8688]

Did the fur change the sound?

[@christhedrummerkimball]

It did. It muffled the sound a bit because I had it go over the bearing edge.

[@zeusapollo8688]

@@christhedrummerkimball I have had that idea for a while...was thinking to stop before the rim tho

[@christhedrummerkimball]

@@zeusapollo8688 That's the best way to do it. Back when I did it there weren't such a thing as studio rings, and I liked the muffled sound. Now I would highly recommend the most open sound you can get, because you can always dampen it any way you want using moongels, Remos, or Aquarian studio rings.

[@ronnelson7828]

I measured once and cut twice. It was still too short.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

😅

[@frankcianciarulo7823]

I loved the video! Really enjoyed the build. There is a great Facebook page called Drum Resto/mod. Check it out. Great group. I am sure they would love to check out your videos

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thanks for the tip--I'll check it out! Also, thanks for watching, I appreciate it.

[@stevekulacz7235]

Congratulations, don't quit understand why 3-6" not 1 and 2-8" not 1 but if kiss is ever looking for a new drummer buy a wig and presto you have my vote

[@christhedrummerkimball]

I like a lot of drums (always have, ever since seeing the Ludwig Octa-Plus kit in their catalogue when I was a kid) so having two of each size fills the bill! I have 3 - 6" toms because one of them cracked and I thought it was a lost cause. It turns out I was able to fix it, so I figured, "never let a good tom go to waste!" BTW, the older I get the more I think I might look better wearing Kiss makeup! :) Thanks for watching, I appreciate it.

[@jimmyforest996]

North sounded terrible no shit yours really pops.

[@christhedrummerkimball]

Thank you! I think the bearing edges of the pipes are actually pretty good straight from the factory.