North Vietnamese K-50M Submachine Gun

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The K-50M was a North Vietnamese modification of the PPSh-41 submachine gun to mimic the handling of a French MAT-49. Made from Chinese Type 50 guns (which were direct copies of the original PPSh-41) in small shops, the K-50M used a wholly new lower receiver assembly. This new lower fitted an AK pistol grip and a collapsing wire stock patterned after the MAT-49. The barrel was kept intact, but the barrel shroud was shortened, the muzzle brake/compensator removed, and a new AK (or SKS) style of front sight block added. Mechanically, the guns remained unchanged, firing from an open bolt in 7.62x25mm Tokarev caliber, with the semiauto selector switch of the original Shpagin. The K-50M is compatible with PPSh-41 drums (allowing for fitting issues), but was issued with 35-round box magazines.
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@nindger4270
@nindger4270 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like an AK and a PPS had a child and abandoned it in the wilderness where it was raised by a tribe of outcast MP40s.
@XXXXXX-ol6lb
@XXXXXX-ol6lb 3 жыл бұрын
I like your funny words magic man
@highjumpstudios2384
@highjumpstudios2384 3 жыл бұрын
I like your funny words magic man
@Chris-pi2lm
@Chris-pi2lm 3 жыл бұрын
I like your funny words magic man
@historicalaccuracy15
@historicalaccuracy15 3 жыл бұрын
....perfect description lmfao
@acidicvial
@acidicvial 3 жыл бұрын
I like your funny words magic man
@EbonTheLord
@EbonTheLord 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting SMG I first learned about from Rising Storm 2: Vietnam.
@WanganTune3DXPluDeaf
@WanganTune3DXPluDeaf 4 жыл бұрын
same and crazy fire rate!
@0devast8r0
@0devast8r0 4 жыл бұрын
Weird i just finish playing Rising Storm 2. I got some kills with it. lol
@nataneraser
@nataneraser 4 жыл бұрын
same, very interesting smg
@micahdadbeh5955
@micahdadbeh5955 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. It’s good when it’s used by a us soldier >:D
@Jaszczur-sp2tx
@Jaszczur-sp2tx 4 жыл бұрын
GI GO HOME
@swampk9
@swampk9 4 жыл бұрын
Welds on the barrel look so crude because the welder had tears in his eyes
@markwhite1780
@markwhite1780 4 жыл бұрын
That and he lost part of his vision and had a headache for a month.
@JSCB-365
@JSCB-365 4 жыл бұрын
I was aware that the gun could be reactivated. I was going to comment on that then he said it at the end of the video. I worked at a shop where a gun came in for reactivation. The tooth paste booger welds didn't take long to remove once the paperwork was in order.
@Phantom8589
@Phantom8589 4 жыл бұрын
@@JSCB-365 What paperwork is required? I got a trophy gun home from a deployment and wasn't aware I could re-activate it.
@ryanthan3595
@ryanthan3595 4 жыл бұрын
@Hoàng Nguyên this is one week ago? Damn I grew up watching my uncle weld with proper protection and were not allowed to look at the light
@DangNguyen-xx3zi
@DangNguyen-xx3zi 4 жыл бұрын
@@JSCB-365 Wouldn't those welds destroy the integrity of the gun? I can imagine the barrel not being really safe after all that heavy welding done
@kaitokatsuki6862
@kaitokatsuki6862 4 жыл бұрын
Vietnamese viewer here. We call it the K-50M in Vietnam as well. In museums and historical catalogues/documentaries, it's often referred to as "tiểu liên K-50M", meaning "K-50M submachine gun". It goes without the hyphen sometimes, I mean, it's kinda inconsistent.
@arandomguy1378
@arandomguy1378 4 жыл бұрын
Có 1 sự khác biệt "khá lớn" giữa súng trường rút gọn (carbine) và súng tiểu liên.
@kaitokatsuki6862
@kaitokatsuki6862 4 жыл бұрын
@@arandomguy1378 thanks bro, mình ko biết "carbine" dịch ra tiếng mình là gì
@placeholderHandle932
@placeholderHandle932 4 жыл бұрын
Also pretty sure the "K" prefix is not based on US docs, it's just short for "Kiểu", which is a Vietnamese word for "Type".
@buivietdungtran3065
@buivietdungtran3065 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaitokatsuki6862 carbine cứ hiểu là súng trường rút gọn
@teonguyen7955
@teonguyen7955 4 жыл бұрын
interesting ....
@caprise-music6722
@caprise-music6722 4 жыл бұрын
*EVERY TIME* I watch some war documentary on tv and I see a weapon I’m not familiar with, the next day conveniently pops up a video of it on Forgotten Weapons! It’s uncanny. Thank you! 🙏🏻
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 4 жыл бұрын
Caprise - Music gun Jesus gives
@john-paulsilke893
@john-paulsilke893 4 жыл бұрын
One might even say he works in mysterious ways.
@enest94
@enest94 4 жыл бұрын
Gun Jesus protects his flock
@bibfortuna298
@bibfortuna298 4 жыл бұрын
What documentary did this show up in?
@eberbacher007
@eberbacher007 4 жыл бұрын
recognition Bias ;)
@DansilSchroeder
@DansilSchroeder 4 жыл бұрын
Just about broke my heart when I saw it was deactivated. That's murder...
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 4 жыл бұрын
It's not dead, it's only sleeping.
@MrJeepmarine
@MrJeepmarine 4 жыл бұрын
I ought to be against the law to defile a cool peice of history like that.
@bt1234567892010
@bt1234567892010 4 жыл бұрын
I mean Ian said at the end it could be reactivated with a $200 fee. if I understood right anyway.
@Brainwashed101
@Brainwashed101 4 жыл бұрын
@@bt1234567892010 An SOT/FFL07 could definitely turn it back into a machinegun. But since the registry is closed, it still wouldn't be accessible to us peasants... *shakes fist at 1986 NFA*
@Brainwashed101
@Brainwashed101 4 жыл бұрын
@@bt1234567892010 Nevermind, I just watched it to the end and it appears to have been registered already.
@hathaway.1166
@hathaway.1166 4 жыл бұрын
Dunno if anyone knows this but Vietnam has a *double stack* variant of the Tokarev pistol called the K14-VN, it also has better sights and longer barrel for more accuracy
@a.hauptmann8798
@a.hauptmann8798 4 жыл бұрын
It still lacked a safety though.
@xpavpushka
@xpavpushka 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to know
@randomstranger9442
@randomstranger9442 4 жыл бұрын
@@a.hauptmann8798 I don't think they needed one though
@kietfeeder
@kietfeeder 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to know
@yocapo32
@yocapo32 4 жыл бұрын
@@a.hauptmann8798 Only the export version of the Tokarev had a safety, the Soviet military versions had no safeties at all.
@cabbage6015
@cabbage6015 4 жыл бұрын
K-50M is the correct vietnamese designation. K is just an abbreviation for "Kiểu" in Vietnamese, which means "type" or "model". A lot of Chinese weapons when given to Vietnam were assigned a "K" designation. For example, the Type 54 pistol, the Chinese version of the TT-33, is called K-54 in Vietnam
@TungNguyen-zq1rr
@TungNguyen-zq1rr 4 жыл бұрын
hóa ra chữ k là như vậy :)))
@coolsenjoyer
@coolsenjoyer 4 жыл бұрын
It seems that a lot of Asian languages have single word that can be translated to either Type or Model. Makes me wonder why in the west we choose to translate it to Type even though in non-Asian weapons are usually designated Model something or other.
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood 4 жыл бұрын
Probably just direct translating the names.
@IKnowImStupidBut
@IKnowImStupidBut 4 жыл бұрын
@@Drownedinblood infact, it is
@RobertPilla
@RobertPilla 4 жыл бұрын
"open gaps in the gun..." You mean, "mud alleviation ports."
@ajcossey
@ajcossey 4 жыл бұрын
More like, "mud ingress points"
@diltzm
@diltzm 4 жыл бұрын
Lol let me know how that goes for you
@justin4323
@justin4323 4 жыл бұрын
nobody: Ian: Somehow the French had influenced this.
@johnwilliams9179
@johnwilliams9179 4 жыл бұрын
Basically
@ComradeAesthetic
@ComradeAesthetic 4 жыл бұрын
He right, I explained it in my comment feel free to check it out.
@cameron5948
@cameron5948 4 жыл бұрын
@@ComradeAesthetic or that Google is always listening if it was an older upload :)
@heshiram1188
@heshiram1188 4 жыл бұрын
Vietnam was called French Indochina before they became independent
@armyman-ig7qs
@armyman-ig7qs 4 жыл бұрын
See French influences is of course smokeless powder
@joet.s.6283
@joet.s.6283 4 жыл бұрын
Me: "oh man, I hope there's firing footage!" *hears the word "decommissioned" Me: well damn
@user-njyzcip
@user-njyzcip 4 жыл бұрын
It's just a PPSh and there's firing footage of that
@McCbobbish
@McCbobbish 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-njyzcip correction: it's a *cool-looking* PPSH-41
@denyspoyner4150
@denyspoyner4150 4 жыл бұрын
Deactivated or decommissioned, either way "destroyed" would be more accurate. : (
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
@@denyspoyner4150 it's not "destroyed". I could get that firing in a morning. Defaced is more like it.
@izzfitri6888
@izzfitri6888 4 жыл бұрын
Eh, just rebuild a new one with exact part.
@olddirtbiker5088
@olddirtbiker5088 4 жыл бұрын
For $200 and the gunsmithing cost of reactivating this could be a good investment if the auction price was not too much.
@knottheory79220
@knottheory79220 4 жыл бұрын
@@ffarmchicken Yeah it's a shame that they mutilated this gun like that, but it's a historical artifact at this point and not so much a practical firearm. Better to preserve what's left of it rather than take a risk like that.
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
With what I see, it only needs the barrel chamber remachined. There is no weld holding the barrel in. Easy job.
@user-njyzcip
@user-njyzcip 4 жыл бұрын
I mean a Dremel is only 100 dollars, you can buy a Mosin and take out its barrel, cut it in half and you have a PPSh barrel :P that's how they were made in WW2 anyway
@MrGreghome
@MrGreghome 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-njyzcip the secret to why every Soviet Gun prior to the AK74 was a 7.62, whether it was a 7.62R,7.62 AK or 7.62 x25mm. They all use the same barrel drill
@MrRoboskippy
@MrRoboskippy 4 жыл бұрын
I'll bet the current owner knows that.
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 4 жыл бұрын
Those welds hurt my eyes.
@Namelesswhirl
@Namelesswhirl 4 жыл бұрын
They hurt every one's eyes.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 4 жыл бұрын
Thoes laws hurt my heart :(
@jamesriggs6210
@jamesriggs6210 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. My interest in this video dropped way off after Ian revealed it was deactivated. I watched till the end though.
@mjriemen
@mjriemen 4 жыл бұрын
james riggs Funny enough me too. Which is silly because all the guns Ian shows may as well be deactivated... I’m never going to own or eve shoot hardly any.
@TyCetto
@TyCetto 4 жыл бұрын
@Geba Who all had zero reason for being there in the first place. So the hurt was OK. :-)
@ComradeAesthetic
@ComradeAesthetic 4 жыл бұрын
The "K" in "K-50M" is an acronym. In Vietnamese, it means "Kiểu" and in English, it means Type. Sorry for bad English hope you guy understand Edit 1: OMG Thank for the like, heart and kind words guy !!!
@TheDeadfast
@TheDeadfast 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation. And don't worry, your English is fine!
@Tankliker
@Tankliker 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDeadfast Yeah, I definitly read comments worse then this XD
@frostyy51
@frostyy51 4 жыл бұрын
Ur English is understandable bruh. Btw Vuetnamese here
@Duc_Anh_809
@Duc_Anh_809 4 жыл бұрын
K = "kiểu"= type
@ComradeAesthetic
@ComradeAesthetic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank for the kind words guy, stay safe and healthy.
@kennethobrien9327
@kennethobrien9327 4 жыл бұрын
Only seen one of these. It had been de-activated by several 5.56 hits to receiver Aug. 1969. Never forget how handy it looked.
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
Dayton Airforce Museum has one on display. Everyone's looking at the airplanes, and I'm edging around a glass display case trying to get the best picture of an SMG, lol
@MrJeepmarine
@MrJeepmarine 4 жыл бұрын
Best aircraft museum in my opinion!
@snbrinewehr3203
@snbrinewehr3203 4 жыл бұрын
Scout, report in
@nescumzwei
@nescumzwei 4 жыл бұрын
YAAAA!!!
@Sds0071
@Sds0071 4 жыл бұрын
Anti-Ass defenses are active
@Jono153
@Jono153 4 жыл бұрын
WE HAVE A LOST ECOOOOOO
@EZEQUIELMACHIWl
@EZEQUIELMACHIWl 3 жыл бұрын
Take cover
@lethanhlam3434
@lethanhlam3434 4 жыл бұрын
During 1960, the North Vietnamese Army decided that they must design a new weapons to provide for a guerrillas soldier in the south, this weapons must be have a strong firepower and simple to be fit for guerrilla tactics. This mission was assigned to Z1 factory. They used the stock and a rear sight of a MAT-49 SMG to replace the original stock and rear sight of an original PPSh-41, remove the barrel casing and used the 35 round- box megazine, so that how the K-50M SMG was create
@frisk3320
@frisk3320 4 жыл бұрын
chào ae
@nemergix1707
@nemergix1707 4 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you know that ?
@lethanhlam3434
@lethanhlam3434 4 жыл бұрын
@@frisk3320 Chào đồng chí
@lethanhlam3434
@lethanhlam3434 4 жыл бұрын
@@nemergix1707 Because I know everything about NVA and Vietcong weapons in the Vietnam war, not just AK-47 or SKS
@dandhan87
@dandhan87 4 жыл бұрын
@@lethanhlam3434I have a question that do the Vietnam factories produce M16 and M14 rifles
@jdstark24
@jdstark24 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Aim-Down-Sight views you include in your videos. It's always been my favorite part. Thank you for putting in that little extra time and effort. You're the man Ian!
@bageled_meme2690
@bageled_meme2690 4 жыл бұрын
Ppsh41 and Mp40 ended up in Vietnam and a gunsmith was like, “Này đây là những khẩu súng tuyệt vời. Hãy để tôi băm chúng và đặt chúng lại với nhau!” And then he was like, “Này, tôi có thể tận dụng thiết kế này! Họ có thể sẽ tuyên bố tôi đã đóng góp cho sự nghiệp của mọi người nhưng bất cứ điều gì!”
@wisniewski5171
@wisniewski5171 4 жыл бұрын
> Băm chúng > Nhưng bất cứ điều gì You used google translate right?
@syahran1518
@syahran1518 4 жыл бұрын
sorry i don't speak trees
@maxmuller8633
@maxmuller8633 4 жыл бұрын
@@wisniewski5171 Not really, old Vietnamese use them alot. Especially in the North
@nguyen-vuluu3150
@nguyen-vuluu3150 3 жыл бұрын
@@wisniewski5171 i speak trees and i can say both of yall are speaking nonsensical bullcrap
@valstutz2628
@valstutz2628 4 жыл бұрын
A rather iconic North Vietnamese weapon, glad to see Ian finally got his hands on one!
@ineedlean
@ineedlean 4 жыл бұрын
Sad to see such an amazing piece of history deactivated but I imagine $200 was still no small amount in 1960s-1970s
@classifiedad1
@classifiedad1 4 жыл бұрын
Killian never mind the 60’s-70’s, imagine $200 in 1934. That’s the price of a car. Or a Thompson.
@Stovokor41
@Stovokor41 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. Excellent video and a very welcome break up to my day during these near-lockdown days in Australia.
@pekarr1
@pekarr1 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you made a video about this gun, thank you
@SayNoToDemocide1
@SayNoToDemocide1 4 жыл бұрын
5:00 I think that's a good design coincidence, considering how the average Vietnamese person is shorter than the average Frenchman, especially back then with (North) Vietnam being a new, poor country with poor nutrition (my own mother is from Vietnam, and she would've starved to death even in the 80's and very early 90's when she was a college student if it wasn't for her supportive friends. That's to give you an idea how poor Vietnam was). My own grandfather was a Major in the South Vietnamese Army as a paperwork officer (with all due respect to him) and was imprisoned for 10 years after South Vietnam fell for working for the South Vietnamese government. And I'm surprised how this video was out for only a few hours and how there are so many Vietnamese people in the comments section.
@tophatvn8278
@tophatvn8278 4 жыл бұрын
SayNoTo Democide well we’re developed now, ~10% left is still suffering from starvation only
@stormystudios9804
@stormystudios9804 4 жыл бұрын
I think no one is starving today, it is more like they are struggling to pay for food, which is cheap because Vietnam is a food exporter. People might be poor but they ain't starving.
@nicolemartelli9033
@nicolemartelli9033 4 жыл бұрын
@@tophatvn8278 The 10% number is poverty, not starvation
@filthymolotovite
@filthymolotovite 4 жыл бұрын
D G hey, that ain’t nice!
@kitsme9605
@kitsme9605 3 жыл бұрын
You know, Vietnam is a pretty small country so when some foreign KZbinrs mentioned about Vietnam, they are really proud of their country
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 4 жыл бұрын
great info
@n.a.4292
@n.a.4292 4 жыл бұрын
What a treat! I read about it in a magazine, always wanted to see one.
@ducomaritiem7160
@ducomaritiem7160 4 жыл бұрын
That's a very nice vest you're wearing Ian. Comfy + classy.
@forrestlindsey3947
@forrestlindsey3947 2 жыл бұрын
I can assure you that the K50 fired very fast - it felt like 1,000 RPM - and it would eject the empties straight forward. We discovered this when we fired ours into the sand and saw an extra row of holes about 4 inches above the bullet impacts. We captured ours when its former owner tried to fire it at us but the round in the chamber failed to go off. I still have that round with its dented primer. Unfortunate for him, but great for us.
@Tanuki0110
@Tanuki0110 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian for covering this unicorn. Some interesting information I found from Vietnamese materials on the K-50M: it was created in an attempt to build "ghost guns" not directly traceable back to North Vietnam. These guns were hence mostly made in the early 60s (~10,000 of them, made by the Z1 arms factory). After the US got directly involved in combat, there's no reason to hide anymore, and North Vietnam sent Soviet/Chinese weapons down south in large number.
@sixtenahlman3375
@sixtenahlman3375 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god almighty have i been waiting for this! Very little actual info on it on the Internet, so very welcome video
@simonfejta3434
@simonfejta3434 4 жыл бұрын
K 51m is what would begun if ppsh 41 and mat 49 were cousins in Alabama.
@jayfelsberg1931
@jayfelsberg1931 4 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this gun in Small Arms of the World, and wondering how the NVA got something like this to work.
@thatmissile7864
@thatmissile7864 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, knew you'd eventually get around to this.
@anikazkhrv
@anikazkhrv 2 ай бұрын
So to make things clear because I had a chance to use a K-50M: 1. The base of the gun is inconsistent. Some of them is the real papasha after WWII and most are from the Chinese clone. You held a Chinese-baseyd. There are small modifications just to make the mag holder works as the original papasha. because the original Type-50 can use its drum magazines only, while the papasha can use both. 2. Its fire rate is only 700rpm with soft rubber buffer, you can use the PPSh buffer to restore the badass 1250rpm fire rate, but it will make the gun overheat quickly. That means fire rate will depends on the recoil buffer materials. I used to add some plastics to increase the fire rate to 900rpm and this is suitable for me, but for the NVA and VC at that time, 700rpm is the best for them because of more open fields and they have to sync with the AK training too (AK, not AK-47) 3. This thing, alongside with PPSh-41 and Type-50, can be modernized to use in law enforcements if they adjust the case ejecting position, but they just stopped the improvising project when they got AKMS aids from Soviet Union. most of all modern SMGs can't be compared with the value of the papasha bought to you: big mag, reliable, accurate, adjustable fire rate, and insane firepower just behind the P90 and MP7.
@bethelscrubs2549
@bethelscrubs2549 4 жыл бұрын
I finally got my book, and it looks amazing. I can't think of a better way to spend my quarantine.
@SnapJ
@SnapJ 4 жыл бұрын
Weird Comment, but i want that sweater. It looks cool.
@onzuoantteri4507
@onzuoantteri4507 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree. Here ya go: www.outdoorknitwear.com/cardigans-shawl-collar/72-byreman-chunky-knit-shawl-collar-sweater-with-harris-tweed-patches.html#/size-xs/colour-charcoal
@JudoStev
@JudoStev 4 жыл бұрын
@@onzuoantteri4507 I had to go searching the comments for this too. That sweater looks so comfortable. Thanks!
@TheRivieraKid
@TheRivieraKid 4 жыл бұрын
This is the first time i ever got a Forgotten Weapons notification, even though ive the bell icon active.
@bjorntrollgesicht1144
@bjorntrollgesicht1144 4 жыл бұрын
I can see that the fire control group is original, so is the barrel shroud, etc. They have essentially removed the wooden buttstock and replaced it with bent steel sheet welded directly to the remaining parts and slapped what appears to be a surplus MAT 49 stock. Simple, efficient. glorious.
@couriersix2445
@couriersix2445 4 жыл бұрын
I remember learning of this from Mercenaries: Playground Of Destruction back when I was a preteen
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime 4 жыл бұрын
That would be the similar looking Chinese type 85. What a game.
@UgandanAirForce
@UgandanAirForce 4 жыл бұрын
i played that game, i think it was mostly NK officers and some of the Russian mafia guys would carry it in the game
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 4 жыл бұрын
@@UgandanAirForce Had the highest rate of fire too...
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime 4 жыл бұрын
I can throw my shoe at em' if you want to?
@thomasschreiber9559
@thomasschreiber9559 8 ай бұрын
On the modern firearms website the k50 submachine gun has a rate of fire of 700 rpm which is considerably slower than the original pps 41
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Sir
@F1ghteR41
@F1ghteR41 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually a very sound design in terms of training your troops - it has an AK front sight, a PM Mle 49-esque rear sight and stock, overall it's lighter and has some ergonomic qualities to it.
@dmitrykarkov4747
@dmitrykarkov4747 4 жыл бұрын
Very sleek and cool looking
@gijake1989
@gijake1989 4 жыл бұрын
I saw one of those at the 1st cavalry division museum at Fort Hood, TX.
@-TheRealPatriot-
@-TheRealPatriot- 4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids Ian!
@andreinarangel6227
@andreinarangel6227 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you review a capture MAT49 that North Vietnam rechambered for Tokarev round.
@ZekeAxel
@ZekeAxel 4 жыл бұрын
Ian saying Pa-Pa-Sha is a joy to hear.
@AlASokolov
@AlASokolov 4 жыл бұрын
This is a much more correct way of pronouncing the name of this weapon. Ian finally heard complaints from his viewers about the mispronunciation of the names of weapon designers and the incorrect spelling of abbreviations.
@honkhonkler7732
@honkhonkler7732 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlASokolov Being 'murican, I used to call it a pee-pee-shush as a kid lol
@t.hieuv.8062
@t.hieuv.8062 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao just wait until Ian sees a Vietnamese-made M1 Bazooka.
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 4 жыл бұрын
I know Ian's got a huge backlog of footage available to release for as long as the pandemic lasts... ...but it's more fun to think that he's sheltering in place at Rock Island and they're just letting him keep the collection tidy and make videos.
@adamkrueger4463
@adamkrueger4463 4 жыл бұрын
@Forgotten Weapons I really like your sweater. Well done. Great video as always.
@AJ.Roberts
@AJ.Roberts 4 жыл бұрын
I’m new to your channel, love your content and I’m now addicted 👍
@420JimmyX
@420JimmyX 4 жыл бұрын
oh boy this takes me back 10 years to Battlefield Vietnam and the Arsenal Mod
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you , Ian
@d.b.1176
@d.b.1176 3 жыл бұрын
Cool looking gun
@Koshiku
@Koshiku 4 жыл бұрын
Ian, thanks for mastering the pronounciation of PPSh, now it's right between it's original name and it's army nickname Papasha (Daddy). It's really nice to hear this from you, in place of a faceless abbreviation (especially since last two English letters stand for one Russian letter).
@darthlegoman2608
@darthlegoman2608 3 жыл бұрын
PPSH: receiver AKM: grip Grease Gun: stock Looks like fancy Khyber pass stuff.
@gumbysworld3472
@gumbysworld3472 4 жыл бұрын
Got to shoot one of these, pretty cool gun!
@nartho6588
@nartho6588 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the good old morning gun video. Nothing can compare to firearms and breakfast
@VolantFool
@VolantFool 4 жыл бұрын
Dead Frontier players will always remember this gun
@pemjoe
@pemjoe 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope you pick this one up Ian. The whole time I was watching this I was thinking "wow what a cool gun I love stuff like this" I want to see it at the range.
@russcole5685
@russcole5685 4 жыл бұрын
I looked very light to me bet I kicks like a mule at 7.62 I'd also like to see an operating one on the range to satisfy my curiosity
@blob22201
@blob22201 4 жыл бұрын
It's deactivated so sadly it'll probably never go on a range again
@WingMaster562
@WingMaster562 4 жыл бұрын
Something about crudely made/modified guns that make them look cool in my eyes.
@DaveTex2375
@DaveTex2375 4 жыл бұрын
It's a tough Mad Max/Post Apocalyptic look.
@funwithflags7506
@funwithflags7506 4 жыл бұрын
if you ever get the chance can you do another video on home produced firearms i really enjoyed the one on the avenger smg
@azypk
@azypk 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to know more about this machine gun. Not that much informations are avalable on the internet
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool to finally see this gun live. Next on the wish list would be 7.62 Tokarev conversion of Mat-49. If they were a real thing that is?
@thangnguyenvan7863
@thangnguyenvan7863 4 жыл бұрын
as a Vietnamese, I say it real
@aidanfarnan4683
@aidanfarnan4683 4 жыл бұрын
Last time i was this early, there was still a South Vietnam.
@WanganTune3DXPluDeaf
@WanganTune3DXPluDeaf 4 жыл бұрын
I am still south vietnam :D
@huuduyvu9714
@huuduyvu9714 4 жыл бұрын
@@WanganTune3DXPluDeaf South Vietnam is not a country, but a region. There were 2 regimes at once in the South, one is American-puppet "Republic of Vietnam" and the other is "Provisional Revolutionary Government of Republic of South Vietnam". West-East Germany or North-South Korea don't have that situation at all.
@oggyoliver3651
@oggyoliver3651 4 жыл бұрын
@@huuduyvu9714 one is Chinese communist puppet aka north Vietnam lol
@t-34onsnow47
@t-34onsnow47 4 жыл бұрын
@@oggyoliver3651 the other has been a dead puppet state of the US for 45 years.
@t-34onsnow47
@t-34onsnow47 4 жыл бұрын
@@oggyoliver3651 and the enemies of NATO can even help the one of them (the NATO's member) better than the NATO themselves. I bet this is not the first time the almighty bald eagle abandon his allies, right?
@christopherlambert7814
@christopherlambert7814 3 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest sub guns ever
@blastershogun
@blastershogun 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching John Wayne’s “Green Beret” and Sgt Muldoon saying, “ChiCom K-50” It appears to be a PPSh :-O Sauce : kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5OapZVraZ2Bnc0
@capcamouflagepatterni6162
@capcamouflagepatterni6162 4 жыл бұрын
K-50 is the Vietnamese name for the PPSh and Chinese Type 50 clone of the PPSh. The "K" at the beginning is Vietnamese for "Kieu" meaning model or type. It is no different then calling a gun a M-44 or T-53. The K-50M is the modified version of the K-50
@Feiora
@Feiora 4 жыл бұрын
That was the name I knew these as for a long time and when I saw the image in the vid section I was like WOO! Finally gonna learn about this gun! :D (Ironically the ChiCom bit was what instantly came to mind too! XD )
@sheriff0017
@sheriff0017 4 жыл бұрын
The best Vietnam War documentary.
@hunter35474
@hunter35474 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that they filmed The Green Berets at Fort Benning, I wonder if that display board of "captured weaponry" (as Sgt. Muldoon describes it) was provided by the Army. Maybe they used it for enemy weapons familiarization training or something.
@josefsalon4449
@josefsalon4449 4 жыл бұрын
Thanx!!!
@eggcillfoley5130
@eggcillfoley5130 4 жыл бұрын
just found out about it when playing rising storm 2 yesterday
@MrGreghome
@MrGreghome 4 жыл бұрын
Scout report in
@GweAnakJakarta
@GweAnakJakarta 4 жыл бұрын
"We have lost FOX-TROH"
@atomicenergycommission9820
@atomicenergycommission9820 3 жыл бұрын
One of my fav guns in RS 2
@yourenotperfect.9493
@yourenotperfect.9493 2 жыл бұрын
These old, crudely modified guns are way more interesting to me than the fucking samey polymer ARs with fuckin laser sights and scopes and shit
@stefanristic8180
@stefanristic8180 4 жыл бұрын
Scarce Vietnamese submachine gun. Isn't this a sweet treat. Thanks Ian!
@DramaLlama1337
@DramaLlama1337 4 жыл бұрын
An interesting person, papa shaw must've been to be mentioned this many times by Ian
@kingwiththeax6880
@kingwiththeax6880 4 жыл бұрын
Osama The Llama, maybe John Brownings father-in-law?
@RocketboyX
@RocketboyX 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he is related to Papa John?
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 4 жыл бұрын
Papa Shpagin
@trey85031
@trey85031 4 жыл бұрын
that thing is bad ass and shoots a great round
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime 4 жыл бұрын
I've never clocked that those are AK grips.
@vicmars6655
@vicmars6655 4 жыл бұрын
Been hoping for to this smg for a while. 😀
@Vojawashere
@Vojawashere 4 жыл бұрын
i am lorax,i speak for the trees *the trees are speaking vietnamese*
@billping6712
@billping6712 4 жыл бұрын
player 5.56 best comment I have seen all week...
@Vojawashere
@Vojawashere 4 жыл бұрын
@@billping6712 thank you
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime 4 жыл бұрын
That is a gorgeous jumper Ian, where can I get one?
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 4 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty decent and comfy to use
@michailpanchev9952
@michailpanchev9952 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, the PPsH41 they have here - at the local firing range, works perfectly with the drum mag, and frequently malfunctions with the stick magazine.
@madmit2007
@madmit2007 4 жыл бұрын
Just try to use a few another drum mags from the different pieces. You'd be surpised.
@lanedexter6303
@lanedexter6303 4 жыл бұрын
“Deactivated war trophy.” Ian, that was painful to see.
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
6:17 - not sure how those welds are holding the barrel in. It should be the larger reciever pivot pin that retains the barrel which looks untouched by weld.
@RichieRichOverdrive
@RichieRichOverdrive 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless, a little bit of grinding would take those right off....
@ryanking5262
@ryanking5262 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichieRichOverdrive The real question is could one possibly salvage the barrel and reactivate this little bad girl?
@webtoedman
@webtoedman 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanking5262 Nothing is impossible. Finding the correct barrel would be very,very difficult, but a good machinist could probably chamber and profile a blank to suit. Not that I'm suggesting that.
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichieRichOverdrive ya, it could be nearly fully restored with a dremel. I think one of two things are at play here. 1. A rube deactivated this and thought the whole trunnion needed removed to remove the barrel 2. Fake barrel retention welds to be purposefully deceitful for an easy reactivation.
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
@@webtoedman it's the same barrel as a common ppsh, but with a front sight post pressed and pinned. If the weld is only in the chamber, it would be an easy drill and rechamber job.
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 4 жыл бұрын
I was drooling until Ian showed the plugged barrel:(-John in Texas
@Codename5A3
@Codename5A3 4 жыл бұрын
I saw one of these at the October 2019 Knob Creek shoot/show, it was a transferable machine gun and had already sold for $25,000!
@ronmiller1578
@ronmiller1578 3 жыл бұрын
Are you looking for one?
@Codename5A3
@Codename5A3 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronmiller1578 I would love to have one, I could never afford it unless the MG market collapsed though
@BeingFireRetardant
@BeingFireRetardant 4 жыл бұрын
Favorite gun in Mercenaries 1 and 2. Looks fairly crude, but highly effective...
@user-hk1cv7vp3z
@user-hk1cv7vp3z 4 жыл бұрын
Like 3 days ago, i thought to myself that Ian hasn´t made a video about the K-50M smg yet. And now it came out. Ian, are reading my mind?
@madcowrebel4216
@madcowrebel4216 4 жыл бұрын
An Ak, grease gun, mp40 and ppsh 41 had a baby.
@charlesjhemphilliii4792
@charlesjhemphilliii4792 4 жыл бұрын
When I lived in Thailand they were thicker than fleas on a cat. I would use a fine rasp so drums would fit.
@TurtleStranger
@TurtleStranger 4 жыл бұрын
Ive always wanted a k50m
@ianthomas7139
@ianthomas7139 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like the SMG Tintin uses in Flight 714. I’ve always wondered what Herge used as a template.
@bensigl3766
@bensigl3766 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to one day see a Vietnamese MAT-49M. Those were converted to .30 Tokarev and had other physical changes plus a higher rate of fire.
@larrythorn4715
@larrythorn4715 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like I saw this episode before, and same with the USMC M45 one...but it says they're new uploads?
@madhukarmukane2090
@madhukarmukane2090 4 жыл бұрын
I like your sweater Ian, and may be after 50 it will sold in Rock Island Auction company as gun jeesus jacket 😁😁
@WarDogMadness
@WarDogMadness 4 жыл бұрын
that's some nice herringbone weave on your shoulder patches is it cold where you are ian. more interesting soviet stuff .
@CeltKnight
@CeltKnight 4 жыл бұрын
Learn something new every day. I did not know a deactivated war trophy could be legally reactivated (with the proper form and tax). Interesting and good to know. I presume it would have to have been registered as a war trophy and deactivated prior to 1986 in order to qualify for legal reactivation?
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Had to have been previously registered.
@richard1165
@richard1165 4 жыл бұрын
Those welds are stupidly easy to take off, even with just a dremel tool. If the original trunnion can be saved assuming the destroyed barrel isn't welded to the trunnion, all it needs is a new barrel. Very easy reactivation.
@ThatGuy-te9wh
@ThatGuy-te9wh 4 жыл бұрын
it looks like the child of the PPSh-41 and the AK.
@HECKproductions
@HECKproductions 4 жыл бұрын
looks like an mp38 and a stgw44 had a baby
@jellybr3ak
@jellybr3ak 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! This is the first time I see this outside of a museum.
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